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[ImTheScientist]

Vince Young owners: Please Read

If you are a Vince Young owner I would consider trying to grab Warner if at all possible (I understand he is not on every WW, you may want to trade for him)

My QBBC for the rest of the year! Young/Warner combo. Green means you start them, there are a few weeks that there is a toss up but get this combo if you can.

Vince Young (green - start)

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 1 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Houston Texans

8 Sunday, Oct. 28 - 1 pm Oakland Raiders

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm Carolina Panthers

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 1 pm Jacksonville Jaguars

11 Monday, Nov. 19 - 8 pm at Denver Broncos

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 1 pm Houston Texans

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 1 pm San Diego Chargers

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at Kansas City Chiefs

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm New York Jets

Kurt Warner (green - start)

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 4 pm Carolina Panthers

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Washington Redskins

8 BYE

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 4 pm Detroit Lions

11 Sunday, Nov. 18 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 4 pm San Francisco 49ers

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 4 pm Cleveland Browns

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 4 pm at Seattle Seahawks

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at New Orleans Saints

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm Atlanta Falcons

17 Sunday, Dec. 30 - 4 pm St. Louis Rams

Here is what you can look forward too:

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 4 pm Carolina Panthers ---------- Warner

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Houston Texans --------- Young

8 Sunday, Oct. 28 - 1 pm Oakland Raiders ----------- Young

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm Carolina Panthers ---------- Young

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 4 pm Detroit Lions ------------- Warner

11 Sunday, Nov. 18 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals ---- Warner

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals ---- Young

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 4 pm Cleveland Browns -------- Warner

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 1 pm San Diego Chargers ------ Young

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at New Orleans Saints --- Warner

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm Atlanta Falcons ---------- Warner or

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm New York Jets ------------ Young

17 Sunday, Dec. 30 - 4 pm St. Louis Rams ----------- Warner

Good luck and win your league

 

[MDSkinner]

Vince Young owners: Please Read

If you are a Vince Young owner I would consider trying to grab Warner if at all possible (I understand he is not on every WW, you may want to trade for him)

My QBBC for the rest of the year! Young/Warner combo. Green means you start them, there are a few weeks that there is a toss up but get this combo if you can.

Vince Young (green - start)

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 1 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Houston Texans

8 Sunday, Oct. 28 - 1 pm Oakland Raiders

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm Carolina Panthers

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 1 pm Jacksonville Jaguars

11 Monday, Nov. 19 - 8 pm at Denver Broncos

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 1 pm Houston Texans

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 1 pm San Diego Chargers

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at Kansas City Chiefs

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm New York Jets

Kurt Warner (green - start)

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 4 pm Carolina Panthers

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Washington Redskins

8 BYE

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 4 pm Detroit Lions

11 Sunday, Nov. 18 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 4 pm San Francisco 49ers

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 4 pm Cleveland Browns

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 4 pm at Seattle Seahawks

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at New Orleans Saints

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm Atlanta Falcons

17 Sunday, Dec. 30 - 4 pm St. Louis Rams

Here is what you can look forward too:

6 Sunday, Oct. 14 - 4 pm Carolina Panthers ---------- Warner

7 Sunday, Oct. 21 - 1 pm at Houston Texans --------- Young

8 Sunday, Oct. 28 - 1 pm Oakland Raiders ----------- Young

9 Sunday, Nov. 4 - 1 pm Carolina Panthers ---------- Young

10 Sunday, Nov. 11 - 4 pm Detroit Lions ------------- Warner

11 Sunday, Nov. 18 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals ---- Warner

12 Sunday, Nov. 25 - 1 pm at Cincinnati Bengals ---- Young

13 Sunday, Dec. 2 - 4 pm Cleveland Browns -------- Warner

14 Sunday, Dec. 9 - 1 pm San Diego Chargers ------ Young

15 Sunday, Dec. 16 - 1 pm at New Orleans Saints --- Warner

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm Atlanta Falcons ---------- Warner or

16 Sunday, Dec. 23 - 4 pm New York Jets ------------ Young

17 Sunday, Dec. 30 - 4 pm St. Louis Rams ----------- Warner

Good luck and win your league

I think that is a pretty good way to go about it right there.

