QB Jameis Winston, NYG (5 Viewers)

[kOOk]

 

[cstu]

First throw of the game is a pick-6. Can't make this stuff up, folks.

 

[lod01]

My Carolina D is teaching this turd a lesson.

 

[Capella]

love how you two weren't anywhere to be found the last two weeks. Choads.

 

[kOOk]

 

[ponchsox]

This guy blows

 

[lod01]

love how you two weren't anywhere to be found the last two weeks. Choads.

Defend you choad's suckage. Don't just call someone a choad.

 

[mr roboto]

He wasn't great the last 2 weeks. He was ok-ish.

 

[Capella]

He wasn't great the last 2 weeks. He was ok-ish.

He was excellent last week. Had two really good scores at PFF but I'll just listen to LOD and cstu.

 

[Quez]

I don't think that crappy TE ran the right route. He looked late out of his cut.

 

[lod01]

at 'excellent'. What a homer. Take off the stinkston goggles.

 

[cstu]

He wasn't great the last 2 weeks. He was ok-ish.

He was excellent last week. Had two really good scores at PFF but I'll just listen to LOD and cstu.

I thought he was good against NO. Last week he was ok, but inaccurate.

 

[Capella]

He wasn't great the last 2 weeks. He was ok-ish.

He was excellent last week. Had two really good scores at PFF but I'll just listen to LOD and cstu.

I thought he was good against NO. Last week he was ok, but inaccurate.

He was better last week than he was in week 2. His receivers were not.

Also, he's been ok after that pick-6 today. 12/20

 

[cstu]

This throw was mind-numbingly stupid - could have easily been another pick 6.

 

[kOOk]

He has faced some tough Ds don't forget.

 

[Henry Ford]

love how you two weren't anywhere to be found the last two weeks. Choads.

They need to keep crab legs on the sideline like Marshawn's skittles

 

[lod01]

3 picks for Stinkston.

 

[kOOk]

 

[GoBirds]

Jamarcus is about as bad as expected huh?

 

[Henry Ford]

This keeps up, Mariotta and Winston may have the same QB rating this week.

 

[lod01]

That's pick #4 on Stinkston.

 

[kOOk]

 

[Bronco Billy]

That's pick #4 on Stinkston.

Too bad you disappear when he has decent games. But that's not in your character, whatever there is of it, is it?

 

[BoulderBob]

Yeah, he's a bum. But most rookie QBs are. Give him two years, but I'm not impressed with him. Think Lovie had blinders on and went with the wrong QB. Franchise killing move, if it plays out how I think it will.

 

[Henry Ford]

That's pick #4 on Stinkston.

Too bad you disappear when he has decent games. But that's not in your character, whatever there is of it, is it?

I was here during the Saints game. It's still pick #4 today. Plus a fumble.

 

[jurb26]

I didn't see the game, but Winston sealed his own terrible fait by testing Norman.

 

[cstu]

"Wake up call for my work ethic"

I think he has the right attitude (taking responsibility) but it's clear he wasn't ready to start week 1. A year on the bench behind Glennon would have helped him greatly.

 

[Faust]

Jameis Winston throws four picks, takes step back for Buccaneers

 

[Bronco Billy]

That's pick #4 on Stinkston.

Too bad you disappear when he has decent games. But that's not in your character, whatever there is of it, is it?

I was here during the Saints game. It's still pick #4 today. Plus a fumble.

I'm here too and yes it is.

 

[mr roboto]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooof.

 

[mr roboto]

"Wake up call for my work ethic"

I think he has the right attitude (taking responsibility) but it's clear he wasn't ready to start week 1. A year on the bench behind Glennon would have helped him greatly.

Winston was pro ready. All the FSU QBs were.

 

[lod01]

I welcome Lod's comments. He does more for Jameis n this board than anything else possible.

How's that working out for you now?

 

[lod01]

That's pick #4 on Stinkston.

Too bad you disappear when he has decent games. But that's not in your character, whatever there is of it, is it?

That's all ya got? There was no reason to be here in that fluke win vs one of the 3 worst teams in the league. The Saints handed the Bucs that game. Your bum just happened to be under center. That's it. It's not like he did anything to win it. He sucked that week just like he has sucked every week. He has done absolutely nothing that screams franchise QB. NOTHING.

'You weren't here when the Bucs won a game'.... Not, 'Look how great Winston looked and you disappear.'

 

[SWC]

i have noticed that one thing jameis is not good at is throwing the football to others players he has a nice arm if the play is one where he is supposed to launch it way out of bounds or throw it at the grass not by anyone tho take that to the bank bromigos

 

[lod01]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

 

[Capella]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

 

[Bronco Billy]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

Don't ever argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

Surprised that a troll of this magnitude is given so much latitude here.

