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Many seem to be assuming that Sanchez has already won the starting job for the Jets... not so fast there Mr. Quickdraw!

First off, Snachez getting the next preseason game start against the Ravens was planned before even the first game. Lots of folks, including FBG has read far too much into that starting announcement. Here is what Cimini (NY Daily News Jets beat reporter) had to say in his blog:

August 17, 2009

Another subpar practice for the $50 million rookie. What's up with that? Since his sparkling debut against the Rams, Mark Sanchez has struggled with his accuracy in three straight practices.

This afternoon, in steamy conditions at SUNY-Cortland, Sanchez completed two of four passes. In a red-zone drill, he lofted a poorly thrown fade that was nearly picked off by CB Lito Sheppard. It was an abbreviated practice, as Rex Ryan stopped it after 45 minutes, presumably because of the heat.

Kellen Clemens was on his game this afternoon, going 5-for-5 -- including a TD pass to Wallace Wright in a red-zone drill.

How will this affect the QB competition? Clearly, Sanchez still is the favorite, but the organization wants to see more consistency from him on a day-to-day basis. That said, he still can nail down the job with a solid outing Monday night in Baltimore.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/#ixzz0OYQFwBFR

Other local reporters think it's still a 50-50 proposition, given 3 consequitive bad practices by Sanchez since his one drive headline grabbing performance against the Rams. Ryan has said he wanted to name a starter by the 3rd preseason game, but has hedged a little bit on that. Now he says he'd like to name a starter by then.

My opion, as it has been since Sanchez was drafted, was that he would have to be consistant and avoid turnovers to beat Clemens out. One drive against the Rams who never blitzed him does not prove much of anything. Sanchez is clearly the furure starter, but when does that future start? The jury is passing notes to the judge right now, and the verdict is uncertain, to say the least.

My advice is IF you are crazy enough to draft Sanchez in a redraft as a #2 QB, you best get Clemens too.

From a homer standpoint, and as a FF player, I hope Sanchez wins, and plays well..... only he has the arm to hit David Clowney deep, and Clowney is the best deep threat the Jets have had since Wesley Walker. Clowney could be the WR sleeper of the year, but only if Sanchez wins the job. Clemens just doesn't have the arm.... it's like watching Chad II. Good game manager, can read the D, can lead but has a weak arm.

Sanchez is still a rookie, who came out a year early despite protestations from his collge HC. He may, may, just not be quite ready yet.

 
I suppose this thread got lost in the Favre furor some what, but I did expect to see some Sanchez lovers cry FOUL!

But, I did expect to see a quick response from staff, since they are also projecting Sanchez as the starter. I hope they are right... I love Clowney if Sanchez starts as a homer and Clowney owner, but I have my doubts.

 
I'm someone who thought the Jets should go with Clemens and use the draft to help fill other holes while picking up a FA QB... I think Woody wanted a "Face" to the franchise... We can't be blinded by what Ryan and Flacco did last year - more often than not, rookies struggle mightily....

With this schedule, especially the start, I think it could be useful to be patient and start Clemens... Let Sanchez learn for a few games at least - I think whoever the QB, he's going to have a rough time....

If Clemens does play well, it's not the end of the world knowing you could have 2 decent QB's....

On the other hand, if Sanchez starts and struggles a lot, it's harder to sit him and go back....

Of course the more exciting option is to start Sanchez... And that's what Rex saw in Balt last year.

So, I agree with the 50/50 crowd.

Sep 13 @Houston 1:00pm

Sep 20 New England 1:00pm

Sep 27 Tennessee 1:00pm

Oct 4 @New Orleans 4:05pm

Oct 12 @Miami 8:30pm

Oct 18 Buffalo 4:15pm

Oct 25 @Oakland 4:05pm

Nov 1 Miami 1:00pm

Week 9 BYE

Nov 15 Jacksonville 1:00pm

Nov 22 @New England 4:15pm

Nov 29 Carolina 1:00pm

Dec 3 @Buffalo 8:20pm

Dec 13 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm

Dec 20 Atlanta 1:00pm

Dec 27 @Indianapolis 4:15pm

Jan 3 Cincinnati 1:00pm

Fantasy wise - I won't own Jet QB's.... I agree, that 1 drive proves nothing.

 
Many seem to be assuming that Sanchez has already won the starting job for the Jets... not so fast there Mr. Quickdraw!

First off, Snachez getting the next preseason game start against the Ravens was planned before even the first game. Lots of folks, including FBG has read far too much into that starting announcement. Here is what Cimini (NY Daily News Jets beat reporter) had to say in his blog:

August 17, 2009

Another subpar practice for the $50 million rookie. What's up with that? Since his sparkling debut against the Rams, Mark Sanchez has struggled with his accuracy in three straight practices.