 

[swirvenirvin]

well I had this combo until I just traded away Young, why didnt you post this yesterday

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Wow, pretty good analysis. You have me convinced.

 

[circelli17]

Wow, pretty good analysis. You have me convinced.

If you are convinced that both of these guys can stay healthy over their last 11 games I would agree. But the pessimist in me thinks that at least one (probably Warner) will end up missing significant time at some point

 

[Eagle Eye]

I think VY need to prove he's startable first.

 

[shakeybarn]

A little too much faith in Kurt Warner. If you were giving us rhetoric on VY and, say Phillip Rivers or Jay Cutler, or someone not prone to absolute meltdowns.

 

[sbonomo]

I think VY need to prove he's startable first.

I have both and i think that while Vince is a very good QB, his fantasy value is suspect right now. Cambell/farve/insert a mid tier qb have out played him so far this year....my $.02

 

[Brewzers]

I like it. I just wish I had either Young or Warner to capitalize.

 

[elcohiba]

Evans (check) Maroney (check) Leinert (check) Young (check) would have thought Portis next but Warner is a fresh start. Good luck Scientist.

 

[Bankerguy]

Scientist,

Not your biggest fan as you know. Best post I have ever seen from you.

I agree with the preious poster that VY still has to prove he is a starting FF QB on a regular basis. Last week was a perfect example.

Keep the quality coming Scientist.

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[Bankerguy]

I wasn't being sarcastic.

 

[Kurt Warner]

Your analysis is superb.

 

[Texican]

Your analysis is superb.

Does your wife know you are on here?

 

[Kurt Warner]

Your analysis is superb.

Does your wife know you are on here?

Does your mom know you are on here?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Your analysis is superb.

Does your wife know you are on here?

Does your mom know you are on here?

 

[Kurt Warner]

Your analysis is superb.

Does your wife know you are on here?

Does your mom know you are on here?

BUMP TTT

 

[ImTheScientist]

For the morning crew

 

[TxBuckeye]

I iwsh I had faith that VY is going to be worth strating ANY week. But I haven't seen anything except another tick in the LOSS column from him for me so far.

 

[mon]

I like your optimism and I'll be using your strategy, mostly because I don't have any other choice. Eh, I may adjust a little if I can find a place to fit in my third QB, Garrard.

 

[ImTheScientist]

So much for that plan As far as anything I say for this year I would do the opposite at this point. Im starting a lineup full of backup/waiver wire players due to injuries and even those players are getting injured.

 

[mon]

Now what?

 

[Wadsworth]

Now what?

Switch to the real championship QBBC combo. Big Ben/Derek Anderson. After this week of Big Ben vs Denver, there's not a tough match up through week 16.

 

[mon]

Now what?

Switch to the real championship QBBC combo. Big Ben/Derek Anderson. After this week of Big Ben vs Denver, there's not a tough match up through week 16.

With what's left, my only option is Garr/Hu-ard. Yeah, Garrhard has a nice ring to it.

 

[The Jerk]

So much for that plan As far as anything I say for this year I would do the opposite at this point. Im starting a lineup full of backup/waiver wire players due to injuries and even those players are getting injured.

