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Most fans don’t know it, but before the game we would doctor the footballs that would be used. Until the season of 2000 it was up to the home team to provide twenty-four game balls to the officials for each game. A brand-new NFL football straight from the factory is not easy to throw or catch. It’s rock hard and very slippery. So in the privacy of the locker room before the game, players would take the footballs and rub them and scrub them to remove the glaze, or deflate them, then pump them up with air real big to stretch the leather. On some teams the kickers would put them through a cycle in the dryer. Some teams did this, but naturally not the Steelers, because we were righteous folk who would never stretch the rules, and when these other teams—not the Steelers—were finished, they would put them back in the plastic wrapping and right back in the box. Some teams—who were not the Steelers—after the officials had checked and approved the game balls, would let out a couple of pound of air to make it easier for the quarterback to grip it.

Guess who's book this came from? :o

 
Its terry Bradshaw, and you realize at that point that the home team provided game balls for BOTH teams, not just their own, right?

So any doctoring of the balls had the same effect on both teams, right?

Stop searching for ways to justify another example of the Patriots trying to gain a competitive advantage by stretching - and in this and other cases - breaking the rules.

Just enjoy the Super Bowl and let it go.

 
Is the point that you have believe Terry is telling the truth about the rampant abuse of those rules in the pre-2000 era, that you believe he's lying about the Steelers' complicity, that you simply want try for the fiftieth time today to deflect grief from the Patriots by bringing up irrelevancies, or that you simply want to take shots at that fanbase? Because in that last case, I'm not sure it's going all that well for you.

 
Is the point that you have believe Terry is telling the truth about the rampant abuse of those rules in the pre-2000 era, that you believe he's lying about the Steelers' complicity, that you simply want try for the fiftieth time today to deflect grief from the Patriots by bringing up irrelevancies, or that you simply want to take shots at that fanbase? Because in that last case, I'm not sure it's going all that well for you.
So it stopped there? Ok, cool. Now it all makes sense.

 
Its terry Bradshaw, and you realize at that point that the home team provided game balls for BOTH teams, not just their own, right?

So any doctoring of the balls had the same effect on both teams, right?

Stop searching for ways to justify another example of the Patriots trying to gain a competitive advantage by stretching - and in this and other cases - breaking the rules.

Just enjoy the Super Bowl and let it go.
of course not.

what if they were playing aaron wroggers, who likes his balls firm?

did their doctors juice both teams, too?

 
Its terry Bradshaw, and you realize at that point that the home team provided game balls for BOTH teams, not just their own, right?

So any doctoring of the balls had the same effect on both teams, right?

Stop searching for ways to justify another example of the Patriots trying to gain a competitive advantage by stretching - and in this and other cases - breaking the rules.

Just enjoy the Super Bowl and let it go.
of course not.

what if they were playing aaron wroggers, who likes his balls firm?

did their doctors juice both teams, too?
Stop making sense.

 
:lmao:

U mad bro?
I think the question is more suited for you Steeler fans? You basically have no leg to stand on now to throw deflategate out there in your future Pats bashings as your team has been outed by one of your own legends for doing the exact same thing. How ironic.

Other fan bases can pile on but now you are exempt. As someone who knows plenty of bandwagon, dooshbag Steeler fans this makes me quite happy. :lol:

 
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:lmao:

U mad bro?
I think the question is more suited for you Steeler fans? You basically have no leg to stand on now to throw deflategate out there in your future Pats bashings as your team has been outed by one of your own legends for doing the exact same thing. How ironic.

Other fan bases can pile on but now you are exempt. As someone who knows plenty of bandwagon, dooshbag Steeler fans this makes me quite happy. :lol:
Nah, I think I'll pile on anyway. Just for you, sugartits.

 
Cool, we can debate which one of our titles is more tainted.
You have to win first. Then, you can try to argue that it isn't tainted.

There are three major differences between this "deflategate" stuff and what you quoted from Bradshaw above :

1) One was 40 years ago and no one gives a #### any more.

