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QB Taylor Heinicke, ATL (1 Viewer)
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Silver & Black
Footballguy
I remember watching him last season and being impressed. I like this kid and think he has a chance to be a solid player.
rockaction
Footballguy
Two of the most likable quarterbacks in the league wound up in Washington after Haskins. The karma of that organization just changed with Rivera somehow. WFT for the win.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
TakiToki
Footballguy
This 7-min video showed up in my yt feed a few months back and made me feel hopeful in deep sf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6U7fGjSSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6U7fGjSSA
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Feels like a possible Tony Romo-esque ascension could happen here. Alas, my dynasty league is not quite seep enough to grab this guy.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Don't know much about him and was surprised about the above. Got him about a month ago as a throw in
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Hope he can save McClaurin because the scary terry pick is looking horrific next to Lamb, Cooper, Kupp, Godwin, etc etc
Helaire-ious
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DarkKnightsGuru
Footballguy
Do you think he has a chance to surprise us all and be a top 10-12
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
feel good story guy, undersized, weak arm. hope he makes the most of his opportunities, but nothing I read about him says NFL starting QB.
He was a backup in the XFL to Jordan Taamu who can't seem to catch a break in the NFL.
He looked like a former arena or XFL guy last year- little risky, little too eager, fun though fun. He looks wayyy more mature this year. It's incredible what some time in a system and some confidence can do to a player.
If their D can give him an easy win here...he's only confidence away from being a solid starter. Fitz might not get his job back
He looked like a former arena or XFL guy last year- little risky, little too eager, fun though fun. He looks wayyy more mature this year. It's incredible what some time in a system and some confidence can do to a player.
If their D can give him an easy win here...he's only confidence away from being a solid starter. Fitz might not get his job back
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Dude looks the part. Giant D is awful but he made some great throws and his receivers made some great catches.
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I said it Wednesday night in Random Shots. Dismiss Taylor Heinicke at your peril. Dude can play. He’s not Tom Brady. But he’s pretty good.
rockaction
Footballguy
I wouldn't rush to anoint him. To make an analogy, dude is a righty that throws 89 mph and straight in baseball. Teams might really adjust to his below-average arm strength and accuracy. Make him throw outside the hashes by shading the cornerbacks to the inside shoulder. Make him throw deep by bringing up the safeties. Basic stuff. The thing that encouraged me was that the throw to Seals-Jones had some oomph.
But really, it reminds me of Minshew Mania after his great Thursday night against Tennessee in 2019. Heinecke has had a couple of rock solid games against good defenses in the pros, but nobody has had the chance to adjust. He left tons of yards last night on the field w/r/t YAC. He missed McLaurin several times behind him and Humphries several times in front of him on basic slants and screens.
He wasn't actually that good.
That's really the gut assessment I have from last night. Could be wrong.
But really, it reminds me of Minshew Mania after his great Thursday night against Tennessee in 2019. Heinecke has had a couple of rock solid games against good defenses in the pros, but nobody has had the chance to adjust. He left tons of yards last night on the field w/r/t YAC. He missed McLaurin several times behind him and Humphries several times in front of him on basic slants and screens.
He wasn't actually that good.
That's really the gut assessment I have from last night. Could be wrong.
rockaction
Footballguy
I just realized I was speaking the language of sinners, saints, and baseball. I am on the wrong site, folks. Thanks for indulging me.
jabarony
Footballguy
Agreed on his accuracy. He wasn't missing by a ton, but he was off enough to make his receivers really work. He missed high a bit too much which could have resulted in INTs or his receivers getting crushed. Thankfully for him that didn't happen.
He should probably not do that as much going forward.
facook
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, Aikman was really kind to his medicine balls. I mean, he threw one to Humphries and I think one to Brown that could have gotten either of them killed in yesterday's game.
Now, that point is "yesterday's game," but there is nothing stopping a clean hit if the ball gets there simultaneously to the player like we saw last night. In fact, there was an interference call on Bradberry, if I'm not mistaken, because the ball was clearly thrown up for grabs into almost triple coverage. You won't get away with that too often.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, you just touched a nerve from me last night. Every time they showed Logan Thomas running a route, he was dogging it or running the route wrong. There was one in particular that he had to flatten out and he just drifted right into the DB. Uh uh. No, Logan. Bad job.
Some of what you're saying is repeating the announcers. I think it's a bad habit for announcers to say "missed soandso" when a QB completes a pass. I get it when a pass is incomplete and someone is wide open but if he completes the pass, the guy did nothing wrong.
You're underestimating his coaches and his experience in the rest.
rockaction
Footballguy
No, I'm actually not. I saw him miss Humphries badly and they blamed Humphries and the turf for him falling.
