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Question Regarding FA Pick Ups During Season (1 Viewer)

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Curious how your league does FA pick-ups during the season.

Do you have a waiver process?

Can you do FA pick-ups 24/7?

Do you have a day of the week and time when FA's can be picked up?

If you have a day of the week and time FA's can be picked up, what do you do if a FA is picked up too early (even one minute)?

This is an issue EVERY year for our league.

Thanks,

HH

 
Curious how your league does FA pick-ups during the season.

Do you have a waiver process?

Can you do FA pick-ups 24/7?

Do you have a day of the week and time when FA's can be picked up?

If you have a day of the week and time FA's can be picked up, what do you do if a FA is picked up too early (even one minute)?

This is an issue EVERY year for our league.

Thanks,

HH
Deadline: Thursday Night 9:00 P.M. (WED, 9PM if there is a Thurs Game)Lowest man in the standings gets first pick.

$3.00 per pick

Friday to Sunday, 1:00 PM Kickoff; first come first served.

 
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Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday. It is great.
We also use a blind bidding system from Monday to Wednesday at noon. You get 100 points for the season to place bids on players. Highest bid gets the player, ties I send out email for a re-bid. Myfantasyleague.com has a blind bidding setup you can use to administer the bids, etc. (Min bid is $3)From Wednesday - Sunday is then first come first serve, all pickups are $3 at that point.

It works out really well. Adds in auction style format a little bit. There is usually some overspending early on to get those early season sleepers that went undrafted. And gives everyone the same shot to get him.

If you run out fo points, you can make trades for more points for players or players + points to even out a trade.

 
Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday. It is great.
Blind bidding is OK is some situations, but should be avoided in a Dynasty League IMO as it turns the awarding of free agent pickups into a skill contest. The teams most adept at the blind bid process usually end up with the best players. I don't believe the top teams should have the opportunity to get the best available free agents in a Dynasty format. as it eliminates one of few ways the poorer teams can improve themselves. From my experience quite often the end result of blind bidding is that the rich get richer.

 
Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday.  It is great.
Blind bidding is OK is some situations, but should be avoided in a Dynasty League IMO as it turns the awarding of free agent pickups into a skill contest. The teams most adept at the blind bid process usually end up with the best players. I don't believe the top teams should have the opportunity to get the best available free agents in a Dynasty format. as it eliminates one of few ways the poorer teams can improve themselves. From my experience quite often the end result of blind bidding is that the rich get richer.
So you rather it be a "luck" contest? The skill of recognizing players with talent and opportunites is one of the reasons many people I know play dynasty.
 
Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday.  It is great.
Blind bidding is OK is some situations, but should be avoided in a Dynasty League IMO as it turns the awarding of free agent pickups into a skill contest.
well, we certainly can't have any of that. :loco:

 
Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday.  It is great.
Blind bidding is OK is some situations, but should be avoided in a Dynasty League IMO as it turns the awarding of free agent pickups into a skill contest. The teams most adept at the blind bid process usually end up with the best players. I don't believe the top teams should have the opportunity to get the best available free agents in a Dynasty format. as it eliminates one of few ways the poorer teams can improve themselves. From my experience quite often the end result of blind bidding is that the rich get richer.
So you rather it be a "luck" contest? The skill of recognizing players with talent and opportunites is one of the reasons many people I know play dynasty.
I don't consider a it "luck" contest if the team with the worst record gets first shot at the free agent pool - I consider it a "fair" contest. A waiver wire based on the "worst to first" record is one of the few ways the bottom dwellers of a Dynasty League can improve their teams (outside of the rookie draft and trades). I simply don't think it is right for a 6-0 team to get the best available free agent over an 0-6 team - the top teams have already demonstrated their skill with their winning record, no sense in rewarding them a second time for this. The waiver wire IMO should be structured so that it helps those owners who are not as skilled as the sharks.

 
Blind bidding until wednesday at 9:00 pm, then everyone is free until sunday.  It is great.
Blind bidding is OK is some situations, but should be avoided in a Dynasty League IMO as it turns the awarding of free agent pickups into a skill contest. The teams most adept at the blind bid process usually end up with the best players. I don't believe the top teams should have the opportunity to get the best available free agents in a Dynasty format. as it eliminates one of few ways the poorer teams can improve themselves. From my experience quite often the end result of blind bidding is that the rich get richer.
So you rather it be a "luck" contest? The skill of recognizing players with talent and opportunites is one of the reasons many people I know play dynasty.
I don't consider a it "luck" contest if the team with the worst record gets first shot at the free agent pool - I consider it a "fair" contest. A waiver wire based on the "worst to first" record is one of the few ways the bottom dwellers of a Dynasty League can improve their teams (outside of the rookie draft and trades). I simply don't think it is right for a 6-0 team to get the best available free agent over an 0-6 team - the top teams have already demonstrated their skill with their winning record, no sense in rewarding them a second time for this. The waiver wire IMO should be structured so that it helps those owners who are not as skilled as the sharks.
In most of the dynasty leagues I play in the botton teams are there because they make poor decisions. Also, most of the time the waiver wire is pretty much picked clean and outside of someone who is an injury fill-in there are not many quality obvious players available on a given week. Even with the first priotity slot, the bottom feeder often will still make the bad choice. In terms of fairness, what about the 3-3 team who has just gotten slapped around by injury. Under your system, he will stuck all year picking 6th. He may have lost his last game because the starting QB went out in the first quarter. Now, only becasue his name is 7th on the list he has no chance to pick up the only decent QB on the waiver wire. that's not Fair in my book, nor is the general concept of punishing an owner for managing his team better. The bad owner will be "rewarded" with a better rookie draft position. Finally, worst to first gives owners so inclinded another reason for tanking games.

