What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (1 Viewer)

Milkman said:
He's playing against the 2's right? Looked like a deer in headlights against the 1st string defense. It's to soon to judge though obviously.
Click to expand...
As a Falcons fan watching this game, the play calling didn't do him any favors. They ran Sankey for a yard, then put him in a crumbling pocket. Where were the roll outs? Let him get out of the pocket and make a play.

 
He made NFL quality throws, but he is still learning to read defenses, taking unnecessary sacks and the INT on the screen...I don't think he could have telegraphed that throw any more than he did. His line is awful, and his primary ball carrier Sankey approaches the line looking for contact and then falls down for a 3 yard gain it seems every time. It's going to be a rough year for the rookie.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Milkman said:
He's playing against the 2's right? Looked like a deer in headlights against the 1st string defense. It's to soon to judge though obviously.
Click to expand...
As a Falcons fan watching this game, the play calling didn't do him any favors. They ran Sankey for a yard, then put him in a crumbling pocket. Where were the roll outs? Let him get out of the pocket and make a play.
Click to expand...
Not to mention his WR corps is among the worst in the NFL

 
Levitre got him decked twice, still I totally expected him to be nervous. I liked a couple throws.

Mett looked eons better and had better blocking.

I want to see next game, nerves should be better and maybe a change at G(wishful)

 
Rotoworld take:

Marcus Mariota completed 7-of-8 throws for 94 yards, one touchdown, and one interception in his preseason debut Friday night.

Interception-less all camp, Mariota was intercepted in the first quarter by Falcons WLB Justin Durant, who picked off a screen-pass attempt to Bishop Sankey. Mariota rallied on the ensuing drive, showing a connection with Harry Douglas and capping the drive with a six-yard touchdown pass to Dexter McCluster. Mariota's weaponry was pretty poor tonight. The Titans trotted out a three-receiver set of Hakeem Nicks, Douglas, and Kendall Wright.

Aug 14 - 7:59 PM
Click to expand...
 
Faust said:
Rotoworld take:

Marcus Mariota completed 7-of-8 throws for 94 yards, one touchdown, and one interception in his preseason debut Friday night.Interception-less all camp, Mariota was intercepted in the first quarter by Falcons WLB Justin Durant, who picked off a screen-pass attempt to Bishop Sankey. Mariota rallied on the ensuing drive, showing a connection with Harry Douglas and capping the drive with a six-yard touchdown pass to Dexter McCluster. Mariota's weaponry was pretty poor tonight. The Titans trotted out a three-receiver set of Hakeem Nicks, Douglas, and Kendall Wright.

Aug 14 - 7:59 PM
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I don't think the McCluster TD was a pass. Thought it was a backwards toss and run.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld take:

Marcus Mariota completed 7-of-8 throws for 94 yards, one touchdown, and one interception in his preseason debut Friday night.Interception-less all camp, Mariota was intercepted in the first quarter by Falcons WLB Justin Durant, who picked off a screen-pass attempt to Bishop Sankey. Mariota rallied on the ensuing drive, showing a connection with Harry Douglas and capping the drive with a six-yard touchdown pass to Dexter McCluster. Mariota's weaponry was pretty poor tonight. The Titans trotted out a three-receiver set of Hakeem Nicks, Douglas, and Kendall Wright.

Aug 14 - 7:59 PM
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I don't think the McCluster TD was a pass. Thought it was a backwards toss and run.
Click to expand...
It wasn't a pass.
 
jurb26 said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld take:

Marcus Mariota completed 7-of-8 throws for 94 yards, one touchdown, and one interception in his preseason debut Friday night.Interception-less all camp, Mariota was intercepted in the first quarter by Falcons WLB Justin Durant, who picked off a screen-pass attempt to Bishop Sankey. Mariota rallied on the ensuing drive, showing a connection with Harry Douglas and capping the drive with a six-yard touchdown pass to Dexter McCluster. Mariota's weaponry was pretty poor tonight. The Titans trotted out a three-receiver set of Hakeem Nicks, Douglas, and Kendall Wright.

Aug 14 - 7:59 PM
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I don't think the McCluster TD was a pass. Thought it was a backwards toss and run.
Click to expand...
It wasn't a pass.
Click to expand...
it was a pitch http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2015/8/14/9157893/dexter-mccluster-scores-from-6-yards-out

 
I thought he looked good once he settled in.....it was his first time facing a 1st team NFL defense. The INT was a bad decision. The fumble was on his line.