I'd be awfully careful about saying that I'm repeating the announcers. I repeat nobody consciously. He missed McLaurin on a slant so badly that Terry could have taken it to the house. I'd be real careful about saying that.
rockaction
Footballguy
I seriously don't listen to Troy Aikman and Joe Buck other than to think that they're buffoons. I still think Jones overthrew Darius Slayton in real time.
Saying I'm "underestimating his coaches and his experience" is almost laughable. He's in his fifth game. He's got no experience. He's got Ron Rivera, a defensive guy, as his coach. Scott Turner did very little with the Panthers during his tenure on the offensive side of the ball. He's the guy that actually managed to bury Curtis Samuel. Let's not anoint them geniuses yet.
I'm talking about his arm strength and how teams will adjust to it. Hitters sit on 89 much differently than they do 95. So do DBs. You can't coach an arm, really. You can put him in positions to succeed, but he'll suffer the fate of every weak-armed QB to date if what I'm seeing is truly a weaker/inaccurate arm.
If he reads defenses like Brady and has a coach like Belichick/McDaniels, bless the guy. He'll do very well. He's got Ron Rivera and is in his fourth or fifth real game.
Saying I'm "underestimating his coaches and his experience" is almost laughable. He's in his fifth game. He's got no experience. He's got Ron Rivera, a defensive guy, as his coach. Scott Turner did very little with the Panthers during his tenure on the offensive side of the ball. He's the guy that actually managed to bury Curtis Samuel. Let's not anoint them geniuses yet.
I'm talking about his arm strength and how teams will adjust to it. Hitters sit on 89 much differently than they do 95. So do DBs. You can't coach an arm, really. You can put him in positions to succeed, but he'll suffer the fate of every weak-armed QB to date if what I'm seeing is truly a weaker/inaccurate arm.
If he reads defenses like Brady and has a coach like Belichick/McDaniels, bless the guy. He'll do very well. He's got Ron Rivera and is in his fourth or fifth real game.
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Capella
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Every pass he threw to McLaurin, I was thinking Terry wouldn’t get up. They were coming in way high.
rockaction
Footballguy
I thought he was going to stay down, too, while watching the passes. I'm writing, though, because I realize I was unclear about what I meant by "yesterday's game." I meant it to mean "the game of yore," not literally "yesterday's game" played yesterday. I meant that those were utter kill balls if he threw them fifteen years ago. But much like Scott Stevens's hits don't exist anymore in hockey, nor do those kind of hits from a safety, for the most part.
But all it takes is one medicine ball and one simultaneously timed hit below the head and legal, and McLaurin is out of the game for good.
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Summer Wheat
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Players seem to like playing for Taylor. Tay had a nice game stat wise and a good win for The Team.
Earlier in the half, Heinicke connected with Terry McLaurin for an 11-yard touchdown -- one play after they hooked up for a 16-yard gain.
"He's always ready for his moment," McLaurin said. "I love this guy."
rschroeder1
Footballguy
For fantasy purposes (not real life purposes), the key to me is whether Heinicke is a QB who will add a minimum of 6-7 carries per game. With 12 carries/72 yards in his two previous career starts (admittedly a small sample), I had some hope we might see that aspect of his game last night.
There were at least two times he did attempt to run when the turf monster attacked, but overall he clearly was not looking to be on the move.
The question to me is whether he was coached to try to stay in the pocket, given the very early stages of his development.
There were at least two times he did attempt to run when the turf monster attacked, but overall he clearly was not looking to be on the move.
The question to me is whether he was coached to try to stay in the pocket, given the very early stages of his development.
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TampaMike19
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I liked what I saw, especially from the mental makeup perspective. He looked down and out after he threw that crushing INT, but he was given another chance, and he made some plays and got the team in position to win. Not a ton of QBs can do that, let alone a QB that's starting on 4 days notice with not much starting experience.
Let's see what this team can do for him in the next 10 days, plus defensive adjustments. They should rely on Play Action more with him, but yeah, I'm still a tad nervous for McLaurin as he ran a ton of routes yesterday and was making crazy plays, but he kept getting up.
That is some impressive conditioning by both sides of the ball on the receiver sides.
Let's see what this team can do for him in the next 10 days, plus defensive adjustments. They should rely on Play Action more with him, but yeah, I'm still a tad nervous for McLaurin as he ran a ton of routes yesterday and was making crazy plays, but he kept getting up.
That is some impressive conditioning by both sides of the ball on the receiver sides.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
How are we feeling about Logan Thomas with him at QB? (Fantasy wise)
