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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

50 degrees and steady rain = first time I bundled up in god knows how long. I kept it totally calm today and ran the 3.25 @ 8:43 avg. I really wonder if the 8:45 pace is going to be the sweet spot or not when I run the HM. Every time I have a run in that range, it seems like I could go all day. It'd be faster than my 2hr goal, but who knows?

I'm having a fantastic training week so far. Here's to having a successful 4 & 9 over the weekend. :crossesfingers:

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Nigel said:
I also envy IK's mental toughness. The entiety of my long runs is spent thinking about when thit will be over, and I know that's not a good thing.
"Mental toughness" isn't really the right term. Running slow/comfortable for long distances isn't that hard, even if you're tired at the end. It's just that you're out there for a long time and the boredom makes it feel worse than what it really is. I'm sure a big part of the reason why it feels easier to run on race day is because of all the sources of stimulus you're surrounded by: a new course, the spectators, the runners you're passing or being passed by, the hottie in the running bra who you stay 20 ft. behind for half the race, etc. I think I just have a relatively easy time letting my mind wander and not getting bored as badly as other people do. It's more of a personality trait than anything I've developed, but it does happen to fit with distance running.
I am good at the mind wandering thing as well. I could go until I drop but I am not very fast. Distance for me is not an issue. The speed (slow) I go is an issue.
 
Did you really just refer to running at 7.5 minutes/mile for 2 hours as "so slowly"??

1) :finger: (usually reserved for tri-man, but you earned that one pal!)

2) This highlights a dramatic difference in our summer training & results. 16 at 8.5/mile would be a real challenge for me. You're going way faster and apparently doing it with less effort. And I don't think we started the year in significantly different conditioning. My recent health issues aside (I'll see in a few weeks if that is really a factor or not, once we get a freeze or two) that's amazing. And worth some further thought on my part.

3) I'm not ready to bail on FIRST yet - their studies contradict what you observed regarding the marathon distance. Tho I agree with you that it's a great plan for triathletes (which will be my focus next year). Gruecd is sharing the Pfitz stuff with me so I'll take a look and decide my training plan once I lay out all of my race goals for next year.

4) When you really cut down to it, my biggest problem when it comes to the marathon is that I don't think I believe I can run the whole thing. I've tried 6 times, and not come very close. I get out there and all kinds of negative thoughts pop into my head. And sure enough, I find myself walking. Even when I've trained through 20 miler after 20 miler, I choke on race day. And that's a mental problem.

So my plan for the marathon distance is simply to run slower. If I can get through the distance, at 10 min/miles or whatever, I will have some success to start building my confidence on. I don't care if it's going out on my own and running 26 miles just to DO it, but if I'm going to run marathons in the future, the next one has to accomplish this.
LOL - I meant to say two-hour, 12-mile run. My bad! My easy pace is around 9:30, not 7:30! Didn't mean to overstate my results. Also, don't forget that running is all I got. I am a terrible swimmer, and don't even own a real bike right now. That being said, I was a good runner in high school who never came close to working hard enough to reach my full potential, and I pushed myself pretty hard this summer to finally try to achieve my best. Other than those 3 weeks in June when I was hurt, I've run 5 days every week since the start of May with only 2 or 3 missed workouts. During that time, I've become a huge believer that the best way to train for distance running is to run very high mileage at a comfortable pace, sprinkling in a very small percentage of miles (less than 10 percent per week) at a very fast pace. I've averaged 40 mpw for the last 6 weeks and am really looking forward to pushing that number up to 50 in the next training cycle.

Switching topics, I've developed what I guess is a slight hamstring strain. It's at the back of my thigh near the top of my hammy. Any good stretches for that area? The standard toe touch stretches the hamstring behind my knee, but I don't really feel it in the back of my thigh. It's in one very specific spot, and feels almost as much like a cramp as a strain.

 
My last run before Sunday's marathon was this AM. It was OK but I'm definitely looking towards Sunday with some trepidation. My wife is more excited than I am, she's looking forward to a mini-vacation in Rhode Island.

Thanks all for answering all my questions during this process, it was especially helpful to read about the other marathoners' experiences. Good luck to the rest of you that are racing this weekend!

