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[12punch]

Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

 

[monessen]

Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

Not an embarrassment to this website? Then this isn't the site I know or thought I knew. And computers at middle schools were precluded from students being able to surf websites to post silliness. That no longer true in Massachusetts?

 

[12punch]

Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

Not an embarrassment to this website? Then this isn't the site I know or thought I knew. And computers at middle schools were precluded from students being able to surf websites to post silliness. That no longer true in Massachusetts?

I wouldn't know -- I don't live in Massachusetts

 

[Bojang0301]

Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

Not an embarrassment to this website? Then this isn't the site I know or thought I knew. And computers at middle schools were precluded from students being able to surf websites to post silliness. That no longer true in Massachusetts?

Don't feed him. He's either Rocket's alias or he's a little slow in the head.

 

[ROCKET]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

 

[12punch]

exactly -- what if I coated the ball with a contact poison and only my qb had the antidote?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I think that's a fair reason to pull for or against a team. If everyone you come into contact with a particular team is a whiny tool, then yeah, I pull against them. Works for me.

J

 

[Evilgrin 72]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

I was on record in that monster thread saying this was no big deal, but now I've changed my mind. It IS a big deal. The Patriots are flat-out cheaters and both Brady and Belichick are liars. Even your own local beat writers are saying it. Brady noticed nothing wrong with the balls last Sunday. So, does that mean he's lying when he says that, or that he's been playing with an illegal ball for so long that he doesn't even notice it anymore? Which is it? Liar or life-long cheater?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

exactly -- what if I coated the ball with a contact poison and only my qb had the antidote?

You should try that. Don't worry about wearing gloves.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

Not an embarrassment to this website? Then this isn't the site I know or thought I knew. And computers at middle schools were precluded from students being able to surf websites to post silliness. That no longer true in Massachusetts?

Don't feed him. He's either Rocket's alias or he's a little slow in the head.

You say this as if the two are mutually exclusive.

 

[ebsteelers]

6> 3 all time

2> 0 recently

 

[Steelers4Life]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

I was on record in that monster thread saying this was no big deal, but now I've changed my mind. It IS a big deal. The Patriots are flat-out cheaters and both Brady and Belichick are liars. Even your own local beat writers are saying it. Brady noticed nothing wrong with the balls last Sunday. So, does that mean he's lying when he says that, or that he's been playing with an illegal ball for so long that he doesn't even notice it anymore? Which is it? Liar or life-long cheater?

I vote both. Life long cheater AND liar. They're not mutually exclusive.

Tom Brady, who's thrown millions of footballs in his life and is very particular about how he likes them, can't tell when a ball has lost nearly 20% if it's air pressure? He can't notice that it's easier to grip and drive his fingers into? Anyone can do that with a football at home, and if you say you can't feel a difference, you're as much of a liar as he is. It's awesome that so many players, former players, and media personality have called him out for being such a dumb ### for saying that.

And Belicheck, who dissects the rule book like a surgeon each week looking for ways to gain a competitive advantage, knows little about the rule regarding air pressure or his star quarterback's preference for underinflated balls? How convenient that he skipped over that part of the rule book. He's a control freak, and he knows everything going on. I can't imagine the balls were deflated by some rogue ballboy without permission from Brady or Bellicheck. if not both.

They'd have smashed the Colts regardless. But I wonder if they did it the week before in cold weather and a 4 point win versus the Ravens? Hmmmmmm

 

[ROCKET]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

I was on record in that monster thread saying this was no big deal, but now I've changed my mind. It IS a big deal. The Patriots are flat-out cheaters and both Brady and Belichick are liars. Even your own local beat writers are saying it. Brady noticed nothing wrong with the balls last Sunday. So, does that mean he's lying when he says that, or that he's been playing with an illegal ball for so long that he doesn't even notice it anymore? Which is it? Liar or life-long cheater?

I vote both. Life long cheater AND liar. They're not mutually exclusive.