2) One got caught and one didn't.

3) One had already been docked draft picks for cheating and one hadn't.

If someone gets picked up for carrying an illegal firearm, no one cares if you start pointing out all the other people who carried guns 40 years ago. You're going to get in trouble. And if you have a prior on your record for shooting your manicurist, you're going to get in a whole lot more trouble. That's the way the world works. the more you point fingers at others, the guiltier you look.

Just look at it this way, you've got 3 titles already and maybe a 4th coming in 10 days. Who really cares if there's an asterisk next to them? The trophies will still be in your building, right?

 
Its terry Bradshaw, and you realize at that point that the home team provided game balls for BOTH teams, not just their own, right?

So any doctoring of the balls had the same effect on both teams, right?

Stop searching for ways to justify another example of the Patriots trying to gain a competitive advantage by stretching - and in this and other cases - breaking the rules.

Just enjoy the Super Bowl and let it go.
of course not.

what if they were playing aaron wroggers, who likes his balls firm?

did their doctors juice both teams, too?
You're kidding, right?

 
Its terry Bradshaw, and you realize at that point that the home team provided game balls for BOTH teams, not just their own, right?

So any doctoring of the balls had the same effect on both teams, right?

Stop searching for ways to justify another example of the Patriots trying to gain a competitive advantage by stretching - and in this and other cases - breaking the rules.

Just enjoy the Super Bowl and let it go.
of course not.

what if they were playing aaron wroggers, who likes his balls firm?

did their doctors juice both teams, too?
Stop making sense.
Pretty sure he's done that already.

 
My only point is regardless of the Steelers doing the same thing 4 months ago, 4 years ago or 40 years ago they did it. It was still against the rules back then. So with that being said I would be inclined to think it would be a pretty hollow argument for a fan of that team to make vs the Pats.

I could care less about public opinion and all the other bs that goes on but to me there is no way a Steeler fan can say much about this after what Terry admitted to.

 
EG is talking like how I feel- jet lagged and laid over in a non-smoking airport after a 12 hour flight with the seat ahead leaned back the entire way.

Fight the power :thumbup:

 
My only point is regardless of the Steelers doing the same thing 4 months ago, 4 years ago or 40 years ago they did it. It was still against the rules back then. So with that being said I would be inclined to think it would be a pretty hollow argument for a fan of that team to make vs the Pats.

I could care less about public opinion and all the other bs that goes on but to me there is no way a Steeler fan can say much about this after what Terry admitted to.
See, that's where you're being disingenuous. You DO care about public opinion. That's why you posted this thread to begin with. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, they're going to get another trophy regardless. The thing that kills you is that the NFL-watching public views the New England organization as cheaters, so you want to point fingers wherever else you can.

Those asterisks won't appear in the record books, just in people's minds. If that didn't bother you, you wouldn't waste 5 seconds discussing it. Just own it. Don't say one thing with your words while your heart is screaming something else. Because we all hear it.

 
My only point is regardless of the Steelers doing the same thing 4 months ago, 4 years ago or 40 years ago they did it. It was still against the rules back then. So with that being said I would be inclined to think it would be a pretty hollow argument for a fan of that team to make vs the Pats.

I could care less about public opinion and all the other bs that goes on but to me there is no way a Steeler fan can say much about this after what Terry admitted to.
See, that's where you're being disingenuous. You DO care about public opinion. That's why you posted this thread to begin with. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, they're going to get another trophy regardless. The thing that kills you is that the NFL-watching public views the New England organization as cheaters, so you want to point fingers wherever else you can.

Those asterisks won't appear in the record books, just in people's minds. If that didn't bother you, you wouldn't waste 5 seconds discussing it. Just own it. Don't say one thing with your words while your heart is screaming something else. Because we all hear it.
Whatever rationalization that makes you sleep better at night is fine with me.

