QB/WR from the same team... (1 Viewer)

[glock]

The likes of Bulger and Holt, Delhomme and Smith, McNabb and TO... Either incidently or planned, do you ever draft a QB and WR from the same team?

To me it looks like potential feast or famine and I'm not sure I would want to go down that road.

How 'bout you? If you have, please share your experiences- pro's and con's.

 

[msommer]

Done it a few times, not seeking it out, not going out of my way to avoid it. Last year was probably the worst experience (Brooks/Horn) but that was mostly due to Horn getting hurt.

I don't think I would go for a Losman/Evans or Smith/Battle combo, but Peyton/Wayne or Harrison or Bledsoe/TO is of a different caliber.

 

[Capt Hook]

It is a very good option when there is a Weekly Prize involved or if you want to maximize your scoring against a weak pass defense team. If you don't overpay for the combo, then I think it is worthwhile

 

[glock]

Done it a few times, not seeking it out, not going out of my way to avoid it. Last year was probably the worst experience (Brooks/Horn) but that was mostly due to Horn getting hurt.

I don't think I would go for a Losman/Evans or Smith/Battle combo, but Peyton/Wayne or Harrison or Bledsoe/TO is of a different caliber.

Stud QB and his top WR vs a stud WR and his QB- does it make a difference?

 

[valhallan]

A guy got Palmer and CJ in my distance scoring league last year and mopped up. Not sure it would have been as great in a normal league, but with the distance bonuses he dominated.

 

[msommer]

Done it a few times, not seeking it out, not going out of my way to avoid it. Last year was probably the worst experience (Brooks/Horn) but that was mostly due to Horn getting hurt.

I don't think I would go for a Losman/Evans or Smith/Battle combo, but Peyton/Wayne or Harrison or Bledsoe/TO is of a different caliber.

Stud QB and his top WR vs a stud WR and his QB- does it make a difference?

Probably not - it might make scoring more extreme

 

[Snotbubbles]

Manning/Harrison for the past 2 years.

 

[fsufan]

Culpepper and Moss two years ago, start up dynasty league. Wanted the double TDs, 12 points, for years to comes

 

[glock]

Manning/Harrison for the past 2 years.

...and...?Seems to me if it's a fairly prolific pairing it goes without saying that it would work. However, somewhere- perhaps outside the top 5... or top 10 QB's... at some point the payoff will tail off enough to make a pairing less and less productive...and eventually a negative.

 

[stealthrunner]

I did it in two leagues last year.

League #1: Took Randy Moss in second round, and Gannon in late mid rounds. We get a bonus for long TDs, so I started off VERY strong and then it all went to hell.

League #2: Got CJ in second round, and grabbed Carson in round 4 or 5. Worked out great for me all year. Injuries to other positions hurt me, but it worked great.

So it really depends on the situation. I didn't reach for it in either situation, and made sure I had a decent backup for Gannon, which I got soon after him.

 

[glock]

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[Sidewinder]

Don't think I've ever done it, but in one of my homer leagues, seems like someone usually pulls one combo together.

True story, in 2003 I was playing a guy who had Manning and Harrison going against me. Happened to be the week where the Colts were in the Dome for a Sunday night game. Six Manning TD passes later (3 of which were to Harrison), I had witnessed in person the total thrashing of my real-life and fantasy teams. Alot of beer was consumed during that game...

 

[glock]

Don't think I've ever done it, but in one of my homer leagues, seems like someone usually pulls one combo together.

True story, in 2003 I was playing a guy who had Manning and Harrison going against me. Happened to be the week where the Colts were in the Dome for a Sunday night game. Six Manning TD passes later (3 of which were to Harrison), I had witnessed in person the total thrashing of my real-life and fantasy teams. Alot of beer was consumed during that game...

Ouch. Manning and Harrison alone probably did the trick...