Scientist, I still think it was a good call on your part. All you can do is look for advantages and choose the best options that you find. Your strategy could have led to a championship opportunity, but you're just snakebit.In the misery loves company category, I am in the same boat as you in one league, where I have had 10 of my 16 players injured for at least one game, with several missing multiple games. Of course, in that league I picked up Warner over Griese for a Week 6 spot start. My head is still sore from Sunday afternoon. In 1999, I won a championship by jumping on Jeff George before he was even named the starter in Minnesota. There were plenty of red flags, as he could very easily have never gotten the job or played his way out of the situation. I saw the Kurt Warner 2007 situation as much better than George in terms of job security, and I accepted injury risk. But getting hurt in a fumble scrum wasn't high on my list of injury expectation.Keep on fighting if you can. I managed to win my game despite a 0 for Warner thanks to Adrian Peterson and Matt Stover, but I failed to make up significant ground on the overall points leader and missed out on a weekly first place. But Week 6 is gone, so it doesn't help to look back except to perhaps learn from past decisions. And I don't see much of a learning opportunity here. I'm going to keep plugging away and hope that a few breaks come my way. This year, I'm certainly due.

 

[Ariakis]

I bet you can still get Rattay / Collins

 

[Eagle Eye]

So much for that plan As far as anything I say for this year I would do the opposite at this point. Im starting a lineup full of backup/waiver wire players due to injuries and even those players are getting injured.

Scientist, I still think it was a good call on your part. All you can do is look for advantages and choose the best options that you find. Your strategy could have led to a championship opportunity, but you're just snakebit.

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

 

[The Jerk]

So much for that plan As far as anything I say for this year I would do the opposite at this point. Im starting a lineup full of backup/waiver wire players due to injuries and even those players are getting injured.

Scientist, I still think it was a good call on your part. All you can do is look for advantages and choose the best options that you find. Your strategy could have led to a championship opportunity, but you're just snakebit.

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

There can be flaws in any strategy. If all of the top standalone QBs are taken, then this was the next best option as of 72 hours ago. Warner's injury history is well known, but his thumb was the most consistent problem, and it seemed to be better. As for Young, go ahead and reveal your post from last week predicting his injury.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

 

[The Jerk]

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

One more thing... as of last week's top 250, Young and Warner were ranked 7th and 12th in QBs. Like I said, outside of the top 5 standalone guys, what would be a better combo?Great job on the hindsight! I can do the same thing, too.

Green Bay Backs: Here is my little nugget of info for you. Washing ton allowed 12 catches to Miami RBs, Westbrook had 8, Derrick Ward had 6 too...so we need to hook into the GB Back that is likely to catch passes. Vernand Morency: He had 7 targets last week. Brandon Jackson had 15 his 1st 3 weeks, and DeShawn Wynn has been fairly limited. Now Morency did not practice on Thrursday, if he can’t go and Brandon Jackson is healthy, I look for Jackson to be the sneaky play based on the match up. The Skins are not going to get run all over so I expect GB to take to the air.

Nice find here for those who have to choose between Wynn and Morency/Jackson. I'm hearing Morency is good to go so I think he's the play instead of Jackson.

You don't see the flaws in this strategy? (4-11 rushing, 5-23 receiving) Good call!

 

[Steeler07]

To begin with, Vince Young was a horrible fantasy starter.

 

[Steeler07]

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

One more thing... as of last week's top 250, Young and Warner were ranked 7th and 12th in QBs. Like I said, outside of the top 5 standalone guys, what would be a better combo?Great job on the hindsight! I can do the same thing, too.

You don't need hindsight to know Vince Young is not a reliable fantasy QB. I wouldn't touch him even to fill a bye week.

 

[Eagle Eye]

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

One more thing... as of last week's top 250, Young and Warner were ranked 7th and 12th in QBs. Like I said, outside of the top 5 standalone guys, what would be a better combo?Great job on the hindsight! I can do the same thing, too.

Green Bay Backs: Here is my little nugget of info for you. Washing ton allowed 12 catches to Miami RBs, Westbrook had 8, Derrick Ward had 6 too...so we need to hook into the GB Back that is likely to catch passes. Vernand Morency: He had 7 targets last week. Brandon Jackson had 15 his 1st 3 weeks, and DeShawn Wynn has been fairly limited. Now Morency did not practice on Thrursday, if he can’t go and Brandon Jackson is healthy, I look for Jackson to be the sneaky play based on the match up. The Skins are not going to get run all over so I expect GB to take to the air.