 

[lod01]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

Don't ever argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

Surprised that a troll of this magnitude is given so much latitude here.

He's not arguing with you.

 

[Capella]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

Don't ever argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience. Surprised that a troll of this magnitude is given so much latitude here.

Good point. I'll shut er down.

 

[cstu]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

To give Winston the benefit of the doubt, he is really young and Matt Stafford struggled even more when he was a 21 year old rookie.

Rk 		        Year 	Age 	Draft 	Tm 	Lg 	G 	GS 	Cmp 	Att 	Cmp% 	Yds 	TD 	Int 	Int% 	Rate 	Sk 	Y/A 	Yds 	AY/A 	ANY/A 	Y/G 	W 	L 	T 	Att 	Yds 	Y/A 	TD 	Y/G1 	Roethlisberger 	2004 	22 	1-11 	PIT 	NFL 	14 	13 	196 	295 	66.44 	2621 	17 	11 	3.73 	98.1 	30 	8.88 	213 	8.36 	6.93 	187.2 	13 	0 	0 	56 	144 	2.57 	1 	10.32 	Marcus Mariota 	2015 	22 		TEN 	NFL 	3 	3 	61 	97 	62.89 	833 	8 	2 	2.06 	109.2 	12 	8.59 	84 	9.31 	7.51 	277.7 	1 	2 	0 	5 	25 	5.00 	0 	8.33 	Robert Griffin 	2012 	22 	1-2 	WAS 	NFL 	15 	15 	258 	393 	65.65 	3200 	20 	5 	1.27 	102.4 	30 	8.14 	217 	8.59 	7.47 	213.3 	9 	6 	0 	120 	815 	6.79 	7 	54.34 	Cam Newton 	2011 	22 	1-1 	CAR 	NFL 	16 	16 	310 	517 	59.96 	4051 	21 	17 	3.29 	84.5 	35 	7.84 	260 	7.17 	6.24 	253.2 	6 	10 	0 	126 	706 	5.60 	14 	44.15 	T. Bridgewater 	2014 	22 	1-32 	MIN 	NFL 	13 	12 	259 	402 	64.43 	2919 	14 	12 	2.99 	85.2 	39 	7.26 	249 	6.61 	5.46 	224.5 	6 	6 	0 	47 	209 	4.45 	1 	16.16 	Jameis Winston 	2015 	21 		TAM 	NFL 	4 	4 	73 	133 	54.89 	965 	6 	7 	5.26 	71.2 	9 	7.26 	59 	5.79 	5.01 	241.3 	1 	3 	0 	16 	53 	3.31 	1 	13.37 	Josh Freeman 	2009 	21 	1-17 	TAM 	NFL 	10 	9 	158 	290 	54.48 	1855 	10 	18 	6.21 	59.8 	20 	6.40 	102 	4.29 	3.69 	185.5 	3 	6 	0 	30 	161 	5.37 	0 	16.18 	M. Stafford 	2009 	21 	1-1 	DET 	NFL 	10 	10 	201 	377 	53.32 	2267 	13 	20 	5.31 	61.0 	24 	6.01 	169 	4.32 	3.64 	226.7 	2 	8 	0 	20 	108 	5.40 	2 	10.89 	Kyle Boller 	2003 	22 	1-19 	BAL 	NFL 	11 	9 	116 	224 	51.79 	1260 	7 	9 	4.02 	62.4 	17 	5.63 	92 	4.44 	3.75 	114.5 	5 	4 	0 	30 	62 	2.07 	0 	5.610 	Blaine Gabbert 	2011 	22 	1-10 	JAX 	NFL 	15 	14 	210 	413 	50.85 	2214 	12 	11 	2.66 	65.4 	40 	5.36 	293 	4.74 	3.68 	147.6 	4 	10 	0 	48 	98 	2.04 	0 	6.5

 

[Bri]

Sooo they didn't want Mariota?

He still looks like a talented athlete when he messes up. Still plenty of hope here

 

[kOOk]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

Don't ever argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

Surprised that a troll of this magnitude is given so much latitude here.

Hold on. If the idiot is able to bring you into their arena......then beat you...........what's that say?

 

[Henry Ford]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

There is a pretty substantial difference in 7.25 YPA and 5.5. That stat alone is why Glennon is a bottom-tier starting option. Why don't you just tell me how good Alex Smith is with the football too.

To give Winston the benefit of the doubt, he is really young and Matt Stafford struggled even more when he was a 21 year old rookie.