The biggest concern is him not getting killed behind that line. He may have to more than he wants to, cuz there may not be much of a pocket

 
I thought he looked good once he settled in.....it was his first time facing a 1st team NFL defense. The INT was a bad decision. The fumble was on his line.

The biggest concern is him not getting killed behind that line. He may have to run more than he wants to, cuz there may not be much of a pocket

 
Last edited by a moderator:
It's probably an unfair criticism to say he holds on to the ball too long, because the minute he shortens his drop or makes the quick toss, he's going to be criticized as a check down Charlie. But for the Titans sake, he needs to protect himself better, until the offensive line sorts things out.

 
Former Eagles and Browns CEO Joe Banner liked what he saw.

----------

Joe Banner ‏@JoeBanner13 27m27 minutes ago

Funny to see how quickly all the Mariota skeptics are coming around. Hard to imagine how so many people missed how great he will be.

Joe Banner ‏@JoeBanner13 26m26 minutes ago

Even the Mariota believers were all saying how long it would take. He won't be really great until yr 3, but they underestimated his smarts

​

Joe Banner ‏@JoeBanner13 9m9 minutes ago

.@GageWill13 he will be good right away. He won't be "really great" right away.

--------------

A somewhat contrarian POV from NFL Media's Michael Robinson who says that Zach Mettenberger should be the starter for Tennessee. This article even speculates that if the Titans don't start him that they have a tradable commodity in Mett.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000510282/article/michael-robinson-zach-mettenberger-is-a-starter

Michael Robinson: Zach Mettenberger is a starter​

Will Zach Mettenberger's performance on Friday night spark the interest of other quarterback-needy teams?

While Marcus Mariota endured a subpar preseason debut in a 31-24 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, the Titans backup quarterback had an impressive outing.

​

The second-year pro out of LSU connected on 8 of 11 passes for 129 yards, with one touchdown and one interception against the Falcons for a 104.0 passer rating.

His stat line put NFL Media's Michael Robinson on the rather empty Mettenberger hype train.

"Zach Mettenberger is one of the 32 good quarterbacks in this league," Robinson said. "He is a starter. And I think the Tennessee Titans have an issue on their hands. A good issue."

But the superlatives didn't stop there.

"You can just see how the ball pops out of his hands and jumps out of his hands as he throws the ball. He has a strong arm. He has a great understanding of the pocket, great understanding of football concepts. I wouldn't want to be Ken Whisenhunt right now," Robinson added.

​

Mettenberger produced mediocre numbers last season for the Titans. The QB had an 83.4 rating while passing for 1,412 yards, with eight touchdowns and seven interceptions in seven games.

His rookie performance, though, wasn't impressive enough for the Titans to pass up on Oregon's Heisman Trophy winner with the No. 2 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft.

While Robinson is high on the second-year QB, Tennessee is in dire need of a spark to its franchise and Mettenberger surely doesn't ignite the fan base clamoring for a resurgence.

Mettenberger was impressive, but his performance won't spark a quarterback competition in Tennessee. However, that doesn't mean other QB-hungry teams won't come calling.

​
Click to expand...
 
Milkman said:
Downgrade Wright this year. Poor guy plays with the worst QBs ever.
Click to expand...
yep, MM won't improve this year. Nor will he utilize his best receiver.

TripItUp said:
bigmarc27 said:
Milkman said:
He's playing against the 2's right? Looked like a deer in headlights against the 1st string defense. It's to soon to judge though obviously.
Click to expand...
As a Falcons fan watching this game, the play calling didn't do him any favors. They ran Sankey for a yard, then put him in a crumbling pocket. Where were the roll outs? Let him get out of the pocket and make a play.
Click to expand...
Not to mention his WR corps is among the worst in the NFL
Click to expand...
Wright and Walker are good, the rookies have potential but yeah, overall it's well below average.

 
I thought he looked great. Offensive line looked terrible and whoever let the guy come through untouched was awful. Not Mariota's fault there. He made some great throws and I continue to believe he will impress this season.

 
Watch Teddy last year. Great first game, slump for a few due to learning curve, last few games were solid, offseason reports that he's still improving.

This is what I'd expect from MM as well. First half of season a few highlights but mostly struggle. Finish season strong and work his ### off for year 2. Preseason turnovers, meh.

 
Not a great start, but the thing he has going for him is his composure to come back after mistakes and execute.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You didn't see Mariota with Walker, a tall WR, or a FB more often than I'd expect.