Tom Brady, who's thrown millions of footballs in his life and is very particular about how he likes them, can't tell when a ball has lost nearly 20% if it's air pressure? He can't notice that it's easier to grip and drive his fingers into? Anyone can do that with a football at home, and if you say you can't feel a difference, you're as much of a liar as he is. It's awesome that so many players, former players, and media personality have called him out for being such a dumb ### for saying that.

And Belicheck, who dissects the rule book like a surgeon each week looking for ways to gain a competitive advantage, knows little about the rule regarding air pressure or his star quarterback's preference for underinflated balls? How convenient that he skipped over that part of the rule book. He's a control freak, and he knows everything going on. I can't imagine the balls were deflated by some rogue ballboy without permission from Brady or Bellicheck. if not both.

They'd have smashed the Colts regardless. But I wonder if they did it the week before in cold weather and a 4 point win versus the Ravens? Hmmmmmm

True, life long cheaters Tom Brady and Terry Bradshaw, One already admitted cheater, a soon to be convicted cheater. 4 tainted rings vs 3 tainted rings. I know Lynn Swann would have never caught that ball vs Dallas if it was properly inflated. Cheaters, all of them. I'm wondering if Chuck Knoll was in on it too? ****'s for everyone

 

[12punch]

They'd have smashed the Colts steelers regardless. But I wonder if they did it the week before in cold weather and a 4 point win versus the Ravens, who smashed the steelers? Hmmmmmm

 

[Evilgrin 72]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

I was on record in that monster thread saying this was no big deal, but now I've changed my mind. It IS a big deal. The Patriots are flat-out cheaters and both Brady and Belichick are liars. Even your own local beat writers are saying it. Brady noticed nothing wrong with the balls last Sunday. So, does that mean he's lying when he says that, or that he's been playing with an illegal ball for so long that he doesn't even notice it anymore? Which is it? Liar or life-long cheater?

I vote both. Life long cheater AND liar. They're not mutually exclusive.

Tom Brady, who's thrown millions of footballs in his life and is very particular about how he likes them, can't tell when a ball has lost nearly 20% if it's air pressure? He can't notice that it's easier to grip and drive his fingers into? Anyone can do that with a football at home, and if you say you can't feel a difference, you're as much of a liar as he is. It's awesome that so many players, former players, and media personality have called him out for being such a dumb ### for saying that.

And Belicheck, who dissects the rule book like a surgeon each week looking for ways to gain a competitive advantage, knows little about the rule regarding air pressure or his star quarterback's preference for underinflated balls? How convenient that he skipped over that part of the rule book. He's a control freak, and he knows everything going on. I can't imagine the balls were deflated by some rogue ballboy without permission from Brady or Bellicheck. if not both.

They'd have smashed the Colts regardless. But I wonder if they did it the week before in cold weather and a 4 point win versus the Ravens? Hmmmmmm

Very strong point in bold. That's kind of what I'm getting at. If Brady legitimately didn't notice any difference in the pressure, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this because he wears Uggs and poses with kittens, then that means he's been playing with an illegally deflated ball for years, maybe his entire pro career. So, how do we know that every Patriots win of the last 15 years wasn't in some small part aided by a deflated ball? Many teams, I'd give a pass to on this, because it probably doesn't affect the game all that much. But this New England regime has already shown an eager willingness to disregard the NFL's rules in order to gain a competitive edge. There's a precedent there. So who knows what else they've done, and that's really what this whole story comes down to. It's not about 2 PSI. It's about a faux-nasty built on systematic disregard for the NFL's rules and regulations. I feel that swift and terrifying justice is coming.... but of course, after the Super Bowl. The NFL isn't dumb enough to wound the golden goose.

I think ultimately, much like the baseball HOF should do with the PED-users, Brady and Belichick's eventual Canton enshrinement should be in a separate room. You should have to walk into a vestibule and wait there while an audio track describes the various methods of cheating they employed to you, and only THEN will the door into the actual room with their busts open up. I also wouldn't mind if they altered the busts slightly, like having a tear dripping from Brady's eye or putting a big ol' set of tits on Belichick.

