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Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)
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Darrinll40
Footballguy
I just hope you are staying away from those "bad" sandwiches. Your scary when you have one.I went out for an easy 2 miles this afternoon, averaged 10:18. After my second run in the Chase my legs, especially around the knees, were killing me. That is probably why I had so much trouble with the third leg. On the way home they still hurt so much that I would have had trouble driving from Sand's place if the vehicle had not had cruise control. They felt better today so I wanted to see if it was going to be an issue going forward. I am happy to say that I had no leg issues. The 84 degrees and 80% humidity not feel too good though. I plan two mile runs tomorrow and Thursday, with 4 or 5 on Saturday.
Dexter
Footballguy
That got out of hand quick.
Darrinll40
Footballguy
Nah, I thought it was hilarious. You two play off each other very well, you are obviously close friends.That got out of hand quick.
Sand
Footballguy
Well he would have remembered if he was a witness to your trash talking proficiency. A masterful art you have acquired.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Sounds good! I hope you achieve it. All I would suggest is to target the HR for, say the 10, 15, and 20 mile point, rather than the pace. If you could get to 10 miles with that 160 rate, then you take some confidence into the next ten miles even if the HR starts to creep up. I.e., achieving an 8 m/m pace with a HR that's too high could be self-defeating. If you need to go 8:10-20 early on to keep the HR where you want it, that might be a good move! FWIW You know your training and what works, so I'll anticipate an excellent race!!!'SteelCurtain said:
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Bourbon Chase Race Report
Had a moment driving home from work today where I thought that, if this thread had not been started, I wondered if I would have ever run a marathon, done a triathlon and no doubt, I would have never been part of a 200 mile relay. Its really quite amazing what a bunch of guys "from the internet" have motivated me to do. As the guys on the team could probably sense and I will admit now, I was totally intimidated by the assignment I was given. Getting the 5th most difficult assignment had me questioning WTF I had gotten myself in to, especially among such true running pros (and knowing that if I was slowed it stood between us and free drinks).
Had a great drive down catching up with Mini. Since he doesn't post here (so it won't go to his head), I can post that I am very lucky my sister married such a great kid. Awesome athlete, father and Uncle (role model) to my kids. Loved Wriath's Mom's place. Seriously picture postcard everywhere you'd look. As Dexter posted, pre-race hydrating with booze watching your home team win the AL Division Series was not the best idea. Worse was Mini buying massive Chewbaca shots or whatever the hell those were called.
Lots has already been posted about what led up to the race, here is how the race went for me:
Leg 1, 11:39pm, 7.17 miles, 8:11/mile, elevation gain 631, elevation loss 612 - net gain of 19, average HR 166. Over 7 hours since the start I was ready to do something other than ride around in a van. I felt tired going in from all the standing around, but took the hand off from Sand and ran much stronger that I thought I would. Running in the dark on a two-lane was creepy and there were very few runners around me. I could see a few flashing lights ahead, but no one really around me. From the heat of the day it had gotten cold and the steam from my breath floating up in to my head lamp had me thinking things were darting out at me. At one point I was in the zone and a group of cows I couldn't see started mooing at me and scared the crap out of me. Also had the obligatory rednecks flash their brights and yell #### you at me. Handed off to Turkish at the end and wondered how in the hell I was going to run an additional 10.5 miles.
After a shower at Danville HS and a unsuccessful try at sleep Van 2 was active again.
Leg 2, 8:52am, 5.39 miles, 8:39/mile, elevation gain 363, elevation loss 323 - net gain of 40, average HR 162. Apt, I say, that I took the had off from Sand in a Church parking lot as I was praying I could get through another run. Sand is a MONSTER and I just wanted to stay upright. Took off and had a good first couple of miles. In fact, the only guy that passed me came up on me quick. So quick, that I thought I was running real slow so I looked down and I was running 7:10s and this guy blew right passed me and was quickly out of sight. This was a cool leg with the sun still coming up as it followed a river for most of the run with the sun at my back. The hills got me late on this one and I turned in my two slowest miles of the race in the latter part of this run. Handed off to Turkish and again wondered how in the hell I was going to run another mile.
My stomach is a mess normally and was even worse after the night of drinking before the event and eating 2 gels and two bags of Gu Chomps. I was going to skip lunch, but and SO glad Dexter found Stinky's. My post race reward is typically a huge BLT. Well, I decided to have my reward BLT mid race and it was quite possibly one of the best things I think I have ever eaten (and huge thanks to D for picking up the tab). Off to Woodford Reserve (which was an awesome property). Last tag out with Van 1 who all looked gassed, except for Tri-Man, who looked like he just rolled out of bed (seriously folks, he is a robot).
