Quinton Ganther To Start For The Skins ! (1 Viewer)

[just_want_2_win]

Did Zorn actually announce that Cartwright would resume KR duties or was that just speculation? I would like to know because this would bring down Devin Thomas' value in leagues that give value to return yardage.

Sounds like speculation to me.

"Rock's going to play," Zorn said. "We'll decide, at some point, what's going to happen and what the rotation is going to be. But [Ganther] will take the first snap."

But Cartwright today said coaches informed him Ganther would be the first back in their committee approach for Sunday's game against the Oakland Raiders at Oakland.

Since he's no longer starting at running back, Cartwright hopes to reclaim his position as the No. 1 kickoff returner.

LinkJust FYI, the Redskin front office (Snyder, Cerrato) has never liked Cartwright.

From CBS Sportsline:Quinton Ganther, RB WAS

News: Earlier Wednesday it was reported that Redskins RB Rock Cartwright said that Quinton Ganther would start at Oakland in Week 14, signaling the fourth starting running back for the Redskins this season. While head coach Jim Zorn admitted that Ganther would indeed start, it wasn't a guarantee of playing time. "Rock's going to play," Zorn said of Cartwright. "We'll decide, at some point, what's going to happen and what the rotation is going to be. But [Ganther] will take the first snap." Zorn said earlier in the week that RB Marcus Mason would also be involved, though it's expected that he won't see more than five touches.

Analysis: Ganther had been productive in limited touches while Cartwright struggled in his role as the primary ball carrier. Expect whoever runs best against the Raiders to have an edge in playing time going forward. Both are no better than No. 3 or low-end flex choices in spite of their awesome matchup at Oakland in Week 14.

 

[finnmaccoul]

Bleep. I had Rock starting. Now I gotta have 2 Skins RB's on roster? Meh.

I dropped Cartwright for ganther....no need to keep them both IMHO.

Ditto for me.

 

[GoNads]

Pleae excuse my highly arrogant ignorance but...why is everyone in a hurry to pick him up? I see people posting "Thank God I picked him up last night"...why?I guess what I'm saying is we are looking at the 4th string RB here...do we see Chris Johnson potential here down the stretch...Ryan Grant...Kevin Smith??? If its dyansty, OK, but do you really believe he is the new starter or the future for Washington? I would not want to have to start this guy in the playoffs. Again, I'm sorry to be the wet rag but is this what we want to pin our hopes to? I think owners that start someone like this over guys that have been steady most of the year are just overthinking it and asking for trouble. Sorry to get in your alls way, please resume your kumbaya circle.

Fellas are just hurting due to injuries. Finding a fill-in is a ##### right now.

I get it but the above poster who is saying guys that had Portis/Betts...the Skins have not carried anyone into the playoffs. Hard for me to believe in a local redraft league that guys are still in it if they hitched their wagons to the Skins backfield. Again, I'm an arrogant SOB so I'm probably totally wrong. I'm hurtin at RB2 right now with Turner gimpy, but I think this could be a mistake. RB with very little experience on the road...I hope it works for those that take him though. They can bump this thread and use me as an Ipinata after.Go Ganther!!!

I feel you. I picked him up and put him in as a flex over Donnie friggin' Avery. Never recovered from Ronnie B's foot. Worth the dice roll.

Same here. Didn't quite recover from Brown's foot. My immediate moves were to pick up as many of these long shot RBs as I could looking for that elusive surprise stud that emerges at the end of just about every year. I added Jerome Harrison and Chris Jennings last week when news of Lewis broke, and Moats today when news of Slaton to IR broke. Had Cartwright and dropped him today for Ganther. Not saying he (or any of the others) are the saviors just yet, but anyway...

 

[Day Drinker]

Guess where he was born?

OAKTOWN BABY!!! just sayin'

 

[damageinc]

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_...=fantasy,207729

Quinton Ganther to start at RB for Washington vs. Oakland By Andy Behrens

Within the headline above, you'll find all the fantasy advice you need regarding Quinton Ganther(notes). He'll reportedly start for Washington in Week 14 ahead of Rock Cartwright(notes), and he's facing Oakland, one of the NFL's worst run defenses. The Raiders have allowed 158.7 rushing yards per game and the third-most fantasy points to opposing running backs. They're as user-friendly as it gets. This is an outstanding matchup for Ganther. He's outperformed Cartwright decisively over the past two weeks, gaining 6.0 yards per carry to Rock's 2.75.

