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I could be misremembering Favre but it seemed like his typical pick was due to being overly aggressive. He read the situation/defence correctly, saw the risk, accurately calculated the likelihood of success and then threw it anyway because he believed he could "fit it in there". Winston doesn't seem to be doing that.
Out of Favre's 11 playoff appearances with Green Bay their defense ranked outside the top 15 just 3 times. 5 of those years they were top 10. Their two Super Bowl runs they were 1st and 5th. His playoff year with Minnesota they were 6th.
QB 5 in my 4 pt TD, no bonus, no penalty for ints. 10 pts out of 2ndkodycutter said:
He’s not a huge rusher but he gets a few odd scrambles every game to make up for an interception or two each game as well. He’ll always scramble for 20 yards or so and I’ll tell myself that takes an interception off the board.
Nice job cherry picking stats to try and compare Winston to a first ballot Hall of Famer. There is no way you actually believe that Winston is actually close to as good as Favre was.
Perception isn’t always reality. I certainly think Winston could be as good as Favre if he had some help.
I agree 100%. Tall, chubby, slow, weak/medium strength arm, with a similar throwing motion.SayWhat? said:it’s easy to see some striking similarities between Haskins and Winston.
Unfortunately for Winston we're getting into that "and if my aunt had balls" territory. Has he had a perfect ecosystem to develop in? Obviously not but those don't really exist and at this point, his sample size as a starter is large enough for most to close the book on him as a "franchise" guy or even long term stop gap solution. He is what he is and his career arc is looking more Ryan Fitzpatrick than Brett Favre.
He’s going to have to step into his throws with the wind. No floaters. My biggest concern is them scoring with the running game when they get in the red zone. Jax was a sieve last week
They're 3rd in the NFL in points per game on offense. I think he's utilizing the best 1-2 punch at WR just fine. I'm referring to the 31st ranked defense in the NFL.
Or, check this out, he could help himself by not throwing so many interceptions. He has 20 this year and is pace to throw almost 30. I know it's easy to blame that on the defense ("he has to take chances because their defense is so bad"), but the reality is that Winston throws awful picks even in games where the defense isn't so bad. Take Week 1. The TB defense held the 49ers top 10 offense to 256 total yards, forced 2 turnovers, and allowed only 16 points, yet they lost the game 31-17 because Winston threw 2 pick-6's, the second of which is in the conversation for worst INT I have ever seen.
Ahh. Cherry picking games now. Let's take week 3 then where the defense gets lit up by a rookie QB who obviously isn't as good as everyone thought he was after torching the Bucs for 22 second half points and 336 yards. But, hey Jameis, your 380 yards, 3 TDs, and last second drive aren't enough because the defense couldn't get a stop and the kicker hit a shank. Jameis is the problem though... Week 4 he took it upon himself to bail them out with 385 and 4 TDs. The defense gave up 40 with 20 of them in the 4th quarter.Ghost Rider said:
GMs and Coaches are suckers for QBs that have the physical tools but can't read defenses. Examples, Winston, Bortles, Jake Locker, every QB Elway has ever drafted, etc.
College isn’t the same thing but he did drive FSU 75 yards with 58 seconds left to win the national title.
They have to keep him. Otherwise you end up with some toad like Mason Rudolph leading your team.
I’m swinging back this way. I said earlier the NET was replaceable but not in days like today. He has to tighten up with age, surely.
LOL. Keep that dream alive. You tank the season and get Trevor Lawrence in the 2021 draft. Keep this pick machine and you are a ham & egger team as long as he's the QB.
I would love to have Trevor but no way in the world are they bad enough for the top pick. They’re probably going to end up 9-7 this year, next year might be similar.
Would not be surprised if that team is Carolina. Trade Cam, play Kyle, get a brand new QB for the new owner.
Kyle is good enough to win some games. Miami blew their shot by starting Fitzmagic. They could draft OL and start that Rosen bum and easily have #1. He totally blows.
Bad real life QB. Great fantasy QB.
Love good Jameis, am perplexed by bad Jameis.
