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Ballsy move by SF to move on so quickly. Kudos for not chase spilled milk
Or Micah or a ton of other guys. 7 pro bowlers were taken in front of LanceSF could have had Chase ouch
The drama isn't good for SF. This was in the cards once they demoted Lance to QB3. No way they keep Lance and this circus around Purdy.Ballsy move by SF to move on so quickly. Kudos for not chase spilled milk
I can’t believe the niners got a fourth round pick for an unproven and QB that has not shown much of anything after a couple of years. Not sure what Dallas is doing. It’s going to take more than 4 good games for Lance to have trade value.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
It was in the cards way before that. Most Niner fans knew this was coming.The drama isn't good for SF. This was in the cards once they demoted Lance to QB3. No way they keep Lance and this circus around Purdy.Ballsy move by SF to move on so quickly. Kudos for not chase spilled milk
Purdy's got all the pressure on him now (same for Shanny and Lynch). They better hope he continues to shine, or it will get ugly.
Exactly.Nobody knows if he's good or bad. The 49ers didn't have the time to find out. Maybe Dallas does. That's absolute truth.
It's a 4th round pick, he has good tools. I don't see a problem.What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
!Exactly.Nobody knows if he's good or bad. The 49ers didn't have the time to find out. Maybe Dallas does. That's absolute truth.
No one knows
Yeah, like maybe 9 and they anoint him the starter and trade away the guy they gave a king's ransom to get? 9 games is how many games Brock Purdy played. Mr. Irrelevant.I can’t believe the niners got a fourth round pick for an unproven and QB that has not shown much of anything after a couple of years. Not sure what Dallas is doing. It’s going to take more than 4 good games for Lance to have trade value.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
Yeah, because he proved that stepping in and playing as the 262nd pick. What incredible moxie he has to step in where nobody thought he'd be worth a **** and play. This is pressure. You're the guy now. We just sent Lance and all the investment we made toward him away. Go win us a Super Bowl. Not sure he's ever been faced with that type of pressure but hey.. you got Sam Darnold.I can’t believe the niners got a fourth round pick for an unproven and QB that has not shown much of anything after a couple of years. Not sure what Dallas is doing. It’s going to take more than 4 good games for Lance to have trade value.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
It was in the cards way before that. Most Niner fans knew this was coming.The drama isn't good for SF. This was in the cards once they demoted Lance to QB3. No way they keep Lance and this circus around Purdy.Ballsy move by SF to move on so quickly. Kudos for not chase spilled milk
Purdy's got all the pressure on him now (same for Shanny and Lynch). They better hope he continues to shine, or it will get ugly.
There is definitely pressure on Purdy, but he doesn't let pressure bother him, I think he will embrace the challenge/pressure and play at a high level.
Yeah, like maybe 9 and they anoint him the starter and trade away the guy they gave a king's ransom to get? 9 games is how many games Brock Purdy played. Mr. Irrelevant.I can’t believe the niners got a fourth round pick for an unproven and QB that has not shown much of anything after a couple of years. Not sure what Dallas is doing. It’s going to take more than 4 good games for Lance to have trade value.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
You can get rich off one game played... see: Flynn, Matt (Detroit Lions v. Green Bay - nothing on the line).
If he comes out for 4 games and balls out like the #3 overall pick, you don't think he has trade value beyond a 4th round pick? Lol. @massraider isn't saying, if he wins 4 games he has value... you've invested minimal capital to this guy. If he comes out and has any semblance of talent relative to the First Round Grade he had been given... you don't have to worry about his value because he's probably staying and you're looking at Dak Prescott's trade value. However, value can be built in a 4 game stretch and discrediting that doesn't make sense.
I think we are saying he's been in an offense for years. Trey Lance has been in the 49er offense like I've been in porn. Mostly on the outside looking in.Yeah, like maybe 9 and they anoint him the starter and trade away the guy they gave a king's ransom to get? 9 games is how many games Brock Purdy played. Mr. Irrelevant.I can’t believe the niners got a fourth round pick for an unproven and QB that has not shown much of anything after a couple of years. Not sure what Dallas is doing. It’s going to take more than 4 good games for Lance to have trade value.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
You can get rich off one game played... see: Flynn, Matt (Detroit Lions v. Green Bay - nothing on the line).
If he comes out for 4 games and balls out like the #3 overall pick, you don't think he has trade value beyond a 4th round pick? Lol. @massraider isn't saying, if he wins 4 games he has value... you've invested minimal capital to this guy. If he comes out and has any semblance of talent relative to the First Round Grade he had been given... you don't have to worry about his value because he's probably staying and you're looking at Dak Prescott's trade value. However, value can be built in a 4 game stretch and discrediting that doesn't make sense.
