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I don't mind cold and wind, but I really don't think there's anything worse than 40 degrees and raining. I'd rather run in sub zero temp's than a cold rain. Looks like I might have a break late afternoon, going to prep myself and hope to get out for a quick few miles if there's a break.P.S. It's cold and windy outside today. I don't wanna run.
GOOD LUCK!!! I have a couple of training friends already on their way down for the event and they are YIP posting on FB an bunch too. I recall your 1/2 postings, YOU GOT THIS!!!I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
Good luck 3k!!!I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
Good luck! If you know your number please post so we can look you up. ----On my end a solid end of month has been worked. Finally got back in the pool - 1:09 100, 2:32 200, etc. Same as always. Added some 25yd sprint efforts - ~12 second sprints with no breathing. Not Cesar Cielo, but still -'ThreeThousand said:I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
Nice 5 mile run today doing 8:12s or so. Wind was really up - love running in the wind. Had a blast. Gonna try for a trainer session tonight and a 7 mile run tomorrow to finish out October.
Tell me about the no breathing 25 yard sprints. What is the objective/benefit? I never tried to go a length without a breath and wonder if I can. I am back in the pool on a regimented 2 nights a week schedule.On my end a solid end of month has been worked. Finally got back in the pool - 1:09 100, 2:32 200, etc. Same as always. Added some 25yd sprint efforts - ~12 second sprints with no breathing. Not Cesar Cielo, but still -
There is no physiological benefit to hypoxic sets. Less breathing = faster, though. (Which is why in the 50 free in the Olympics pretty much all those guys don't breathe). I was aiming for balls out sprints. And I wanted to see if I could do it. Answer:Tell me about the no breathing 25 yard sprints. What is the objective/benefit? I never tried to go a length without a breath and wonder if I can. I am back in the pool on a regimented 2 nights a week schedule.On my end a solid end of month has been worked. Finally got back in the pool - 1:09 100, 2:32 200, etc. Same as always. Added some 25yd sprint efforts - ~12 second sprints with no breathing. Not Cesar Cielo, but still -
When I say mexican I had veggie enchiladas and some corn chips. I am a vegetarian so it wasn't like I was having crispy tacos laden with beef grease and cheese!'IvanKaramazov said:'Sand said:Nice report, HM. Glad you had a good experience. But you might re-think your choice of pre-race meals. (Edit: In fairness, though, if it works during training and it worked during this event, by all means stick with it).
Kind of what I figuredThere is no physiological benefit to hypoxic sets. Less breathing = faster, though. (Which is why in the 50 free in the Olympics pretty much all those guys don't breathe). I was aiming for balls out sprints. And I wanted to see if I could do it. Answer:Tell me about the no breathing 25 yard sprints. What is the objective/benefit? I never tried to go a length without a breath and wonder if I can. I am back in the pool on a regimented 2 nights a week schedule.On my end a solid end of month has been worked. Finally got back in the pool - 1:09 100, 2:32 200, etc. Same as always. Added some 25yd sprint efforts - ~12 second sprints with no breathing. Not Cesar Cielo, but still -
If I try these, I'll have to be sure I start at the deep end and end in the shallow section in case I pass out. It'll make it easier for the teen age guard to rescue me (like she'd look up from her iPhone and even notice I'm drowning).
Do well! You've planned your race ...now race your plan.'ThreeThousand said:I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
I'm much less impressed now.When I say mexican I had veggie enchiladas and some corn chips. I am a vegetarian so it wasn't like I was having crispy tacos laden with beef grease and cheese!
Getting rescued by the local teenage swim girl sounds like a pretty good enticement to try them.Kind of what I figured
Last year you'd have been dead on, this year not so much.Getting rescued by the local teenage swim girl sounds like a pretty good enticement to try them.Kind of what I figured
On the subject of wind and running, I noticed during kids soccer games on big fields that a 10 mph wind in one direction gives the team with the wind at their back on offense a big advantage, and a 20 mph wind at the back is a huge advantage and 25mph + and up is basically insurmountable. It didn't seem like the wind should be such a big advantage until I realized that its the DIFFERENCE between what the offense and defense sees that matters ... a 25 mph wind at the back of the offense and 25 mph in the face of the defense is equivalent to the defense running into a 50 mph headwind wind and the offense being in still air, or conversely, the offense with a 50 mph tailwind and the defense playing in still air.I don't know how this relates to running long distances, except maybe start out with the wind at your back and tack back like a sailboat?'gruecd said:P.S. It's cold and windy outside today. I don't wanna run.
