Queston about Collusion(not sure if that is appropriate description) (1 Viewer)

[Ron_jeur]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

 

[chinawildman]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

 

[pantagrapher]

Wow. Post-trade veto collusion. That's a new one, at least to me.

 

[UnderDawgs]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

How do you know this?

 

[Ron_jeur]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

We have a FB group, a couple of people that were contacted by the individual posted it yesterday.

 

[Ron_jeur]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

We have a FB group, a couple of people that were contacted by the individual posted it yesterday.

Afterwards, he admitted as much and basically called me a P*ssy for #####ing about it

 

[loose circuits]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

 

[Ron_jeur]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

Really tempted to....but I also feel an obligation to participate.I don't want to screw some of the legitimate players over

 

[Reepicheep]

He's probably more pissed he didn't pick up Demarco Murray than anything. Anyways, yeah, that is totally jacked up and I would not play in the league again.

And going forward, my advice is that in any league where there is a veto period, review period, whatever, never do a trade that will not be completed before the next weeks games start. Just a recipe for disaster.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

In my one league that has voting (though has never used it for actual veto) there is a rule that one of the teams in the trade can't vote to veto. That's called 'buyers remorse'. I would openly object and call them out on the collusion cuz that is horse####. especially if it occurred clandestinely, and apparently AFTER games had been played. You absolutely can't do a veto AFTER players have already played who are involved in the trade.

 

[VaTerp]

Yet another example of why voting on trades is absolutely TERRIBLE idea!

 

[Reepicheep]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

Really tempted to....but I also feel an obligation to participate.I don't want to screw some of the legitimate players over

I would start aggresively making trade favorable offers to every player in the league that didn't collude against you. Or perhaps each week play your weakest possible lineup against players that didn't collude against you.

 

[T J]

If your question is whether or not his actions constitute collusion, yes, that is definitely collusion.

 

[VaTerp]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

Really tempted to....but I also feel an obligation to participate.I don't want to screw some of the legitimate players over

I would start aggresively making trade favorable offers to every player in the league that didn't collude against you. Or perhaps each week play your weakest possible lineup against players that didn't collude against you.

Or just play out the season honestly and never again play in leagues with no prize money and the STUPID STUPID STUPID trade voting procedure.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

We have a FB group, a couple of people that were contacted by the individual posted it yesterday.

Afterwards, he admitted as much and basically called me a P*ssy for #####ing about it

Called you a #####? I'd be pissed at a guy for 'thinking about it for 48 hours and not doing the deal" much less having post game buyers remorse and resorting to shady moves inside of a horribly designed yahoo stock rule if it allows post game trades to be vetoed. I'd actually contact yahoo and see if thy can override if they don'tdo so willingly. Either way the moral high ground vis a vis being a @#ssy is squarely in your corner. I'd flail away at him (or just send him this thread)

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

Really tempted to....but I also feel an obligation to participate.I don't want to screw some of the legitimate players over

If this is a random league, and there is a 'voting bloc' of brick and mortar friends group who collectively can veto any trade I'd contact yahoo about it. Cuz that is collusive and cheating by definition. I would imagine yahoo has some ability to do something about that.But I would absolutely just rail on the dude (his buddies might just be acting with their own self interest but for him to get remorse and then try to veto the trade, especially postgame, but even absent that. is fuvking weak and laughable. I would be constantly degrading his manhood with that. What a ####### #####.

 

[R Dizzle]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

We have a FB group, a couple of people that were contacted by the individual posted it yesterday.

Afterwards, he admitted as much and basically called me a P*ssy for #####ing about it

Called you a #####? I'd be pissed at a guy for 'thinking about it for 48 hours and not doing the deal" much less having post game buyers remorse and resorting to shady moves inside of a horribly designed yahoo stock rule if it allows post game trades to be vetoed. I'd actually contact yahoo and see if thy can override if they don'tdo so willingly. Either way the moral high ground vis a vis being a @#ssy is squarely in your corner. I'd flail away at him (or just send him this thread)

This. The guy needs to re-evaluate who is the p#ssy.

 

[UnderDawgs]

Send him a link to this page. We'll straighten him out. lol

 

[sspunisher]

Just learn how to play and cut ties with leagues like this, the drama is not worth it, especially if you consider some of these guys friends. It's obvious these guys are immature, and you'll start resenting these people and viewing them as cheaters and untrustworthy snakes. Definitely not worth it over a game, find other people to play fantasy with.

 

[Joe Summer]

It's not technically "collusion", but it's still a classless move. But since you're the minority in the league, I would just keep quiet and then quit the league for next year.

Don't cut all your players, though. That would make you a bigger d-bag than him.

(However, I wouldn't be averse to making a couple trades with his top rivals.......)

 

[footballnerd]

don't cut your players. you can do two things, win the league and then don't come back or set your line ups and never come back.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

This past friday, I made a trade with a much more experienced participant.

I got Fred Davis and Jabbar Gaffney for Felix Jones.(it ended up being a great deal for me) last friday.

I, also, had picked up demarco murray on WW

he made this trade with all of the required knowledge. He knew felix was injured and out 2-4 weeks. He knew Cooley was out...(i guess he was trying to buy low)

We both agree to trade and it gets placed in a waiting period

On Yahoo, there is a 48 hour window to veto trades (one third of the participants required to veto trade....14 team league)

sunday night, he realized that the trade was very one sided against him....So he calls up his buddies( I wasn't one of them) and they collectively veto trade.

I woke up monday morning to find trade had been vetoed

this is not a money league....It is a league of family and friends....Although related, I am a bit of an outsider.

I have made it very clear, I will not play in this league again.

any ways, my question is:

Were his actions considered cheating/collusion?

What steps can be taken against him?(I lost out on another possible trade because i ended up making this deal)

Subsequently, the league commissioner has changed the veto system...to a third party independent thing on yahoo but says i have no recourse

Thoughts

If you know this to be true, then yes that should be considered collusion.

We have a FB group, a couple of people that were contacted by the individual posted it yesterday.

Afterwards, he admitted as much and basically called me a P*ssy for #####ing about it

IMHO, he's the one being a #####

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am new at fantasy but have done ok

Are you enjoying the fantasy thing; if so, redouble your efforts and do your best. Use the situation you just experienced to learn a lesson. You have Murray and F. Jones, trade them to his competitor and really shove it up his ###. In all seriousness though, really try to do your best, learn what you can this year, and make the jump to another league; don't let these jerks ruin what should be fun for you - and by fun I would make sure I ruined his season. Playing in a league that has post-dated vetoes is strange; playing in free leagues, IMO, lends itself to these sort of shenanigans.

 

[Cawbird]

Send this over to Miller Lite and see if they will portray this clown for the next "man card" violation commercial. I think this would definitely qualify as he called his buddies to cry and get them to vote against the trade.

 

[doeseatplace]

i'd cut all my players and find other things to do

Really tempted to....but I also feel an obligation to participate.I don't want to screw some of the legitimate players over

I would start aggresively making trade favorable offers to every player in the league that didn't collude against you. Or perhaps each week play your weakest possible lineup against players that didn't collude against you.

This conduct is reprehensible...I LOVE IT