Question for Commishes of multiple leagues (1 Viewer)

[PantherPower]

Just curious if anyone here has ever had a guy own a few teams you commish, and notifies you mid-season he wants to quit one team AFTER this year, because "I joined too many leagues, and need to cut back." Would anyone have a problem with him keeping a loaded team in another league, but quitting his lesser team? While I hate that people join dynasty leagues and then quit a year or two later (stick to redrafts!) I know its his right to quit a league. I appreciate the heads up this early, but would I be wrong to find a new owner to take over both his teams? Just seems that if an owner can quit one team now, who's to say he won't quit another one a year later? Am I being too harsh for even thinking about this?

 

[AnonymousBob]

As long as he plays out the season in a competetive manner, I see nothing wrong with what he did. He's giving you ample time to find a replacement. See if you can find a guy now, then let the owner know he can step down sooner if he'd like.

 

[PantherPower]

He says he wants to finish this year. And he traded away his 1st round pick next year in a deal to get AP, but didn't pay the 50% the league rules require when you trade away a future pick. ( I went ahead and processed the trade because he has been a good owner in 2 leagues, and said he's send a check, but he never did) His logic is he wants to find a new owner to pay that 50% now. That seems a little to me personally...

 

[AnonymousBob]

He says he wants to finish this year. And he traded away his 1st round pick next year in a deal to get AP, but didn't pay the 50% the league rules require when you trade away a future pick. ( I went ahead and processed the trade because he has been a good owner in 2 leagues, and said he's send a check, but he never did) His logic is he wants to find a new owner to pay that 50% now. That seems a little to me personally...

I'd trade away the first pick for AP as well. 50% of what? Next year's dues?

 

[PantherPower]

yes, league rules require 50% of the next year's fees if you trade away your first rounder. And he traded away Benson, Olsen, and 1st rounder in 2008 to get AP. Great trade for his team without a doubt.

 

[AnonymousBob]

yes, league rules require 50% of the next year's fees if you trade away your first rounder. And he traded away Benson, Olsen, and 1st rounder in 2008 to get AP. Great trade for his team without a doubt.

Edit to state I can't read.

 

[PantherPower]

Bob the owner that quit has NOT paid the 50% like he should have. That is the issue...

 

[Kub]

I think you have to make him pay the 50% of next year's dues. Personally, you shouldn't have let that trade go through without the money in hand. If he refuses, I don't know how you make him pay it other than holding back winnings(if he gets any).

You may be forced to hold back the 50% from his winnings in the other league, which is sure to piss him off.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bob the owner that quit has NOT paid the 50% like he should have. That is the issue...

I understand that. However, most new owners coming into a league expect to pay the full dues. I really doubt it will be an issue if you just tell the new owner they owe x amount.

 

[PantherPower]

Well minimum, I'll withhold the 50% he owes from any earnings he has from either team until I know for sure I have a new owner willing to pay full price. That's not always so easy to do, as so many people say "I'd rather just draft my own team"

And I think there is an ethical issue too, for an owner to quit a dynasty league, moving his future picks since he knows he isn't returning, just to try and win now before he's gone. I just think that isn't right...

 

[AnonymousBob]

Well minimum, I'll withhold the 50% he owes from any earnings he has from either team until I know for sure I have a new owner willing to pay full price. That's not always so easy to do, as so many people say "I'd rather just draft my own team" And I think there is an ethical issue too, for an owner to quit a dynasty league, moving his future picks since he knows he isn't returning, just to try and win now before he's gone. I just think that isn't right...

Withold his earning until the new owner pays up. Once a new owner coughs up the dough, release whatever you held. He might ##### at you but if you have a thick skin it's easy enough.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

He says he wants to finish this year. And he traded away his 1st round pick next year in a deal to get AP, but didn't pay the 50% the league rules require when you trade away a future pick. ( I went ahead and processed the trade because he has been a good owner in 2 leagues, and said he's send a check, but he never did) His logic is he wants to find a new owner to pay that 50% now. That seems a little to me personally...

