QB Trey Lance, LAC (3 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers

I don’t see anything resembling this happening.

 

[zamboni]

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

Atlanta would be a very interesting fit if it comes to fruition. Ridder might not have a long term future and it’s obviously a very run heavy team.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

Atlanta would be a very interesting fit if it comes to fruition. Ridder might not have a long term future and it’s obviously a very run heavy team.

Please god no

Signed,


-Pitts shareholder

 

[dipandglide]

hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers

I don’t see anything resembling this happening.

I would agree if forced to bet on the outcome. There are only 32 starters in the world. That's a tough fraternity to break into.

 

[dipandglide]

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

Atlanta would be a very interesting fit if it comes to fruition. Ridder might not have a long term future and it’s obviously a very run heavy team.

Please god no

Signed,


-Pitts shareholder

I'd rather have Lance than Ridder. Ridder is a bum.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

Atlanta would be a very interesting fit if it comes to fruition. Ridder might not have a long term future and it’s obviously a very run heavy team.

Please god no

Signed,


-Pitts shareholder

I'd rather have Lance than Ridder. Ridder is a bum.

I’d rather have a better QB than both. Which shouldn’t be that difficult. lol

 

[efactor]

Lance is way better than Brandon Allen and everyone knows it. It might be good for a laugh or endear you to some posters, but it's not even close to a fact.

He was good enough at football to be the starter over Jimmy going into last season, so there's that.

Purdy is the starter because he’s a significantly better QB.

Gee, did you think of that one by yourself? Nobody has made the argument that Purdy isn't better. He's great

He was drafted high enough to be given the start over Jimmy. He was never better than Jimmy. He was never a capable QB, and the play calling showed it.

Totally wrong. Kyle had a team with super bowl aspirations and wasn't starting Lance because of his draft capital. He started him because he thought he was an upgrade from Jimmy. Jimmy only came back after they couldn't trade him and he took a massive pay cut. If Jimmy was better, Jimmy would have been the starter week 1.

If he beat out Brandon Allen, he’d be the QB3 right now.

Again, totally wrong. So many more components go into this and you know it. It just shows how far off base you will go to try to make your off base point

Sometimes this stuff isn’t that complicated. I’m a Niners fan. I wish it were different.

While most of your posting is solid, you are so far off base here.

 

[Chaka]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Lance is way better than Brandon Allen and everyone knows it. It might be good for a laugh or endear you to some posters, but it's not even close to a fact.

He was good enough at football to be the starter over Jimmy going into last season, so there's that.

Purdy is the starter because he’s a significantly better QB.

Gee, did you think of that one by yourself? Nobody has made the argument that Purdy isn't better. He's great

He was drafted high enough to be given the start over Jimmy. He was never better than Jimmy. He was never a capable QB, and the play calling showed it.

Totally wrong. Kyle had a team with super bowl aspirations and wasn't starting Lance because of his draft capital. He started him because he thought he was an upgrade from Jimmy. Jimmy only came back after they couldn't trade him and he took a massive pay cut. If Jimmy was better, Jimmy would have been the starter week 1.

If he beat out Brandon Allen, he’d be the QB3 right now.

Again, totally wrong. So many more components go into this and you know it. It just shows how far off base you will go to try to make your off base point

Sometimes this stuff isn’t that complicated. I’m a Niners fan. I wish it were different.

While most of your posting is solid, you are so far off base here.

We can agree to disagree.

Feels like the fact that Lance couldn’t win the QB2 proves me correct, but not a Tyreek hill I need to die on.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

the problem is he isn't good enough to play

/topic

#RIP Lance’s career. We hardly knew ye.

 

[efactor]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

You can say that about a lot of young QBs. Lance is 23. Levis looks like crap and can't beat out Willis who looked like total crap last year. The fact that Levis threw 630 passes in college is meaningless as far as his potential going forward. Makes Zero sense.

 

[dipandglide]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

Lance was good enough to start for the 49ers last year. Just stop with this narrative. Lance got hurt, Purdy balled out, and the 49ers are ridding themselves of any continued controversy.

 

[Chaka]

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

Atlanta would be a very interesting fit if it comes to fruition. Ridder might not have a long term future and it’s obviously a very run heavy team.