 

[12punch]

Very strong point in bold. That's kind of what I'm getting at. If Brady legitimately didn't notice any difference in the pressure, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this because he wears Uggs and poses with kittens, then that means he's been playing with an illegally deflated ball for years, maybe his entire pro career. So, how do we know that every Patriots win of the last 15 years wasn't in some small part aided by a deflated ball? Many teams, I'd give a pass to on this, because it probably doesn't affect the game all that much. But this New England regime has already shown an eager willingness to disregard the NFL's rules in order to gain a competitive edge. There's a precedent there. So who knows what else they've done, and that's really what this whole story comes down to. It's not about 2 PSI. It's about a faux-nasty built on systematic disregard for the NFL's rules and regulations. I feel that swift and terrifying justice is coming.... but of course, after the Super Bowl. The NFL isn't dumb enough to wound the golden goose.

I think ultimately, much like the baseball HOF should do with the PED-users, Brady and Belichick's eventual Canton enshrinement should be in a separate room. You should have to walk into a vestibule and wait there while an audio track describes the various methods of cheating they employed to you, and only THEN will the door into the actual room with their busts open up. I also wouldn't mind if they altered the busts slightly, like having a tear dripping from Brady's eye or putting a big ol' set of tits on Belichick.

lol this is the kind of bs you steelers fans spread that rocket is talking about

gronk poses with kittens -- brady poses with goats

anybody who actually follows the nfl knows this

 

[Evilgrin 72]

As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

I would argue that tampering with a ball BOTH teams use is more egregious than one you are only using yourself? What if the opposing qb didn't like his ball under inflated like Bradshaw did?

Yes I agree neither scenario is a big deal whether it happened in a game 4 minutes or 40 years ago or the ball was used by both teams or one. A rule is a rule, it existed in both eras and was broken in both.

Lets assume the Pats altered the pressure AFTER the ref checked the ball. Ok, I don't doubt it.

The whole point of this post is that it has already been done by the Steelers in the past and was readily admitted to by Bradshaw.

I would assume this is pretty common place in the league and has been going on for 40+ years.

Fortunately for the Steelers another team didn't have an axe to grind and they played in an era where the refs would have mostly laughed it off and told them to knock it off.

So technically we have absolute, concrete proof that the Steelers cheated as evidenced by Bradshaw's book. And yes I agree the Pats did the same thing 40 years later. I stand by my argument that Steelers fans should #### going forward as they are guilty of the same cheating.

Why do I say this? Because I know it's inevitable that the majority of them will grab at this low-hanging fruit and throw it at the Pats just like they did with spygate because the Pats have owned their franchise in every meaningful game in the last decade plus.

Why single out the Steelers, just because of the history of them cheating by messing with the balls and their fan base and players constant crying over the Pats success. For the one or two Steeler fans who are level headed and won't bring this up in future conversations my apologies to you.

For any other Steeler fans who think they have any room to comment on this I say pot meet kettle. And this is only directed only to Steeler fans so other fans don't bother chiming in as it doesn't involve you. They still have the right to throw stones over the whole ball deflating issue, you don't.

This thread is just for future reference so 6 months/a year from now when some jagoff Steeler fans start ranting about ballgate I can direct them back to their admitting of guilt for the same infraction. It's only a matter of time. That's all I'm saying on this for now but I will be bookmarking this for down the road when the Steeler hypocrisy starts, which likely won't be long.

Yeah, please do that. In fact, you've now guaranteed that I'm going to shove Deflategate in your f#$%ing face every chance I get. Because I want to see everyone else's reaction when you try to rationalize what's going on by pointing at a Terry Bradshaw quote talking about something that was supposedly done 40 years ago.

I was on record in that monster thread saying this was no big deal, but now I've changed my mind. It IS a big deal. The Patriots are flat-out cheaters and both Brady and Belichick are liars. Even your own local beat writers are saying it. Brady noticed nothing wrong with the balls last Sunday. So, does that mean he's lying when he says that, or that he's been playing with an illegal ball for so long that he doesn't even notice it anymore? Which is it? Liar or life-long cheater?

