QB Drew Stanton on IR (1 Viewer)

[SofaKings]

Stanton

Nicholas J. Cotsonika's blog

Lions QB Stanton placed on IR, done for season

August 3, 2007

The Lions have placed Drew Stanton on injured reserve, ending the former Michigan State quarterback’s season before it began.

The move cleared a roster spot for wide receiver Calvin Johnson, who signed a six-year contract this morning and took the field at training camp for the first time. So the Lions’ second draft pick this year made way for their first pick.

Stanton felt something in his right knee while dropping back Saturday, during the Lions’ third day of practices. The knee swelled up that night, and he had an MRI on Sunday. He had surgery to clean up some cartilage Tuesday morning.

The injury wasn’t serious, but the timing was terrible. It meant Stanton would miss training camp, a critical time in his development. Stanton might be ready physically for the regular season, but he won’t have had the practice he would need to be ready to play.

This means the Lions have decided journeyman J.T. O’Sullivan is probably good enough to make the roster. The Lions haven’t even seen O’Sullivan in an exhibition yet, but he has been impressive in camp. O’Sullivan will battle Dan Orlovsky for the backup job.

Stanton can’t practice with the team while on injured reserve, but he probably wasn’t going to get many reps anyway during the season. He can still sit in on meetings to learn the offense and work out at team headquarters.

 

[DanFouts]

Stanton

Nicholas J. Cotsonika's blog

Lions QB Stanton placed on IR, done for season

August 3, 2007

The Lions have placed Drew Stanton on injured reserve, ending the former Michigan State quarterback’s season before it began.

The move cleared a roster spot for wide receiver Calvin Johnson, who signed a six-year contract this morning and took the field at training camp for the first time. So the Lions’ second draft pick this year made way for their first pick.

Stanton felt something in his right knee while dropping back Saturday, during the Lions’ third day of practices. The knee swelled up that night, and he had an MRI on Sunday. He had surgery to clean up some cartilage Tuesday morning.

The injury wasn’t serious, but the timing was terrible. It meant Stanton would miss training camp, a critical time in his development. Stanton might be ready physically for the regular season, but he won’t have had the practice he would need to be ready to play.

This means the Lions have decided journeyman J.T. O’Sullivan is probably good enough to make the roster. The Lions haven’t even seen O’Sullivan in an exhibition yet, but he has been impressive in camp. O’Sullivan will battle Dan Orlovsky for the backup job.

Stanton can’t practice with the team while on injured reserve, but he probably wasn’t going to get many reps anyway during the season. He can still sit in on meetings to learn the offense and work out at team headquarters.

 

[shadyridr]

Makes no sense.

 

[Bob Henry]

Last year it was Brian Calhoun, a 3rd round pick. This year it is Stanton. Now, I'm a fan of both players, and you can't predict injuries, but this is awfully frustrating for a team that needs to move forward and develop their young talent. As fantasy owners, it is like being in a dynasty league and burning your 2nd/3rd round choices year after year..

My main gripe with this, if it's not a "serious" injury, is that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. "Stanton can’t practice with the team while on injured reserve" - so, effectively, Millen and Co. decided it's more important to have O'Sullivan on the roster then to take the short-term hit of Stanton rehabbing and allow him to practice and develop during the season so that the team is better in the long-term. That's the part I don't quite get.. Give me the long-term benefit of developing Stanton, your 2nd round pick, over keeping O'Sullivan, a free agent who bounced around every other team in the NFC Central before landing here circa NFL Europa..

Am I alone in my thoughts? Maybe someone else can help me with my perspective here..

 

[OCC]

Stanton must be much farther away from being a starter then most expected.

It's basically "even if you were healthy you weren't going to play or eve be a backup, so we'll save a roster spot".

In the long term it might work out better, but this isn't exactly good news.

 

[DanFouts]

Last year it was Brian Calhoun, a 3rd round pick. This year it is Stanton. Now, I'm a fan of both players, and you can't predict injuries, but this is awfully frustrating for a team that needs to move forward and develop their young talent. As fantasy owners, it is like being in a dynasty league and burning your 2nd/3rd round choices year after year..My main gripe with this, if it's not a "serious" injury, is that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. "Stanton can’t practice with the team while on injured reserve" - so, effectively, Millen and Co. decided it's more important to have O'Sullivan on the roster then to take the short-term hit of Stanton rehabbing and allow him to practice and develop during the season so that the team is better in the long-term. That's the part I don't quite get.. Give me the long-term benefit of developing Stanton, your 2nd round pick, over keeping O'Sullivan, a free agent who bounced around every other team in the NFC Central before landing here circa NFL Europa.. Am I alone in my thoughts? Maybe someone else can help me with my perspective here..