Please god no

Signed,


-Pitts shareholder

I'd rather have Lance than Ridder. Ridder is a bum.

I’d rather have a better QB than both. Which shouldn’t be that difficult. lol

Ridder is worlds better than Lance ATM. Light years ahead. 54 starts in college and Atlanta over the last five years with 1,400+ attempts, Lance has 22 over the same span with 420 attempts.

I feel for Lance, I really do. Had he remained healthy last season his story would be a lot different but, at this point he's entering his third NFL season and still a raw project QB.

 

[Chaka]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

You can say that about a lot of young QBs. Lance is 23. Levis looks like crap and can't beat out Willis who looked like total crap last year. The fact that Levis threw 630 passes in college is meaningless as far as his potential going forward. Makes Zero sense.

It's not meaningless at all. Levis has fresh, valuable live game reps that Lance simply does not. Preseason performances are meaningless particularly with the third string.

Lance is an idea at this point, not a football player.

 

[Wingnut]

Lombardi:

Shanahan from the KNBR excerpt echoes the refrain that the 49ers have taken this whole offseason — that they want as many QBs as possible, including Lance, in the building.

But that's obviously easier said than done once the roster cutdown deadline approaches. And there's also the human element — which Shanahan addressed at the end — Lance might not be on board with being down at No. 3 on the order:

"I'm really hoping (Lance can stay with the 49ers). This isn't a thing that we're giving up on Trey. This is more about how Brock played in his seven games and that was decided before the season started and how good Sam has looked. They've both looked good. But we do have to make a decision here. And you only get so many reps at it. And we feel that, starting about 10 days ago, Sam really separated himself and we've gotta keep it real in that way.

"But I feel very, very fortunate to have both of them here. I really hope when it's said and done that all three of these guys are here and you never know when that's going to come up. We needed four guys last year. It doesn't happen much, but if we can have Trey as an option here, I would feel extremely happy about that. I think the other quarterbacks in our room would and I think our team would. Trey's a very well-liked guy, one of the better people I've been around. And I do think he's going to have a lot of success in this league. It's been a tough road for him because the times he has gotten an opportunity, he ended up getting hurt and missed that window and now he's in this position.

"We'll always try to do right for Trey. If he's in a better situation that his heart's in and something like that, we're going to make sure to do something that doesn't hurt him in that. So that's stuff I talked to him about this morning, that's stuff that I'll talk to him about tonight and continue to talk to him about. But Trey knows how I feel about him and I hope he ends up being able to be here and that's the best thing for him, but we've gotta see what is the best thing from now until then."

 

[Chaka]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

Lance was good enough to start for the 49ers last year. Just stop with this narrative. Lance got hurt, Purdy balled out, and the 49ers are ridding themselves of any continued controversy.

Was he? Was he really? I think @Wingnut is the guy to ask here but I seem to remember a lot of questions being asked about Lance's readiness for that role.

Regardless, he did get hurt and had another wasted season getting no live reps. Dude is so raw his nickname should be Tartare. I truly feel for him because he apparently has some legitimate physical tools. He will get another shot, I am certain of that but he is the same project QB he was coming out of college.

 

[Chaka]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

You can say that about a lot of young QBs. Lance is 23. Levis looks like crap and can't beat out Willis who looked like total crap last year. The fact that Levis threw 630 passes in college is meaningless as far as his potential going forward. Makes Zero sense.

It's not meaningless at all. Levis has fresh, valuable live game reps that Lance simply does not. Preseason performances are meaningless particularly with the third string.

Lance is an idea at this point, not a football player.

Quite possibly the worst take in this thread and that's saying a lot.

I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now.

 

[efactor]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

Lance was good enough to start for the 49ers last year. Just stop with this narrative. Lance got hurt, Purdy balled out, and the 49ers are ridding themselves of any continued controversy.

Was he? Was he really? I think @Wingnut is the guy to ask here but I seem to remember a lot of questions being asked about Lance's readiness for that role.