Leg 3, 5:54pm, 5.21 miles, 8:53/mile, elevation gain 177, elevation loss 177 - net loss of 3, average HR 158. Having watched Sand kill himself in the heat, I was seriously wondering what I had left. I bent over to stretch and saw stars (not really a confidence builder). Took the hand off and was amazed that I could still run. Ran a great first mile and the Van 2 guys came up on me at about 1.5 miles. Dexter, being the caring nurturer that he is, yelled something delicate like "lets go ####er, get your slow ### moving you piece of ####!!!". Feeling the love, I ran on and let the guys know that the woman in front of me (who I eventually killed :flex
seemed to be cramping bad and to drive up and see if they could help. The course for this run was awesome. At one point the stone walls of the horse farms on either side of the road were so high it was like running in a tunnel. And the horses in the fields were stunning. I tried to take it all in as I knew the run was coming to an end and I didn't want to find myself regretting that I was I so serious about running that I missed the scenery around me. Also got charged by a dog and pulled out the NO GO HOME, which amazingly worked (side note, if you go to the Bourbon Chase message board, there is a story about a guy getting nailed by a dog on one of his legs). Handed off to Turkish and rushed in to the van so we could get downtown to the finish.
Waiting for Turkish, I met the legend that is PSL. And to you PSL I apologize for being on vapors and not staying out with the late crowd, I feared I would shut down and, honestly feared the trouble Mini would get me in to going on two days with no sleep. HUGE thanks to the guys in Van 2. We were like the cast of Seinfeld IMO, a crazy eclectic group that seemed to click together. The laughter is what made it work. Sand, I saw your apology for being intense. No apologies needed and never lose that. How cool to be whatever ages we are and we get to act like we did playing high school sports.
To all the BC guys, thank you. I am truly a lucky to have experienced this past weekend. I had the chance to tell a few people what we did this weekend and I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around it. 49th out of 262 team and averaging 8:11/mile over 200 miles (with someone running constantly for almost 27.5 hours). INSANE. Its been a reeeeeeeeeaaal good racing year. Thanks to everyone here for all the support!
Had a moment driving home from work today where I thought that, if this thread had not been started, I wondered if I would have ever run a marathon, done a triathlon and no doubt, I would have never been part of a 200 mile relay. Its really quite amazing what a bunch of guys "from the internet" have motivated me to do. As the guys on the team could probably sense and I will admit now, I was totally intimidated by the assignment I was given. Getting the 5th most difficult assignment had me questioning WTF I had gotten myself in to, especially among such true running pros (and knowing that if I was slowed it stood between us and free drinks).
Had a great drive down catching up with Mini. Since he doesn't post here (so it won't go to his head), I can post that I am very lucky my sister married such a great kid. Awesome athlete, father and Uncle (role model) to my kids. Loved Wriath's Mom's place. Seriously picture postcard everywhere you'd look. As Dexter posted, pre-race hydrating with booze watching your home team win the AL Division Series was not the best idea. Worse was Mini buying massive Chewbaca shots or whatever the hell those were called.
Lots has already been posted about what led up to the race, here is how the race went for me:
Leg 1, 11:39pm, 7.17 miles, 8:11/mile, elevation gain 631, elevation loss 612 - net gain of 19, average HR 166. Over 7 hours since the start I was ready to do something other than ride around in a van. I felt tired going in from all the standing around, but took the hand off from Sand and ran much stronger that I thought I would. Running in the dark on a two-lane was creepy and there were very few runners around me. I could see a few flashing lights ahead, but no one really around me. From the heat of the day it had gotten cold and the steam from my breath floating up in to my head lamp had me thinking things were darting out at me. At one point I was in the zone and a group of cows I couldn't see started mooing at me and scared the crap out of me. Also had the obligatory rednecks flash their brights and yell #### you at me. Handed off to Turkish at the end and wondered how in the hell I was going to run an additional 10.5 miles.
After a shower at Danville HS and a unsuccessful try at sleep Van 2 was active again.