I vote both. Life long cheater AND liar. They're not mutually exclusive.

Tom Brady, who's thrown millions of footballs in his life and is very particular about how he likes them, can't tell when a ball has lost nearly 20% if it's air pressure? He can't notice that it's easier to grip and drive his fingers into? Anyone can do that with a football at home, and if you say you can't feel a difference, you're as much of a liar as he is. It's awesome that so many players, former players, and media personality have called him out for being such a dumb ### for saying that.

And Belicheck, who dissects the rule book like a surgeon each week looking for ways to gain a competitive advantage, knows little about the rule regarding air pressure or his star quarterback's preference for underinflated balls? How convenient that he skipped over that part of the rule book. He's a control freak, and he knows everything going on. I can't imagine the balls were deflated by some rogue ballboy without permission from Brady or Bellicheck. if not both.

They'd have smashed the Colts regardless. But I wonder if they did it the week before in cold weather and a 4 point win versus the Ravens? Hmmmmmm

True, life long cheaters Tom Brady and Terry Bradshaw, One already admitted cheater, a soon to be convicted cheater. 4 tainted rings vs 3 tainted rings. I know Lynn Swann would have never caught that ball vs Dallas if it was properly inflated. Cheaters, all of them. I'm wondering if Chuck Knoll was in on it too? ****'s for everyone

The NFL should investigate the 70s Steelers then. Until they do, it's really not germane to the Deflategate discussion, except as a sad and obvious deflection attempt by a small handful of Patriots fans in disbelief that their franchise got caught cheating yet again.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Very strong point in bold. That's kind of what I'm getting at. If Brady legitimately didn't notice any difference in the pressure, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this because he wears Uggs and poses with kittens, then that means he's been playing with an illegally deflated ball for years, maybe his entire pro career. So, how do we know that every Patriots win of the last 15 years wasn't in some small part aided by a deflated ball? Many teams, I'd give a pass to on this, because it probably doesn't affect the game all that much. But this New England regime has already shown an eager willingness to disregard the NFL's rules in order to gain a competitive edge. There's a precedent there. So who knows what else they've done, and that's really what this whole story comes down to. It's not about 2 PSI. It's about a faux-nasty built on systematic disregard for the NFL's rules and regulations. I feel that swift and terrifying justice is coming.... but of course, after the Super Bowl. The NFL isn't dumb enough to wound the golden goose.

I think ultimately, much like the baseball HOF should do with the PED-users, Brady and Belichick's eventual Canton enshrinement should be in a separate room. You should have to walk into a vestibule and wait there while an audio track describes the various methods of cheating they employed to you, and only THEN will the door into the actual room with their busts open up. I also wouldn't mind if they altered the busts slightly, like having a tear dripping from Brady's eye or putting a big ol' set of tits on Belichick.

lol this is the kind of bs you steelers fans spread that rocket is talking about

gronk poses with kittens -- brady poses with goats

anybody who actually follows the nfl knows this

OK, that was funny.

 

[ROCKET]

Now that Bradshaw has admitted to blatant cheating back in the day by having the balls deflated AFTER the refs checked them I think it's possible he may be kicked out of Canton. You know, all this cheating just can't be tolerated and he no doubt had an unfair advantage from doing it.

I agree 100% with your Steeler mentality. Nice of Terry to include this in his memoirs for it all to be exposed.We now won't need some jealous competitor from back in the day to file alleagations and have the NFL go on a witch hunt to expose it.

******

 

[ROCKET]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

 

[Copeman]

Jesus. This thread is a trainwreck.....

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

Please write to the NFL and submit your evidence. Ask them to do something about it.

Please keep us updated on your progress.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Jesus. This thread is a trainwreck.....

It passed trainwreck a while ago. Right now, it's like a bunch of necrophiliacs picking through the wreckage and rogering as many dead rumps as possible.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

ROCKET in blue

 

[ROCKET]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

Please write to the NFL and submit your evidence. Ask them to do something about it.

Please keep us updated on your progress.