 

[Mystery Achiever]

i've done it a few times. not intentionally - just by taking best player available. i don't think it is feast or famine with just two players.

now, last year, after some waiver wire moves, i ended up with plummer rod s, mike anderson and the denver defense! now that was a little much, but i didn't necessarily play them all on a given week. made the playoffs.

 

[glock]

Left coast?

 

[Colin Dowling]

While the occurance of "feast or famine" is certainly more prevelant, I view the concept of double-dipping more as coincidence then as a problem. In other words, I'd rather have a better QB and better WR then pass on one or the other of them for the sake of diversity. For example, would you avoid Palmer or CJ if you had already acquired one of them just because they play on the same team? Of course not...

 

[clinton_c]

Something I had a few years ago was QB to stud TE in Green to Gonzalez. It was fantasy gold.....I didn't lose a game Gonzalez scored a TD.

 

[Margaritaville Maulers]

I have done it a few times and it never worked out. Last year I had the first pick and took LT2, got Walker and Favre the rest was history. At the time it looked good everybody thought I would be fine. Walker got hurt and Favre wasn't the same. I also did it a few years back, I got Young, Rice that also backfired.

 

[BL Titans]

I ALWAYS do this if I can

Why ? On the weeks that the QB/WR hooks up for mulitple TD's it makes you a very hard team to beat.

Of course on weeks they don't it makes you vulenrable ........ but if its a solid QB/WR combo its a good strategy IMO

 

[a_f13nd]

I like QB to TE better than QB to WR, but I wouldn't reach to accomplish either. It just sometimes works out. Roethlisberger to Heath Miller gave me a bunch of wins last season. It also gave me losses when Big Ben got hurt/Miller started to be covered/tail off.

And occasionally I've picked up Boller on a week I knew Heap was going to do well. You ever just get that feeling? One week QB-TE plug-in for a ton of points. Most other weeks that combo would be an utter dud, though.

 

[bjlmonster]

I tend to actually end up with QB and a good WR#2.

Examples I have Palmer & Houshy in my dynasty.

Without giving up RB depth it is difficult to get Palmer/CJ, Manning/Harrison. You spend a 2nd and 3rd to do it. Where as You can go RB, RB, Palmer, RB, WR#1, Houshy.

 

[The Redbeard]

I tend to actually end up with QB and a good WR#2.

Examples I have Palmer & Houshy in my dynasty.

Without giving up RB depth it is difficult to get Palmer/CJ, Manning/Harrison. You spend a 2nd and 3rd to do it. Where as You can go RB, RB, Palmer, RB, WR#1, Houshy.

You beat me to this point Monster. I have found over the years that in my old school league, start 3 WR with a deep bench - I will actually target the WR2/WR3 of my QB late. Then if my QB has a particularly good matchup, I can double-dip on a big game.This strategy can pay off big when Culpepper hits Marcus Robinson for a couple TD's or leave you frustrated when Hasselbeck locks on to everyone but Bobby Engram who catches 4/49.

In answer to the origianl question - I neither shy away from nor seek out the combo. Good eggs are good, wether or not they reside in the same basket.

 

[a_f13nd]

I tend to actually end up with QB and a good WR#2.

Examples I have Palmer & Houshy in my dynasty.

Without giving up RB depth it is difficult to get Palmer/CJ, Manning/Harrison. You spend a 2nd and 3rd to do it. Where as You can go RB, RB, Palmer, RB, WR#1, Houshy.

You beat me to this point Monster. I have found over the years that in my old school league, start 3 WR with a deep bench - I will actually target the WR2/WR3 of my QB late. Then if my QB has a particularly good matchup, I can double-dip on a big game.This strategy can pay off big when Culpepper hits Marcus Robinson for a couple TD's or leave you frustrated when Hasselbeck locks on to everyone but Bobby Engram who catches 4/49.

In answer to the origianl question - I neither shy away from nor seek out the combo. Good eggs are good, wether or not they reside in the same basket.