Leg 2, 8:52am, 5.39 miles, 8:39/mile, elevation gain 363, elevation loss 323 - net gain of 40, average HR 162. Apt, I say, that I took the had off from Sand in a Church parking lot as I was praying I could get through another run. Sand is a MONSTER and I just wanted to stay upright. Took off and had a good first couple of miles. In fact, the only guy that passed me came up on me quick. So quick, that I thought I was running real slow so I looked down and I was running 7:10s and this guy blew right passed me and was quickly out of sight. This was a cool leg with the sun still coming up as it followed a river for most of the run with the sun at my back. The hills got me late on this one and I turned in my two slowest miles of the race in the latter part of this run. Handed off to Turkish and again wondered how in the hell I was going to run another mile.
My stomach is a mess normally and was even worse after the night of drinking before the event and eating 2 gels and two bags of Gu Chomps. I was going to skip lunch, but and SO glad Dexter found Stinky's. My post race reward is typically a huge BLT. Well, I decided to have my reward BLT mid race and it was quite possibly one of the best things I think I have ever eaten (and huge thanks to D for picking up the tab). Off to Woodford Reserve (which was an awesome property). Last tag out with Van 1 who all looked gassed, except for Tri-Man, who looked like he just rolled out of bed (seriously folks, he is a robot).
Leg 3, 5:54pm, 5.21 miles, 8:53/mile, elevation gain 177, elevation loss 177 - net loss of 3, average HR 158. Having watched Sand kill himself in the heat, I was seriously wondering what I had left. I bent over to stretch and saw stars (not really a confidence builder). Took the hand off and was amazed that I could still run. Ran a great first mile and the Van 2 guys came up on me at about 1.5 miles. Dexter, being the caring nurturer that he is, yelled something delicate like "lets go ####er, get your slow ### moving you piece of ####!!!". Feeling the love, I ran on and let the guys know that the woman in front of me (who I eventually killed :flex
seemed to be cramping bad and to drive up and see if they could help. The course for this run was awesome. At one point the stone walls of the horse farms on either side of the road were so high it was like running in a tunnel. And the horses in the fields were stunning. I tried to take it all in as I knew the run was coming to an end and I didn't want to find myself regretting that I was I so serious about running that I missed the scenery around me. Also got charged by a dog and pulled out the NO GO HOME, which amazingly worked (side note, if you go to the Bourbon Chase message board, there is a story about a guy getting nailed by a dog on one of his legs). Handed off to Turkish and rushed in to the van so we could get downtown to the finish.Waiting for Turkish, I met the legend that is PSL. And to you PSL I apologize for being on vapors and not staying out with the late crowd, I feared I would shut down and, honestly feared the trouble Mini would get me in to going on two days with no sleep. HUGE thanks to the guys in Van 2. We were like the cast of Seinfeld IMO, a crazy eclectic group that seemed to click together. The laughter is what made it work. Sand, I saw your apology for being intense. No apologies needed and never lose that. How cool to be whatever ages we are and we get to act like we did playing high school sports.
To all the BC guys, thank you. I am truly a lucky to have experienced this past weekend. I had the chance to tell a few people what we did this weekend and I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around it. 49th out of 262 team and averaging 8:11/mile over 200 miles (with someone running constantly for almost 27.5 hours). INSANE. Its been a reeeeeeeeeaaal good racing year. Thanks to everyone here for all the support!
pmbrown_22
Footballguy
I thought that it was something straight from Chewbaca. That was horrible.I am planning on getting back on the road today and running a few recovery miles. Nothing major, but I signed up for the Cincy half in 2 weekends. Actually, I am going to run with my brother as he is doing his first ever half. Should be a good time as he is newer to running so there may be some prodding along and helping him out.Have a great day all.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
If you want to track me, shoot me a PM with either your email address and/or a cell to get texts. They require you to get a user name and password, so to make it easiest, I just got one and am adding anyone who wants to follow that way. Once I add your info, you'll get a confirmation. Text message people will get a message once I add you and you have to confirm via text you want the updates.Mile 1-2 uphill but it is right away so maybe adrenaline and the start of the race will have you mentally miss it?Mile 3-10 look awesome!!!!'SteelCurtain said:Prosposis -- this is my second marathon. My first was in January 2011. I ran a 3:39 on a flat course with perfect conditions.