No need to, Terry admitted it. Are you denying he didn't say he had balls deflated after refs ok'd them for game play? What investigation is needed?

He is guilty in the court of public opinion, unless you're a Steelers apologist. Your organization cheated, after all we know manipulating ball pressure is cheating now don't we? Just deal with it. It's ok you sill have your 6 rings.

 

[ROCKET]

ROCKET in blue

Oh cool, personal attacks. Nice way to make your point. Not surprising coming from a cheating fanbase.

 

[Godsbrother]

Jesus. This thread is a trainwreck.....

 

[Steelers4Life]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

The funniest part of all of this is that Bradshaw made it clear in that quote that this went on in a lot of locker rooms, but he explicitly says the Steelers didn't take part in that awful practice of the 70's. You know, making the ball easier to use for both teams. The Steelers were above such a silly practice, I guess ROCKET wants to assume he was being sarcastic, though.

So, case closed... back to the regularly scheduled and well-deserved Brady and Bellichek bashing

 

[12punch]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

is this what really goes on in your neighborhood?

 

[Steelers4Life]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

is this what really goes on in your neighborhood?

Every neighborhood had "that kid." My assumption is that ROCKET either is or was "that kid."

 

[12punch]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

is this what really goes on in your neighborhood?

Every neighborhood had "that kid." My assumption is that ROCKET either is or was "that kid."

yeah, most of us don't hang out with them, though

at least as adults

 

[ROCKET]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

The funniest part of all of this is that Bradshaw made it clear in that quote that this went on in a lot of locker rooms, but he explicitly says the Steelers didn't take part in that awful practice of the 70's. You know, making the ball easier to use for both teams. The Steelers were above such a silly practice, I guess ROCKET wants to assume he was being sarcastic, though.

So, case closed... back to the regularly scheduled and well-deserved Brady and Bellichek bashing

This is your argument? Really?, I thought you could do better. You own the cheating after Terry rambled on about the good ol days. Just embrace it. It's kind of silly saying how a whole team/legacy is tainted for acts like this but it is what it is. Cheating.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Trainwreck? Oh, c'mon. ROCKET is like that annoying little 14 year old in the neighborhood who it's fun to get all riled up and see what he says next.

The funniest part of all of this is that Bradshaw made it clear in that quote that this went on in a lot of locker rooms, but he explicitly says the Steelers didn't take part in that awful practice of the 70's. You know, making the ball easier to use for both teams. The Steelers were above such a silly practice, I guess ROCKET wants to assume he was being sarcastic, though.

So, case closed... back to the regularly scheduled and well-deserved Brady and Bellichek bashing

This is your argument? Really?, I thought you could do better. You own the cheating after Terry rambled on about the good ol days. Just embrace it. It's kind of silly saying how a whole team/legacy is tainted for acts like this but it is what it is. Cheating.

Nah, no it's not. Not silly at all.

The Patriots won 3 titles during a period when they were illegally taping signals and got the biggest fine and punishment in the history of professional sports for it. And they were arrogant enough to do it when they were warned not to beforehand. Tainted.

The Patriots have no been caught - by any reasonable estimation - of deflating footballs and likely lying about their knowledge of it. How long has it been going on? How many close games has it affected? Tainted.

And according to Terry, the Steelers didn't do any of that stuff A denial is not the same as an admission of guilt even if you believe it's laced with sarcasm. If you want to pick at the Steelers of the 70's, pick at them for the fact that a lot of them probably popped steroids like they were candy. That'd be much better.

But of course, that has nothing to do with deflating balls. Today, it gives one team a decided competitive advantage. In the 70's, both teams used the same balls. So whatever all those OTHER teams that weren't the Steelers were doing that Terry had knowledge of was probably doing everyone a favor.

If anything, those teams who did that should be commended with some kind of medal of honor I'd think. Do you think we can push for an investigation to find out which teams in the 70's actually did that so we can retroactively give them some kind of award or something?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

Please write to the NFL and submit your evidence. Ask them to do something about it.

Please keep us updated on your progress.