From my viewings of him this preseason, he looked totally lost in an offense he's been in for years. Making some very bad reads. Now moving to a new offense, yeah, going to say zero chance he "balls out". Dallas is going to be fighting for the NFC East, if Prescott goes down, Lance most likely isn't going to be the guy that gets the call to fill in.
Dallas has been pretty good drafting in the 4th round. Tony Pollard, Dak Prescott, Tyler Biadasz, Jabril Cox, Jake Ferguson. 5 starters this year from round 4. That's a pretty good track record and I hate Dallas.
Good post. Like many have mentioned, he (probably more than any other young highly drafted quarterback I can think of) needEd experience in order to see if he can develop. Hopefully he gets a chance at redemption some day.Anyone saying Trey has looked lost hasn't watched. He's a slow starter and gets better as he plays.
Against the Raiders, he started 2-4, then completed 8 of his final 11 throws.
Against the Broncos, he started 4-9, then completed 8 of his final 9 throws.
Next practice, he started 0-4, then completed his final 4 throws.
No agenda, just posting facts. I like Trey. Im kinda bummed he went to a garbage organization, but they paid for him fair and square.
You can be snarky about it but the Niners, who invested 3 first round picks in Lance thought Brock Purdy & Sam Darnold were better than him.5-1! Rush is better than Dak!Who says he's the QB2 in Dallas ATM? They have a guy who is 5-1 as the starter.I was saying this when you made your he won't be a QB2 comment. QB2 is a wasteland. You could do a lot worse than Lance. You can throw Lance in the trash in a year or two if he doesn't develop.Whelp
I'm posting a lot in here and I don't stand in either camp.Either you're a Shanahan/Lynch truther and refuse to believe this is one of the worst "let's move up in the draft" trades of all time. Or you feel bad for him because he hasn't gotten a shot.
How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
Man. When you lay it out this way, it’s even crazier that San Fran not only drafted him 3rd overall but traded that many assets to move up and get him.How many 4th round picks have the possible upside?
Maybe he comes in for four games and looks great, and they trade him. Great move by Dallas.
What has Lance shown since he's come into the NFL that would indicate that he could play 4 games and be good. Has he had 4 good games in a season ever? You probably have to go back to to high school.
Lance only had 99 passing attempts in high school and about 300 total in college. His entire career starting at Pop Warner he’s had fewer attempts than most starting NFL or college QBs have in one season. It’s extraordinary. Normally you’d absolutely expect multiple people to get fired for a mistake of this magnitude.
@Chaka You and most people are overthinking this.You can be snarky about it but the Niners, who invested 3 first round picks in Lance thought Brock Purdy & Sam Darnold were better than him.5-1! Rush is better than Dak!Who says he's the QB2 in Dallas ATM? They have a guy who is 5-1 as the starter.I was saying this when you made your he won't be a QB2 comment. QB2 is a wasteland. You could do a lot worse than Lance. You can throw Lance in the trash in a year or two if he doesn't develop.Whelp
Don't forget the fact that the Niners didn't want to pay even $900k for the rest of this year on a QB you allege is worthy of a starting role in the NFL, but they're happy to pay Darnold $4.5 mil.
The facts, the real facts not the alternative ones, tell the story. It's your choice whether or not you want to hear it.
No one, not even me (and I am nowhere near his biggest detractor) is closing the book on his career. He's young and has NFL caliber physical tools, we think. He still has a chance to do great things.
But, let's see where Lance lands on the Dallas depth chart before suggesting this move was anything more that a blind dart throw for the Cowboys.
Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Maybe so.Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Can't say Levis is better than Willis
Can't say....preseason is over and battles were won. Kudos to the victors
FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
It's not maybe.Maybe so.Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Can't say Levis is better than Willis
Can't say....preseason is over and battles were won. Kudos to the victors
I'd take a ride on the Lance train over Darnold. We know what Darnold is. He's a backup QB at best. Usually, you take the upside guy who is younger and unknown and bet on the upside. QB2 guys like Darnold are a dime a dozen.
Do you think SF starts Darnold over Lance if Purdy would've been out the first 1-2 months of the season?Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
The results aren't at face value. There are politics at play.It's not maybe.Maybe so.Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Can't say Levis is better than Willis
Can't say....preseason is over and battles were won. Kudos to the victors
I'd take a ride on the Lance train over Darnold. We know what Darnold is. He's a backup QB at best. Usually, you take the upside guy who is younger and unknown and bet on the upside. QB2 guys like Darnold are a dime a dozen.
We had debates and discussions and every opinion was valid.