Agree completely. If you drafted Stanton to be your QB future, then you put the effort in to develop him. I imagined the Lions going 6-10, starting Stanon in last 2 games to get him some reps, practice etc. Then coming in next year's camp as the starter. 1-2 year development now shifts to 2-3 years.....

 

[Bob Henry]

Stanton must be much farther away from being a starter then most expected. It's basically "even if you were healthy you weren't going to play or eve be a backup, so we'll save a roster spot". In the long term it might work out better, but this isn't exactly good news.

Understand your point and I think we're on the same page. If this is the case though, then don't spend your 2nd round pick (top of the 2nd round no less) on Stanton and use that pick to upgrade other key positions like defensive line, linebacker, corner, tight end, etc.If this is a 4th round pick, who may have an upside as a potential starter down the road, then no worries, but a 2nd round pick is something you can't just throw the towel on and idle for a year just to keep a journey man QB who looks good after a week of practice.

 

[CalBear]

Understand your point and I think we're on the same page. If this is the case though, then don't spend your 2nd round pick (top of the 2nd round no less) on Stanton and use that pick to upgrade other key positions like defensive line, linebacker, corner, tight end, etc.If this is a 4th round pick, who may have an upside as a potential starter down the road, then no worries, but a 2nd round pick is something you can't just throw the towel on and idle for a year just to keep a journey man QB who looks good after a week of practice.

You realize you're talking about the Lions here, right?

 

[dgreen]

I can't imagine they don't have some scrub they could drop to open a roster spot, allowing Stanton to participate in practices once he's ready.

 

[Bob Henry]

Understand your point and I think we're on the same page. If this is the case though, then don't spend your 2nd round pick (top of the 2nd round no less) on Stanton and use that pick to upgrade other key positions like defensive line, linebacker, corner, tight end, etc.If this is a 4th round pick, who may have an upside as a potential starter down the road, then no worries, but a 2nd round pick is something you can't just throw the towel on and idle for a year just to keep a journey man QB who looks good after a week of practice.

You realize you're talking about the Lions here, right?

Does that make it ok? I know your being cynical, but the point remains the same regardless of what team we're talking about.

 

[DenverBroncos]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

 

[Bob Henry]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

 

[KellysHeroes]

I thought I had something good at 2.11 in my rookie draft.... He won't be ready until yr 3.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

Yet another questionable decision from a franchise that has made many of them. Telling your QB of the future he can't practice this season is plain stupid - I see no logic in it, considering the high pick spent on Stanton. Well, it wouldn't be the Lions if they didn't make a move or two that made you go I feel your pain Lions fans, the Bears did that for the entire decade of the 90's.

 

[One]

This means the Lions have decided journeyman J.T. O’Sullivan is probably good enough to make the roster. The Lions haven’t even seen O’Sullivan in an exhibition yet, but he has been impressive in camp. O’Sullivan will battle Dan Orlovsky for the backup job.

My HS QB. (I know.. his NFL track record is awful.)

 

[CalBear]

Understand your point and I think we're on the same page. If this is the case though, then don't spend your 2nd round pick (top of the 2nd round no less) on Stanton and use that pick to upgrade other key positions like defensive line, linebacker, corner, tight end, etc.If this is a 4th round pick, who may have an upside as a potential starter down the road, then no worries, but a 2nd round pick is something you can't just throw the towel on and idle for a year just to keep a journey man QB who looks good after a week of practice.

You realize you're talking about the Lions here, right?

Does that make it ok? I know your being cynical, but the point remains the same regardless of what team we're talking about.

The fact that it's the Lions means that bonehead behavior is the expected result.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I thought I had something good at 2.11 in my rookie draft.... He won't be ready until yr 3.

I've got to wonder if carrying him on a short dynasty roster is worth it for a 3-4 year payoff.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Wow...this solidifies Kitna's fantasy value in redrafts as he won't be losing his job at the end of the season.

 

[sholditch]

I thought I had something good at 2.11 in my rookie draft.... He won't be ready until yr 3.