Tri-man -- I hope to get a PR. The course is a little hilly (for a marathon)with miles 16-23 being more uphill than not. Elevation chart is here. In terms of HR, I'm guessing I'll try to run around 160 HR and 8 minute miles to get to mile 16 (assuming all goes well.) I'd love to get to mile 20 at that 8 min/mile pace. After that, we'll see where we stand. My overall goal is to improve my time from my first marathon. With the hills and a bit warmer temps (mid to upper 60's), that would be an accomplishment for me. I do know that my pace for the first half will be well ahead of that, but I'd like to build a cushion if at all possible. Sound reasonable or am I nuts?
pigskinliquors -- Its been a busy week at work so I've been running around putting out fires. I really need to rest up on Thursday and Friday so I'm ready to get after it on Saturday. Also, my left knee is acting up a little bit and "clicking" when I run. It doesn't hurt but it is noticeable. I'm not about to change anything. I'll just hope for the best. I'll try to kick some ###!
Good luck. Do you have a number we can track you with?
Updates will be at 13.1, 19.5 and finish. Thanks.
Saturday 8 a.m. start. I'll have a RR posted within 24 hours.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
I'm still not sure if he was serious when he asked me if I wanted to go the strip club for breakfast, though I am fairly certain that had I said yes, that he'd have gone.'2Young2BBald said:
Ned
Footballguy
Got my last run in before Saturday's HM - 12mi MLR. For as run down and achy I've felt lately, I sure am putting in some good runs. It's like my body is trained to only wake up for running and nothing else. 
It was a pretty uneventful run, which is fine by me. A nice even-paced run where I felt in total control the entire time. Almost identical stats to yesterday's 8mi GA run which is awesome considering today was 50% further. 151 HR @ 8:56
I'm looking forward to the massage appointment later tonight. I'm hoping she can work her MAT magic and have me feeling like new.
It was a pretty uneventful run, which is fine by me. A nice even-paced run where I felt in total control the entire time. Almost identical stats to yesterday's 8mi GA run which is awesome considering today was 50% further. 151 HR @ 8:56
I'm looking forward to the massage appointment later tonight. I'm hoping she can work her MAT magic and have me feeling like new.
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wraith5
Footballguy
I gotta say, I was that close to steering the van over to one of the establishments after Taco Bell, but Grue was already 1/2 asleep in the front seat and my eyes were getting heavy, too. More than wanting to keep us out of jail (which, in all fairness, I wanted to do), I just wanted to keep us out of the morgue by driving on Russell Cave Road when I was too tired to see straight. That road is not to be messed with.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Russell Cave Road is plenty of a reason to drink at home.
The_Man
Footballguy
You are doing a great job. Tackling Pfitz for your second marathon and sticking with it is more than I can do. Look at you banging out a 12-miler and dismissing it as a mere MLR.When's your marathon again? And are you racing a HM this weekend to lock in a goal time for the marathon?As I look back at my rookie marathon last year, my favorite thing of the whole experience was the HM that I raced about six weeks before the marathon. I felt so confident and strong that day - I loved being at Mile 10 and as other people were slowing down and getting tired, I was like "13 miles is nothing. I got this!"As far as this marathon cycle goes, I continue to have some very strong individual workouts but still struggle to build that mileage base. Oh well. I'm running well, just not enough because of work, family, and being lame.Got my last run in before Saturday's HM - 12mi MLR. For as run down and achy I've felt lately, I sure am putting in some good runs. It's like my body is trained to only wake up for running and nothing else.
wraith5
Footballguy
Got back out this morning for a 5 miler - had intended to take it easy since I'm on Day 4 of antibiotics for my lungs, but got going and decided to push 5k. Ended up at 24:08 (7:47s). Not anywhere close to a PR or anything, but all things considered a good starting point for... well whatever i decide to do through the off season I guess!
There is a 10 mile race in November downtown Chicago that I'm starting to really think hard about. BC still has be buzzing and hanging out with real runners has me pumped up... I need to hang with more runners IRL.
Also, I have an appointment this afternoon at a sports therapy place to take a look at my achilles tendon issues. Hoping to come away with a therapy plan that doesn't involve, you know, not running.
There is a 10 mile race in November downtown Chicago that I'm starting to really think hard about. BC still has be buzzing and hanging out with real runners has me pumped up... I need to hang with more runners IRL.
Also, I have an appointment this afternoon at a sports therapy place to take a look at my achilles tendon issues. Hoping to come away with a therapy plan that doesn't involve, you know, not running.
