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Raiders starting TE will be? (1 Viewer)

Bri

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Marcellus Rivers or Courtney Anderson?

Rivers had about as many catches as Anderson in the second half of last season. Anderson had a sweet week 3 in 05 and otherwise their stats are pretty close.

 
I have been tracking Rivers for a while. He played ok in Houston last year. I think he has a decent chance to start, maybe not a fantasy force. But, he is a decent nfl te.

 
Marcellus Rivers or Courtney Anderson?

Rivers had about as many catches as Anderson in the second half of last season. Anderson had a sweet week 3 in 05 and otherwise their stats are pretty close.
Bri,Not much of a fan of Rivers. I recapped Week 15 vs. Arizona, and his 3 catches were unremarkable.

He did catch a bunch of balls down the stretch last season, but he doesn't do anything if and when he gets it. He caught 24 passes last year, same at Courtney Anderson. CA had 19 firsts, Rivers has just 9. That's bad.

Rivers averaged under 10 ypc last year, and has had only 2 seasons in 5 years with over 6 catches. Both of those he averaged below 10 ypc.

Anderson had a 12.6 yard average last season with 3 TDs. Rivers has had 2 TDs in the past 4 years.

Seems like an easy decision to me in Courtney Anderson - not that I'd be excited starting him on my fantasy team.

 
If you like long shots Randal Williams is your man.

Raiders | R. Williams challenging for starting roleSat, 20 May 2006 11:30:44 -0700Steve Corkran, writing for the Sporting News, reports Oakland Raiders TE Randal Williams has made serious strides towards challenging TE Courtney Anderson for the starting tight end job. He has added weight without losing much, if any, speed and has improved his blocking.
 
Marcellus Rivers or Courtney Anderson?

Rivers had about as many catches as Anderson in the second half of last season.  Anderson had a sweet week 3 in 05 and otherwise their stats are pretty close.
Bri,Not much of a fan of Rivers. I recapped Week 15 vs. Arizona, and his 3 catches were unremarkable.

He did catch a bunch of balls down the stretch last season, but he doesn't do anything if and when he gets it. He caught 24 passes last year, same at Courtney Anderson. CA had 19 firsts, Rivers has just 9. That's bad.

Rivers averaged under 10 ypc last year, and has had only 2 seasons in 5 years with over 6 catches. Both of those he averaged below 10 ypc.

Anderson had a 12.6 yard average last season with 3 TDs. Rivers has had 2 TDs in the past 4 years.

Seems like an easy decision to me in Courtney Anderson - not that I'd be excited starting him on my fantasy team.
Jeff, it is difficult to compare different players in different schemes/offenses. I think, with Shell, it might come down to blocking or other intangibles.Considering how feable HOU was at using the TE last year, it is difficult to fairly depict Rivers' talent on OAK. In the last 5 games of 1005, Rivers had 22 targets and he caught 17 of the passes. Jeff is right that the ypc was low, but the blame could just as easily be placed on the offense and not Rivers. But, I think catching 3.5 balls a game over the last 5 games is a step in the right direction for Rivers.

I see this as open competition and Rivers might surprise.

 
If you like long shots Randal Williams is your man.

Raiders | R. Williams challenging for starting role

Sat, 20 May 2006 11:30:44 -0700

Steve Corkran, writing for the Sporting News, reports Oakland Raiders TE Randal Williams has made serious strides towards challenging TE Courtney Anderson for the starting tight end job. He has added weight without losing much, if any, speed and has improved his blocking.
Interesting. Did he switch to TE? I see him on NFL.com as both a WR and a TE:Raiders Roster

Randal Williams

 
Marcellus Rivers or Courtney Anderson?

Rivers had about as many catches as Anderson in the second half of last season.  Anderson had a sweet week 3 in 05 and otherwise their stats are pretty close.
Bri,Not much of a fan of Rivers. I recapped Week 15 vs. Arizona, and his 3 catches were unremarkable.

He did catch a bunch of balls down the stretch last season, but he doesn't do anything if and when he gets it. He caught 24 passes last year, same at Courtney Anderson. CA had 19 firsts, Rivers has just 9. That's bad.

Rivers averaged under 10 ypc last year, and has had only 2 seasons in 5 years with over 6 catches. Both of those he averaged below 10 ypc.

Anderson had a 12.6 yard average last season with 3 TDs. Rivers has had 2 TDs in the past 4 years.

Seems like an easy decision to me in Courtney Anderson - not that I'd be excited starting him on my fantasy team.
Visanthe Shiancoe was a good young prospect with the Giants. Rivers' first couple years he was used on the GL and caught a couple TDs here and there. Otherwise he was stuck behind Shiancoe and Shockey really. Last year's second half was the first time he truly got to play as a starter(or not starter but the receiving TE) in his NFL career. I thought he showed something. Pathetically, but I suppose to his credit, his second half stats are the best production from a Texans TE since Miller's 40 catches in 2003.I guess we disagree here.