This afternoon, in steamy conditions at SUNY-Cortland, Sanchez completed two of four passes. In a red-zone drill, he lofted a poorly thrown fade that was nearly picked off by CB Lito Sheppard. It was an abbreviated practice, as Rex Ryan stopped it after 45 minutes, presumably because of the heat.

Kellen Clemens was on his game this afternoon, going 5-for-5 -- including a TD pass to Wallace Wright in a red-zone drill.

How will this affect the QB competition? Clearly, Sanchez still is the favorite, but the organization wants to see more consistency from him on a day-to-day basis. That said, he still can nail down the job with a solid outing Monday night in Baltimore.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/#ixzz0OYQFwBFR

Other local reporters think it's still a 50-50 proposition, given 3 consequitive bad practices by Sanchez since his one drive headline grabbing performance against the Rams. Ryan has said he wanted to name a starter by the 3rd preseason game, but has hedged a little bit on that. Now he says he'd like to name a starter by then.

My opion, as it has been since Sanchez was drafted, was that he would have to be consistant and avoid turnovers to beat Clemens out. One drive against the Rams who never blitzed him does not prove much of anything. Sanchez is clearly the furure starter, but when does that future start? The jury is passing notes to the judge right now, and the verdict is uncertain, to say the least.

My advice is IF you are crazy enough to draft Sanchez in a redraft as a #2 QB, you best get Clemens too.

From a homer standpoint, and as a FF player, I hope Sanchez wins, and plays well..... only he has the arm to hit David Clowney deep, and Clowney is the best deep threat the Jets have had since Wesley Walker. Clowney could be the WR sleeper of the year, but only if Sanchez wins the job. Clemens just doesn't have the arm.... it's like watching Chad II. Good game manager, can read the D, can lead but has a weak arm.

Sanchez is still a rookie, who came out a year early despite protestations from his collge HC. He may, may, just not be quite ready yet.
I don't own Sanchez in any of my two leagues, but I am totally convinced of his ultimate success--if not this year -- by 2011. Conversely, I always believed Kellen Clemens would not be starting material, even three years ago when they took a flyer on him. But, yes, people always jump to conclusions early in camp, they want something to be so bad that they simply convince htemselves.

I think the media is rapidly convincing themselves of Sanchez, because, there isnt a better story for NY. However, this time, I think everyone is going to be right :lmao:

 
as a big Jet fan - I would be fine with Clemmens starting for a while - I am willing to be patient and would rather not rush Sanchez in there if hes not ready. It would be a lot easier for him to come in later then be benched a few games in.

 
Many seem to be assuming that Sanchez has already won the starting job for the Jets... not so fast there Mr. Quickdraw!

First off, Snachez getting the next preseason game start against the Ravens was planned before even the first game. Lots of folks, including FBG has read far too much into that starting announcement. Here is what Cimini (NY Daily News Jets beat reporter) had to say in his blog:

August 17, 2009

Another subpar practice for the $50 million rookie. What's up with that? Since his sparkling debut against the Rams, Mark Sanchez has struggled with his accuracy in three straight practices.

This afternoon, in steamy conditions at SUNY-Cortland, Sanchez completed two of four passes. In a red-zone drill, he lofted a poorly thrown fade that was nearly picked off by CB Lito Sheppard. It was an abbreviated practice, as Rex Ryan stopped it after 45 minutes, presumably because of the heat.

Kellen Clemens was on his game this afternoon, going 5-for-5 -- including a TD pass to Wallace Wright in a red-zone drill.

How will this affect the QB competition? Clearly, Sanchez still is the favorite, but the organization wants to see more consistency from him on a day-to-day basis. That said, he still can nail down the job with a solid outing Monday night in Baltimore.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/#ixzz0OYQFwBFR

Other local reporters think it's still a 50-50 proposition, given 3 consequitive bad practices by Sanchez since his one drive headline grabbing performance against the Rams. Ryan has said he wanted to name a starter by the 3rd preseason game, but has hedged a little bit on that. Now he says he'd like to name a starter by then.

My opion, as it has been since Sanchez was drafted, was that he would have to be consistant and avoid turnovers to beat Clemens out. One drive against the Rams who never blitzed him does not prove much of anything. Sanchez is clearly the furure starter, but when does that future start? The jury is passing notes to the judge right now, and the verdict is uncertain, to say the least.

My advice is IF you are crazy enough to draft Sanchez in a redraft as a #2 QB, you best get Clemens too.

From a homer standpoint, and as a FF player, I hope Sanchez wins, and plays well..... only he has the arm to hit David Clowney deep, and Clowney is the best deep threat the Jets have had since Wesley Walker. Clowney could be the WR sleeper of the year, but only if Sanchez wins the job. Clemens just doesn't have the arm.... it's like watching Chad II. Good game manager, can read the D, can lead but has a weak arm.