Ned
Footballguy
Thanks! I am 150% sold on the Pfitz book/plans. I truly feel like a totally different runner after following the plan for the first 13 weeks.You are doing a great job. Tackling Pfitz for your second marathon and sticking with it is more than I can do. Look at you banging out a 12-miler and dismissing it as a mere MLR.When's your marathon again? And are you racing a HM this weekend to lock in a goal time for the marathon?As I look back at my rookie marathon last year, my favorite thing of the whole experience was the HM that I raced about six weeks before the marathon. I felt so confident and strong that day - I loved being at Mile 10 and as other people were slowing down and getting tired, I was like "13 miles is nothing. I got this!"As far as this marathon cycle goes, I continue to have some very strong individual workouts but still struggle to build that mileage base. Oh well. I'm running well, just not enough because of work, family, and being lame.Got my last run in before Saturday's HM - 12mi MLR. For as run down and achy I've felt lately, I sure am putting in some good runs. It's like my body is trained to only wake up for running and nothing else.
at the "mere MLR" comment. My wife gives me a hard time about how much I've changed. It helps to keep me grounded. It seems surreal that I can sneak out for a long lunch and bang out 12.I'm running the Philly marathon on 11/20. Yeah, this weekend's HM is more or less going to be my baseline test for Philly. With 5 weeks to go, I'm anxious to know where I'm at. Just like you said, 13 now feels more like a mid-distance. 
I think 10-13 has become sort of my bread/butter distance. Last year I was scared to death to race 13. Funny how things can change so quickly.I'm glad to hear you're still going at it and I totally sympathize with the juggling act. It becomes quite exhausting when you're juggling work, kids, and running. You are a hell of a runner. You're talented enough to get away with the lower mileage, IMHO.
Week 4 Review - Planned 33 mi. Actual was 30.83 in roughly 5 hours and a 40 mi bike.
Week 5 plan
Mon - 5 mi (did a 2 hr trail run, 9 mi)
Tue - 10 mi (unscheduled off day)
Wed - Bike (will run tonite)
Thur - 3.1 tempo
Fri - off
Sat - 1 hr run
Sun - 3 hr run
Goal is roughly 38 miles and 7 hrs for the week. Rain wiped out my Tuesday work out.
Week 5 plan
Mon - 5 mi (did a 2 hr trail run, 9 mi)
Tue - 10 mi (unscheduled off day)
Wed - Bike (will run tonite)
Thur - 3.1 tempo
Fri - off
Sat - 1 hr run
Sun - 3 hr run
Goal is roughly 38 miles and 7 hrs for the week. Rain wiped out my Tuesday work out.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills.
Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I take 3 times the recommended dosage every day and more when I feel like I am getting sick (1500 MGs, still below the rec daily max). Other than stunting my growth, I am fine ; Seriously, even if it was a 1000mg pill, I would not worry about taking another.Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Agreed. I pound the vitamin C heavily when I get sick (though knock on wood, it's been a couple/few years). I also like to pull the covers up high at night and sweat the sucker out. Fingers crossed that it passes quickly, SteelCurtain!!!I take 3 times the recommended dosage every day and more when I feel like I am getting sick (1500 MGs, still below the rec daily max). Other than stunting my growth, I am fine ; Seriously, even if it was a 1000mg pill, I would not worry about taking another.Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
pm sentIf you want to track me, shoot me a PM with either your email address and/or a cell to get texts. They require you to get a user name and password, so to make it easiest, I just got one and am adding anyone who wants to follow that way. Once I add your info, you'll get a confirmation. Text message people will get a message once I add you and you have to confirm via text you want the updates.Mile 1-2 uphill but it is right away so maybe adrenaline and the start of the race will have you mentally miss it?Mile 3-10 look awesome!!!!Prosposis -- this is my second marathon. My first was in January 2011. I ran a 3:39 on a flat course with perfect conditions.
Tri-man -- I hope to get a PR. The course is a little hilly (for a marathon)with miles 16-23 being more uphill than not. Elevation chart is here. In terms of HR, I'm guessing I'll try to run around 160 HR and 8 minute miles to get to mile 16 (assuming all goes well.) I'd love to get to mile 20 at that 8 min/mile pace. After that, we'll see where we stand. My overall goal is to improve my time from my first marathon. With the hills and a bit warmer temps (mid to upper 60's), that would be an accomplishment for me. I do know that my pace for the first half will be well ahead of that, but I'd like to build a cushion if at all possible. Sound reasonable or am I nuts?
pigskinliquors -- Its been a busy week at work so I've been running around putting out fires. I really need to rest up on Thursday and Friday so I'm ready to get after it on Saturday. Also, my left knee is acting up a little bit and "clicking" when I run. It doesn't hurt but it is noticeable. I'm not about to change anything. I'll just hope for the best. I'll try to kick some ###!