Not surprisingly, Cartwright isn't too pleased by the news (although he also sounds like a guy who can't believe he was ever a starter):

“I’m a little disappointed, but what can I do about it?” Cartwright said. “I’m not going to lose no sleep over it. I’ve still got a job.”

Ganther has been signed, released and re-signed by the Redskins during this season. The second-year back from Utah ran 13 times for 78 yards - a 6-yard average - while backing up Cartwright the last two games.

“I’m getting the opportunity that I haven’t had to show people what I can do,” Ganther said. “I just worked harder than anybody. The longer you keep you feet in the door, the better opportunity you have.”

Earlier in the week, Washington head coach Jim Zorn used the word "committee" to describe his backfield situation, so let's not assume Ganther will get 25 carries. He's a necessary short-term pickup nonetheless.

Go add Ganther, now.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Guess where he was born?OAKTOWN BABY!!! just sayin'

Good info here

 

[just_want_2_win]

I have a bevy of middling RBs to satrt in my flex position. It sound like people are high on Ganther, but would you start him over the following?Justin Fargas vs. WASRyan Moats vs. SEASammy Morris vs. CARKevin Faulk vs. CAR

The only one I'd consider is Fargas due to his consistency. Moats might have a good day but he is behind Brown now. I have been thinking abou tpulling the trigger on Morris since he is on the wire but not ready to drop anyone else to get him.

Not to pull this thread off course, but just read this regarding the Raiders:Raiders LG Robert Gallery is out indefinitely after getting a second opinion on the back he injured in Week 13.Gallery allegedly experienced numbness in his legs after the injury. "At this point, it does not look good," coach Tom Cable admitted Wednesday. Gallery is the Raiders' best interior lineman, so his absence will likely hurt Oakland's running game. Avoid Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden in Week 14.Source: Oakland Tribune All in all, crazy time for RBs.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

He's come a long way since his Jedi academy days.

 

[Bolted]

I watched him in a couple pre season games with the Titans a couple years back. He was explosive. I remember one game where in a half he went for like 150 yards and 2 TD's. Sure it was preseason against guys not making the team, but man he was impressive.

 

[Bolted]

Okay, I just looked it up. It was last year, and only 115 yards. But still he didn't get his first touch until the second half, and did have 2 TD's.

I just remember watching him thinking "OMG he is good". Then I think he hurt himself so they went with Chris Henry to try and breath more life in that second round pick.

 

[damageinc]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/306551-...eek-for-week-14

Quinton Ganther: Fantasy Sleeper Pick of the Week for Week 14?

The Washington Redskins have announced that Quinton Ganther has taken over the starting running back duties for the team, and for those of you looking to supplement your team at the position, Ganther is a huge sleeper pick for this week.

The Redskins face an Oakland Raider team that basically invites teams to run against them giving up an average of 158 plus yards a game, while the Redskins are hovering just over 100 yards a game on the ground.

But what’s significant about Ganther’s value isn’t just the appalling run defense of the Raiders, rather the passing defense of both teams.

The Raiders have an uncanny ability to shut down the long ball, and considering the Redskins aren’t exactly setting the world on fire with their passing game, Zorn and company could look to play a game of ball control.

The Redskins are no slouches at passing defense either.

The Redskins are ranked fifth overall against the pass, and if you put both team’s aptitude to control the passing attack together, you have yourself a situation that is prime for the ground game to take center stage.

Ganther didn’t just win a starting role; he earned it outright by simply outplaying Rock Cartwright. The team’s coaching staff is very high on Ganther’s talents—something that leaves a very high ceiling for possible Fantasy points.

For most of you, the playoffs start this week; the remainder of you are in your final week of regular season competition, so adding a sleeper pick with a huge upside could be that difference maker you have been looking for.

Ganther could be that player.

 

[goldenchild]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/306551-...eek-for-week-14

Quinton Ganther: Fantasy Sleeper Pick of the Week for Week 14?

The Washington Redskins have announced that Quinton Ganther has taken over the starting running back duties for the team, and for those of you looking to supplement your team at the position, Ganther is a huge sleeper pick for this week.

The Redskins face an Oakland Raider team that basically invites teams to run against them giving up an average of 158 plus yards a game, while the Redskins are hovering just over 100 yards a game on the ground.

But what’s significant about Ganther’s value isn’t just the appalling run defense of the Raiders, rather the passing defense of both teams.