Now though is results time
Absolutely, 100%. Zero doubt.Do you think SF starts Darnold over Lance if Purdy would've been out the first 1-2 months of the season?Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
Well ya, he easily won the qb2 job on the team. Of course he would have been the starter.Do you think SF starts Darnold over Lance if Purdy would've been out the first 1-2 months of the season?Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
One of those dudes is still on the team, and it ain’t Lance.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Yes. Easily. 100%Do you think SF starts Darnold over Lance if Purdy would've been out the first 1-2 months of the season?Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
Completely agree, and it’s not a hard question to answer. Snap yes and not close.Absolutely, 100%. Zero doubt.Do you think SF starts Darnold over Lance if Purdy would've been out the first 1-2 months of the season?Correct. And when it comes to QB2, Kyle wants the higher floor than ceiling.I'm not arguing floor. Darnold has had years of starts in the league. Of course, his floor is higher than Lance's.FTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Sorry, you're wrong. Shanahan LOVES Darnold, and has since before he was even drafted. There was almost no chance Lance would have started over Darnold if Lance hadn't been traded.
With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time. Every time.
No, there aren’t. That the 49ers would allegedly play politics over prioritizing winning football games is a wholly preposterous assertion IMO.The results aren't at face value. There are politics at play.It's not maybe.Maybe so.Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Can't say Levis is better than Willis
Can't say....preseason is over and battles were won. Kudos to the victors
I'd take a ride on the Lance train over Darnold. We know what Darnold is. He's a backup QB at best. Usually, you take the upside guy who is younger and unknown and bet on the upside. QB2 guys like Darnold are a dime a dozen.
We had debates and discussions and every opinion was valid.
Now though is results time
This is all it comes down to.With a SB roster, Shanahan is starting the guy with 50+ starts over the guy with 4 starts every time.
Every time.
Very fair and well considered response.@Chaka You and most people are overthinking this.You can be snarky about it but the Niners, who invested 3 first round picks in Lance thought Brock Purdy & Sam Darnold were better than him.5-1! Rush is better than Dak!Who says he's the QB2 in Dallas ATM? They have a guy who is 5-1 as the starter.I was saying this when you made your he won't be a QB2 comment. QB2 is a wasteland. You could do a lot worse than Lance. You can throw Lance in the trash in a year or two if he doesn't develop.Whelp
Don't forget the fact that the Niners didn't want to pay even $900k for the rest of this year on a QB you allege is worthy of a starting role in the NFL, but they're happy to pay Darnold $4.5 mil.
The facts, the real facts not the alternative ones, tell the story. It's your choice whether or not you want to hear it.
No one, not even me (and I am nowhere near his biggest detractor) is closing the book on his career. He's young and has NFL caliber physical tools, we think. He still has a chance to do great things.
But, let's see where Lance lands on the Dallas depth chart before suggesting this move was anything more that a blind dart throw for the Cowboys.
It's simple: Lance got hurt, and Purdy came in and stole the job. I stand by what I said about the politics of them wanting (needing) to move on from Lance for the sake of Purdy. They had to choose one or the other and had an easy choice once Purdy was healthy for W1. This trade and the demotion to QB3 was SF waving goodbye to the media circus. That's my opinion and where I'm putting a period on the Lance SF saga. It's a new age now. Purdy is SF's guy and Lance gets a fresh start in Dallas. I'll be rooting for both to succeed!
Unfortunately, politics plays a role in lots of situations and the best or most talented person isn’t always 1a.No, there aren’t. That the 49ers would allegedly play politics over prioritizing winning football games is a wholly preposterous assertion IMO.The results aren't at face value. There are politics at play.It's not maybe.Maybe so.Can't say thatFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Can't say Levis is better than Willis
Can't say....preseason is over and battles were won. Kudos to the victors
I'd take a ride on the Lance train over Darnold. We know what Darnold is. He's a backup QB at best. Usually, you take the upside guy who is younger and unknown and bet on the upside. QB2 guys like Darnold are a dime a dozen.
We had debates and discussions and every opinion was valid.
Now though is results time
Sure, maybe. I don’t really trust anything a coach — especially one like Shanahan who is well versed at narrative spinning — says to the media.Shanahan says Trey Lance was emotional upon getting the news of being the third-string QB. That's why the day off was given.
Lance took some time to think about it (becoming 3rd string QB) and came back asking for a chance to be QB2 elsewhere.
Spot onFTR, Darnold ain't better than Lance. This move was all about Purdy > Lance. Darnold was safe insurance for Purdy's injury. I 100% doubt Darnold would've started over Lance if Purdy was out the first part of the season. Sorry @Hot Sauce Guy
Drop in 1qb leagues? What's his rookie pick value for superflex?