Rk Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Int% Rate Sk Y/A Yds AY/A ANY/A Y/G W L T Att Yds Y/A TD Y/G1 Roethlisberger 2004 22 1-11 PIT NFL 14 13 196 295 66.44 2621 17 11 3.73 98.1 30 8.88 213 8.36 6.93 187.2 13 0 0 56 144 2.57 1 10.32 Marcus Mariota 2015 22 TEN NFL 3 3 61 97 62.89 833 8 2 2.06 109.2 12 8.59 84 9.31 7.51 277.7 1 2 0 5 25 5.00 0 8.33 Robert Griffin 2012 22 1-2 WAS NFL 15 15 258 393 65.65 3200 20 5 1.27 102.4 30 8.14 217 8.59 7.47 213.3 9 6 0 120 815 6.79 7 54.34 Cam Newton 2011 22 1-1 CAR NFL 16 16 310 517 59.96 4051 21 17 3.29 84.5 35 7.84 260 7.17 6.24 253.2 6 10 0 126 706 5.60 14 44.15 T. Bridgewater 2014 22 1-32 MIN NFL 13 12 259 402 64.43 2919 14 12 2.99 85.2 39 7.26 249 6.61 5.46 224.5 6 6 0 47 209 4.45 1 16.16 Jameis Winston 2015 21 TAM NFL 4 4 73 133 54.89 965 6 7 5.26 71.2 9 7.26 59 5.79 5.01 241.3 1 3 0 16 53 3.31 1 13.37 Josh Freeman 2009 21 1-17 TAM NFL 10 9 158 290 54.48 1855 10 18 6.21 59.8 20 6.40 102 4.29 3.69 185.5 3 6 0 30 161 5.37 0 16.18 M. Stafford 2009 21 1-1 DET NFL 10 10 201 377 53.32 2267 13 20 5.31 61.0 24 6.01 169 4.32 3.64 226.7 2 8 0 20 108 5.40 2 10.89 Kyle Boller 2003 22 1-19 BAL NFL 11 9 116 224 51.79 1260 7 9 4.02 62.4 17 5.63 92 4.44 3.75 114.5 5 4 0 30 62 2.07 0 5.610 Blaine Gabbert 2011 22 1-10 JAX NFL 15 14 210 413 50.85 2214 12 11 2.66 65.4 40 5.36 293 4.74 3.68 147.6 4 10 0 48 98 2.04 0 6.5

Here's hoping Winston can enjoy the same success that Stafford has.

 

[bfan85]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I remember another "Pro Ready" #1 pick who's first 4 games looked like this:

81 for 146, 56.315, 992 yards, 3 TDs, 11 INTs

Wonder what ever happened to that guy?

(Check's Google....)

Huh, looks like that "waste of a #1 pick" is currently the starting QB for the Denver Broncos. Looks like he's had a pretty nice career. Good thing most rational people don't write off a rookie QBs entire career as a "waste of a #1 pick" after four games.

 

[cstu]

Norman planned TD celebration before the game.

 

[Grahamburn]

Norman planned TD celebration before the game.

Get him while you can.

 

[lod01]

After 4 starts:

Mike Glennon - 106 for 181, 58.56% 997 yards, 6 TDs, 3 INTs...inferior team.

'Pro Ready' Winston - 73 for 133 54.89% 965 yards, 6 TDs, 7 INTs superior weapons to Glennon's.

Pretty much that's the definition of wasting the #1 overall pick.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I remember another "Pro Ready" #1 pick who's first 4 games looked like this:

81 for 146, 56.315, 992 yards, 3 TDs, 11 INTs

Wonder what ever happened to that guy?

(Check's Google....)

Huh, looks like that "waste of a #1 pick" is currently the starting QB for the Denver Broncos. Looks like he's had a pretty nice career. Good thing most rational people don't write off a rookie QBs entire career as a "waste of a #1 pick" after four games.

The difference is monumental. With Manning you could see an NFL caliber QB as a rookie. This guy? Please. It shouldn't take 4 games to see that he blows. Skilled talent evaluators already know he sucks. Homers need to take the goggles off. He's going to need a terrific OL, and a fantastic D to carry him. That's the only way he survives. Manning carried the team.

 

[Capella]

Skilled talent evaluators already know he sucks.

 

[lod01]

Skilled talent evaluators already know he sucks.

You do realize I am currently winning this, just like I was winning in the Tebow and Vince Young threads. As of right now he definitely totally sucks and this is a guy that was labeled 'Pro Ready' by those who actually thought they knew what they were talking about....which as we have clearly seen, did not. He'll make some throws, every QB, even Leaf and J-Fat Russell did. You will think he has arrived. He will then disappoint you just like the Tebow and Young homers.

I will actually be rooting for this loser to put up points this week because I need that owner to beat the team with Brees. So don't get your panties all in a bunch when I cheer a Stinkston TD ...to his own teammate. Zero confidence.

 

[Capella]