Regardless, he did get hurt and had another wasted season getting no live reps. Dude is so raw his nickname should be Tartare. I truly feel for him because he apparently has some legitimate physical tools. He will get another shot, I am certain of that but he is the same project QB he was coming out of college.

Well of course there was some question due to his inexperience, but the head coach of a successful team thought it was a good idea, so I'll go with that over what anyone on this board would think. Unfortunately for him he got hurt so that question wasn't answered. Fortunately for the team, Jimmy got hurt too and the Brock Purdy experience happened.

If Purdy had never gotten a chance, he may still be the 3rd string QB. Just goes to show that a lot of shiot happens that even the best coaches aren't aware will happen. If Shanahan thought Purdy was going to be as good as he was, he wouldn't have waited for Jimmy to go down.

 

[dipandglide]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

You can say that about a lot of young QBs. Lance is 23. Levis looks like crap and can't beat out Willis who looked like total crap last year. The fact that Levis threw 630 passes in college is meaningless as far as his potential going forward. Makes Zero sense.

It's not meaningless at all. Levis has fresh, valuable live game reps that Lance simply does not. Preseason performances are meaningless particularly with the third string.

Lance is an idea at this point, not a football player.

Quite possibly the worst take in this thread and that's saying a lot.

I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now.

Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and Tennessee just to name a few. You could argue Atlanta, Dallas, Buffalo, Arizona, and many more. The NFL is a QB-starved league.

 

[efactor]

If I’m the Vikings, I pay as much as a 3rd. All in if they can get him for that or less.

I think if SF could get a third, they'd do carwheels.

Why? Will Levis just got drafted at pick 33 in the 2023 draft. He's a year older than Lance. You think Lance is worth less than Will Levis?

Yes.

Levis has thrown 630 passes over the last two seasons, Lance has 420 over the last five. Levis is, by far, more ready to suit up in an NFL game.

Lance won't improve if he can't play, the problem is he isn't good enough to play. Very few teams can afford to bring in what is effectively a roster clogger and bring him along slowly.

You can say that about a lot of young QBs. Lance is 23. Levis looks like crap and can't beat out Willis who looked like total crap last year. The fact that Levis threw 630 passes in college is meaningless as far as his potential going forward. Makes Zero sense.

It's not meaningless at all. Levis has fresh, valuable live game reps that Lance simply does not. Preseason performances are meaningless particularly with the third string.

Lance is an idea at this point, not a football player.

Quite possibly the worst take in this thread and that's saying a lot.

I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now.

Then there are a lot of poorly run NFL teams.

 

[Bri]

This is the best news Lance owners could hope for. Yet another case of injury creating an opportunity for others and them seizing it. It's just an unfortunate situation that became prickly due to all the politics of the trade three years ago.

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

They were done with Jimmy G too don't forget. Possibly twice. This isn't the first time he didn't meet expectations.
I don't get your stick it to the Niners narrative. He's been given chances upon chances. What's he to be angry about?

 

[dipandglide]

This is the best news Lance owners could hope for. Yet another case of injury creating an opportunity for others and them seizing it. It's just an unfortunate situation that became prickly due to all the politics of the trade three years ago.

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

They were done with Jimmy G too don't forget. Possibly twice. This isn't the first time he didn't meet expectations.
I don't get your stick it to the Niners narrative. He's been given chances upon chances. What's he to be angry about?

You wouldn't have a chip on your shoulder if you were Lance? They basically kicked him to the curb for Purdy because of injury.

It'd be wild if Purdy comes out and stinks. It's unlikely due to the talent around him. It's still a possibility.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Lance was good enough to start for the 49ers last year

I don’t believe this for a minute, honestly.

IMO the 49ers were under tremendous pressure to start him because of sunk cost.

They had to not only find out (I suspect they already knew) but show the world he wasn’t good enough. There was public outcry to start Lance. They paid so much - had to find out., yada yada yada.

But again, the 49ers saw him at practice. They knew.

Once Purdy showed out there was no reason to pretend any more. They have their starter. Lance was a bad pick. Time for the team to move on.