 
D_House said:
My last run before Sunday's marathon was this AM. It was OK but I'm definitely looking towards Sunday with some trepidation. My wife is more excited than I am, she's looking forward to a mini-vacation in Rhode Island. Thanks all for answering all my questions during this process, it was especially helpful to read about the other marathoners' experiences. Good luck to the rest of you that are racing this weekend!
Good luck D_house. Have a great race!
 
11 miler this AM with 4 recovery miles tomorrow and my final 20 miler on Sunday before (mercifully) beginning my pre-NYC marathon taper. My body feels less beat up this week than the past few weeks.

 
11 miler this AM with 4 recovery miles tomorrow and my final 20 miler on Sunday before (mercifully) beginning my pre-NYC marathon taper. My body feels less beat up this week than the past few weeks.
This morning was one of the very first times in the last 4 months when I have felt just so done with this. It was actually a little uncomfortably cold, and it was dark, and I just wanted to read the paper and drink coffee. But I went out and grinded through 5 easy miles. Garmin battery was dead, which made it easier to focus on running comfortably and nursing my sore hamstring.I know my enthusiasm will come back over the next couple of weeks, but I am ready for my life not to be ruled by a training schedule. Got a final 4 at Goal Pace tomorrow, 12 on Sunday, and then it gets easier and easier until race day.
 
Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal? How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!

 
It's AWESOME to see how many miles are pouring in with the cooler weather, and longer races planned :goodposting:

I just returned from a trip to St. Louis and had a really nice run yesterday. I had 1.5 hours between meetings, and ran up to room and laced my shoes up. I figured I had less than 45 minutes to run, and knew I was approx. 1 mile from "The Arch." I decided to have my warm-up/cool-down be to and from the arch, and to run three fairly hard miles in the arch-park. I ran the three miles in 7:19, 7:18 and 7:15, with the warm-up and down miles both below 9:00 p/m while dodging traffic. My legs felt really good, and the sub 65 degree weather felt awesome. Today I have a fairly ez swim planned (100, 400, 1200, 400, 100), and will still be one workout behind after it's completed (14 through 15 days).

 
It's AWESOME to see how many miles are pouring in with the cooler weather, and longer races planned :shrug: I just returned from a trip to St. Louis and had a really nice run yesterday. I had 1.5 hours between meetings, and ran up to room and laced my shoes up. I figured I had less than 45 minutes to run, and knew I was approx. 1 mile from "The Arch." I decided to have my warm-up/cool-down be to and from the arch, and to run three fairly hard miles in the arch-park. I ran the three miles in 7:19, 7:18 and 7:15, with the warm-up and down miles both below 9:00 p/m while dodging traffic. My legs felt really good, and the sub 65 degree weather felt awesome. Today I have a fairly ez swim planned (100, 400, 1200, 400, 100), and will still be one workout behind after it's completed (14 through 15 days).
That sounds awesome. :shrug:
 
It's AWESOME to see how many miles are pouring in with the cooler weather, and longer races planned :bag:
:lmao:Tried to run Wednesday and make it a tenth of a mile before my calf gave out. I've given up on running a 10k next month and my half mary in February is looking pretty bleak, as well.
 
Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal?
For me, I love pizza the night before a race. The main thing is to not eat too much and get bloated. Lots of water the day before anything longer than a 10K Pre-race meal = the same breakfast bar I eat every other day + coffee. Nothing new on race day.

How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!
I like to get there an hour or so early so I don't feel rushed. For a half, I'll do a one mile warmup of easy jogging finishing with some strides at 10K pace. For a 10K or 5K I would do something similar but with faster strides and with my "jogging" being closer to a normal running pace. I want to be sure to have to time to do this and then hit the portapotties afterward before I have to line up.Sand -- :lmao:

 
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Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal? How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!
I'll do my heavier carb-loading two nights before the race (and then a full breakfast the day before). That's the food that really fuels you. The night before is a moderate meal, earlier in the evening, that allows me to be 'regular' on race morning. For a longer race, like a HM, I'll have a similar breakfast as you early in the morning, then possibly a little something before the race (banana, gel, or bar). For a HM, I'd warm-up with up to a mile of light running and a few accelerations. I've even warmed up by taking my bike out for a couple easy miles - the main goal of any warm-up being for me to loosen up the hip rotation.Have a great race! "File" a race report afterwards!!

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Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.

 
10-14: 20 mile ride in the studio, 3.31 mile run @ 9:15, 139 hr in the dark and cold!!!