Good luck. Do you have a number we can track you with?
Updates will be at 13.1, 19.5 and finish. Thanks.
Saturday 8 a.m. start. I'll have a RR posted within 24 hours.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
'Ned said:Got my last run in before Saturday's HM - 12mi MLR. For as run down and achy I've felt lately, I sure am putting in some good runs. It's like my body is trained to only wake up for running and nothing else.
Nice HR for 8:56. Have fun at your race.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
This sucks. I had the same experience last week prior to my 1/2. I pounded fluids, especially fruit juices. Lots of vitamins. I also think a lot of sleep helps. Can you take some time off from work and put yourself into a coma with benadryl for about 24 hrs? Just get out of bed to piss and drink fruit juice.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Take it twice a day. You will piss most of it out anyway. If you can hit the juices hard or even better juice some fruits and drink them.Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
You are all set. I think the text message you need to respond to activate.pm sentIf you want to track me, shoot me a PM with either your email address and/or a cell to get texts. They require you to get a user name and password, so to make it easiest, I just got one and am adding anyone who wants to follow that way. Once I add your info, you'll get a confirmation. Text message people will get a message once I add you and you have to confirm via text you want the updates.Mile 1-2 uphill but it is right away so maybe adrenaline and the start of the race will have you mentally miss it?Mile 3-10 look awesome!!!!Prosposis -- this is my second marathon. My first was in January 2011. I ran a 3:39 on a flat course with perfect conditions.
Tri-man -- I hope to get a PR. The course is a little hilly (for a marathon)with miles 16-23 being more uphill than not. Elevation chart is here. In terms of HR, I'm guessing I'll try to run around 160 HR and 8 minute miles to get to mile 16 (assuming all goes well.) I'd love to get to mile 20 at that 8 min/mile pace. After that, we'll see where we stand. My overall goal is to improve my time from my first marathon. With the hills and a bit warmer temps (mid to upper 60's), that would be an accomplishment for me. I do know that my pace for the first half will be well ahead of that, but I'd like to build a cushion if at all possible. Sound reasonable or am I nuts?
pigskinliquors -- Its been a busy week at work so I've been running around putting out fires. I really need to rest up on Thursday and Friday so I'm ready to get after it on Saturday. Also, my left knee is acting up a little bit and "clicking" when I run. It doesn't hurt but it is noticeable. I'm not about to change anything. I'll just hope for the best. I'll try to kick some ###!
Good luck. Do you have a number we can track you with?
Updates will be at 13.1, 19.5 and finish. Thanks.
Saturday 8 a.m. start. I'll have a RR posted within 24 hours.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Its only 500 mg pills! I'll take 2-3 a day from here on out. Thanks!I take 3 times the recommended dosage every day and more when I feel like I am getting sick (1500 MGs, still below the rec daily max). Other than stunting my growth, I am fine ; Seriously, even if it was a 1000mg pill, I would not worry about taking another.Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Enjoy! You are about 5 weeks behind me. 5 weeks ago, I was running my HM at Marathon pace as part of a 20 mile run. I found the HM hard to keep my pacing at MP. I wanted to go faster, I generally stayed close to MP but I was about 10 seconds/mile faster and it felt good. I also remember running a few miles after the race and I ran the back part of the course, and I had a bunch of people giving me the "I can't believe you ran a half marathon and you are now running a little more?!?" look. Kind of like the look I give people who run a "cool down" after a marathon. Before you know it, you're marathon will be upon you.
Good luck this weekend. Be sure to post a RR even though I know you aren't trying to PR the HM.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Well, last night was supposed to be my last run before the half.
Instead, right before they went to bed, my son banged his tooth into my daughter's head and I ended up at the emergency room til after 11 so that I could spend $60 copay and whatever else they will bill me for the doctor to look at her for 10 seconds, say that it did not need stitches. Then a pretty darn hot nurse came in and washed the wound for a bit and sent us on our way.
Son has soccer practice tonight (though, the weather might not cooperate for that)...but might get at least 2 miles in tonight just to get the legs going a few days before the race.
Instead, right before they went to bed, my son banged his tooth into my daughter's head and I ended up at the emergency room til after 11 so that I could spend $60 copay and whatever else they will bill me for the doctor to look at her for 10 seconds, say that it did not need stitches. Then a pretty darn hot nurse came in and washed the wound for a bit and sent us on our way.
Son has soccer practice tonight (though, the weather might not cooperate for that)...but might get at least 2 miles in tonight just to get the legs going a few days before the race.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
...getting excited for the weekend racers!!!