Fowler is a special FB, not a typical one. He lines up in the slot and they didn't do that. DGB and Hunter are rangey long armed guys with speed. Walker has been a gem. For a bad offense, these are sizable takeaways.

I totally agree with Banner and tweeted as such- 5000 draftniks can bite me for making me read all those articles and hear all those comments how he'd struggle taking a snap under center and making it something other than what 8-9 year olds do when they start playing football...could they have made a bigger deal of nothing?

The handful that put some thought into it and discussed his presnap reads, like I said then-every other rookie QB struggle with this so I expect him to, but it has zip to do with the spread.

We never use fumbles in the stat lines we discuss. 8 of 11 with an INT and a fumble is worse. Falcons got them and ran too, it wasn't just a turnover but two sizable gifts in field position.

I thought he had a big curious pause on the fumble play. Something confused him, some WR didn't have his trust, it was "what are you looking at."

Mariota totally and completely gets a mulligan for the first two series. Rook against first NFL D.

3rd series I think is what you should accept as more normal or him getting more comfy. He was good, fine.

This kid can run. Whisenhunt has been quiet on the running and every coach has their own theory on "too much" versus effective and what's risking injury etc. I don't think you can forget that he's a very fast very smart runner. What I could see in college was most of the time he was very purposeful with his runs-10 yards and out of bounds, 8 and sliding. That's annoyingly efficient.

If the coach actually does what he says and shifts a bunch presnap so Mariota can make some reads, I think this will help the offense and Mariota.

I wanted that trade so badly. I didn't want Mariota. I think highly of Mett and am almost offended at some people still mocking/laughing at him. Cec and Bloom weren't exactly positive in their camp preview and there are MANY others like that. I feel like "Did you only see the selfies and Watt stuff?" I understand dislike but mockery throws me. It makes me think geesh he wasn't laughable at all.

I think Mett could be Jeff George like. He could throw for 4k yards and have plenty/too many mistakes amidst that. I don't think we fully know about decision making til they get more experience with some mistakes just being a rookie being a rookie. For younger guys I guess I'd compare him to Cutler's better years. I do have some concern about him with mistakes.

Mett has a great arm but not the best with touch and placement. Mariota can sling em' maybe not as far, but wow does he have touch and placement.

Mett's better than year one. There's no doubt about it, plenty of articles to support this and you'd sort of expect it too. I am curious and want to see how much better.

I have my concerns with coaching a rook and a six game guy and Tanney-do they all get the coaching they need or does Mariota get the lion's share?

Like I said months ago. Mett was the best QB last preseason in the NFL as a 6th round pick going against backups. With a head full of steam he got some time against a 1st string D and did fine but we're talking a few minutes. It's such a safe prediction to predict he will be the best preseason QB again.

He's better than 2nd and 3rd string Ds and we all know that so the stats should come.

The Titans backup WRs and RBs are arguably better than the starters. Their starters on the OL are still turnstyles while their backups actually play like linemen. When Whisenhunt makes a change, it'll be like Mariota gave his bad line to Mett and it'll be dramatic. "My grandma" can block as well as some of them.

I don't think we'll see Mett with the ones. Whisenhunt has been very focused on this is Mariota's team and there's no controversy.

If 2nd and 3rd string NFL Ds are like college, then we know Mariota would do well against them too.

I don't think we'll have real pause for divide until Mett gets in a season game and outperforms Mariota. I just don't think Whis will give it to us in preseason.

Buffalo is really stinkin cold and I don't think just any QB can play there. Some people pretend like Tampa and Buff are the same. Buffalo would need a dome like Minny to be considered a normal place to go. Warm up playing in NJ or Mass snow is not something most QBs want to do nor would be real good at. Going from Georgia, to LSU, to TEN I gotta guess Mett would be in total shock the first time there's 4 feet of snow and it's 10 below zero. If I were them I'd want a QB that has some cold weather experience.

 
TripItUp said:
Not to mention his WR corps is among the worst in the NFL
Click to expand...
I think you'll be totally wrong here.

Nicks is fading like he's old and already wearing down which is creepy at 27 but..Hunter and DGB completely change the dynamic of the offense.

Turzilli couldn't be a bigger wildcard and McBride seems itching for an opportunity.

