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Raise your hand if you think SJax will be out for most of year? (1 Viewer)

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I'm not a doctor and I've never played one on TV, in summer stock theater or elsewhere. But the medical information coming out of STL camp seems to be hazy at best re: SJax's return, and what we do read/hear is not positive (e.g. Rotoworld: "That he's been ruled out so quickly for Week 6 doesn't bode well for Jackson's chances to play in Week 7.")

So, do you honestly think SJax, even being the tough/team-centric competitor that he is, is going to rush back from a torn groin to join a likely 4-12/5-12 (at best) team and risk the rest of his career? I don't. Just me, but I can't shake the feeling that Leonard starts most of the remaining games for STL. Again, just my gut (and call this a dumb, speculative post if you want) but groins, whether partially or totally torn, are not easy injuries to recover from, especially for someone whose success depends on making quick, powerful cuts.

Thoughts? My apologies to Sjax owners, this is not to bum you out or rub salt in the wounds (I own him in one league)...

 
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nope... reminds me of last yr when Portis broke his hand and the team shut him down... I wouldn't be surprised if hes IR in the next 2 too 3

 
I think he's done for the year. The team isn't going to the playoffs, so why risk it?

Fragile Fred had a groin tear a few years back and was never the same.

 
I think you could see a situation where he is shut down by the team as well. Happened to McNabb and Westbrook a few years ago. When there is nothing to play for, these injuries tend to linger. The Rams are almost out of contention already.

 
I can see it happening. It's not like they need to rush the guy back to be playoff ready....They would have to bust off about 10 straight wins to qualify for the playoffs and that's not going to happen with Frerotte and that O-Line.

Can anyone guess how many Rams players were in street clothes this last week standing on the sideline? The count came in at 17. No team survives that and does anything.

Let Jax take his time coming back and get him some work in the last few games to make sure he's healthy and rarin to go for next year (and maybe win some games and keep Linehan's job)....

 
They will probably be 1-7 going into the bye (losses @ Balt and Sea, win vs. Cle), so I don't see much reason for them to bring SJax back unless he's 100% healthy.

Week 8 should be a great game for Leonard owners, the Browns run defense is beyond horrible.

 
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as soon as I heard 40% tear, this possibility entered my mind - I felt strongly enough about it to trade an 08 2nd for Leonard in my 16 team IDP dynasty.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
as soon as I heard 40% tear, this possibility entered my mind - I felt strongly enough about it to trade an 08 2nd for Leonard in my 16 team IDP dynasty.
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This sentence caught me as funny. We certainly talk a different language. Imagine explaining this sentence to your grandmother.
 
I think you're right, and a team's record does play into a timetable. The Lions' competitiveness is directly related to Kevin Jones' workload imo. If they were 0-5 and hopless, he'd be brought around much more slowly. But at 3-2 I think he's ready to lead them to a (hopeful) playoff run.

By the same token, the 0-5 Rams are not competing for a playoff spot. It makes no sense to rush Jackson back. If he does come back, he'll be brought along very slowly. There's no reason to risk further injury for nothing.

 
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It's possible, but I seriously doubt that anyone who has Jackson on their roster is going to drop him.

We've just got to wait and see.

Personally, I don't look for him to come back until after the bye week.

 
If the Rams lose a couple of more I think they will shut down JAX for the year..why risk it?

 
As the #1 Steven Jackson fan* in the world I can easily see the Rams using Steven in a very reserved role in the offense this year. The offensive line stinks, coach stinks, and defense stinks. Since Steven is so young and so talented there is really not much of a reason to risk permanent damage. He's a young 24 year old with a very bright future, but the short term may suffer. The team may as well get as many carries to Brian Leonard while keeping the load off Steven in a season that isn't going to bring many good memories. Their mindset could be focusing on the future and keeping Steven fresh for a season when the team has a chance to win some games.

Or he could come back in a week or two and be the workhorse that he was last year. :wall:

*: Went to Oregon State during Steven Jackson's time on campus and even had a class with the guy. Computer Science 101.

 
Cerwin said:
As the #1 Steven Jackson fan* in the world I can easily see the Rams using Steven in a very reserved role in the offense this year. The offensive line stinks, coach stinks, and defense stinks. Since Steven is so young and so talented there is really not much of a reason to risk permanent damage. He's a young 24 year old with a very bright future, but the short term may suffer. The team may as well get as many carries to Brian Leonard while keeping the load off Steven in a season that isn't going to bring many good memories. Their mindset could be focusing on the future and keeping Steven fresh for a season when the team has a chance to win some games. Or he could come back in a week or two and be the workhorse that he was last year. :goodposting: *: Went to Oregon State during Steven Jackson's time on campus and even had a class with the guy. Computer Science 101.
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He probably wouldn't have torn that groin so badly had he gone into data entry after graduation. :shrug:
 
I pulled my groin when running cross country in high school. If he has a tear I am guessing he will be out several weeks. If the Rams are out of centention he just may be shut down.

 
cstu said:
They will probably be 1-7 going into the bye (losses @ Balt and Sea, win vs. Cle), so I don't see much reason for them to bring SJax back unless he's 100% healthy.

Week 8 should be a great game for Leonard owners, the Browns run defense is beyond horrible.
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I don't see the Rams stopping the CLE passing game. I predict 0-8 going into the BYE.
 