I'd suggest Zicom or Zircom..forget the exact spelling. That stuff has whipped some colds for me asap.Took Vitamin C pill this AM. It says to take one a day. Any risk in taking 2 a day? I've got a race to run!'2Young2BBald said:Add some type of crisis at work and you'll have my typical taper. Start pounding the Vitamin C. Pills and fluids.'SteelCurtain said:Full fledged sick right now. Fever, nasal drip going down the back of my throat, chills. Not exactly how I planned to be 3 days before my marathon.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Ned: Awesome to see ho-hum 12's coming out of you (better than having one in you )
Steel: Welcome to the sick during taper club. You can't take too much Vitamin C or get too much rest. Tapers suck, but they are literally the best time to get sick if you have to do it.
Sho nuff: Emergency room sucks. Any way you can run during soccer practice? I used to be able to get 5-6 miles in during my daughter's practices, just running around the fields. Fortunately the field they typically practice on has a great trail through the park, which is also good for stalking soccer mom's
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My update:
I did the elliptical for a hard 45 minutes after work yesterday and again camped in front of the chick machines. I truly need to make a habit of this, as the coeds are quite inspiring. This morning, on tired legs, I thought I was going to do an easy 18 mile spin. The first 7 miles were all into the wind, and I kept my HR well below 160. then the flippin' speed bug bit me, and the adrenaline of going down wind or having side wind won. I was averaging 18.5 MPH after the first 7, and ended up averaging 20.6 overall (= I was flying coming in). At mile 16 two doods on full carbon bikes (one with Zipp wheels) turned onto the road a quarter mile in front of me. I worked my ### off to catch them, and went by them going 26 on a slightly uphill stretch. Thank goodness they turned off my road a half mile after I passed them, bc there is no way I could have kept the pace I was going much longer, though I would have done it til I bonked.
)Steel: Welcome to the sick during taper club. You can't take too much Vitamin C or get too much rest. Tapers suck, but they are literally the best time to get sick if you have to do it.
Sho nuff: Emergency room sucks. Any way you can run during soccer practice? I used to be able to get 5-6 miles in during my daughter's practices, just running around the fields. Fortunately the field they typically practice on has a great trail through the park, which is also good for stalking soccer mom's
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My update:
I did the elliptical for a hard 45 minutes after work yesterday and again camped in front of the chick machines. I truly need to make a habit of this, as the coeds are quite inspiring. This morning, on tired legs, I thought I was going to do an easy 18 mile spin. The first 7 miles were all into the wind, and I kept my HR well below 160. then the flippin' speed bug bit me, and the adrenaline of going down wind or having side wind won. I was averaging 18.5 MPH after the first 7, and ended up averaging 20.6 overall (= I was flying coming in). At mile 16 two doods on full carbon bikes (one with Zipp wheels) turned onto the road a quarter mile in front of me. I worked my ### off to catch them, and went by them going 26 on a slightly uphill stretch. Thank goodness they turned off my road a half mile after I passed them, bc there is no way I could have kept the pace I was going much longer, though I would have done it til I bonked.
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Sand
Footballguy
Hey Gru, Now that you've taken down the 3 hour barrier are you ready for the next step? Your next race strategy.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Running during practice is a possibility...if my wife can make it out there (she has a late dentist appointment and we are starting practice earlier tonight). Its right next to the greenway...so its possible.
Again, it depends if we even will have practice tonight...supposed to rain much of today.
Again, it depends if we even will have practice tonight...supposed to rain much of today.
Don't know why but I always seem to have a slower run coming off a rest day day and my best runs coming off solid bike efforts. May need to incorporate htat in future event taper plans.
10 miles last night at 9:07 pace and 146 hr. Last week my 9 miler was at 9:00 pace and 144 hr. My legs just felt heavy last night.
Looks like rain is going to put a kink into today's plans.
10 miles last night at 9:07 pace and 146 hr. Last week my 9 miler was at 9:00 pace and 144 hr. My legs just felt heavy last night.
Looks like rain is going to put a kink into today's plans.
Ned
Footballguy
So I took a look at my one and only HM from last November to get an idea of where my HR was at so I had a gauge for Saturday. Before looking, I assumed I was right around the LT range of 159-176. It's kinda cool to look back at this when I didn't know a thing about HR data. It looks like I kept it within the LT range for the first half, or about 53 minutes. The last 58 or so minutes were at or above the top range. I'm trying to figure out how to translate this into Saturday's pacing.
