Quick Thought on Non-snaking draft (1 Viewer)

[H Jass]

Have been in a work league for a few years now with decent success. Has been fine and all but this year the commissioner is heavily leaning toward instituting a non-snaking format for the draft. Obviously I think this is a bit unfair to teams who did well last year, one of which happens to be me.

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.), which I think is patently dumb since we don't start out with a huge pool of players from last year (only 1 player keeper league). He said "tell you what I'll put it to a vote". Blah, of course people who blew last year will want it. Since I would be drafting last nearly every round should I bail if it goes to this? Seems a pretty huge disadvantage to start out the year with...

Any thoughts??

 

[Jaysus]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

 

[valhallan]

Your commissioner is obviously a jack###, so I say bail.

 

[H Jass]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

Very true... Just irked by the dumb logic here. If I win, I can hang my hat on that this year, if not I can always

 

[The Commish]

We did snaking draft for about 4 years, then switched to standard drafts and have been doing them for about 4 years now as well. The same guys have been in the league all this time and the same owners win on a consistent basis. You can argue that there is some sort of disadvantage, but I don't believe it. I surely don't think it's something you should become a quitter over.

 

[wannabee]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

Tell him you are cool with it as long as you get 1.01. If he think it is such a great way to do things, he can have 1.10

 

[The Commish]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

Tell him you are cool with it as long as you get 1.01. If he think it is such a great way to do things, he can have 1.10

I must say though, if they are going to just change the draft order, the starting order should be choosen completely at random, or make it take affect a year later. Just to up and change it and keep things as is when it comes to determining the order sucks.

 

[H Jass]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

Tell him you are cool with it as long as you get 1.01. If he think it is such a great way to do things, he can have 1.10

I must say though, if they are going to just change the draft order, the starting order should be choosen completely at random, or make it take affect a year later. Just to up and change it and keep things as is when it comes to determining the order sucks.

Thanks, this sounds like a good point and I will suggest this. It is a work league so I don't want to be "that guy" who whines about it, but at the same time there is money involved so I don't think its fair to be at a decent disadvantage early on.Thanks for the thoughts...

 

[GregR_2]

I'd suggest that you go find whatever articles in which people looked at this in a thorough manner and determined the value of picks and found that NFL-style is very unfair to the late round drafters, that even serpentine is also unfair to late round drafters (but much less so than NFL-style), and that double-serpentine (which takes things a step further to help the late round drafters) is actually the fairest system.

Then ask why if it's already biased against the late drafters, the league needs to make it even more biased against them.

Also emphasize what you've already said, that in the NFL draft it is forming about 15% of their roster, not forming 95% of it as in a fantasy draft.

 

[The Commish]

His argument is that is how it is done in real drafts in the real world (NFL, NBA, etc.),

it's called "Fantasy" football for a reason... it's not the "real world"That said, don't bail... it's just the office league. Beat 'em, then brag how you did it with a crappy draft position.

Tell him you are cool with it as long as you get 1.01. If he think it is such a great way to do things, he can have 1.10

I must say though, if they are going to just change the draft order, the starting order should be choosen completely at random, or make it take affect a year later. Just to up and change it and keep things as is when it comes to determining the order sucks.

Thanks, this sounds like a good point and I will suggest this. It is a work league so I don't want to be "that guy" who whines about it, but at the same time there is money involved so I don't think its fair to be at a decent disadvantage early on.Thanks for the thoughts...

IMO, if he is going to change the draft method, the order needs to be completely random for the upcoming year. Just makes good sense!! :thumbuup:

 

[Dreamer]

Go auction.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Bail

 

[Chase Stuart]

FWIW, I think a strong case can be made that having LJ and the 12th pick in every round (in a one player keeper league) is better than having any of the 6th-12th picks in a regular serpentine. Mike Zangrilli did a study a few years back showing that draft order is largely irrelevant outside of the first round. So the guy selected at 3.01 is probably not likely to score any more points than the guy selected at 3.12. In the first round it makes a big difference, but hey, you'd have LJ.

 

[H Jass]

FWIW, I think a strong case can be made that having LJ and the 12th pick in every round (in a one player keeper league) is better than having any of the 6th-12th picks in a regular serpentine. Mike Zangrilli did a study a few years back showing that draft order is largely irrelevant outside of the first round. So the guy selected at 3.01 is probably not likely to score any more points than the guy selected at 3.12. In the first round it makes a big difference, but hey, you'd have LJ.

Hmmm... now that's pretty interesting because I would have Shawn Alexander (my keeper) and the second to last pick every round in this draft. Thanks...