QB Jameis Winston, NYG (6 Viewers)

[Grahamburn]

@VeteranScout: Some of the incompletions and one of 2 INTs Jameis threw on Sunday for some perspective. #Bucs https://t.co/8kXV1OjatD

A couple blatant drops, but his ball placement is off on a few of them where the receiver has to adjust and then can't make the play. The exciting thing about how he looks is he's only played 9 games. It's somewhat odd how much his play has improved since the departure of Vincent Jackson. His numbers could be so much better if he and ASJ were on the field to make a few plays for him.

Dye made a great play on a high throw this past week, but other than that I haven't seen many wow plays from receivers.

 

[Capella]

@VeteranScout: Some of the incompletions and one of 2 INTs Jameis threw on Sunday for some perspective. #Bucs https://t.co/8kXV1OjatD

A couple blatant drops, but his ball placement is off on a few of them where the receiver has to adjust and then can't make the play. The exciting thing about how he looks is he's only played 9 games. It's somewhat odd how much his play has improved since the departure of Vincent Jackson. His numbers could be so much better if he and ASJ were on the field to make a few plays for him.

Dye made a great play on a high throw this past week, but other than that I haven't seen many wow plays from receivers.

Yea nobody is helping him out. Every qb makes some bad throws but they get some help too.

The pick intended for Myers definitely should have been caught IMO. The one dye dropped was a horrible pass.

 

[Quez]

If the ball hits you in the hands you should catch it. The ball placement wasn't perfect, but it wasn't Dilfer bad either.

 

[fbelange]

i hate mike evans

I like Mike Evans

 

[jurb26]

If the ball hits you in the hands you should catch it. The ball placement wasn't perfect, but it wasn't Dilfer bad either.

Generally I agree with this. A few of those passes were basically broke up because of his placement though. Several were just terrible drops.

 

[3nOut]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

 

[Grahamburn]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

As long as Lovie is in Tampa he'll be held back from putting up eye popping fantasy stats.

 

[cstu]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

As long as Lovie is in Tampa he'll be held back from putting up eye popping fantasy stats.

The best way for Winston to be successful is as a game manager like Russell Wilson. The trouble from him comes when you make him throw a lot. He's 1-4 with 5 TD's and 9 INT's when he has thrown 30+ passes. He's 3-1 with 5 TD's and 0 INT's when he's thrown less than 30.

 

[Soulfly3]

i hate mike evans

I like Mike Evans

I adore Mike Evans

 

[Capella]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

As long as Lovie is in Tampa he'll be held back from putting up eye popping fantasy stats.

The best way for Winston to be successful is as a game manager like Russell Wilson. The trouble from him comes when you make him throw a lot. He's 1-4 with 5 TD's and 9 INT's when he has thrown 30+ passes. He's 3-1 with 5 TD's and 0 INT's when he's thrown less than 30.

Maybe for now since he's a rookie, but good f'ing god no.

 

[Bronco Billy]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

As long as Lovie is in Tampa he'll be held back from putting up eye popping fantasy stats.

The best way for Winston to be successful is as a game manager like Russell Wilson. The trouble from him comes when you make him throw a lot. He's 1-4 with 5 TD's and 9 INT's when he has thrown 30+ passes. He's 3-1 with 5 TD's and 0 INT's when he's thrown less than 30.

Thanks. I literally laughed out loud when I read your response.

 

[Grahamburn]

So is he a top 10 QB next year? Where does he end up?

As long as Lovie is in Tampa he'll be held back from putting up eye popping fantasy stats.

The best way for Winston to be successful is as a game manager like Russell Wilson. The trouble from him comes when you make him throw a lot. He's 1-4 with 5 TD's and 9 INT's when he has thrown 30+ passes. He's 3-1 with 5 TD's and 0 INT's when he's thrown less than 30.

Oh come on. Why not use 29 attempts as your threshold?

The reason for those statistics is because he didn't play well early on in a couple games. If they had let him throw more often against New Orleans or Washington in the second half he could have put up monster numbers. He threw it 36 times against the Giants in the rain and looked amazing.

Even when he's played well and put the team out in front Lovie has held him back. Maybe this will change when he trusts him more? I doubt it though. Lovie's track record suggests otherwise.

Unless Jameis gets a "go for the jugular" coach he'll put up mediocre fantasy numbers.