 

[LawFitz]

POST-6/1 RELEASE 2023 Dead Cap: $14,612,158 2024 Dead Cap: $5,540,959 2023 Cap Savings: $-5,310,719

POST-6/1 TRADE 2023 Dead Cap: $5,540,959 2024 Dead Cap: $5,540,959 2023 Cap Savings: $3,760,480

Given the 9ers current Bosa situation, and the above dynamic, I'd say they would be lucky to get a conditional 7th rounder for Lance, unless multiple teams get involved in the auction (which could happen).

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They basically kicked him to the curb for Purdy because of injury.

And for the fact that he wasn’t able to QB the team & Purdy was.

It wasn’t because of his injury. It was because he can’t play.

The narrative that Lance got Wally Pipp’d is false.

 

[dipandglide]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

Ah, apologies, I missed that part.

I don’t think he’s good enough to back up Josh Allen. I don’t see any contending team placing a wager that if [Allen, LJax, Burrow, Hurts, etc] goes down, Trey Lance is their ace in the hole to win a SB with their win-now roster.

If he were, he’d be the QB2 on the Niners, right?

As such, i would remove any contending/win-now team from the list.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Was he? Was he really? I think @Wingnut is the guy to ask here but I seem to remember a lot of questions being asked about Lance's readiness for that role.

We all heard the camp reports. We all saw the writing on the wall. Everyone was nervous that JimmyG was leaving because reports out of camp were deeply concerning. Lance wasn’t as fast on his feet as expected. Lance had processing challenges making reads. Etc, etc.

There was more to the JimmyG re-signing than face value.

 

[Bri]

This is the best news Lance owners could hope for. Yet another case of injury creating an opportunity for others and them seizing it. It's just an unfortunate situation that became prickly due to all the politics of the trade three years ago.

I hope Lance gets an actual opportunity and sticks it to the 49ers. I'd love it if he went to Tampa, Atlanta, or even Minnesota.

They were done with Jimmy G too don't forget. Possibly twice. This isn't the first time he didn't meet expectations.
I don't get your stick it to the Niners narrative. He's been given chances upon chances. What's he to be angry about?

You wouldn't have a chip on your shoulder if you were Lance? They basically kicked him to the curb for Purdy because of injury.

It'd be wild if Purdy comes out and stinks. It's unlikely due to the talent around him. It's still a possibility.

It's not usually a surprise to players when they're beaten out. Those that say it is often recant that some time after too.

 

[dipandglide]

At least we got finality to this saga. It's been a weird journey. What other top 3 picks only got a handful of starts?

 

[efactor]

IMO the 49ers were under tremendous pressure to start him because of sunk cost.

They had to not only find out (I suspect they already knew) but show the world he wasn’t good enough. There was public outcry to start Lance. They paid so much - had to find out., yada yada yada.

But again, the 49ers saw him at practice. They knew.

Once Purdy showed out there was no reason to pretend any more. They have their starter. Lance was a bad pick. Time for the team to move on.

No they weren't. You act like they had to answer to their fans. They played Lance because they thought he had the better chance to get them over the top. They lost a super bowl and an NFC championship game because they had such a huge disadvantage at QB. Shanahan plays who he thinks has the best chance to make the team win. To say he listened to the fanbase is ludicrous. lol

Purdy was great, which is a good thing for team and the fan base but they didn't even know what they had or he would have been playing sooner.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Was he? Was he really? I think @Wingnut is the guy to ask here but I seem to remember a lot of questions being asked about Lance's readiness for that role.

We all heard the camp reports. We all saw the writing on the wall. Everyone was nervous that JimmyG was leaving because reports out of camp were deeply concerning. Lance wasn’t as fast on his feet as expected. Lance had processing challenges making reads. Etc, etc.

There was more to the JimmyG re-signing than face value.

100%. I had Lance, Mitchell, Deebo and Kittle (over two leagues) and closely followed it all. Hot Sauce is spot on with this.

 

[efactor]

Was he? Was he really? I think @Wingnut is the guy to ask here but I seem to remember a lot of questions being asked about Lance's readiness for that role.

We all heard the camp reports. We all saw the writing on the wall. Everyone was nervous that JimmyG was leaving because reports out of camp were deeply concerning. Lance wasn’t as fast on his feet as expected. Lance had processing challenges making reads. Etc, etc.