Sanchez is still a rookie, who came out a year early despite protestations from his collge HC. He may, may, just not be quite ready yet.
Clemens did look good yesterday in practice (both morning and afternoon), though he was running with the #1 offense and Sanchez with the #2. They continue to swap 1st and 2nd team reps.While Sanchez didn't look as good in the late practice yesterday, he was better in the morning in full pads and it didn't look like many press reps were there early on in the day yesterday (though there were a few... not sure who was there though).

 
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Whoever starts, I think Sanchez will finish the season. Do you guys think Sanchez would have had a second series if the first hadn't gone as well as it did? I do.

 
It may have been a plan to start Sanchez in the second preseason game, but Kellen Clemens didn't seem to know it. Here is a quote from ESPN:

Maybe nothing has changed in Jets coach Rex Ryan's mind, but Kellen Clemens told reporters after Sunday morning's workout at SUNY Cortland that he had found out he won't be starting Aug. 24 against the Baltimore Ravens "about six minutes ago." "It was a preordained plan that they are letting us know step-by-step," Clemens said with a laugh.

The problem is that Clemens has been a turnover machine in practice. He just throws too many picks, and doesn't seem to be able to "feel" the pressure. So if avoiding turnovers is your criteria for which one to start, then I'm not sure that Clemens wins that one.

 
rufan said:
It may have been a plan to start Sanchez in the second preseason game, but Kellen Clemens didn't seem to know it. Here is a quote from ESPN:

Maybe nothing has changed in Jets coach Rex Ryan's mind, but Kellen Clemens told reporters after Sunday morning's workout at SUNY Cortland that he had found out he won't be starting Aug. 24 against the Baltimore Ravens "about six minutes ago." "It was a preordained plan that they are letting us know step-by-step," Clemens said with a laugh.

The problem is that Clemens has been a turnover machine in practice. He just throws too many picks, and doesn't seem to be able to "feel" the pressure. So if avoiding turnovers is your criteria for which one to start, then I'm not sure that Clemens wins that one.
If you watch this clip at about 1:20, Ryan talks about Sanchez getting the start against the Ravens, and says"... it was down on paper with pencil that way, but he earned it..." Sorry, that's the best I could find, but Ryan said all along that Clemens would start the 1st game, Sanchez the second, and he hoped to decide on the starter for the regular season by the 3rd preseason game. http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/multimedia...start-vs-ravens

I suppose the "Official" announcement was this week, but I've heard Ryan say this over 2 weeks ago, and it was widely reported. I think Clemens comments were a bit tongue in cheek. Cimini reported this in his blog as well, but I am having trouble getting to his blog lately.

I'd think it's a reach to say Clemens has been a turn over machine in practice, from what I have read, they are both throwing INT's and poor passes on a daily basis.

Sort of wierd.... Clemens reminds me more and more of Pennington who never did protect the ball very well when he was in the pocket either.

I just hope Sanchez puts it to rest with a good outing against the Ravens, but the Rams never did try to blitz or pressure Sanchez last week.... you know the Ravens will come down on the rook with both barrells blazing. That D, while they loved Ryan, would love nothing more than rattling his rookie QB back into the front row. I think it could get ugly.

 
I suppose the "Official" announcement was this week, but I've heard Ryan say this over 2 weeks ago, and it was widely reported. I think Clemens comments were a bit tongue in cheek. Cimini reported this in his blog as well, but I am having trouble getting to his blog lately. I'd think it's a reach to say Clemens has been a turn over machine in practice, from what I have read, they are both throwing INT's and poor passes on a daily basis. Sort of wierd.... Clemens reminds me more and more of Pennington who never did protect the ball very well when he was in the pocket either. I just hope Sanchez puts it to rest with a good outing against the Ravens, but the Rams never did try to blitz or pressure Sanchez last week.... you know the Ravens will come down on the rook with both barrells blazing. That D, while they loved Ryan, would love nothing more than rattling his rookie QB back into the front row. I think it could get ugly.
I heard the same thing about Sanchez starting game 2 a few weeks ago as well, but I was surprised when Clemens made that comment. As for turning the ball over, based on training camp reports, Clemens has turned the ball more than Sanchez...and many times in the red zone. Sure Sanchez has turned it over, but not as much as Clemens has. In any case, the point stands that if the basis for choosing the starting QB is who turns it over less, Clemens doesn't automatically the nod. Clemens really seems to lack pocket presence, which is also very concerning.
 
Sanchez will be the starter sooner than later, especially if they get off to a slow start to the season and he's not the starter. I'd give the kid as much time as possible to learn this game at the pro level.

Let's not forget he left as a junior and although most view playing at USC as a positive thing, in terms of playing in a pro style type offense, there are negatives. He was surrounded by a ton of talent compared to other college teams, so things were easy for him. He's going to be getting hit a lot harder and defenses will be a lot more aggressive compared to the pressure he received as the big linemen from USC blocked for him.

I expect a pretty big learning curve for Sanchez, I'd keep him out of the starting lineup as long as possible, they'll be plenty of time for him to play in front of the hostile NY crowd.

 
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