10-15: 3.1 mi run @ 8'42", 140 hr. Unfortunately this included a 30-45 second walk break to dry heave. The abdominal pain hit me hard. This time lower left and upper right. Tried to run thru it but the a small hill did me in. Kind of bummed because I was motoring along at an 8'15" pace with my hr around 140 in the crisp late morning air.

Getting scoped on both ends next Wed. Probably pissing away another 4 digits. After that the docs will be out of options and will have to actually listen to me about what's going on. right now they're just plowing through protocal.

16 runs in 15 days done.

 
Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal?
For me, I love pizza the night before a race. The main thing is to not eat too much and get bloated. Lots of water the day before anything longer than a 10K Pre-race meal = the same breakfast bar I eat every other day + coffee. Nothing new on race day.

How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!
I like to get there an hour or so early so I don't feel rushed. For a half, I'll do a one mile warmup of easy jogging finishing with some strides at 10K pace. For a 10K or 5K I would do something similar but with faster strides and with my "jogging" being closer to a normal running pace. I want to be sure to have to time to do this and then hit the portapotties afterward before I have to line up.Sand -- :unsure:
You da pizza man. I'd be so dehydrated and even more full of crap than usual.
 
Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.
I am backing off. Three weeks off at this point. I don't think it is the "heart attack" and I am probably going to a sports doc next week.Funny enough it feels absolutely fine biking and swimming. So biking and swimming it is (at least for now).

 
D_House said:
My last run before Sunday's marathon was this AM. It was OK but I'm definitely looking towards Sunday with some trepidation. My wife is more excited than I am, she's looking forward to a mini-vacation in Rhode Island. Thanks all for answering all my questions during this process, it was especially helpful to read about the other marathoners' experiences. Good luck to the rest of you that are racing this weekend!
Good luck & have fun. Wear your finisher medal to work on Monday!!! Its is a great "what did you do this weekend" conversation starter.
 
Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.
I am backing off. Three weeks off at this point. I don't think it is the "heart attack" and I am probably going to a sports doc next week.Funny enough it feels absolutely fine biking and swimming. So biking and swimming it is (at least for now).
Interesting that it doesn't both you on the bike. Definitely take it easy and heal up. I'd bet your February race is still in the cards.

 
I think I just have a relatively easy time letting my mind wander and not getting bored as badly as other people do. It's more of a personality trait than anything I've developed, but it does happen to fit with distance running.
I think this is spot on. I'm a self-conscious person by nature (sometimes painfully so), which does not lend itself well to mind-wandering during long runs. Not sure there's much I can do about it.
mind wanderer here. i get bored after a while too. not so much tired as done talking to myself :rant:
 
Did you really just refer to running at 7.5 minutes/mile for 2 hours as "so slowly"??
LOL - I meant to say two-hour, 12-mile run. My bad! My easy pace is around 9:30, not 7:30! Didn't mean to overstate my results. Also, don't forget that running is all I got. I am a terrible swimmer, and don't even own a real bike right now. That being said, I was a good runner in high school who never came close to working hard enough to reach my full potential, and I pushed myself pretty hard this summer to finally try to achieve my best. Other than those 3 weeks in June when I was hurt, I've run 5 days every week since the start of May with only 2 or 3 missed workouts. During that time, I've become a huge believer that the best way to train for distance running is to run very high mileage at a comfortable pace, sprinkling in a very small percentage of miles (less than 10 percent per week) at a very fast pace. I've averaged 40 mpw for the last 6 weeks and am really looking forward to pushing that number up to 50 in the next training cycle.

Switching topics, I've developed what I guess is a slight hamstring strain. It's at the back of my thigh near the top of my hammy. Any good stretches for that area? The standard toe touch stretches the hamstring behind my knee, but I don't really feel it in the back of my thigh. It's in one very specific spot, and feels almost as much like a cramp as a strain.
Do you think a foam roller might help your hammy? :lmao: What a difference one little number makes! You have no idea how that f#$ked with my psyche over the past 24 hours!! Anyway I think you've definitely made huge strides forward this summer. :ptts:

I took advantage of the cool weather (where was this 5 days ago?!?) and did a 20 mile bike ride at noon today. I didn't push myself or anything - just wanted to ride and let the legs work a bit. I think I'm going to do my run tomorrow on the trail to enjoy fall while I can.