 

[Capella]

I can't believe somebody, even cstu, said a guy who can throw like this should be a game manager.

 

[Faust]

Jameis Winston's dives difficult for Bucs OC to stomach

 

[Andrew]

The best way for Winston to be successful is as a game manager like Russell Wilson. The trouble from him comes when you make him throw a lot. He's 1-4 with 5 TD's and 9 INT's when he has thrown 30+ passes. He's 3-1 with 5 TD's and 0 INT's when he's thrown less than 30.

Yeah, and he's 3-0 when they have more than 30 rushing attempts!!! Just run the ball every down and they'll go undefeated!!!

 

[Faust]

Bucs' McCoy on Jameis Winston: 'It's in his blood to lead -- and to win'

 

[Faust]

Jameis Winston threatens lawsuit against CNN over documentary

 

[robb]

Any one think he is a better start than Osweiller vs. 'da Bears this week?

 

[cstu]

I can't believe somebody, even cstu, said a guy who can throw like this should be a game manager.

Why is it surprising - I've always said that his decision-making is his problem and compared him to Cutler, a guy with a big arm who makes too many mistakes.

 

[Capella]

?

 

[Capella]

I can't believe somebody, even cstu, said a guy who can throw like this should be a game manager.

Why is it surprising - I've always said that his decision-making is his problem and compared him to Cutler, a guy with a big arm who makes too many mistakes.

He hasn't made too many mistakes though.

 

[jurb26]

He's carving the Eagles up like early Thanksgiving turkey.

 

[Capella]

LOD -- Is 4 touchdowns in a half good?

 

[Vrana]

Just ridiculous today.

Wow.

 

[LOCO]

throwing darts!

 

[flapgreen]

Geez. Should I be freaking starting this dude over Bortles and Eli? Lol

 

[Capella]

5

Can we pin this thread?

 

[Frostillicus]

Caretaker QB.

 

[bud29]

What a ####### bust.

 

[Uncle Leo]

STUD

 

[Vrana]

Humphries just dropped #6

edit: Hold would have negated it anyways. Oh well.

 

[ShamrockPride]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

For the record, Philly ranks 16th defensive passing YPG. Good? No. "Hacks"? No.

 

[Grahamburn]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!

 

[Bob Magaw]

I think he's going to be pretty good.

 

[Capella]

Out of the league in 2 years

 

[Capella]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

 

[Grahamburn]

Game Manager.

 

[got_nugs]

I can't wait until ASJ gets back.

 

[Capella]

Game Manager.

Best part is this was a new statement, after lots of evidence of how good he already is.

 

[ShamrockPride]

O noes you guys!!! Winston only threw 29 times! CSTU's point still stands. Game manager.

 

[jurb26]

O noes you guys!!! Winston only threw 29 times! CSTU's point still stands. Game manager.

 

[fatness]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

 

[Bronco Billy]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

 

[mr roboto]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

Wait didn't you run some bad racist shtick like 2 years ago?

 

[Quez]

He and Cam had the exact same passing stats. 246/5

 

[lod001]

 

[lod001]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

I know what it is. They all play or played NFL QB like Tebow, Vince Young, David Carr, K-stink and Gabbert among others.

You are welcome.

 

[Bronco Billy]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

Wait didn't you run some bad racist shtick like 2 years ago?

I believe you're confusing me with Waldman.

 

[Bob Magaw]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

I know what it is. They all play or played NFL QB like Tebow, Vince Young, David Carr, K-stink and Gabbert among others.

You are welcome.

Yeah, Winston's exactly like those guys.

Thank you.

 

[lod001]

5

Can we pin this thread?

He's carving up these hacks. You gotta be playing with your Winston doll like he's your #### lover right about now.

Why yes, you were hilariously and comically wrong on this guy. Might have to give back that scouting degree you have.

Like he was hilariously wrong about Russell Wilson. And hilariously wrong about Cam Newton.

There seems to be a common denominator there. Can't quite put my finger on it...

I know what it is. They all play or played NFL QB like Tebow, Vince Young, David Carr, K-stink and Gabbert among others.

You are welcome.

Yeah, Winston's exactly like those guys.

Thank you.

Not yet. Give it time. Tebow and Vinc were talked up at one time. So was K-stink. All came crashing down.