I've got to wonder if carrying him on a short dynasty roster is worth it for a 3-4 year payoff.

probably not. I burned a 2.1 on him in a 2-QB dynasty. Jeezuz.

 

[joffer]

Last year it was Brian Calhoun, a 3rd round pick. This year it is Stanton. Now, I'm a fan of both players, and you can't predict injuries, but this is awfully frustrating for a team that needs to move forward and develop their young talent. As fantasy owners, it is like being in a dynasty league and burning your 2nd/3rd round choices year after year..My main gripe with this, if it's not a "serious" injury, is that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. "Stanton can’t practice with the team while on injured reserve" - so, effectively, Millen and Co. decided it's more important to have O'Sullivan on the roster then to take the short-term hit of Stanton rehabbing and allow him to practice and develop during the season so that the team is better in the long-term. That's the part I don't quite get.. Give me the long-term benefit of developing Stanton, your 2nd round pick, over keeping O'Sullivan, a free agent who bounced around every other team in the NFC Central before landing here circa NFL Europa.. Am I alone in my thoughts? Maybe someone else can help me with my perspective here..

Agree. I don't get this either. Unless he totally crapped the bed during mini-camp and they think that without pre-season work, he's too far away.I don't know enough about what goes on at mid-week practices during the season to know if the opportunity is there for him to develop or not.

 

[gorf]

Wow...this solidifies Kitna's fantasy value in redrafts as he won't be losing his job at the end of the season.

it bumps his value in dynasty leagues, too, as it probably also means he starts in at least 2008, and possibly beyond.

 

[kneeshooter]

ORLOVSKY!!!!

 

[Captain Blowhard]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year.

WHAAAATTTTT?????!!!!I'm locked into all the Detroit media outlets on a daily basis. This is the biggest load of CRAP I've seen at this board this year. Completely false and from the nether regions of outer space. I'll await your concrete LINKS with quotes from credible sources.In the interim, I'll make the popcorn.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year.

WHAAAATTTTT?????!!!!I'm locked into all the Detroit media outlets on a daily basis. This is the biggest load of CRAP I've seen at this board this year. Completely false and from the nether regions of outer space. I'll await your concrete LINKS with quotes from credible sources.In the interim, I'll make the popcorn.

Ignore the post saying they might cut Stanton, it's nothing but BS.

 

[John Mamula]

Maybe it is because Stanton sucks, the Lions realise this, and have cut bait.

I am perplexed at everyone being perplexed in here.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

 

[John Mamula]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

 

[DenverBroncos]

For real buddy. Ever heard of 1st Amendment??? Don't be a DB Anthony!

 

[John Mamula]

i have a feeling a couple of these staff members are from the midwest and have a bit of big 10 bias with stanton.

 

[IM666]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I once heard a rumor Brett Favre was going to quit if Culpepper signed with Green Bay. It was from someone that had a few to many shots of Jack. Did I need to pollute the SP with it? No. No pissing in the Shark Pool. TIA

 

[John Mamula]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I once heard a rumor Brett Favre was going to quit if Culpepper signed with Green Bay. It was from someone that had a few to many shots of Jack. Did I need to pollute the SP with it? No. No pissing in the Shark Pool. TIA

easy there 5 digiter.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I once heard a rumor Brett Favre was going to quit if Culpepper signed with Green Bay. It was from someone that had a few to many shots of Jack. Did I need to pollute the SP with it? No. No pissing in the Shark Pool. TIA

easy there 5 digiter.

I've always wondered what relevance a persons member number has to anything.

 

[redman]

It's basically "even if you were healthy you weren't going to play or eve be a backup, so we'll save a roster spot".

That's my interpretation too.

 

[*****]

It stinks that Stanton won't get to practice during the season but Martz's offense is complex and his injury is setting him back. It may be a good thing if Stanton spends his time learning the playbook for te next 6 months and watching Kitna practice closely...especially if Martz ends up the next Lions head coach.

Palmer sat behind Kitna and did not take any game snaps during his rookie year. Detroit may have a similar plan for Stanton (but sadly the next year won't include practice snaps).

 

[sholditch]

so he can't even practice?? My GOD this was a stupid move. I mean, I know the Lions always make boneheaded moves but basically taking your second-round pick and QB of the future out of action for six months to save a freaking roster spot? Are you serious?