 
My only point is regardless of the Steelers doing the same thing 4 months ago, 4 years ago or 40 years ago they did it. It was still against the rules back then. So with that being said I would be inclined to think it would be a pretty hollow argument for a fan of that team to make vs the Pats.

I could care less about public opinion and all the other bs that goes on but to me there is no way a Steeler fan can say much about this after what Terry admitted to.
See, that's where you're being disingenuous. You DO care about public opinion. That's why you posted this thread to begin with. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, they're going to get another trophy regardless. The thing that kills you is that the NFL-watching public views the New England organization as cheaters, so you want to point fingers wherever else you can.Those asterisks won't appear in the record books, just in people's minds. If that didn't bother you, you wouldn't waste 5 seconds discussing it. Just own it. Don't say one thing with your words while your heart is screaming something else. Because we all hear it.
Whatever rationalization that makes you sleep better at night is fine with me.
:lmao:

Yes, I will lose much sleep over this. You really should read your own words. Over and over, make it your mantra.

No one is naive enough to think teams don't fiddle with their balls. (giggle) I'm sure every team has done it at one point or another. Your boys just got popped. There are priors on the rap sheet. Your coach is so arrogant and unlikable that people are going to revel in this. Just learn to deal with it. Embrace the heel role. Starting threads like this to point the Eye of Sauron elsewhere does nothing except make people hate your team and its fanbase even more, which is the absolute antithesis of what you're trying to achieve.

 
My only point is regardless of the Steelers doing the same thing 4 months ago, 4 years ago or 40 years ago they did it. It was still against the rules back then. So with that being said I would be inclined to think it would be a pretty hollow argument for a fan of that team to make vs the Pats.

I could care less about public opinion and all the other bs that goes on but to me there is no way a Steeler fan can say much about this after what Terry admitted to.
See, that's where you're being disingenuous. You DO care about public opinion. That's why you posted this thread to begin with. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, they're going to get another trophy regardless. The thing that kills you is that the NFL-watching public views the New England organization as cheaters, so you want to point fingers wherever else you can.Those asterisks won't appear in the record books, just in people's minds. If that didn't bother you, you wouldn't waste 5 seconds discussing it. Just own it. Don't say one thing with your words while your heart is screaming something else. Because we all hear it.
Whatever rationalization that makes you sleep better at night is fine with me.
:lmao:

Yes, I will lose much sleep over this. You really should read your own words. Over and over, make it your mantra.

No one is naive enough to think teams don't fiddle with their balls. (giggle) I'm sure every team has done it at one point or another. Your boys just got popped. There are priors on the rap sheet. Your coach is so arrogant and unlikable that people are going to revel in this. Just learn to deal with it. Embrace the heel role. Starting threads like this to point the Eye of Sauron elsewhere does nothing except make people hate your team and its fanbase even more, which is the absolute antithesis of what you're trying to achieve.
I would agree, except that suggesting all this makes people, "hate them even more," almost lends them an air of substance. I'd suggest rather that it makes us, "respect them even less."

 
Oh my god, let this guy argue with himself. If he wants to compare the Steelers doctoring the balls in the 70's that both teams used during the games to make it easier for both teams, to the Patriots doctoring their own game balls to give them a competitive advantage, let him. If that's what he needs to do to justify why public opinion is wrong, who cares?

It's not about whether they would've won or lost with or without the cheating. Is about the fact that they did it.

It's been a pattern with the Patriots, and it seems that if they're proven to have done something against the rules to gain an advantage (which by almost every account they have), it's going to tarnish not only this season, but it's going to reinforce the opinion that a lot of what they've accomplished will be tarnished in the court of public opinion.