Yet another thing tri-man would excellent at, BTW.I don't know how this relates to running long distances, except maybe start out with the wind at your back and tack back like a sailboat?
Good luck man. Enjoy the draftfest.'ThreeThousand said:I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
Nothing scientific here, but I think my best runs are when I get headwinds and uphills out of the way in the first 60-70% of the run. I'm the type that battles and then just tries to hang on and it's a lot easier to do that when you have the wind at your back or are going downhill.Today wasn't too terrible in Cleveland, definitely happy I did this run today and not yesterday though. Rained the whole way, but never really poured and the wind wasn't awful, probably between 10 and 20 the whole way. Did 4 miles in 30 mins and kept my HR under 80% max. Recovery run tomorrow, off day Thurs, and plan is for last experiment day Friday. Want to get it in ASAP so I can do a 5k time trial next week and have 10 days rest before the race.I don't know how this relates to running long distances, except maybe start out with the wind at your back and tack back like a sailboat?
Wear your HRM during the time trial and the race. Hopefully you'll find a real mHR. I'd be very leery of running/training based on HR that was derived from a generic calc.Nothing scientific here, but I think my best runs are when I get headwinds and uphills out of the way in the first 60-70% of the run. I'm the type that battles and then just tries to hang on and it's a lot easier to do that when you have the wind at your back or are going downhill.Today wasn't too terrible in Cleveland, definitely happy I did this run today and not yesterday though. Rained the whole way, but never really poured and the wind wasn't awful, probably between 10 and 20 the whole way. Did 4 miles in 30 mins and kept my HR under 80% max. Recovery run tomorrow, off day Thurs, and plan is for last experiment day Friday. Want to get it in ASAP so I can do a 5k time trial next week and have 10 days rest before the race.I don't know how this relates to running long distances, except maybe start out with the wind at your back and tack back like a sailboat?
Plan to for the time trial, probably will need to give it back before the race though, I'll do my best to drag my feet thoughWear your HRM during the time trial and the race. Hopefully you'll find a real mHR. I'd be very leery of running/training based on HR that was derived from a generic calc.Nothing scientific here, but I think my best runs are when I get headwinds and uphills out of the way in the first 60-70% of the run. I'm the type that battles and then just tries to hang on and it's a lot easier to do that when you have the wind at your back or are going downhill.Today wasn't too terrible in Cleveland, definitely happy I did this run today and not yesterday though. Rained the whole way, but never really poured and the wind wasn't awful, probably between 10 and 20 the whole way. Did 4 miles in 30 mins and kept my HR under 80% max. Recovery run tomorrow, off day Thurs, and plan is for last experiment day Friday. Want to get it in ASAP so I can do a 5k time trial next week and have 10 days rest before the race.I don't know how this relates to running long distances, except maybe start out with the wind at your back and tack back like a sailboat?
. If I had to guess right now I'd say I could go north of 200, hopefully I'll get a better idea a week from today.
Good luck mn and have fun.'ThreeThousand said:I've just been sort of tangentially following this thread as I've been training for my "A" race, but my "A" race is right around the corner (Saturday) and I'm starting to get the yips. Heading to Panama City Beach tomorrow afternoon for Ironman Florida - my first Ironman. Wish me luck
It aint a race if you dont get the "yips"
At 30 mins I started to decrease my speed and I wanted to decrease all the way to 45 mins but then it happened. I always felt like it was just a matter of time. Today was the day I sharted on the treadmill in LA Fitness 
Post of the dayI had intentions of doing a 45 min tempo run. I got on the treadmill and gradually increased speed for 15 mins. At 15 mins I I went to 8:27 pace and I did that for 15 mins. I was feeling gassy
Let me guess - in the ceiling tiles?Took me a while to clean up and I just threw the chonies away. I was pretty stealthy and I dont think anyone knows. It was nasty. I seem to have GI issues when running in the afternoon. I have had several close calls. I may just start taking immodium at noon.