No need to, Terry admitted it. Are you denying he didn't say he had balls deflated after refs ok'd them for game play? What investigation is needed?He is guilty in the court of public opinion, unless you're a Steelers apologist. Your organization cheated, after all we know manipulating ball pressure is cheating now don't we? Just deal with it. It's ok you sill have your 6 rings.

I am a juror in the Court of public opinion. My verdict is that the stench of desperation coming from you is as noticeable as the unchanged soiled drawers on an octogenarian cabbage eater. Trying to drag down others to bouy yourself up is sad. Finally, please change your screen name to Sugartits, since that is how the rest of us will think of you from this thread forward.

 

[rick6668]

ROCKET in blue

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

Please write to the NFL and submit your evidence. Ask them to do something about it.

Please keep us updated on your progress.

No need to, Terry admitted it. Are you denying he didn't say he had balls deflated after refs ok'd them for game play? What investigation is needed?

He is guilty in the court of public opinion, unless you're a Steelers apologist. Your organization cheated, after all we know manipulating ball pressure is cheating now don't we? Just deal with it. It's ok you sill have your 6 rings.

Yes, and I am fine with it. You won't see me starting a thread calling out Patriots fans who are claiming that this whole mess is no big deal and saying they can't have an opinion on whether or not the 70s Steelers deserve their trophies or not. Fair enough?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

ROCKET in blue

Oh cool, personal attacks. Nice way to make your point. Not surprising coming from a cheating fanbase.

Personal attacks.... get a grip. (pun intended)

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The good news is we won't need the NFL to investigate, Terry gave up a voluntary confession of all of the wrong doing.

Please write to the NFL and submit your evidence. Ask them to do something about it.

Please keep us updated on your progress.

No need to, Terry admitted it. Are you denying he didn't say he had balls deflated after refs ok'd them for game play? What investigation is needed?He is guilty in the court of public opinion, unless you're a Steelers apologist. Your organization cheated, after all we know manipulating ball pressure is cheating now don't we? Just deal with it. It's ok you sill have your 6 rings.

I am a juror in the Court of public opinion. My verdict is that the stench of desperation coming from you is as noticeable as the unchanged soiled drawers on an octogenarian cabbage eater. Trying to drag down others to bouy yourself up is sad. Finally, please change your screen name to Sugartits, since that is how the rest of us will think of you from this thread forward.

My love for DW knows no bounds.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Where did Rocket go? This thread needs more of Rocket. The other Pats fans in here

I retract this. Rocket is boring. 12punch, on the other hand, is killing it in here.

 

[3C's]

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Bradshaw-on-the-One-Time-Someone-Broke-the-Rules-Under-Noll-34998098

 

[12punch]

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Bradshaw-on-the-One-Time-Someone-Broke-the-Rules-Under-Noll-34998098

ohhhhh.....good link

so, their whole dynasty was built on liquid silicone

I guess noll just happened to walk in on that one day they were using it, right?

edit: lol typing

 

[monessen]

Had to log back in to check on the progress of the footballguys.com thread version of Heaven's Gate coupled with the Hindenburg.

Seems the basis for the thread, as expressed by its originator, was a pre-emptive strike on folks who conceivably may diss the Pats someday. Steeler fans who'd criticize the Pats for this or subsequent indiscretions are hypocrites, it says. I miss any other nuance? Is that the gist? So . . . ya got, like, anything else?

Because, like Steelers4Life depicted the discourse, the rest is just trash-talk concocted to annoy or be a nuisance. Filler, with selective and distorted attacks on a rival team's success as cheap or tainted. If there is other gunny-sacking, shucks, don't prolong it. Just heave the rest now and no charges will be pressed. The consensus is there is a 1-2 Rocket Punch that doesn't, in any way, represent the classy wing of New England Patriots fandom. Just birds of a feather perhaps terrified of Seattle.

I thought there was no peeing in the Shark Pool, but there is bladder or 2 repeatedly full and voiding. You're off the hook, though, because we all remember when we had our first beer, too. You'll be ok.