 
I hadn't noticed before, but you can really pick up the stench of desperation coming off these steelers fans as pats get their chance at another title

I don't know why you guys even care --- this pats dynasty doesn't diminish your titles from 100 yrs ago, or whenever.

the juicing might, but nothing that's happening with the pats

 
I hadn't noticed before, but you can really pick up the stench of desperation coming off these steelers fans as pats get their chance at another title

I don't know why you guys even care --- this pats dynasty doesn't diminish your titles from 100 yrs ago, or whenever.

the juicing might, but nothing that's happening with the pats
I still don't understand this. The Pats haven't won anything since shortly after the turn of the century. Why are fans of teams that have won multiple titles since then "desperate?" :confused:

Are you seeing Giants as desperate too? Or is this just jealousy talking because that particular franchise trumps you in both history and recency?

 
Some Patriot fans give the Patriots a bad name. What Steeler fans have been bashing the Pats about deflated balls? If so, Steeler fans are not alone. The Bradshaw statement is a flimsy counter-argument to justify animosity or is a sad but revealing display of jealousy toward Pittsburgh.

Did I read the Ravens tip the Colts off about the Pats' ball chicanery? What has any of that to do with the Steelers?

 
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"In all seriousness - it's a bummer & something that will overshadow SB Week. So tough to defend if true. And so unnecessary. I don't get it."

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"So, yes, I think the intent was devious, and it was Belichickian to the core...

Everyone knows the right team won the game, but that doesnt absolve Bill Belichick of a crime here. I totally endorse suspension. He is incorrigible. He skated away much too easily with a fine and draft choice in Spygate. He didnt learn any lesson. He didnt make any change in his M.O. Hes an amazingly brazen envelope pusher. Roger Goodell has to come down on Bill Belichick. And I would think a suspension of, I dont know, three games at least, next year is warranted. (Belichick) does not care. He obviously does not care what any of the public thinks. Hes embarrassed his owner, hes embarrassed his players, embarrassed his fans who are always on the defensive.

Name the notorious Steelers fans to whom these two quotes can be attributed.

 
I hadn't noticed before, but you can really pick up the stench of desperation coming off these steelers fans as pats get their chance at another title

I don't know why you guys even care --- this pats dynasty doesn't diminish your titles from 100 yrs ago, or whenever.

the juicing might, but nothing that's happening with the pats
Because it was a Steeler fan that started this thread?

 
As was pointed out, this was 40 years ago and the rules were different then. Both teams were playing the same ball so neither team had a competitive advantage. I'm not sure how this compares to the Pats situation at all.

Look, the Pats blew out the Colts and it had nothing to do with the footballs. The issue here is did someone on the Pats purposely deflate the balls after they were inspected? If the answer is yes than those people responsible should be held accountable for it. What is so hard to understand about that?

 
gotta love a fan base that will defend a rapist and crucify a ball deflator.
looooooooooool
I think Ben was exonerated, but was preemptively suspended six games. As a neutral party, I'd be cool with a fraction of that for Tom Brady. :shrug:

Pats have come a long way since enabling the likes of Irving Fryar, so I assume they'll do the right thing and have Tom in street clothes for the Super Bowl.

 
I hadn't noticed before, but you can really pick up the stench of desperation coming off these steelers fans as pats get their chance at another title

I don't know why you guys even care --- this pats dynasty doesn't diminish your titles from 100 yrs ago, or whenever.

the juicing might, but nothing that's happening with the pats
Funny. "This pats dynasty" isn't even known for winning titles. It has more cheating fines and lost draft picks in the last ten years than titles. Ironically, the Steelers themselves have more titles than "this pats dynasty" (i.e., team of the past decade) - it doesn't make them a dynasty either... just a more successful organization than the Pats.

 
As a Steelers fan I could care less about this deflated ball fiasco. It has been well know that the old Steelers teams unabashedly took steroids much in the same fashion the Cowboys of the 90's did coke. Obviously one affects play and the other does not but it kind of builds up to the same point of never having a major impact on the general publics mindset. I truly believe the public has a hatred for BB because he is anti-social and seems to probably hate people. Can't really blame him there but what comes with that is an increased microscope to "catch you in the act" much in the same fashion of Richard Nixon. Chuck Noll is a guy who really stayed off the radar in the canals of history. When people talk coaches they'll go to Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, or Ditka. Whatever they were doing back then that seems to have bought them a lot of grace from media scrutiny.