 

[SofaKings]

Clears the way for Cullen Finnerty.

 

[Aaronstory]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I once heard a rumor Brett Favre was going to quit if Culpepper signed with Green Bay. It was from someone that had a few to many shots of Jack. Did I need to pollute the SP with it? No. No pissing in the Shark Pool. TIA

easy there 5 digiter.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I'm not really sure what everyone has their panties in a twist about.

The surgery will basically take him out of training camp. No training camp essentially means no chance at a backup gig for a rookie, particularly for this offense. No backup gig means no need for him to be on the regular roster.

He can work out, and be around and still learn the playbook etc. in the regular season - he's not suspended, and he's on the payroll. And even if he COULD "practice" with the team, he wouldn't get any reps because the team is no longer going to be practicing the offense in general, they are going to be preparing for the next week's game. That means there is really not a whole lot for Stanton to do in regular season practices anyway.

This is actually a smart move IMO.

 

[-OZ-]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.

The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I missed where he CENSORED anyone. He said we should ignore the Broncos fan spreading rumors about the Lions. Sounds like a good idea to me.He suggested we don't make those posts, not that we delete them.

 

[twitch]

its as if every single year the Lions team is on the friggin' Madden cover.......what is it with these guys??? its gotta be absolute, pain-staking torture to be a fan of this team....

 

[Koya]

Seems questionable at best. I understand the rationale, but there doesnt seem to be a great deal of logic behind it.

While it might be "burning a roster spot" did the Lions really expect to go to the SB this year and need all that depth? At the expense of EXPOSING their "QB of the future" to all aspects of being an NFL player for a year to help is career progress?

Now, I assume the Lions are thinking this: Stanton won't be able to contribute one bit this year, so lets not waste the spot. We have Kitna for this year AND AT LEAST one more year... so it is not like Stanton needs to get into one or two games late this season to prepare to have a chance to start next year. Instead, Stanton can take next year like his rookie year after learning the playbook and being in on meetings, maybe get a few snaps NEXT year and at earliest compete for a job the year AFTER that.

But imo, this is terribly shortsighted (I know, shocker for the lions) because the EXPOSURE to the pace of an NFL practice, standing on the sidelines getting advise, watching with his own eyes, building a relationship with coaches and players ON THE FIELD IN PRACTICE AND ON SIDELINES DURING GAMES - this will all be LOST.

Why didn't they PUP him until the last possible day, then take him off the PUP and at least get this kid some exposure to life in the NFL? Thank GOD I am not a lions fan.

 

[DenverBroncos]

Seems questionable at best. I understand the rationale, but there doesnt seem to be a great deal of logic behind it.

While it might be "burning a roster spot" did the Lions really expect to go to the SB this year and need all that depth? At the expense of EXPOSING their "QB of the future" to all aspects of being an NFL player for a year to help is career progress?

Now, I assume the Lions are thinking this: Stanton won't be able to contribute one bit this year, so lets not waste the spot. We have Kitna for this year AND AT LEAST one more year... so it is not like Stanton needs to get into one or two games late this season to prepare to have a chance to start next year. Instead, Stanton can take next year like his rookie year after learning the playbook and being in on meetings, maybe get a few snaps NEXT year and at earliest compete for a job the year AFTER that.

But imo, this is terribly shortsighted (I know, shocker for the lions) because the EXPOSURE to the pace of an NFL practice, standing on the sidelines getting advise, watching with his own eyes, building a relationship with coaches and players ON THE FIELD IN PRACTICE AND ON SIDELINES DURING GAMES - this will all be LOST.

Why didn't they PUP him until the last possible day, then take him off the PUP and at least get this kid some exposure to life in the NFL? Thank GOD I am not a lions fan.

Yes, they probably did. Every team at the beginning of the year thinks they have a realistic chance of going to the Super Bowl if things go right.

 

[Kleck.]

I thought I had something good at 2.11 in my rookie draft.... He won't be ready until yr 3.

I've got to wonder if carrying him on a short dynasty roster is worth it for a 3-4 year payoff.

I'm pretty certain Stanton will go undrafted, or be a very late pick, in my dyansty draft this weekend. We just don't have the roster size to carry project QBs, and QBs seem to fall quite a bit in our drafts anyway (only 3 taken in the first round the past seven years).