 
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Redraft. We have waivers on every even number week of the season. 1 waiver per team, unless you trade for an additional one. Each team has $100 to spend in any way they see fit to acquire their waivers.

Once your $100 is gone you are through unless you trade for more waiver dollars.

This really puts a premium on making the right moves.

Edit to say that waivers are due on Wednesday at midnight.

 
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I'm not going to stain the pool with my political views, but I'm not a big proponent of welfare programs, and worst-to-first Free Agency/Waiver Wire systems are a pretty close facsimile to that, IMO...

squistion, no offense, but this cracked me up:

"The waiver wire IMO should be structured so that it helps those owners who are not as skilled as the sharks."

:strugglestokeeppoliticstohimself:

I hate the term 'shark', but since you used it...sharks swim in the ocean. Guppies swim in a pond. Almost any League that has a mixture of the two has the potential to be thrown out of balance by the actions of members of one species or the other, via predatory instinct or blissful ignorance.

On the other hand, I acknowledge that in order to get better at anything, it's essential you compete vs your betters, rather than your peers. After all, "if you want to be the man, you've got to beat the man!" So, you're always going to have an upstart guppy or two wanting to see if he can breathe in the salt water, and that's all well and good...but if they're going to learn anything, they're going to have to work hard, learn the hard way, and take their beatings like men, and become better for it.

"Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime."

Worst to first, in my opinion, is nothing more than a free handout, and when I'm competing for money, it just doesn't sit well with me.

If you absolutely MUST do 'worst to first' waiver wire/free agency, at least balance it out by not having waivers until more than a few weeks have passed, to start letting the teams find their level. W/L sample size is way too small to determine who's really 'worst' early in the season.

Why not try this: Make your initial draft a minimum of 20 rounds...this is to ensure teams have enough players to have both depth to withstand early injuries and the ability to make it through at least the first bye weeks without having to make any moves out of necessity. This year, the NFL schedule is set up with 4-team bye weeks beginning in Week 3. Weeks 6 and 7 are 6-team bye weeks - that's going to stretch everyone thin, injuries or not. Start your 'worst to first' waiver wire after you tally the Week 5 results.

Most folks play a 13-14 Week Season. By week 5, you've got a pretty clear view of who's headed where, and due to the expanded bye weeks, a reasonable excuse to invoke the waiver wire for everyone...

Now, blind bidding, while in my opinion a far superior option than 'worst to first', still has it's flaws - it's a solid system for allocating players in 'shark' Leagues that doesn't play favorites, but savvy owners can still manipulate the system with creative bidding. Not everyone wants to do that much work, I guess...

I've run a high stakes local League ($550 per) for over 10 years, and my 'old salty veteran' owners are a good example of this; they will have nothing to do with blind bidding, as it creates too much work for them. They are, however, sick of worst to first, even starting later in the season, so I'm going a completely different route this year, modeled after one of the National High Stakes Leagues a buddy of mine is contemplating joining:

Waivers can only be invoked where injury or bye weeks compromise a team's ability to field a "competitive" starting lineup.

In the case of injury, you may drop any player you choose, as long as it doesn't create a situation that might force you to use the waiver wire down the road as a result. For example, if you have 2 QB, you cannot drop one if the one you keep has an upcoming bye week that will put you in a position to have to use the WW to field a starting lineup in future weeks. You must draft a player that can be used as a replacement for the injured player. The replacement doesn't HAVE to be used, he just has to fit the criteria.

We play a 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1 with 2 flex (QB, RB, WR, TE), so this means you can't pick up a hot PK or D/ST if you're replacing an injured RB, for example.

In the case of waiver wire, you may drop any player with the bye week you are addressing, and your pickup must either be in the position compromised by the bye week, or one that allows you to field a complete starting lineup.

As my League is a 'high stakes' League, trading is very restricted as well, but that's not the subject of this thread.

I'm still fleshing this out, so if anyone has any input, please feel free to offer suggestions, comments, etc...

 
Thanks for all the input. Here's what our league has done in the past and I'm getting ideas because I may change ours.

The league is run by CBS Sportsline. We can start picking up players Tuesday night at 7PM and up until 5 mins before the first kickoff. If an owner picks up a player even at 6:59 PM, the commish puts that player back in the FA pool and is not available until the next night. If again an owner picks the player up too early, the player is put back in the FA pool by the commish and will be available the next night.

It's kind of a pain because people are obviously trying to pick up the player and is trying to be the first one to get him, but then ends up making the transaction too early.

Can you please explaing "blind bidding?" I want to make sure I have an understanding before I make a suggestion to the league.

When you do the blind bidding, what time on say Thursday is the free for all? Is there a start time?

Thanks again.

Tim (HH)

 
My Dynasty league allows one FA pickup a week. The order is step by the last weeks win - losses. The losing teams pick first, lowest score to highest score, then the winners, lowest score to highest score. This is processed tuesday night. After that, if you have not picked, it is first come first serve.

My redraft and keeper leagues are first come first serve...

 
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