Only thing going against the combo is that there's only one ball to go around. Yes, the ball can go from your QB to your WR for the Delicious Double Dip. But it can also create misery. Diversity isn't a bad thing. As you say, though, good eggs are good. Some high-powered offenses would put people in good shape to win most weeks. Only issue is if the team loses a key element and falls off the track your entire team is sunk. Are you really willing to live and die with a particular offense? Maybe IND, maybe not.

 

[radballs]

WCOFF, 1 ppr, you're picking from the one or two spot.

Do you take LT2 (1.02) and Gates (3.02)? Can't see myself doing it. Same team and obviously same bye week. Doesn't look good.

 

[glock]

I dreamt last night that with the keepers I have in my auction $$ league- LJ/wk 3 bye and TO/wk 3 bye, I managed to draft LT/wk 3 bye aaand Bledsoe/wk 3 bye...



It is a possibility, too.

 

[nygiants56]

its a bad approach, imo..

if the offense sputters or has a bad day, your fantasy team will, too..

I try to get guys on different teams, at all costs...

if delhomme has a 12-21-171-0-2 day, realistically, how good is steve smith going to be?

your fantasy team would suffer in 2 categories because of this..

 

[ImTheScientist]

I did it in two leagues last year.

League #1: Took Randy Moss in second round, and Gannon in late mid rounds. We get a bonus for long TDs, so I started off VERY strong and then it all went to hell.

League #2: Got CJ in second round, and grabbed Carson in round 4 or 5. Worked out great for me all year. Injuries to other positions hurt me, but it worked great.

So it really depends on the situation. I didn't reach for it in either situation, and made sure I had a decent backup for Gannon, which I got soon after him.

Had I picked Gannon last year I don't think it would have went to well either....in fact, at the draft Im pretty sure everyone would have laughed at me.

 

[glock]

I did it in two leagues last year.

League #1: Took Randy Moss in second round, and Gannon in late mid rounds. We get a bonus for long TDs, so I started off VERY strong and then it all went to hell.

League #2: Got CJ in second round, and grabbed Carson in round 4 or 5. Worked out great for me all year. Injuries to other positions hurt me, but it worked great.

So it really depends on the situation. I didn't reach for it in either situation, and made sure I had a decent backup for Gannon, which I got soon after him.

Had I picked Gannon last year I don't think it would have went to well either....in fact, at the draft Im pretty sure everyone would have laughed at me.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Last year I had Warner/McCown and Fitzgerald. Worked GREAT for me until our league semifinal when Warner got hurt after a 10-10 1 TD start. I lost by 8 points. I usually do not try one way or the other, just go by BPA.

 

[Wingnut]

In 2003 I had Manning and Wayne, but traded Manning after week 4 and finished 2nd in my league that year

In 2004 I had T Green and Kennison. Made the playoffs but finished around 4th, maybe 5th place

In 2005 I had Palmer and C Johnson. Won championship.

 

[There it is]

I don't do it by design,but sometimes it happens. Like most have said you draft the best players.

1) HTH if they get into a Defensive struggle, you could lose a week. If they get into 5, you won't make the playoffs.

2) HTH too many w/same Bye week. You have to draft back ups w/ different Byes, and you could lose a week.

3) In a total points or Draft and Go format. It may not matter at all.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Culpepper and Moss two years ago, start up dynasty league. Wanted the double TDs, 12 points, for years to comes

A guy in my local league has had both of them since they were rookies. When Moss went to Oakland las year, the dumbell traded Eli Manning for Kerry Collins.

 

[a_f13nd]

Culpepper and Moss two years ago, start up dynasty league.  Wanted the double TDs, 12 points, for years to comes

A guy in my local league has had both of them since they were rookies. When Moss went to Oakland las year, the dumbell traded Eli Manning for Kerry Collins.

Well, Manning was injured in the beginning of the season, so it probably looked better at the time. Hindsight is 20/20. Still, most could have realized Collins wouldn't cut it, if they ever suffered having him as their QB. Real-life or Fantasy. Unfortunately, I once had him for both.