I thought about it.Let me guess - in the ceiling tiles?Took me a while to clean up and I just threw the chonies away. I was pretty stealthy and I dont think anyone knows.
It was nasty. I seem to have GI issues when running in the afternoon. I have had several close calls. I may just start taking immodium at noon.
I sometimes have GI issues with afternoon workouts (was going to say runsI seem to have GI issues when running in the afternoon. I have had several close calls. I may just start taking immodium at noon.
). I tend to be very regular in the morning, and I think the afternoon workouts accelerate the process building up for the next a.m. I guess you just need to stay alert to that. (Don't know how gruecd manages so many long double workouts without issues.)NICE job on the pacing! That would have been worth posting in and of itself!!
I had intentions of doing a 45 min tempo run. I got on the treadmill and gradually increased speed for 15 mins. At 15 mins I I went to 8:27 pace and I did that for 15 mins. I was feeling gassy
Sorry, GB, but better you than me.
I had intentions of doing a 45 min tempo run. I got on the treadmill and gradually increased speed for 15 mins. At 15 mins I I went to 8:27 pace and I did that for 15 mins. I was feeling gassy
It wouldn't be a run if I wasn't drop gas most of the way. I just consider it extra propulsion.'tri-man 47 said:I sometimes have GI issues with afternoon workouts (was going to say runsI seem to have GI issues when running in the afternoon. I have had several close calls. I may just start taking immodium at noon.
The technical term is crop dusting if I am not mistaken.It wouldn't be a run if I wasn't drop gas most of the way. I just consider it extra propulsion.'tri-man 47 said:I sometimes have GI issues with afternoon workouts (was going to say runsI seem to have GI issues when running in the afternoon. I have had several close calls. I may just start taking immodium at noon.
Yes, not dissimilar to post-partum depression, actually. You dedicate yourself to something for so long, and then suddenly it's done and over with, and you're left without direction. Pick your next goal race. You'll feel better.
I actually do waaaaay better in that department in the afternoon. In the morning, I usually go a couple of times pre-run, and I still end up stopping mid-run half the time once everything gets loosened up. In the afternoon, it's usually one-and-done before I head out, and no problems once I'm out there.'tri-man 47 said:
Totally normal. In addition to what gruecd said, you're probably used to having your body flooded with endorphins all the time thanks to your training regimen. Take those away and a little degression is natural.
Both of you. I'll add, that if you can, find a race that has an added element of fun, go find one (or more) of them. While I love the intensity of the "season" I also really like the racing that can be had this time of year. Trail Racing season is in full swing and the Turkey Trots are close too. AND, it is most appropriate to wear swag from the HIM to races to show off a bit. Consider it a victory lap of sorts.
Hell, I get a little depressed during the taper before a big race, probably for this exact reason...
Sounds like a plan. I'm going to sign up for Ironman Florida for November 2013. Registration is this Sunday. Appreciate the advice.
I sympathize with the people who trained for this, but given how much of a nightmare the logistics for this race are anyway, I think I'd rather just have a deferral. That's easy to say when you didn't actually train for it though.
Question - I read somewhere that if you defer you still hav to pay the entry again. Is this true?
No idea. Honestly though, I don't think I'd care that much if it guaranteed me a place in next year's field. My thought is that I'm already out a non-refundable plane ticket, so what' another registration fee? Especially when you consider that they could just as easily cancel the race altogether in which case I'm also out the registration fee too.
Yes. Same as when they offered people the opportunity to defer out of this year's Boston Marathon because of the heat.
Now that I think about it, I don't think that's an unreasonable policy. The race directors have some fixed and nonrecoverable costs they have to cover, and if you're taking up (imaginary) room in this year's field and (for real) next year's field, it's not unfair to bill you for those costs each year.
What sort of resources are they using for the race? If they're taking emergency vehicles, police, etc I think it's a bad idea to hold the race. Better to use those resources on the search and rescue or cleanup efforts.
They said they're going to use a lot more private contractors this year to minimize this.
C'mon, Jux. You know better than that. Your calf was sore, so you went and busted out a sub-6:30 mile??