 
Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.
I am backing off. Three weeks off at this point. I don't think it is the "heart attack" and I am probably going to a sports doc next week.Funny enough it feels absolutely fine biking and swimming. So biking and swimming it is (at least for now).
Even if you don't have the exact symptoms of the calf heart attack, look in to the concept of the medicinal run for recovery. I came back very fast from my last calf issues very fast and I credit this, in part to these types of runs. As important, was the calf sleeves.
 
D_House said:
My last run before Sunday's marathon was this AM. It was OK but I'm definitely looking towards Sunday with some trepidation. My wife is more excited than I am, she's looking forward to a mini-vacation in Rhode Island. Thanks all for answering all my questions during this process, it was especially helpful to read about the other marathoners' experiences. Good luck to the rest of you that are racing this weekend!
Good luck & have fun. Wear your finisher medal to work on Monday!!! Its is a great "what did you do this weekend" conversation starter.
:unsure:Don't forget to savor the feeling when you cross the finish line.
 
Whassup, kiddos?!

Recovery going well. Did an easy 5 yesterday morning, and just got done with 8 at 7:47 pace. Legs still feel kinda heavy, but not bad. Helping with registration tomorrow morning at a local 5K, then heading out for another easy 8-10 on the trail. Heading up to Lambeau on Sunday for Packers/Dolphins.

Good luck to all the racers this weekend. Can't wait to see how you all do!!!!!!!!

 
Went to the pre-op appointment today. After reading everyone's updates, I can't wait to get running again. I am hoping to start around the first of December.

Good luck to racers, and I eagerly await your race reports. I must run vicariously through you.

 
2Young2BBald said:
Sand said:
Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.
I am backing off. Three weeks off at this point. I don't think it is the "heart attack" and I am probably going to a sports doc next week.Funny enough it feels absolutely fine biking and swimming. So biking and swimming it is (at least for now).
Even if you don't have the exact symptoms of the calf heart attack, look in to the concept of the medicinal run for recovery. I came back very fast from my last calf issues very fast and I credit this, in part to these types of runs. As important, was the calf sleeves.
Yeah - Next Wed. I am going to start that process. Looks like a solid way to go.
 
Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal? How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!
I'll do my heavier carb-loading two nights before the race (and then a full breakfast the day before). That's the food that really fuels you. The night before is a moderate meal, earlier in the evening, that allows me to be 'regular' on race morning. For a longer race, like a HM, I'll have a similar breakfast as you early in the morning, then possibly a little something before the race (banana, gel, or bar). For a HM, I'd warm-up with up to a mile of light running and a few accelerations. I've even warmed up by taking my bike out for a couple easy miles - the main goal of any warm-up being for me to loosen up the hip rotation.Have a great race! "File" a race report afterwards!!

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Sand - yeah, you need to watch it with that calf. As I had to do, back off and be patient. You can be fine by February (or much earlier). I was way-laid for about six weeks. Google "calf heart attack" - I used the site's advice, and it seemed to work well.
Thanks for the replies Ivan and Tri-Man! Actually, Thanks to everyone that posts in this thread. It's incredibly motivating to read what everyone is doing in here. I'll try to get in a race report in next week.
 
:homer: good luck this weekend guys!

:rolleyes: I need to get into another race soon. Just haven't taken the time as our weekends are packed.

 
Lot's of races this weekend. Just wondering what the "pre-game ritual" is for everyone? What is dinner the night before and the pre-race meal? How early do you get to the starting line and how much of a warm up do you do? I'm running the Long Beach 1/2 marathon this Sunday and have about an hour drive so I will be hydrating all the way plus bananas and oatmeal for breakfast about 5am. Best of luck to you all!
:welcome: I don't know if you've been posting in this thread or not. If not, welcome. If so, please excuse my addled brain.
 
One more "Good Luck!" to all of the racers this weekend!

Drove a couple of miles to the crushed gravel trail and did 2 loops for 11 miles, all on the trail through the woods. I've never done that before and it was AWESOME! Considering the marathon was only 6 days ago, I'm really feeling good. Total time was 1:39:30 (9:03s), but the first loop was at 9:18s and the second was at 8:45s. I just felt strong and kept building speed through the finish.

Temp was about 50 degrees when I finished - what a difference compared to the heat last weekend!!

 
PMB in at 3:17:38!!!