There was more to the JimmyG re-signing than face value.

100%. I had Lance, Mitchell, Deebo and Kittle (over two leagues) and closely followed it all. Hot Sauce is spot on with this.

No. They didn't resign Jimmy until he took a massive pay cut and couldn't get anything better than what a comp pick would equal. They wanted a backup in case their young QB who was expected to run a fair amount got hurt. Again a team with super bowl aspirations didn't want to leave it in the hands of Nate Sudfeld. It was a great move after Jimmy agreed to the pay cut.

 

[dipandglide]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

Ah, apologies, I missed that part.

I don’t think he’s good enough to back up Josh Allen. I don’t see any contending team placing a wager that if [Allen, LJax, Burrow, Hurts, etc] goes down, Trey Lance is their ace in the hole to win a SB with their win-now roster.

If he were, he’d be the QB2 on the Niners, right?

As such, i would remove any contending/win-now team from the list.

I agree. I said Lance would be on par or better than many teams QB2.

I'll give you your kudos about saying Darnold would beat out Lance. I didn't think that would happen and whiffed hard. Personally, I think it's more political, and the 49ers did not want to deal with continued questions about Lance heading into the season as one of the favorites to win the SB. Imagine the stress this has on Lynch, Shanahan, Purdy, and all the players. The media loves drama. They would've milked it all season.

 

[thecatch]

Waiting for the Brandon Allen beat out Lance link.

 

[efactor]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

Ah, apologies, I missed that part.

I don’t think he’s good enough to back up Josh Allen. I don’t see any contending team placing a wager that if [Allen, LJax, Burrow, Hurts, etc] goes down, Trey Lance is their ace in the hole to win a SB with their win-now roster.

If he were, he’d be the QB2 on the Niners, right?

As such, i would remove any contending/win-now team from the list.

If any of those guys go down for the season, their teams aren't winning the super bowl regardless of who the back-up is.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMO the 49ers were under tremendous pressure to start him because of sunk cost.

They had to not only find out (I suspect they already knew) but show the world he wasn’t good enough. There was public outcry to start Lance. They paid so much - had to find out., yada yada yada.

But again, the 49ers saw him at practice. They knew.

Once Purdy showed out there was no reason to pretend any more. They have their starter. Lance was a bad pick. Time for the team to move on.

No they weren't. You act like they had to answer to their fans. They played Lance because they thought he had the better chance to get them over the top. They lost a super bowl and an NFC championship game because they had such a huge disadvantage at QB. Shanahan plays who he thinks has the best chance to make the team win. To say he listened to the fanbase is ludicrous. lol

Purdy was great, which is a good thing for team and the fan base but they didn't even know what they had or he would have been playing sooner.

I’m not saying they listened to the fan base.

I believe there was pressure both externally and internally to find out what Lance had.

IMO ownership was also putting pressure on Shanny/Lynch. That had a lot more to do with it.

And to the extent that ownership feels the heat from the fan base (which is not nothing) I believe that may have influenced it a bit.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Waiting for the Brandon Allen beat out Lance link.

If Lance is dealt and Allen is on the team, you have your answer.

 

[dipandglide]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

Ah, apologies, I missed that part.

I don’t think he’s good enough to back up Josh Allen. I don’t see any contending team placing a wager that if [Allen, LJax, Burrow, Hurts, etc] goes down, Trey Lance is their ace in the hole to win a SB with their win-now roster.

If he were, he’d be the QB2 on the Niners, right?

As such, i would remove any contending/win-now team from the list.

If any of those guys go down for the season, their teams aren't winning the super bowl regardless of who the back-up is.

I hadn't thought about the QB2 landscape much until Chaka brought it up. It's a dumpster fire.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If any of those guys go down for the season, their teams aren't winning the super bowl regardless of who the back-up is.

I dunno about that. And it’s not a zero sum equation.

Does Lance give the Ravens a better chance than Huntley? I think not.

 

[thecatch]

Waiting for the Brandon Allen beat out Lance link.

If Lance is dealt and Allen is on the team, you have your answer.