The Raiders have an uncanny ability to shut down the long ball, and considering the Redskins aren’t exactly setting the world on fire with their passing game, Zorn and company could look to play a game of ball control.

The Redskins are no slouches at passing defense either.

The Redskins are ranked fifth overall against the pass, and if you put both team’s aptitude to control the passing attack together, you have yourself a situation that is prime for the ground game to take center stage.

Ganther didn’t just win a starting role; he earned it outright by simply outplaying Rock Cartwright. The team’s coaching staff is very high on Ganther’s talents—something that leaves a very high ceiling for possible Fantasy points.

For most of you, the playoffs start this week; the remainder of you are in your final week of regular season competition, so adding a sleeper pick with a huge upside could be that difference maker you have been looking for.

Ganther could be that player.

I think reading that is enough for me to roll GAnther out for this week, but then MFL.com just came out with this 4 hours ago:

(KFFL) Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Quinton Ganther is expected to get about half of the carries in Week 14 with RBs Rock Cartwright and Marcus Mason also getting carries. Mason may be the runner to receive the goal line carries.

Thoughts?Seeing the words "half of the carries" plus the other tidbit about Mason getting the goal line looks doesn't scare anyone?

 

[RushHour]

I look forward to feeling sick when this guy explodes on my bench and I have Mendenhall's crappy game locked in.

 

[damageinc]

There is absolutley the chance that he gets "half the carries" . But Zorn has shown that he is basically a one back guy until Rock. He gave most of the carries to Portis ( even after saying Betts will get the ball ) , he gave most of the carries to Betts after Portis went down. After Betts went down he started with Rock getting most of the carries but he just flat put stank.If Quinton is playing well expect alot of carries. If he is having a 3.0 ypc after he first 8 carries and looks like he cant break a tackle then you will see a rotation.

Its always a risk. Ask Jerome Harrison owners about that.

ALl I can add is that it really depends on who you have. I look at my situation. I have Quinton , Wells , Hightower. K Smith and Mcfadden. I will pick one of the ARZ backs on Monday ( Hightower) and then throw mcfadden out of the equation. and it comes down to Smith vs Quinton. I think Smith has been a minor bust this year and plays one of the top 3 run defenses. so I will roll with Quinton. Hope for the best.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Where do others put his relative value? (He's about worth who?)

dodds has him ranked 30 this week and Bloom 25 ( both ahead of norwood btw)

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I have a bevy of middling RBs to satrt in my flex position. It sound like people are high on Ganther, but would you start him over the following?Justin Fargas vs. WASRyan Moats vs. SEASammy Morris vs. CARKevin Faulk vs. CAR

easily

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Pleae excuse my highly arrogant ignorance but...why is everyone in a hurry to pick him up? I see people posting "Thank God I picked him up last night"...why?I guess what I'm saying is we are looking at the 4th string RB here...do we see Chris Johnson potential here down the stretch...Ryan Grant...Kevin Smith??? If its dyansty, OK, but do you really believe he is the new starter or the future for Washington? I would not want to have to start this guy in the playoffs. Again, I'm sorry to be the wet rag but is this what we want to pin our hopes to? I think owners that start someone like this over guys that have been steady most of the year are just overthinking it and asking for trouble. Sorry to get in your alls way, please resume your kumbaya circle.

So you haven't watched many Raiders games huh? Plus the WAS O has been clicking lately.

 

[howo5]

I can't decide between Ganther and Hightower/Wells. i think I'm going to go with Ganther because Beanie and Tim will most definitely be splitting carries.

 

[pmccurry]

Considering him over Forte, Fargas, Jon Stewart and its a .5 ppr. I suck at runningback. Must-win. *gulp*

 

[goldenchild]

There is absolutley the chance that he gets "half the carries" . But Zorn has shown that he is basically a one back guy until Rock. He gave most of the carries to Portis ( even after saying Betts will get the ball ) , he gave most of the carries to Betts after Portis went down. After Betts went down he started with Rock getting most of the carries but he just flat put stank.If Quinton is playing well expect alot of carries. If he is having a 3.0 ypc after he first 8 carries and looks like he cant break a tackle then you will see a rotation.

Its always a risk. Ask Jerome Harrison owners about that.