Great job, my friend. I'm guessing you're one more marathon away from a Boston qualifier. Congrats on the PR!!!!

 
One more "Good Luck!" to all of the racers this weekend!

Drove a couple of miles to the crushed gravel trail and did 2 loops for 11 miles, all on the trail through the woods. I've never done that before and it was AWESOME! Considering the marathon was only 6 days ago, I'm really feeling good. Total time was 1:39:30 (9:03s), but the first loop was at 9:18s and the second was at 8:45s. I just felt strong and kept building speed through the finish.

Temp was about 50 degrees when I finished - what a difference compared to the heat last weekend!!
Nice run this morning, wraith!I headed out to the trail, too, after helping with registration at our local 5K. I ran 8 at what felt like a relaxed pace but ended up averaging 7:39s. Too fast for 6 days post-marathon, but it felt fairly easy. My right hip is a little sore, but I noticed that my right foot is rotating outward a little bit, so I'm probably just out of alignment. I'll call my PT guy on Monday so I can have him straighten that out.

Heading up to Lambeau tomorrow morning for Packers/Dolphins, but I'll try to do an easy little 4-miler before heading out.

 
I'm almost to where I can run a 5k now.

I know that doesn't sound like much to most of you but 3 years ago I quit smoking (2.5 packs a day for 14 years) and 14 months ago, I was a heavy drinker and weighed 280 lbs. I literally couldn't run 50 yards without stopping. Now I'm down to a fairly solid 205 lbs and have managed to get a lot of my lungs back. I honestly never dreamed that I would run a mile let alone the 3.35 I ran the other day.

 
PMB in at 3:17:38!!!
Wow. First report of the weekend is spectacular. Great effort PMB. You obviously crushed it.
I'm almost to where I can run a 5k now.

I know that doesn't sound like much to most of you but 3 years ago I quit smoking (2.5 packs a day for 14 years) and 14 months ago, I was a heavy drinker and weighed 280 lbs. I literally couldn't run 50 yards without stopping. Now I'm down to a fairly solid 205 lbs and have managed to get a lot of my lungs back. I honestly never dreamed that I would run a mile let alone the 3.35 I ran the other day.
And just as good of a result here. 75 lbs. off - damn dude that is impressive. Keep at it - the road just gets easier and better!----

On my end I went on a bike ride this morning. I waited until 11am or so since it was freaking 40 degrees this morning. In any case I had no calf issues (biking doesn't bother them - no idea why). Averaged 233 watts during the ride. I'm pleased with that.

Some exercises and a medicinal run/walk session on tap for later on today.

 
PMB in at 3:17:38!!!

Great job, my friend. I'm guessing you're one more marathon away from a Boston qualifier. Congrats on the PR!!!!
Awesome stuff here. :ph34r:
I'm almost to where I can run a 5k now.

I know that doesn't sound like much to most of you but 3 years ago I quit smoking (2.5 packs a day for 14 years) and 14 months ago, I was a heavy drinker and weighed 280 lbs. I literally couldn't run 50 yards without stopping. Now I'm down to a fairly solid 205 lbs and have managed to get a lot of my lungs back. I honestly never dreamed that I would run a mile let alone the 3.35 I ran the other day.
;) Congratulations on dropping the weight, quitting smoking, and your newfound fitness. Once you reach the point where you can run 3-4 miles comfortably, running becomes a lot easier and much more fun. And obviously its a great way to keep the weight off.

 
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Good run this morning, decided I'd see what I could do for a 10k around here (hills!)

1: 7:18

2: 7:02

3: 8:03 (hills started here)

4: 7:46

5: 7:51

6: 7:24

6.2: 47:02

7: 9:02 (hit the wooden trail for a mile)

8: 7:19

:unsure:

 
I'm almost to where I can run a 5k now.I know that doesn't sound like much to most of you but 3 years ago I quit smoking (2.5 packs a day for 14 years) and 14 months ago, I was a heavy drinker and weighed 280 lbs. I literally couldn't run 50 yards without stopping. Now I'm down to a fairly solid 205 lbs and have managed to get a lot of my lungs back. I honestly never dreamed that I would run a mile let alone the 3.35 I ran the other day.
I know exactly how you feel. 10 years ago I was a 2.5 pack a day smoker. 4 years ago I weighed in at about 400 pounds. Congratulations for making it. Your life may never be the same.
 

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