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in standard league scoring he is currently ranked 26, one spot behind Steven Jackson and four ahead of Clinton Portis. The guy is the only healthy RB on the team (other than a dude who was inactive last week). He hasn't played well at all and I 'm not much of a fan, but to say he has no value in ridiculous.
So did u see where Brees was yelling at him on the sideline for not doing his job, which was as easy as turning around and catching the ball! But instead twice he got hit in the back with the ball on a swing pass, and I find it hard to belive it could happen once, but twice not to be paying attention, hmmm....maybe cuz he is horrible and his only value of catching passes seems to be a problem!AGAIN HE HAS NO VALUE, WHEN A GUY NAMED LYDELL HAMILTON STARTS OVER U CUZ, CHANCES ARE U R NOT GOOD!Keep giving him passes and keep being dissappointed!I am a huge Saints fan and follower, the only people who support this guys are fans who have not realized he holds the Saints back, and his fantasy owners!FOR THE RECORD: I HATE THIS GUY AS A PLAYER!Skinsfan said:
Crazy. Bush's value is only slightly more than Leon's, so essentially it is Hester for Moss....wow. Giving up on the most talented WR in the game after one bad week...Randy had 12 catches for 141 in week 1, leading the league in reception. Just hasn't found the end zone yet....that is just crazy.
You can hate him all you want, but as long as he is getting targets and he still catches 60- 80 balls a year. Obviously a disappointment as a running back. Bush is good for 900 yards, 60 receptions, 6 TD's. There is value there.
Heres his stat line on the most powerful offense this year.........47 yards rushing and 1 Rushing score.....8 receptions for 97 yards, and 1 fumble! Looks a lil' like he might not have value, and that TD was a garbage score that would not have happened if there were healthy RB's!He will go down with a bumb knee soon anyways, its his tradition!
Right, at this point, he is a known commodity. Probably safe to project a little better on the yardage totals by being in the 1,000 to 1,200 yard range for this season.Prior to this year Bush averaged 11 carries for 40 yards and 5.6 recs for 43 yards and about .5 TD's a game from LOSTwo games into the season he is at 8.5 carries for 23.5 yards and 4 recs for 48.5 yards and .5 TD's a game from LOSOwners should expect 70 - 80 combined yards and 4-5 catches a game with a TD every other week.Plug in your scoring system and value accordingly after factoring in his injury history.
I think you are wrong here. You are a Saints fan so you get to see him more than I do I'm sure but in fantasy football, when he is healthy, he is an above average player in mos formats.JuSt CuZ said:
Good thing my league doesn't reward TD's in garbage time
In PPR he's the #19 RB ahead of people like Rice, McFadden, Turner, and SJax. I know he has more value than Rice and McFadden in PPR, possibly Turner. I don't care if he's a good NFL RB or not, he's averaging 13.7 pt/game right behind Ryan Grant and Thomas Jones. If you play in a standard scoring system, he might not have a lot of value. But those 8 receptions are almost an extra 1 1/2 td's. If he's on the most powerful offense or the weakest doesn't matter. His stat line matters. Being on a stronger offense only helps his upside.
Throw the first game out of the window since he missed most of the preseason. They were not going to throw him into the wolves. Your own coach said as much. In regards to the garbage TD, well, that's what Bush does` and that's why he has fantasy value. I'd look to week two as the standard more than I'd look to week one.
I forgot, some people are not football fans....and relate everything to fantasy football!I care about a good Saints season!Good thing my league doesn't reward TD's in garbage timeIn PPR he's the #19 RB ahead of people like Rice, McFadden, Turner, and SJax. I know he has more value than Rice and McFadden in PPR, possibly Turner. I don't care if he's a good NFL RB or not, he's averaging 13.7 pt/game right behind Ryan Grant and Thomas Jones. If you play in a standard scoring system, he might not have a lot of value. But those 8 receptions are almost an extra 1 1/2 td's. If he's on the most powerful offense or the weakest doesn't matter. His stat line matters. Being on a stronger offense only helps his upside.
The whole backfield is injury prone. Mike Bell is injury prone, Thomas is injury prone, Bush is injury prone. For all anyone knows Bush could end up being the only one who stays healthy all year. Those who refuse to see value in Bush are basicly sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"
Oh and I forgot........That he was a professional football player!
So?He's averaged 16-17 points per game in a PPR league. Should I drop him because he let two balls hit him from behind?
Either that or we should officially welcome Kim Kardashian to the Shark Pool.
UGLY. I don't know what was going on there, maybe he didn't know the play call? Surprised it wasn't addressed in the local media.
Well considering this is thread asking about Bush's fantasy outlook
Anyway, he's worth WR2 in PPR but you're unlikely to get that in trade due to the level of distaste most people have for him (see above).
Please turn it way down and be much cooler if you'd like to keep posting here. Thanks.J
Because everyone has Reggie love, except for us true Saint fans who see that he hurts the team in a major way!I don't see Brees yelling at Colston on Dropped balls, or Henderson, or Moore, or even Shockey!First a no namer named Pierre comes in gets the job over him, then a journeyman named Bell comes in and takes it....then they look deeper and may start Lynell over him, so why will he not get the start, and if he is so good catchin the ball in a pass first offense, why does he still not start?You all can continue to hate, but facts cant be disputed and the Saints keep looking else where for help...Its only a matter of time people, a matter of time!But what do I know, I only eat, drink, and sleep Saints football!
To answer your question about what you're doing wrong - Be way less annoying. This is for real discussion. Not smack talk. J
But how does this negate the 17 pt average in a PPR league? It doesn't. Whether you like it or not, Bush is a part of the NO game plan. Is he the best RB on the field? Maybe, maybe not. BUT, there's no denying that he has value in PPR leagues, which is pretty much what has been said in this thread. Unless Bush is hurt, he'll be involved in the passing attack.
He's not an every down back. That much is clear. I'm pretty sure that much has been clear since his rookie year. Thomas didn't take Bush's job, he took Deuce's. Reggie Bush has a defined role in a high-flying offense. Bush is a decent play in PPR leagues. Saying Bush has no value in FFL is extreme hyperbole.
Me too, but I'm seeing quite a lot of value out of Reggie Bush that I think you are missing. Why? Because ISTM that opposing defenses are still selling out to stop Bush, overcommiting when he goes in motion, and so on. Bush really does open up things for his teammates.It seems to be a pride thing with a lot of NFL defenders ... it seems that more guys jump on the pile when Reggie goes down. I don't see any other offensive player in the league draw quite that level of "won't-let-you-beat-me" attention.
We all recognize that Bush is not an every-down RB in this league and struggles when asked to run between the tackles and move the chains.But he has a role in a great offense and I don't see that changing barring injury. If he catches 80 passes - in a PPR league that is valuable
Why do you think he's still getting so many red zone opportunities? The coaches must still see something in him.
What does ISTM mean? I usually know most of the acronyms, but that one escapes me.
ISTM = it seems to me.
Agreed on all fronts. The Saints are a better team with Reggie than without him (assuming this fumbling stuff doesn't continue). Its become clear he won't ever be the next big thing, but his speed and pass-catching ability will always draw attention from defenses. The guy had a lot of hype piled on him and he did dozens of commercials before proving a thing at the NFL level. As a result, it doesn't look like anyone is going to take it easy on him for a quite a while.
Don't really like that one for the guy who traded Bush.
Yuck. I'll hold.
Wow, can I play in your league?