Bush league on his part, but you'll have no trouble getting somebody to take over his team next year if he has AD

 

[Kub]

Well minimum, I'll withhold the 50% he owes from any earnings he has from either team until I know for sure I have a new owner willing to pay full price. That's not always so easy to do, as so many people say "I'd rather just draft my own team" And I think there is an ethical issue too, for an owner to quit a dynasty league, moving his future picks since he knows he isn't returning, just to try and win now before he's gone. I just think that isn't right...

In this situation, if you let one owner out of the paying the 50% league fee, you might as well get rid of the rule. The WHOLE IDEA of the rule is to stop owners from gutting the future of the team to win now when they plan to leave the league. If you let this guy get away with it, why would anyone who doesn't plan on returning the following year ever pay this fee?My thought was you can make the new owner pay the full freight and roll the departing owners cash into the prize pool for the following year or use his money towards paying for the league website.

 

[PantherPower]

Again, I only processed the trade because he was in 2 leagues, and had been a good owner, plus he told me that his paypal wasn't working and would send a check. I trusted him. I guess that's a mistake on my part.

 

[Steve in Minneapolis]

Just curious if anyone here has ever had a guy own a few teams you commish, and notifies you mid-season he wants to quit one team AFTER this year, because "I joined too many leagues, and need to cut back." Would anyone have a problem with him keeping a loaded team in another league, but quitting his lesser team? While I hate that people join dynasty leagues and then quit a year or two later (stick to redrafts!) I know its his right to quit a league. I appreciate the heads up this early, but would I be wrong to find a new owner to take over both his teams? Just seems that if an owner can quit one team now, who's to say he won't quit another one a year later? Am I being too harsh for even thinking about this?

In short..yes...you are beeing WAAAAY too harsh. As a commissioner, how could you possibly ask any more from this guy? He has given you nearly a year's notice that he is exiting a league. That is a dream scenario...often times I have been given just a few weeks, or even DAYS notice. You have plenty of time to find a good GM to take over what sounds like is a good franchise.Just because people's priorities change, it doesn't mean that they are going to quit FF entirely. I used to be in more leagues, and am now in 'only' three (I am the commissioner in 2 of the three). It is incredibly presumptuous of you to say because he is giving you a year's notice about leaving one league that he is all of a sudden needing to be replaced in both of his leagues. His decision to keep his 'best team' is completely logical. If you are questioning his intentions of staying in football when he keeps his 'good team'...how suspicious would you be of this guy's desire to play FF if he actually kept the crappier of the two? I would say that you need to leave this guy alone...

 

[PantherPower]

As a commissioner, how could you possibly ask any more from this guy?

How about that he pay 50% of next year's fees (league rules) as he promised when I processed the trade for him? Or am I asking too much??

 

[Steve in Minneapolis]

As a commissioner, how could you possibly ask any more from this guy?

How about that he pay 50% of next year's fees (league rules) as he promised when I processed the trade for him? Or am I asking too much??

You didn't mention the payment in the original post... and I answered the question you asked: "Should I drop this guy in both leagues b/c he wants to quit one of them, or is that too harsh. "That answer is very simple: Yes...it is ridiculously harsh. Especially for a guy you have said is a 'good owner'You have a great rule in place around guys trading their first round pick. I commend you for havng the forsight to institute a rule like that. As the commish, it is incumbent upon you to make sure it is enforced. My idea: Pull AP off his team until he pays up.

 

[netnalp]

Seems reasonable that he pay the 50% and get reimbursed once a replacement owner is found. Since he is keeping the stronger team he'll still be incontact with you. Also by doing that the guy leaving is more likely to take the initiative to find a replacement owner sooner, rather than wait for others to find one at their convenience. With Peterson the team would have to be really bad to not find a home. And just be more strict about having cash in hand before processing trades.

 

[cash n carry]

This owner did not have to volunteer at this point that he was not coming back to the league, so that he did so is immaterial to your question. Be happy that he is giving you extra time to find a replacement. Or would you rather he dropped 1 day before your rookie draft.....or just did not show & leave you hanging?

In so far as the $$ he owes, he still owes it. If he is unpaid and has any $$ coming from other leagues you commish, deduct this transaction from his winnings. If he can sell his team and recoup his winnings, that is his business. If his winnings do not cover what he owes and you get a replacement, it looks like you are stuck. However, if you do not recoup your expenses, he should be dropped from any league you commish until he makes good on his debts.