Rams trying to make a move for Lloyd (1 Viewer)

[Hairy Snowman]

Rams could be making a play for Brandon Lloyd. Ramifications?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/15/rams-could-be-making-a-play-for-brandon-lloyd/

"Making such a deal make sense is the fact that the Rams don’t have much at the receiver position. Making such a deal seem like a stretch is the reality that trading for Lloyd won’t do much to keep the 0-4 Rams from sliding to 0-7 over the next 15 days, via games against the Packers, Cowboys, and Saints.

But here’s where Lloyd could make a difference. Once the schedule softens, Lloyd could help the offense score points, which could help the Rams win enough games to avoid a postseason housecleaning."

Hmmm.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Also, Clayton comes back week 8 ....

 

[Trizzler]

Did you type the word "Ramifications" with a smirk on your face?

 

[Wadsworth]

Also, Clayton comes back week 8 ....

And the Rams second half schedule is far more appealing fantasy wise...

 

[footballnerd]

Bradford is on the waivers in many leagues

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Did you type the word "Ramifications" with a smirk on your face?

Maybe.... We'll know by next Tuesday, but with Clayton and Lloyd, and Jackson running the ball... suddenly there is enough to at least keep defenses honest.I'm going to sleep on this and research a little while tomorrow. But, at first blush, seems like there could be something here. Definitely would help Jackson right away to have a deep threat.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

This seems like assumptive journalism. Obviously a team like the Rams may be interested for a third to fifth round pick but there is nothing that has come out stating the Rams are after him.

 

[DoubleG]

Rams could be making a play for Brandon Lloyd. Ramifications?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/15/rams-could-be-making-a-play-for-brandon-lloyd/

"Making such a deal make sense is the fact that the Rams don’t have much at the receiver position. Making such a deal seem like a stretch is the reality that trading for Lloyd won’t do much to keep the 0-4 Rams from sliding to 0-7 over the next 15 days, via games against the Packers, Cowboys, and Saints.

But here’s where Lloyd could make a difference. Once the schedule softens, Lloyd could help the offense score points, which could help the Rams win enough games to avoid a postseason housecleaning."

Hmmm.

The bolded is why it makes very little sense for the Rams. I could sooner see it from a team that feels that it has a chance to make the playoffs by adding a quality WR - like Tampa, Tennessee, maybe even the Bengals or Bears - heck with Morgan down, maybe even the 49ers - but this would make little sense for the Rams, imho.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Rams could be making a play for Brandon Lloyd. Ramifications?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/15/rams-could-be-making-a-play-for-brandon-lloyd/

"Making such a deal make sense is the fact that the Rams don’t have much at the receiver position. Making such a deal seem like a stretch is the reality that trading for Lloyd won’t do much to keep the 0-4 Rams from sliding to 0-7 over the next 15 days, via games against the Packers, Cowboys, and Saints.

But here’s where Lloyd could make a difference. Once the schedule softens, Lloyd could help the offense score points, which could help the Rams win enough games to avoid a postseason housecleaning."

Hmmm.

The bolded is why it makes very little sense for the Rams. I could sooner see it from a team that feels that it has a chance to make the playoffs by adding a quality WR - like Tampa, Tennessee, maybe even the Bengals or Bears - heck with Morgan down, maybe even the 49ers - but this would make little sense for the Rams, imho.

I think this is more about the GM and coaching staff sticking for more than this year. Its not alot to spend if the Rams can go 8-8 or 7-9, finish strong and resign Lloyd for next year. Then it makes sense.

On the other hand, if the Rams go 2-14 or 1-15, there is going to be a house cleaning in St Louis.

 

[bulger2holt]

Unless they are looking ahead to next year. I think I read Lloyd is a FA though. I was hoping the Rams would go 1-15 (0-16 is just too ugly) and win the Luck lottery and trade him for a modern day heist. The Rams have some good building blocks to build around. They aren't as far as their record indicates.

 

[DoubleG]

Rams could be making a play for Brandon Lloyd. Ramifications?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/15/rams-could-be-making-a-play-for-brandon-lloyd/

"Making such a deal make sense is the fact that the Rams don’t have much at the receiver position. Making such a deal seem like a stretch is the reality that trading for Lloyd won’t do much to keep the 0-4 Rams from sliding to 0-7 over the next 15 days, via games against the Packers, Cowboys, and Saints.

But here’s where Lloyd could make a difference. Once the schedule softens, Lloyd could help the offense score points, which could help the Rams win enough games to avoid a postseason housecleaning."

Hmmm.

The bolded is why it makes very little sense for the Rams. I could sooner see it from a team that feels that it has a chance to make the playoffs by adding a quality WR - like Tampa, Tennessee, maybe even the Bengals or Bears - heck with Morgan down, maybe even the 49ers - but this would make little sense for the Rams, imho.

I think this is more about the GM and coaching staff sticking for more than this year. Its not alot to spend if the Rams can go 8-8 or 7-9, finish strong and resign Lloyd for next year. Then it makes sense.