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm not really sure what everyone has their panties in a twist about.The surgery will basically take him out of training camp. No training camp essentially means no chance at a backup gig for a rookie, particularly for this offense. No backup gig means no need for him to be on the regular roster.He can work out, and be around and still learn the playbook etc. in the regular season - he's not suspended, and he's on the payroll. And even if he COULD "practice" with the team, he wouldn't get any reps because the team is no longer going to be practicing the offense in general, they are going to be preparing for the next week's game. That means there is really not a whole lot for Stanton to do in regular season practices anyway.This is actually a smart move IMO.

 

[Koya]

I'm not really sure what everyone has their panties in a twist about.The surgery will basically take him out of training camp. No training camp essentially means no chance at a backup gig for a rookie, particularly for this offense. No backup gig means no need for him to be on the regular roster.He can work out, and be around and still learn the playbook etc. in the regular season - he's not suspended, and he's on the payroll. And even if he COULD "practice" with the team, he wouldn't get any reps because the team is no longer going to be practicing the offense in general, they are going to be preparing for the next week's game. That means there is really not a whole lot for Stanton to do in regular season practices anyway.This is actually a smart move IMO.

Can he stand on the sidelines during practice? If so, then I retract much of my comments. If not, then this is an idiotic move that absolutely has the chance to stunt his professional growth.

 

[hutchins929]

I think that you people are overreacting about this. It's not like the kid cant practice and learn from watching... Which is what he would've been doing this year anyway. The fact that Calvin Johnson has ended his hold out and is now in camp is far bigger news than Stanton going on IR.

 

[UlyssesNorris]

Was his right knee the same one he tore up in the Alamo Bowl a few years ago when that dufus John L. Smith had him covering punts?

 

[Raiders]

Rumor has it that Martz may even cut Stanton all together next year. The Lions brass and staff were utterly dissapointed with him in the OTA's and did not like what they saw. The are realizing that he is not the QB of the future and will be looking to go a different way next year. The reason he was put on IR is because they don't even want to waste a roster spot or let someone practice who may not be with the team next year. HE IS DEFINETLY NOT THE QB OF THE FUTURE!

Everyone needs to ignore this post. This could not be further from the truth. There has never been anything credible to suggest this, and as a matter of fact, Martz is elated with how Stanton progressed in mini-camps. Posts like this should not be made, period, unless you can prove them.

Censoring on a message board is never a good thing, and if there was a requirement to have a link for everything posted there wouldn't be nearly the free flowing exchange of information.The guy said it was a rumor. Not sure what your issue is here.

I once heard a rumor Brett Favre was going to quit if Culpepper signed with Green Bay. It was from someone that had a few to many shots of Jack. Did I need to pollute the SP with it? No. No pissing in the Shark Pool. TIA

easy there 5 digiter.

I've always wondered what relevance a persons member number has to anything.

It only means that the guy from Denver joined this board a week ago, and he is already making wild assumptions. It's not like this guy has several years of credablity.

 

[-OZ-]

its gotta be absolute, pain-staking torture to be a fan of this team....

it is, but when they finally win, it will be so much sweeter.

 

[sholditch]

I'm not really sure what everyone has their panties in a twist about.The surgery will basically take him out of training camp. No training camp essentially means no chance at a backup gig for a rookie, particularly for this offense. No backup gig means no need for him to be on the regular roster.He can work out, and be around and still learn the playbook etc. in the regular season - he's not suspended, and he's on the payroll. And even if he COULD "practice" with the team, he wouldn't get any reps because the team is no longer going to be practicing the offense in general, they are going to be preparing for the next week's game. That means there is really not a whole lot for Stanton to do in regular season practices anyway.This is actually a smart move IMO.

Can he stand on the sidelines during practice? If so, then I retract much of my comments. If not, then this is an idiotic move that absolutely has the chance to stunt his professional growth.

I agree. I assume this also means he can't play in any preseason games. I don't care what kind of sugar-coating you put on this, it sets his development back a year, probably was a huge blow to his confidence considering that everything we've heard about his surgery says it's basically nothing. The ability to play in preseason games was likely gone, but it sounds like he might have been able to take a few snaps in the fourth game, and, hell, this just seems really dumb to save one roster spot. He could have been practicing with the practice squad team at the least and getting a feel for NFL speed. No, no argument can make this a smart move. Incredibly, incredibly stupid.