We'll see. It'll be fun to see how this turns out. Just wanted to say I totally disagree

 
Another bit of information from Pro Football Focus: Mariota was 3-of-3 for 60 yards in passes 10 or more yards down the field, while Winston was just 3-of-11 for 75 yards in that department.
Click to expand...
 
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 22m22 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: Mariota was very comfortable with drops and sets, natural with his movements. Good feel for progressions.#Titans
Click to expand...
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 21m21 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: Third-and-12 to Douglas was an NFL throw for Mariota. That's what he's going to have to do in league. #Titans
Click to expand...
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 19m19 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: Mariota was not least bit frenetic, didn't look to move. #Titans
Click to expand...
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 18m18 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: Levitre and Warmack both struggled. Poutasi pretty did well at RT. Showed traits.
Click to expand...
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 18m18 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: I'd be anxious to see more of Poutasi at RT. #Titans
Click to expand...
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 14m14 minutes ago

.@gregcosell on @Midday180: Winston was uneven, not as good as Mariota. Trouble recognizing middle of field defenders. More compact. #Bucs
Click to expand...
 
Faust said:
Behind O-line under construction, Marcus Mariota gets national stage vs. Rams:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/175647/behind-o-line-under-construction-marcus-mariota-gets-national-stage-vs-rams
Click to expand...
Last week, this week, and week 1. I like that the rook gets three national games in his first 5 weeks. He's got a lot of pressure on him and a national game just adds to it. At least he gets to feel it in preseason to get used to it. Winston tomorrow night too, good for him too

 
ha interesting you guys feel that way. Titans have a lot of deep speed, you're probably about to see his arm soon

 
We're looking at a multi year pro bowler here...sometimes you can just see it early...like with Andrew Luck.

I thought he was way overdrafted, thought he was more of a project...he looks way more advanced than I expected at this stage.

He must have been eating, sleeping and breathing football the past 4 months.

Very impressive.

 
Big step in progress from game 1 to game 2. He looked much more comfortable in the pocket. His TD pass... Err should have been TD pass... To McCluster was a great demonstration of climbing the pocket and keeping his eyes down field. He did revert back on the next drive unfortunately, getting happy feet in the face of the blitz, not stepping into his throw to the flat and throwing pick... Err should have been a pick... To Barron.

I like the progression. Hopefully he continues on this path.

 
jurb26 said:
Big step in progress from game 1 to game 2. He looked much more comfortable in the pocket. His TD pass... Err should have been TD pass... To McCluster was a great demonstration of climbing the pocket and keeping his eyes down field. He did revert back on the next drive unfortunately, getting happy feet in the face of the blitz, not stepping into his throw to the flat and throwing pick... Err should have been a pick... To Barron.

I like the progression. Hopefully he continues on this path.
Click to expand...
On that dropped TD to McCluster, Mariota looked like a seasoned vet. He felt the pressure, moved up, threw a strike....Also, that throw on the run (to the right) to the TE? showed great touch.....Im sure we'll see ups and downs this season, but I'm pretty optimistic about this kid.

 
Manster said:
jurb26 said:
Big step in progress from game 1 to game 2. He looked much more comfortable in the pocket. His TD pass... Err should have been TD pass... To McCluster was a great demonstration of climbing the pocket and keeping his eyes down field. He did revert back on the next drive unfortunately, getting happy feet in the face of the blitz, not stepping into his throw to the flat and throwing pick... Err should have been a pick... To Barron.

I like the progression. Hopefully he continues on this path.
Click to expand...
On that dropped TD to McCluster, Mariota looked like a seasoned vet. He felt the pressure, moved up, threw a strike....Also, that throw on the run (to the right) to the TE? showed great touch.....Im sure we'll see ups and downs this season, but I'm pretty optimistic about this kid.
Click to expand...
On the TE throw, I liked the spin of the ball and how it sailed. He throws a pretty pass.

That will be extremely significant if he stays settled down because the Titans have dropped a ton of passes for years N years. A difficult catch is that much harder when Vince throws a bullet or duck or when Locker throws it at the WRs feet. To have one just nicely come down might just be a bigger deal than it seems today.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

BigTex
QB Jaxson Dart, NYG
5 6 7
Replies
319
Views
17K
ponchsox
ponchsox
T
Travdogg's positional rankings (summer edition)
2
Replies
84
Views
7K
wgoldsph
wgoldsph
JohnnyU
Arch Manning vs LaNorris Sellers, which is best for fantasy?
2
Replies
60
Views
2K
JohnnyU
JohnnyU

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top