ALl I can add is that it really depends on who you have. I look at my situation. I have Quinton , Wells , Hightower. K Smith and Mcfadden. I will pick one of the ARZ backs on Monday ( Hightower) and then throw mcfadden out of the equation. and it comes down to Smith vs Quinton. I think Smith has been a minor bust this year and plays one of the top 3 run defenses. so I will roll with Quinton. Hope for the best.

I gotta decide between Sproles, Ganther, and Norwood.Norwood is pretty much out of the question considering Turner might be back and Norwood is banged up.

We get return yardage and it's PPR, so Sproles is an attractive option. But I am salivating at the Raiders matchup for Ganther.

 

[elbowrm]

Am I crazy for thinking about him over McCoy on a cold Meadowlands Sunday night?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Am I crazy for thinking about him over McCoy on a cold Meadowlands Sunday night?

If you are, I'm on the same crazy boat.I think I've pretty much decided to roll with him over Shady this week(of course, I could change my mind 100 times between now and Sunday).The Raiders have been pretty consistent giving up around 100 total yards and a touch to whomever has been the starting RB against. They've only really had 3 games where they haven't: The 2 vs. the Chargers(didn't give up the yards, but gave up 4 TDs in the 2 games) and one vs. the Giants(gave up the yards/TDs to Bradshaw instead of Jacobs).

 

[Crusaderfan]

My choice is Ganther, Kevin Smith @ Baltimore and Forsett @ Houston. Ganther is looking better and better.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Am I crazy for thinking about him over McCoy on a cold Meadowlands Sunday night?

That is a real tough call. At least you know with Westbrook out, McCoy will get most of the snaps. Just depends on how much you value opportunity. Ganther's workload is an unknown (see Harrison last night) . Good Luck

 

[george]

Picked him up.

But having a hard time starting him.

I'll be going with Jonathan Stewart. Half of Carolina carries > Half of Wash Carries.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I'll be going with Jonathan Stewart. Half of Carolina carries > Half of Wash Carries.

Not for nothin', buuuut....Oakland Raiders: 30th in FPA vs. RBs in a non-PPRNew Engalnd Patriots: 8th in FPA vs. RBs in a non-PPRPatriots have only given up 3 rushing TDs to running backs this season(tied for the least). Oakland? 14(tied for third worst.)Not saying he's a slam dunk over anyone, but given his schedule if there's any game remaining to start Ganther this is the one.

 

["The Waterboy"]

Seems like everyone is posting there "Ganther over...." so here's mine...Ganther vs Maroney vs Hightower vs J. Morgan? I like the looks of Ganther but I read somewhere on one of these sites that Mason might get the goal line work. It seems to me that Ganther's size (5'9 215) would be well suited at the goal line...anyone agree? I guess I should look up Mason's size as well...still, any thoughts about this "line of thinking"?

 

[Birdie048]

I picked him up to keep him out of my opponents line up. Not going to start him, but worth a hold.

 

[Mainevent]

Threads like this make me feel smart, as I picked him up 3 weeks ago in a dynasty league, if he performs well he will increase his dynasty value, as I see Washington in for a complete over haul after this year... which could lead to an opening at RB if they are willing to take the cap hit from releasing/cutting Portis.

This week I got McCoy, K Smith and Ganther... rolling with Ganther and K Smith b/c even tho the run game against Bal will be meh, he should get me some receptions.

 

[djmich]

There is absolutley the chance that he gets "half the carries" . But Zorn has shown that he is basically a one back guy until Rock. He gave most of the carries to Portis ( even after saying Betts will get the ball ) , he gave most of the carries to Betts after Portis went down. After Betts went down he started with Rock getting most of the carries but he just flat put stank.If Quinton is playing well expect alot of carries. If he is having a 3.0 ypc after he first 8 carries and looks like he cant break a tackle then you will see a rotation.

Its always a risk. Ask Jerome Harrison owners about that.

ALl I can add is that it really depends on who you have. I look at my situation. I have Quinton , Wells , Hightower. K Smith and Mcfadden. I will pick one of the ARZ backs on Monday ( Hightower) and then throw mcfadden out of the equation. and it comes down to Smith vs Quinton. I think Smith has been a minor bust this year and plays one of the top 3 run defenses. so I will roll with Quinton. Hope for the best.

 

[Raider Nation]

Picked him up.But having a hard time starting him.I'll be going with Jonathan Stewart. Half of Carolina carries > Half of Wash Carries.

I have the same decision (along with Beanie Wells), but I'm going with Ganther over both of them.Part of it, I admit, is that I like playing with new shiny toys. But honestly, he should do well against the Raiders.