Nice find here for those who have to choose between Wynn and Morency/Jackson. I'm hearing Morency is good to go so I think he's the play instead of Jackson.

You don't see the flaws in this strategy? (4-11 rushing, 5-23 receiving) Good call!

That's pretty funny. I'd still say Morency was the play over the INACTIVE Jackson.Anyway, I posted in this thread LAST WEEK that "Young needed to prove he's startable" before this strategy could get you mediocrity at the QB position...let alone a championship.If Young was the #7 QB in the top 250 I can't think of a worse indictment on that "resource."

 

[ImTheScientist]

You don't need hindsight to know Vince Young is not a reliable fantasy QB. I wouldn't touch him even to fill a bye week.

This is why you go QBBC with him.

 

[Steeler07]

You don't need hindsight to know Vince Young is not a reliable fantasy QB. I wouldn't touch him even to fill a bye week.

This is why you go QBBC with him.

Uhmmmm. wouldn't that require you to START him some weeks.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Well, this theory went straight down the tubes.

 

[OU#1]

Well, this theory went straight down the tubes.

In his defense you can't really predict injuries. Sure there are "injury-prone" players, but this is the NFL. Anybody can go down any given Sunday.Props to the OP for having a solid plan, and more props for taking the backfiring like a man. I believe he was the first to bump his post admitting this wasn't going to work out.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Well, this theory went straight down the tubes.

In his defense you can't really predict injuries. Sure there are "injury-prone" players, but this is the NFL. Anybody can go down any given Sunday.Props to the OP for having a solid plan, and more props for taking the backfiring like a man. I believe he was the first to bump his post admitting this wasn't going to work out.

Thanks.....I wish I could predict injuries. Warner believes he may only be out until after the bye....the plan may still be ok.

 

[The Jerk]

You really didn't see the flaws in this strategy?

One more thing... as of last week's top 250, Young and Warner were ranked 7th and 12th in QBs. Like I said, outside of the top 5 standalone guys, what would be a better combo?Great job on the hindsight! I can do the same thing, too.

Green Bay Backs: Here is my little nugget of info for you. Washing ton allowed 12 catches to Miami RBs, Westbrook had 8, Derrick Ward had 6 too...so we need to hook into the GB Back that is likely to catch passes. Vernand Morency: He had 7 targets last week. Brandon Jackson had 15 his 1st 3 weeks, and DeShawn Wynn has been fairly limited. Now Morency did not practice on Thrursday, if he can’t go and Brandon Jackson is healthy, I look for Jackson to be the sneaky play based on the match up. The Skins are not going to get run all over so I expect GB to take to the air.

Nice find here for those who have to choose between Wynn and Morency/Jackson. I'm hearing Morency is good to go so I think he's the play instead of Jackson.

You don't see the flaws in this strategy? (4-11 rushing, 5-23 receiving) Good call!

That's pretty funny. I'd still say Morency was the play over the INACTIVE Jackson.Anyway, I posted in this thread LAST WEEK that "Young needed to prove he's startable" before this strategy could get you mediocrity at the QB position...let alone a championship.If Young was the #7 QB in the top 250 I can't think of a worse indictment on that "resource."

You're the genius but I'd have preferred Wynn's 37 yards and a TD. How could you not see that coming? I mean, it's obvious Warner and Young would both get hurt and/or be ineffective, so surely you should KNOW who will score the TDs on the ground in Green Bay.

 

[The Jerk]

If Young was the #7 QB in the top 250 I can't think of a worse indictment on that "resource."

Now THAT is actually a pretty fair point. Those ratings have been very bad this year. I'm not going to blindly follow the advice of any person or site, free or subscription. However, when a veteran, respected, knowledgeable source ranks both QBs in the top 12, it should get some attention as a reasonable play to use the pair as a committee.