164, 168, 170, 172, 173, 176, 178, 178, 176, 179, 181, 182, 189 (last 0.1 sprint)
I'm thinking of following a similar plan and not hitting the top end of the LT range until I have < hour to go. There's also a good hill climb from 8.5 - 10 that I need to factor in. I also just saw the forecast for Saturday. 45mph wind gusts. :X I'm thinking if all goes right and the wind stays at bay, I can break 1:45.
164, 168, 170, 172, 173, 176, 178, 178, 176, 179, 181, 182, 189 (last 0.1 sprint)
I'm thinking of following a similar plan and not hitting the top end of the LT range until I have < hour to go. There's also a good hill climb from 8.5 - 10 that I need to factor in. I also just saw the forecast for Saturday. 45mph wind gusts. :X I'm thinking if all goes right and the wind stays at bay, I can break 1:45.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
The way you have trained, a 1:45 is more than doable! Just past LT, some surprising things happen. For your last one, you held on to a very consistent HR for 5+ miles. You are in MUCH better shape this go around which suggests you'll be able to hold on even longer. I would think holding out for the last :30 would be holding out too long. Now, if you just want to treat this as a training run, then I would recommend doing just two miles at desired MP. I'd choose miles 9 and 12 or something similar. The rest of the run should be well over pace (1:00 +) IF you are treating this as a training run.
gruecd
Footballguy
Looking forward to tracking SteelCurtain in B'more and to seeing how Ned and sho nuff fare in their halves. Expecting big things from all you guys. liquors - A buddy of mine fell flat on his face last night when he tripped on a root while while checking out an "inspirational" view ahead of him. Let that be a lesson to you.
Sand - Yeah, I linked to that story yesterday on Facebook. Damn Brits have no class.
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Personally, I've done literally nothing exercise-wise since the Chase. I've had a couple ultrasound treatments on the hammy, and I had a massage yesterday morning. I've got some bruising now and everything. Probably had no business running the Chase, but whatcha gonna do? The things I do for you guys....
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gruecd
Footballguy
FWIW, I'd straight-out race this. Plenty of time until your marathon, and it'll be good to have something to help fine-tune your goal.
Sand
Footballguy
Is this a race or a training run?
The_Man
Footballguy
RACE IT!Like I said before, I enjoyed the HM that I raced 6 weeks before my marathon even more than the marathon itself. Plus, you really have no idea what a realistic GMP should be. You are primed to crush 4 hours, IMHO. Find out for sure this weekend.
Ned
Footballguy
I'm full bore racing this. The plan has been to use this as my baseline test for the marathon on 11/20. No holding back.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Advantage #1 of not being able to run anymore. Using the elliptical at a large university Rec Center has much better views and greatly fewer obstacles to get hurt on in comparison to running outside.liquors - A buddy of mine fell flat on his face last night when he tripped on a root while while checking out an "inspirational" view ahead of him. Let that be a lesson to you.
Thought the pic's in this thread would be useful to this group.edited to add: I'm with Grue = I would go after this race if I was you Ned. Edited again as I saw your post above = SWEEEEEEEET!
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gruecd
Footballguy
That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Giddy up!
jb1020
Footballguy
Anyone here participated in a Warrior Dash? Its loosely related to this thread I guess.
One's coming to my area in April, thought I might sign up.
ETA, a quick search showed me that yes, many people have. So I should rephrase, looks awesome. I'm signing up.
One's coming to my area in April, thought I might sign up.
ETA, a quick search showed me that yes, many people have. So I should rephrase, looks awesome. I'm signing up.
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2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
'jb1020 said:
I had a blast at the MI event. Quick pieces of advice: don't run it for time, run it for fun. Pick a wave around 11:00am and plan to hang around and drink 'til about 9pm. Register in the same wave with buddies, family, anyone you know. Its much more fun with a group. We already have over 30 people signed up for the same wave next year.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed.Had a blast doing it...crappy we picked a later wave because it was hot by then....especially in one of the obastacles (basically a low to the ground blacked out tent that was a furnace).'jb1020 said:
But very fun.
Wear very old clothes you intend on tossing (especially the shoes...they will have a place to donate them).
Wear something goofy...pose good for the mud jump and get the watchers into it.
Just have fun.
The best were the people not being too serious about it. I started out semi serious...but quickly fell back with the group I was with (til the last little bit because I had to show them I could whip them when I wanted to).
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