On the other hand, if the Rams go 2-14 or 1-15, there is going to be a house cleaning in St Louis.

I'm not trying to be rude or burst your bubble or anything (heck, I like the Rams) - but I don't think adding Lloyd is going to take them from 0-7 to going 7-2 over the last 9, even with an easier schedule in the 2nd part of the season. Lloyd might help bring them to 4-12 or even 5-11, but if they go 0-7, they aint making 8-8. Sorry.

 

[bexdawg]

I believe this trade makes the most sense of happening and here's why...

1. McDaniels has a proven track record with Lloyd. Lloyd has been with four teams and at least that many OC's and McDaniels has been the only one to unlock Lloyd's potential in the NFL. Devaney (Rams GM) has to be one of the most confident GM's in the league if McDaniels OKs Lloyd.

2. Bradford is the Rams franchise QB, and he is dying on the vine due to his receivers play. Even if it is just for 9 games Lloyd could help Bradford can confidence and help him take that next step.

3. It is a bit of fan boost to help a terrible season.

 

[footballnerd]

I believe this trade makes the most sense of happening and here's why...1. McDaniels has a proven track record with Lloyd. Lloyd has been with four teams and at least that many OC's and McDaniels has been the only one to unlock Lloyd's potential in the NFL.

 

[lazyike]

As a Lloyd owner this would be the best possible scenario to go to an offense he would understand with McDaniels and with an improvment at QB.

 

[DoubleG]

I believe this trade makes the most sense of happening and here's why...1. McDaniels has a proven track record with Lloyd. Lloyd has been with four teams and at least that many OC's and McDaniels has been the only one to unlock Lloyd's potential in the NFL. Devaney (Rams GM) has to be one of the most confident GM's in the league if McDaniels OKs Lloyd.2. Bradford is the Rams franchise QB, and he is dying on the vine due to his receivers play. Even if it is just for 9 games Lloyd could help Bradford can confidence and help him take that next step.3. It is a bit of fan boost to help a terrible season.

Point #1 I certainly agree with strongly. 2 & 3 - not so much. IMHO #2 has less to do with the WRs and more to do with Bradford himself. They brought in MSW (Clayton is hurt, but coming back), Gibson is decent and DX when healthy (which he has been - relatively speaking) is a solid contributer. I think Bradford simply needs time to get comfortable in the offense and with his WRs (many of whom are relatively new to him). Granted I haven't watched a ton of the Rams, but the couple of times I did, their WRs looked decent enough (keep in mind this is also coming from a BEARS fan )I also think point 3, while it could be argued, is more a matter of which fans you're asking.

 

[Gopher State]

I think Tenn will outbid the Rams for Lloyd, Rams are going no wear and why throw away pick on a FA, when you have no shot to make the playoffs, plus clayton will be back soon

 

[Dought Man]

Imagine the potential for garbage 2nd half points, as the Rams are down 31-7? It would be like last year part deux for Lloyd.

 

[drfeelgood]

I think Tenn will outbid the Rams for Lloyd, Rams are going no wear and why throw away pick on a FA, when you have no shot to make the playoffs, plus clayton will be back soon

Clayton hasn't played in a football game in about a year, and I would think isn't in football shape. Lloyd still has some good years left in him, and a team may want him as more than just a plug in this year.

 

[cvnpoka]

I think Tenn will outbid the Rams for Lloyd, Rams are going no wear and why throw away pick on a FA, when you have no shot to make the playoffs, plus clayton will be back soon

Clayton hasn't played in a football game in about a year, and I would think isn't in football shape. Lloyd still has some good years left in him, and a team may want him as more than just a plug in this year.

lloyd is a free agent after this year, so i would imagine they would have have a new contract in place before committing to sacrificing some picks.

 

[Balco]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

 

[bulger2holt]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

This Rams homer agrees

 

[bexdawg]

I agree Bradford needs more time in the offense, however his receivers have drop 17 passes over 4 games. 17 drops leads the league with most other teams having played 5 games. Rams have clearly the worst receivers in the league up to this point.

I believe this trade makes the most sense of happening and here's why...1. McDaniels has a proven track record with Lloyd. Lloyd has been with four teams and at least that many OC's and McDaniels has been the only one to unlock Lloyd's potential in the NFL. Devaney (Rams GM) has to be one of the most confident GM's in the league if McDaniels OKs Lloyd.2. Bradford is the Rams franchise QB, and he is dying on the vine due to his receivers play. Even if it is just for 9 games Lloyd could help Bradford can confidence and help him take that next step.3. It is a bit of fan boost to help a terrible season.

Point #1 I certainly agree with strongly. 2 & 3 - not so much. IMHO #2 has less to do with the WRs and more to do with Bradford himself. They brought in MSW (Clayton is hurt, but coming back), Gibson is decent and DX when healthy (which he has been - relatively speaking) is a solid contributer. I think Bradford simply needs time to get comfortable in the offense and with his WRs (many of whom are relatively new to him). Granted I haven't watched a ton of the Rams, but the couple of times I did, their WRs looked decent enough (keep in mind this is also coming from a BEARS fan )I also think point 3, while it could be argued, is more a matter of which fans you're asking.