Sorry to take this moment to stay on topic, but i found this of interest on the SJax situation. Enclosed is an excerpt from today's chat with Stl post dispatch writer Jim Thomas:

http://www.stltoday.com/discussions/sports.../LD10050781/all

Eric Schweiss: Good afternoon Jim!

Has anyone updated the health status of Steven Jackson? Is he 50% healed and is there a chance that he plays in the next week or two? He could be a stabilizing piece to this offense, even though he struggled out of the gate.

Thanks for your time and expertise.

Jim Thomas: Jackson has been ruled out for the Baltimore game. The Rams are becoming more and more guarded about giving information on injuries. Why I'm not sure. Linehan declined to put a timetable on his return Monday. When Jackson originally was injured, after the Tampa Bay game, Linehan would only refer to it as a week-to-week injury. Sources subsequently told me it was a 40 percent tear of the groin muscle with a minimum 2 to 3 week recovery time. Well, this makes 3 weeks. I will try to check with Jackson this week.

 
Best comments from Jim that still mean nothing:

Randall Dillman: Will Steven Jackson play this week and if not, when?

Jim Thomas: Jackson out this week. Could be another week or two as well.

Mitch Brian: 2-When is Steven Jackson scheduled to come back?

Jim Thomas:2.) Rams being secretive on Jackson. At the outset, my source told me a minimum of two to three weeks. I emphasize "minimum." We are now at three weeks. I don't have a firm answer for you, but I wouldn't be stunned if he didn't return until after the bye week.

Eric Schweiss: Good afternoon Jim!

Has anyone updated the health status of Steven Jackson? Is he 50% healed and is there a chance that he plays in the next week or two? He could be a stabilizing piece to this offense, even though he struggled out of the gate.

Thanks for your time and expertise.

Jim Thomas: Jackson has been ruled out for the Baltimore game. The Rams are becoming more and more guarded about giving information on injuries. Why I'm not sure. Linehan declined to put a timetable on his return Monday. When Jackson originally was injured, after the Tampa Bay game, Linehan would only refer to it as a week-to-week injury. Sources subsequently told me it was a 40 percent tear of the groin muscle with a minimum 2 to 3 week recovery time. Well, this makes 3 weeks. I will try to check with Jackson this week.

 
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I understand the comments about the team wanting to shut him down, but don't you think S-Jax, as a competitor, would want to get back on the field to show his skillz?

 
Groin tear is serious business, I knew when they announced that injury we wouldnt be seeing him back at any point in the first half of the season...if at all

 
My bet would be that he doesn't play until after the bye, but if he is healthy after that and not a risk to make the injury worse I think they play him, regardless of their record.

 
There's nothing that makes me feel he'll be back anytime before the bye.

Those of you that own him, are you trying to move him for something? What is his value or what price would you buy/sell him at?

 
Is it me or did Nike stop playing his segment of that "Leave it on the field" commercial too? Maybe they knew something already?

Sucks. He had a bright year in front of him.

 
what value does leonard have in fantasy leagues? Is he gonna end up like Turner when jackson gets back?

Any ideas?

 
hand-raised. :rolleyes: :clap:Sucks, im a fan too. Loved seeing him and merriman in the Nike ad.

 
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I'm not confident that Linehan will actually do what is best for the long term for this team. I can see him mortgaging the future. That is, playing Jackson before 100% recovery. While it may be a futile move football wise this year he may be concerned about losing his job. It will not be long after a 0-7 start that the boobirds start really making some noise around the gateway city. He may feel compelled to get something to show (ie. w's) to save his own hide.

 
He is done IMO.

Even he rushed back (it will take the whole year to truly recover from a 40% groin tear) he will not be effective at all. He is a very hard physical runner and he will not be able to do what he likes to do and that is run hard.

Just plain bad luck for you Jackson owners.

 
Bobcat10 said:
There's nothing that makes me feel he'll be back anytime before the bye. Those of you that own him, are you trying to move him for something? What is his value or what price would you buy/sell him at?
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I just got an offer of SA for him. After reading this litany of presumptive obituaries, I am seriously thinking about taking it.
 
sholditch said:
Bobcat10 said:
There's nothing that makes me feel he'll be back anytime before the bye. Those of you that own him, are you trying to move him for something? What is his value or what price would you buy/sell him at?
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I just got an offer of SA for him. After reading this litany of presumptive obituaries, I am seriously thinking about taking it.
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Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of Foster or MJD.
 
Bobcat10 said:
sholditch said:
Bobcat10 said:
There's nothing that makes me feel he'll be back anytime before the bye. Those of you that own him, are you trying to move him for something? What is his value or what price would you buy/sell him at?
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I just got an offer of SA for him. After reading this litany of presumptive obituaries, I am seriously thinking about taking it.
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Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of Foster or MJD.
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I've got an LJ for S-Jax offer on the table. I can't seem to pull the trigger. :thumbup:
 
I disagree. Linehan is a shaky HC at best, so the more wins he gets, the more likely he is to stave off being fired. I see one of those deals that every fan hates. Rams are crappy, but win enough games at the end of the year (with S Jax's help) to save Linehan's Job and screw them out of the player they really wanted int he draft.

 
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