 

[damageinc]

Some preseason Q runs

 

[KellysHeroes]

Playing him as a flex in a 16 teamer....

 

[damageinc]

Congrats to all of us who used Ganther. so far 24 fantasy points. One of the top fantasy Rbs on the day.

 

[djmich]

Congrats to all of us who used Ganther. so far 24 fantasy points. One of the top fantasy Rbs on the day.

:X Saved my season.

 

[Raider Nation]

:X

He's already plugged into my lineup against the G-Men next week on MNF.

 

[kearns]

It's nice that he's getting all the goal line work.

 

[Avery]

Beyond the stats, I'd love some insight as to how he looked from those that actually watched him play.

Did he run tough and/or make people miss or did he just have good blocking?

 

[Raider Nation]

Beyond the stats, I'd love some insight as to how he looked from those that actually watched him play.Did he run tough and/or make people miss or did he just have good blocking?

He looked "okay"... he's not extremely elusive, but he hits the hole HARD. That's his meal ticket, and why he's effective at the GL.

 

[damageinc]

He was able to get 4-5 yards at a time as hit hits the hole hard. But he came out of the game too much. Mason was in there for the entire next series. Not a good sign. But hey he did get goal line work.

 

[gnarboots11]

I played him, AND CRUSHED MY OPPONENT TO OPEN THE PLAYOFFS!!!! BOOM! QUINTON GANTHER STRAIGHT IN UR FACE!! BOOOOOM!!

 

[Abstract]

I dropped Norwood for Ganther on Wednesday.

 

[fatness]

I played him, AND CRUSHED MY OPPONENT TO OPEN THE PLAYOFFS!!!! BOOM! QUINTON GANTHER STRAIGHT IN UR FACE!! BOOOOOM!!

The other kids at recess are proud.

 

[djmich]

Beyond the stats, I'd love some insight as to how he looked from those that actually watched him play.Did he run tough and/or make people miss or did he just have good blocking?

He looked "okay"... he's not extremely elusive, but he hits the hole HARD. That's his meal ticket, and why he's effective at the GL.

I wouldn't plan on days like this in the future. The Skins don't have a juicy matchup like the Raiders the rest of the way, so he's unlikely to get 2 goal-line chances like he did today. Outside of those he looked solid, but not special, and it was actually a little concerning how little the Redskins ran until late in the game.

 

[Avery]

Beyond the stats, I'd love some insight as to how he looked from those that actually watched him play.Did he run tough and/or make people miss or did he just have good blocking?

He looked "okay"... he's not extremely elusive, but he hits the hole HARD. That's his meal ticket, and why he's effective at the GL.

I wouldn't plan on days like this in the future. The Skins don't have a juicy matchup like the Raiders the rest of the way, so he's unlikely to get 2 goal-line chances like he did today. Outside of those he looked solid, but not special, and it was actually a little concerning how little the Redskins ran until late in the game.

If Ware is out in two weeks it makes a fantasy football superbowl matchup against the December swooning Cowboys a bit juicier.

 

[Sarnoff]

He's already plugged into my lineup against the G-Men next week on MNF.

Is that a good matchup for him? I don't know the Giant's run D offhand, but I assume it's better than Oakland's. Ganther had the one legit TD but if it wasn't for the INT he might not have gotten a chance for that second one. Not that I'm complaining, I was up against the Brandon Marshall owner and that first TD sealed a 1-point win. But I'm curious as to what he'd be expected to do versus the G-men.

 

[Raider Nation]

He's already plugged into my lineup against the G-Men next week on MNF.

Is that a good matchup for him? I don't know the Giant's run D offhand, but I assume it's better than Oakland's.

I don't sweat the Giants. Moreno ran all over them in Denver.

 

[delusional]

lol he is my new #1 RB

 

[Avery]

He's already plugged into my lineup against the G-Men next week on MNF.

Is that a good matchup for him? I don't know the Giant's run D offhand, but I assume it's better than Oakland's.

I don't sweat the Giants. Moreno ran all over them in Denver.

FWIW, the Giants have changed half of their defensive line starters, 2/3 of their LB starters and both of their starting safeties over the past few weeks so the defense right now may be a lot different than it was just a few weeks ago.

 

[Prinefan]

Watched the whole game and he looked pretty good. Granted, it was the Raiders but he was consistantly making more yardage after first contact. Dragging tacklers on occasion.