No, I wouldn’t. If they trade Lance they’ll get draft picks and/or cap relief that they won’t get from moving Allen. Allen took his first snaps in live action in weeks today, there’s no way he beat anybody out. There’s evidence for the Lance isn’t good at football narrative but you and a couple other folks in here are engaging in a lot of hyperbole.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Buffalo

Did Josh Allen retire?

"I am sorry you feel that way but it's true. I am not sure there is a team in the NFL he walks into and becomes the #2 QB right now."

I didn't know Allen was QB1 and QB2. He probably is which makes my point about Lance being better than Barkley.

Ah, apologies, I missed that part.

I don’t think he’s good enough to back up Josh Allen. I don’t see any contending team placing a wager that if [Allen, LJax, Burrow, Hurts, etc] goes down, Trey Lance is their ace in the hole to win a SB with their win-now roster.

If he were, he’d be the QB2 on the Niners, right?

As such, i would remove any contending/win-now team from the list.

I agree. I said Lance would be on par or better than many teams QB2.

I'll give you your kudos about saying Darnold would beat out Lance. I didn't think that would happen and whiffed hard. Personally, I think it's more political, and the 49ers did not want to deal with continued questions about Lance heading into the season as one of the favorites to win the SB. Imagine the stress this has on Lynch, Shanahan, Purdy, and all the players. The media loves drama. They would've milked it all season.

I honestly don’t see it as political. IMO Darnold is a decent QB who’s had terrible teams around him.

He finally went to a team with weapons and able coaching & he’s looking pretty good.

He was a very good QB coming out of college. I wasn’t thinking it was a super bold call when I made it, but I appreciate that.

 

[efactor]

IMO the 49ers were under tremendous pressure to start him because of sunk cost.

They had to not only find out (I suspect they already knew) but show the world he wasn’t good enough. There was public outcry to start Lance. They paid so much - had to find out., yada yada yada.

But again, the 49ers saw him at practice. They knew.

Once Purdy showed out there was no reason to pretend any more. They have their starter. Lance was a bad pick. Time for the team to move on.

No they weren't. You act like they had to answer to their fans. They played Lance because they thought he had the better chance to get them over the top. They lost a super bowl and an NFC championship game because they had such a huge disadvantage at QB. Shanahan plays who he thinks has the best chance to make the team win. To say he listened to the fanbase is ludicrous. lol

Purdy was great, which is a good thing for team and the fan base but they didn't even know what they had or he would have been playing sooner.

I’m not saying they listened to the fan base.

Then what is "public outcry'? lol

I believe there was pressure both externally and internally to find out what Lance had.

IMO ownership was also putting pressure on Shanny/Lynch. That had a lot more to do with it.

And to the extent that ownership feels the heat from the fan base (which is not nothing) I believe that may have influenced it a bit.

Lynch and Shanahan have made it clear that Jed has no input on the football side. Both you exit immediately if he had any serious input. They do show him public respect which Harbaugh didn't do, but he had no say in any of this.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but you and a couple other folks in here are engaging in a lot of hyperbole.

It’s a fantasy football forum. Hyperbole is our lifeblood.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Then what is "public outcry'? lol

As I said, it does put pressure on ownership to put pressure on coaches/GM.

 

[efactor]

If any of those guys go down for the season, their teams aren't winning the super bowl regardless of who the back-up is.

I dunno about that. And it’s not a zero sum equation.

Does Lance give the Ravens a better chance than Huntley? I think not.

Maybe, maybe not, but the Ravens aren't winning a super bowl with Huntley which was my point. Bills aren't winning if Allen gets goes out for season. Same with all the other teams.

 

[efactor]

but you and a couple other folks in here are engaging in a lot of hyperbole.

It’s a fantasy football forum. Hyperbole is our lifeblood.

But we are talking real football in this case

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but you and a couple other folks in here are engaging in a lot of hyperbole.

It’s a fantasy football forum. Hyperbole is our lifeblood.

But we are talking real football in this case

Unfortunately not for Trey Lance.

 

[efactor]

Then what is "public outcry'? lol

As I said, it does put pressure on ownership to put pressure on coaches/GM.

No it doesn't. Fans care if the team wins or not. Didn't hear a single fan saying they hoped Jimmy made it back for the playoffs last year.