No doubt they're both "eh" but since one's gotta start is it worth a super late draft pick?

 
If you like long shots Randal Williams is your man.

Raiders | R. Williams challenging for starting role

Sat, 20 May 2006 11:30:44 -0700

Steve Corkran, writing for the Sporting News, reports Oakland Raiders TE Randal Williams has made serious strides towards challenging TE Courtney Anderson for the starting tight end job. He has added weight without losing much, if any, speed and has improved his blocking.
Can he block though?Teyo could catch and run a good route and look where he is now

 
If you like long shots Randal Williams is your man. 

Raiders | R. Williams challenging for starting role

Sat, 20 May 2006 11:30:44 -0700

Steve Corkran, writing for the Sporting News, reports Oakland Raiders TE Randal Williams has made serious strides towards challenging TE Courtney Anderson for the starting tight end job. He has added weight without losing much, if any, speed and has improved his blocking.
Interesting. Did he switch to TE? I see him on NFL.com as both a WR and a TE:Raiders Roster

Randal Williams
From his Raiders Bio
2004: Saw action in two games at wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys, caught one pass for 14 yards.
Don't know much about him. Just saw the blurb on KFFL so I added it. Mostly likely just camp hype.
 
Courtney Anderson will be the Man. He's my value pick at TE this year. His stats were so poor last year because the OL was terrible and he had to stay in and block. From the BloggerHopefully Shell, Slater and Eatman should get the OL playing better plus Gallery and Grove will have another year under their belts. Anderson is raw but has the size and ability to be a quality TE, Anderson's success will depend on Brooks, the offensive philosophy and the perfromance of the supporting cast.

 
Courtney Anderson will be the Man. He's my value pick at TE this year. His stats were so poor last year because the OL was terrible and he had to stay in and block. From the BloggerHopefully Shell, Slater and Eatman should get the OL playing better plus Gallery and Grove will have another year under their belts. Anderson is raw but has the size and ability to be a quality TE, Anderson's success will depend on Brooks, the offensive philosophy and the perfromance of the supporting cast.
Staying in to block was a big reason for his lack of production, but the other half was K.Collins. I went to a couple Raiders' games and have seen Anderson standing all alone, with nobody within 10-15 yards of him and near the 1st down marker while waving his arms and watching the ball fly 25 yards down the field to a well covered WR. I like Anderson this year as Brooks has shown that he is just as willing to throw to a TE as he is to a RB or WR. Another reason to believe that Brooks will do better in Oakland than Collins.

 
Courtney Anderson will be the Man. He's my value pick at TE this year. His stats were so poor last year because the OL was terrible and he had to stay in and block.  From the BloggerHopefully Shell, Slater and Eatman should get the OL playing better plus Gallery and Grove will have another year under their belts.  Anderson is raw but has the size and ability to be a quality TE, Anderson's success will depend on Brooks, the offensive philosophy and the perfromance of the supporting cast.
Staying in to block was a big reason for his lack of production, but the other half was K.Collins. I went to a couple Raiders' games and have seen Anderson standing all alone, with nobody within 10-15 yards of him and near the 1st down marker while waving his arms and watching the ball fly 25 yards down the field to a well covered WR. I like Anderson this year as Brooks has shown that he is just as willing to throw to a TE as he is to a RB or WR. Another reason to believe that Brooks will do better in Oakland than Collins.
Both are :goodposting: 'sOnce Shell gets the OL playing better, the TE will be able to run down the field more often instead of staying into block. Throw the Kerry Collins factor out the window from last year, and add Brooks, a mobile QB who doesn't always need to have everybody in blocking for him and you have created a good situation.

 
Anderson should win it, but if Williams continues to challenge, watch out for him. I recommend picking him up in all dynasty leagues with deep rosters (especially those that relax roster limits in the offseason) - as a converted WR, he'll be a very solid fantasy TE.

 
Anderson should win it, but if Williams continues to challenge, watch out for him. I recommend picking him up in all dynasty leagues with deep rosters (especially those that relax roster limits in the offseason) - as a converted WR, he'll be a very solid fantasy TE.
I was thinking that if any coach is gonna bench a TE for poor blocking it'd be Shell. Know what I mean? Please holler if you notice any good camp reports on his blocking improving
 
Bumping an old thread

Anderson seems a lock

Williams is eh at #2 and still considerred for special teams ace

Madsden seems the darkhorse candidate. Alex Smith claims he saw him do windmill and 360 dunks, true or not he seems like quite an athlete for TE.

Rivers and OJ seem like goners but Madsden could always go on PS if Shell feels like it. Not getting much positive vibe about Rivers.

And yet, I still think he's the best one on their roster

 
Williams made some nice catches, but Anderson looks like the starter at this point. More importantly, it seems like the TEs are being targetted a lot by Brooks - including two straight targets on 3rd and goal.

 
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Speaking of Raider TEs....

How did Ricky Dudley end up sucking so badly? :confused:

 

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