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QB Zach Wilson, DEN (4 Viewers)
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facook
Footballguy
Looked awkward enough to make me think the worst, though I'm hoping for the best.
I agree.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Why was he even playing game 1 of the preseason? Sigh.
Chemical X
Footballguy
because he isn’t very good and needs the reps.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Also it was a non-contact injury. Could just as easily have happened on the practice field
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. He needed the reps. One wonders if all the weightlifting didn't stress the joint. All those offseason picks of him lifting and squatting.
:(
I really can't stand these guys who look at a video from their couch and "diagnose" injuries. Seems easy to say "ACL," then if it's wrong, they just go, "Phew!" and if it's right, they go, "See? I told you."
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hurts played.
They're not saying anything different than we are in here. When you watch it, it's typical of an ACL injury. We just hope it wasn't that severe.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
PFD is pretty good at this stuff. I believe he actually publishes his accuracy rate. He was a long time team physician for the Chargers so he’s not just some rando watching on his couch.
I don't know, I think there's a difference between what we do here on a message board and tweeting out that "ZACH WILSON TORE HIS ACL (according to a doctor who watched the video)" to thousands of people, which then gets picked up and spread as fact. I think these sports doctors are valuable at providing context for injuries. I think they do a disservice when they purport to diagnose serious injuries by watching a video.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I’m just a middle age out of shape guy but I didn’t think it looked that bad. 
The int on the other hand…
The int on the other hand…
Ah ok, gotcha. Yeah, I agree that's different.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Just saw that. And read he took a vicious late hit doing so. Neither should be playing. Sigh
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That specific doctor is usually correct tho.
I don't understand all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth over Josh Jacobs or anyone else playing football in the preseason. That's what the preseason is for, to play football and get actual game reps to develop chemistry, timing, etc. for the start of the regular season.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Mariotta and Goff started the game before as well. I think most teams start their starter for a series or 2 in the first game.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sorry, no. The preseason games are meaningless.
In the past, the 3rd preseason game was considered “dress rehearsal” and starters would play 1-2 quarters.
The preseason is to determine who the final cuts are and who’s going to make the roster. Safe to say, both Hurts & Zach Wilson were going to make their respective rosters.
Now, that said, an ACL’s an ACL’s an ACL. If it’s gonna snap, it’s gonna snap. So in this case at least he’ll be back sooner:
But the preseason historically is not for starters. That’s why people made a big deal out of Jacobs - because it’s sends a message that he’s not a critical part of the raiders roster if they’re willing to risk him in game 1 of the preseason.
With the shorter preseason, coaches are more willing to take risks to get game-action reps. I get it. But I still think it’s a risk not worth taking.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah - it seems to be the trend with the shorter preseason schedule.
Like I just said, I still think it’s an unnecessary risk.
I guess we'll agree to disagree.
rockaction
Footballguy
Starters often play the first few series of downs in the first game if they're not established stars. Wilson is not. This is not a Jets malfunction. It's a knee malfunction.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not blaming anyone - just saying my personal feelings on playing players in the preseason that you know will make the team.
Or at least simplifying the offense so he’s not out there scrambling.
But again, I’m old school. I remember when starters did’t play until the 3rd game & the 4th was scrub ball.
Lol, old school is playing your players to get them ready for the season.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
To be clear on this, #Jets coach Robert Saleh was saying initial tests indicated Zach Wilson's ACL is intact but he won't be convinced until the MRI is done. He was basically saying from what he was told the ACL is supposedly intact, as in that's what the docs told him.
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I'm on the side of playing Wilson was the right thing to do. This could have easily happened in practice too, it was non-contact after all.
Pretty much all players that aren't fully established stars should play in the preseason in my opinion. In the case of the Jets, that means everyone, in the case of say Green Bay, I'm fine with guys like Rodgers and Jones sitting.
Looking forward, I'm not sure Zach Wilson being out, isn't good news for the fantasy values of Jets skill players. Smallish sample size, but guys like Elijah Moore and Michael Carter were both more productive when he was out a year ago.
Pretty much all players that aren't fully established stars should play in the preseason in my opinion. In the case of the Jets, that means everyone, in the case of say Green Bay, I'm fine with guys like Rodgers and Jones sitting.
Looking forward, I'm not sure Zach Wilson being out, isn't good news for the fantasy values of Jets skill players. Smallish sample size, but guys like Elijah Moore and Michael Carter were both more productive when he was out a year ago.
Deamon
Footballguy
Didn't Lance play too?
dipandglide
Footballguy
Hard disagree with your take. Guys are going to get hurt whether it’s in practice, preseason, or during the season. You could argue not getting guys out there at full speed increases their risk of injury. And as a fan I don’t want to see half *** football the first month because they’re getting used to playing for real. This stuff is part of football.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m just saying how it used to be, and how I feel about it. It’s a debate that’s gone on for years and will continue to go on for years.
I respect your take. My take is different.
I’d be surprised if we see any more meaningless play from significant starters the rest of this preseason at least.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He did. And throw a 78 or 76 yard TD, I still don’t want him out there.
Yep, so did Goff, Mariota, Watson, Lawrence, and D.Jones.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Like I said, since they shortened the preseason they started doing tbis.
Doesn’t mean I have to like it.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think you're misremembering here HSG. The trend of not playing starters as a norm is less than a decade old. And, iirc, three preseason games only started last year.
Starters, even marquee players, which Wilson is not, often play the first series of preseason games. Two series if the first is a dud. That was a norm long before switching to three preseason games, which incentives playing your starters.
It was a freak accident but it doesn't mean he shouldn't have been out there.
Jesse Morse, The Fantasy Doc, shows a 2nd video with a good view of the Knee buckling.
Last night, based on the video, he said the most likely scenario is an MCL sprain and back week 1, but strong possibility of partial or full ACL tear. Hopefully, it's not an ACL.
Last night, based on the video, he said the most likely scenario is an MCL sprain and back week 1, but strong possibility of partial or full ACL tear. Hopefully, it's not an ACL.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This is my recollection too, FWIW.
This really sucks for the Jets (if his injury turns out to be an ACL), but I don't think they did anything out of the norm here.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports Jets QB Zach Wilson suffered a bone bruise in Friday's preseason win over the Eagles.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ok, that’s weird. Sportsline has removed that blurb. 
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah - here’s why:
Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
All things considered, great news.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
By the time Wilson is ready he’ll be Wally Pipped by Joe Flacco who cements his Hall of Fame status with ring #2.