 

[todisco1]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

Mentioned above, the coaches may want to try and remain competitive so they can stick around. Lloyd helps them in that regard.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

This Rams homer agrees

You're being ridiculous. You shouldn't want your franchise qb to fall apart because he has no weapons. If you can help your young franchise qb continue to grow then why wouldn't you dump a draft pick that will likely bust anyhow?

 

[bulger2holt]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

This Rams homer agrees

You're being ridiculous. You shouldn't want your franchise qb to fall apart because he has no weapons. If you can help your young franchise qb continue to grow then why wouldn't you dump a draft pick that will likely bust anyhow?

Unless trading for Lloyd somehow causes the o-line to block better, I am not sure how he is going to help. Bradford is getting very little time to throw. The only hope for the Rams is to win the Luck lottery and trade him for a multitude of picks.

 

[TS Garp]

My guess is that they still think they can win this season, despite the fact that there's a 99% chance they'll be 0-5 after today. If they can split against Dallas and NO, they have a relatively soft run (@AZ, @CLE, SEA, AZ, @SF, @SEA, CIN). Then they finish @PITT and at home against SF. They'd have to go on an amazing run but you never know. Maybe they feel that it's possible and that SF will come back down to earth. It's nice to see them trying to win and if the pick they give up isn't too high, I think it's worth it.

 

[bulger2holt]

Plus, Lloyd is 30 and is a f/a. The Rams need to keep their picks and keep building. Next year is the last year they are salary cap hell. They will have tons of money available after next year. I have read close to 40 million.

 

[bulger2holt]

My guess is that they still think they can win this season, despite the fact that there's a 99% chance they'll be 0-5 after today. If they can split against Dallas and NO, they have a relatively soft run (@AZ, @CLE, SEA, AZ, @SF, @SEA, CIN). Then they finish @PITT and at home against SF. They'd have to go on an amazing run but you never know. Maybe they feel that it's possible and that SF will come back down to earth. It's nice to see them trying to win and if the pick they give up isn't too high, I think it's worth it.

Nothing is soft for the Rams this year. They have lost their #1,2 and 3 CB's for the year and DT Robbins is not playing nearly as good as last year in the middle. They can't stop the run or the pass. 0-16 is a real possibility.

 

[bulger2holt]

The Rams now have one of the wealthiest owners in pro sports. He will not sit back and let this team suck any longer. You are seeing the last year or two of the suckage from the Rams. They have building blocks in place, lots of cap money coming and a multi billion dollar owner and a franchise QB.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

From Rotoworld:

According to Fox Sports' Jay Glazer, the Patriots, Rams, and 49ers are the three teams most interested in dealing for Brandon Lloyd.

Related: 49ers, Patriots, Rams

Source: NFL on Fox on Twitter

Oct 16 - 12:26 PM

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Would be a terrible move. The Rams are 0-4, have a tough stretch coming up, and won't sniff the playoffs. Even given up a 5th round pick for Lloyd would be dumb. If they want him, they can sign him in the offseason as he is an UFA.

This Rams homer agrees

You're being ridiculous. You shouldn't want your franchise qb to fall apart because he has no weapons. If you can help your young franchise qb continue to grow then why wouldn't you dump a draft pick that will likely bust anyhow?

Unless trading for Lloyd somehow causes the o-line to block better, I am not sure how he is going to help. Bradford is getting very little time to throw. The only hope for the Rams is to win the Luck lottery and trade him for a multitude of picks.

Your team has had a bye week and the receivers still lead the league in drops. That's really, really bad. It's worse than that. It's awful. Brandon Lloyd has 1 drop this season. I understand you want a good pick. But you guys will draft a good player if you have a decent GM. A quarterback is the most important piece of a team. So why wouldn't you want to give your 2nd year quarterback a guy who will continue to help him develop? Your current wr's are absolutely killing this kid.

 

[bulger2holt]

Lloyd, "please, please not the Rams"

LOL

 

[ponchsox]

Patriots in on Lloyd:

According to Fox Sports' Jay Glazer, the Patriots, Rams, and 49ers are the three teams most interested in dealing for Brandon Lloyd.

This confirms a Profootballtalk report that the Rams are preparing a trade offer. Lloyd would step in immediately as the best receiver in St. Louis or San Francisco. The winless Rams would look to sign him to a long-term deal whereas the Niners and Pats may just view him as a short-term rental for the rest of the season. Broncos fans should be expecting a fourth-round pick in return.

Source: NFL on Fox on Twitter

Oct 16 - 12:26 PM

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I'm almost positive Lloyd is a FA after 2012. I could be wrong.

 

[LittlePhatty]

I'm almost positive Lloyd is a FA after 2012. I could be wrong.

He's a free agent after this season. That's what it says in the article linked in the first post.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Just to take note of those people who thought this would either not happen or it was a dumb move.

To Mods - can we consolidate all of these threads somehow?