Not saying that make it right but your QB is a diva who parades around in UGG's and your coach is an ### hole to, well, everyone. You're going to draw some attention and the team should probably have some self-awareness of it.

And let's not pull the "cheers for a rapist" card. Your team had a murderer on it and the NFL is filled with dregs of society on each squad.

 
Since when does someone getting away with breaking the rules justify others to break the rule?

Also can you please show me the rule book from 1970 where it shows how the balls can be broken in? From my understanding there is no specific rule on how they can be broken in?

Also I can specifically point in the rulebook to where the Patriots broke the rules and that was the PSI required in the balls. I can not see where breaking in the ball is against the rules unless its the kicking ball which must be new and unused prior to the game.

Direct rule from the NFL Rulebook:

Rule 2 The Ball

Section 1

BALL DIMENSIONS

The Ball must be a “Wilson,” hand selected, bearing the signature of the Commissioner of the League, Roger Goodell.

The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) urethane bladder enclosed in a pebble grained, leather case

(natural tan color) without corrugations of any kind. It shall have the form of a prolate spheroid and the size and weight

shall be: long axis, 11 to 11 1/4 inches; long circumference, 28 to 28 1/2 inches; short circumference, 21 to 21 1/4 inches;

weight, 14 to 15 ounces.

The Referee shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications. A pump is to be

furnished by the home club, and the balls shall remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the

ball attendant just prior to the start of the game.

Section 2

BALL SUPPLY

Each team will make 12 primary balls available for testing by the Referee two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of

the game to meet League requirements. The home team will also make 12 backup balls available for testing in all

stadiums. In addition, the visitors, at their discretion, may bring 12 backup balls to be tested by the Referee for games

held in outdoor stadiums. For all games, eight new footballs, sealed in a special box and shipped by the manufacturer to

the Referee, will be opened in the officials’ locker room two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of the game.

These balls are to be specially marked by the Referee and used exclusively for the kicking game.

In the event a home team ball does not conform to specifications, or its supply is exhausted, the Referee shall secure a proper

ball from the visitors and, failing that, use the best available ball. Any such circumstances must be reported to the

Commissioner.

In case of rain or a wet, muddy, or slippery field, a playable ball shall be used at the request of the offensive team’s center.

The Game Clock shall not stop for such action (unless undue delay occurs).

Note: It is the responsibility of the home team to furnish playable balls at all times by attendants from either side of the playing

field.

 
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And let's not pull the "cheers for a rapist" card. Your team had a murderer on it and the NFL is filled with dregs of society on each squad.
Doesn't change the fact. Pats have had class acts such as Corey Dillon, CJ, Moss, Harrison, Haynesworth, Browner, Talib and Blount on their team. Playing the holier than though card isn't smart for any team. Especially when your trying to get sympathy points for an alleged cheating scandal.
 
And let's not pull the "cheers for a rapist" card. Your team had a murderer on it and the NFL is filled with dregs of society on each squad.
Doesn't change the fact. Pats have had class acts such as Corey Dillon, CJ, Moss, Harrison, Haynesworth, Browner, Talib and Blount on their team. Playing the holier than though card isn't smart for any team. Especially when your trying to get sympathy points for an alleged cheating scandal.
how many women did those guys rape combined?

 
Seriously, Steeler Nation and objective, rational posters have had enough of the childish nonsense. Take the lame juvenile fishing expedition thread downstream. It's an embarrassment to this site, and not really on football it ever was. Focus on the Seahawks, and show some class. Your team was the AFC's best in 2014. That's clear. Leave the Steelers out of it along with the personal attacks. You got a gift-wrapped Blount from Pittsburgh to replace Ridley and the ones who can't cut it.

You're welcome.

 

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