I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
CONGRATULATIONS GRUECD!!!Now just trim an hour 5 off that time and make a run at winningFinish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!

Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
awesome race Grue...congrats!!I was wearing out the F5 key on my computer to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!Qualifying BOSTON at BOSTON just fantastic.Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
Freakin' spectacular - heck of a run. Requalified with 1:11 to spare.Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
This was funny as hell, and went unnoticedI wanted to as well, but couldn't meet the minimum height requirement.........Today is my day to live vicariously through gru.![]()
Way to go Grue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am used to being overlooked......This was funny as hell, and went unnoticedI wanted to as well, but couldn't meet the minimum height requirement.........Today is my day to live vicariously through gru.![]()
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Way to go Grue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, man - you'd think with my little kids I'd be used to looking down, too...I am used to being overlooked......This was funny as hell, and went unnoticedI wanted to as well, but couldn't meet the minimum height requirement.........Today is my day to live vicariously through gru.![]()
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Way to go Grue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!
Great Race Chad!! I hope the experience out there was as fun as watching the updates in this thread were.Final time: 3:09:48Nailed his target pace to within 0.5 seconds per mile. Awesome!Remember, he wanted to start slow. If he wants to do the first half in 1:34:30, his pace would need to be 7:12.His pace is 7:12. Dude is a robot.Just FYI, I'm gonna try to hold back and go through the first half around 1:34-1:35, HTFU through the hills, and then take an inventory and see how I feel when I hit Boston College. If all goes well, I'll hit 3:10.
WOWFinish: 3:09:48Congrats! Simply awesome!!!I'm rooting for you, Gru.Fly like the wind, man.40K: 2:59:40
Pace: 7:15
Proj Finish: 3:09:57
Come on buddy!

Great job, PMB. You are going to have a great race just like Gru. You guys are both inspirational, and helping me set my sights higher about what is possible through consistency and perseverance (not to mention talent, though that might be in a little shorter supply for some of us than you). Are we going to be able to follow the Pig online, or is that only available for big races like Boston?I had another really solid run today. 4.5 easy miles, though I turned it up for the last mile -- did the first 3.5 at a very comfortable 8:10 pace and then came home at exactly my 7:30 target race pace for the last mile.Great Race Gru!!! Could not follow yesterday because we were at the doctors all morning, but you are giving me more motivation for the Pig. Thanks for being an excellent model of consistancy and perseverance.
Quick update for me as I have not been on in awhile.
Saturday: 4 miles at marathon Pace 7:09.
Sunday: Easy 12 miles
Yesterday: Easy 4 miles recovery
I am in taper mode and am going to mostly relax the next two weeks. I am excited about it as I already feel like I have a ton of energy from not running really long on Sunday so here we go down the home stretch.
Glad you accomplished what you set out to do.PMB: Man, you're going to kill it.Meanwhile, back among the human population, I have been trying to get some of my run fitness back after having my bike time take over for a bit. I have run a 10 miler and a 5 miler in the last 2 days. The 10 miler was at 8:20/mile over hilly terrain. Last night I did 5 miles with 2 hard ones in there - ran those in 6:58 and 6:48. Pretty happy with that.I am still preparing for my swim in May. I am going to be very close or just get over the 50k yd mark for April. The first two weeks of May will be pretty brutal with 30k done before I start tapering down a bit.Hey, guys. Quick drive-by post from the hotel's business center, but I wanted to make a point to stop and say THANKS SO MUCH for all the support yesterday. You guys are great.More details to come when I get back home, but needless to say, I'm super happy with yesterday's performance. Talk to you guys soon!!
Well, found out he carried a full size american flag the entire race. So there was lots of stopping to pose for pictures. Lol.He held it together. Unlike my buddy 3717 who has flat out asploded out there.
I am sure if you go out to Flying Pig Marathon that you should be able to track me throughout the day. I will get my bib number and post it later as I am at work and do not have that info here with me today.Great job, PMB. You are going to have a great race just like Gru. You guys are both inspirational, and helping me set my sights higher about what is possible through consistency and perseverance (not to mention talent, though that might be in a little shorter supply for some of us than you). Are we going to be able to follow the Pig online, or is that only available for big races like Boston?I had another really solid run today. 4.5 easy miles, though I turned it up for the last mile -- did the first 3.5 at a very comfortable 8:10 pace and then came home at exactly my 7:30 target race pace for the last mile.Great Race Gru!!! Could not follow yesterday because we were at the doctors all morning, but you are giving me more motivation for the Pig. Thanks for being an excellent model of consistancy and perseverance.
Quick update for me as I have not been on in awhile.
Saturday: 4 miles at marathon Pace 7:09.
Sunday: Easy 12 miles
Yesterday: Easy 4 miles recovery
I am in taper mode and am going to mostly relax the next two weeks. I am excited about it as I already feel like I have a ton of energy from not running really long on Sunday so here we go down the home stretch.
Is this him?Well, found out he carried a full size american flag the entire race. So there was lots of stopping to pose for pictures. Lol.He held it together. Unlike my buddy 3717 who has flat out asploded out there.
When I saw this (pump and run), I thought it was a speed competition that I'd be really good at. Turns out I wouldn't beI am sure if you go out to Flying Pig Marathon that you should be able to track me throughout the day. I will get my bib number and post it later as I am at work and do not have that info here with me today.Great job, PMB. You are going to have a great race just like Gru. You guys are both inspirational, and helping me set my sights higher about what is possible through consistency and perseverance (not to mention talent, though that might be in a little shorter supply for some of us than you). Are we going to be able to follow the Pig online, or is that only available for big races like Boston?I had another really solid run today. 4.5 easy miles, though I turned it up for the last mile -- did the first 3.5 at a very comfortable 8:10 pace and then came home at exactly my 7:30 target race pace for the last mile.Great Race Gru!!! Could not follow yesterday because we were at the doctors all morning, but you are giving me more motivation for the Pig. Thanks for being an excellent model of consistancy and perseverance.
Quick update for me as I have not been on in awhile.
Saturday: 4 miles at marathon Pace 7:09.
Sunday: Easy 12 miles
Yesterday: Easy 4 miles recovery
I am in taper mode and am going to mostly relax the next two weeks. I am excited about it as I already feel like I have a ton of energy from not running really long on Sunday so here we go down the home stretch.

Thanx 2Y - tho I wish we were going H2H in Chicago again this year!! (not because of the race itself tho) It's taken a while to sink in, but I have realized that I took a leap in my training at some point over the past couple of months, and I think I've reached the next level (whatever level that is). I think a big part of it is the fact that outside of my race recovery / back injury in Dec, I've been consistently running for over a year now (just about 1100 miles in the past 12 months, which is a huge increase for me). Another part is the cross-training that I've been doing consistently since Jan 8 (96 total workouts in 113 days). And yet another factor, I'm sure, is the cooler weather. I'll be interested to see how my results hold up during the summer. Anyway, I'm feeling really good and I really appreciate all of the encouragement!First off,Well, it turns out not only can I still run 17 miles, but apparently I can do it faster than I ever could before...
17 miles, 2:31:04 (8:53/mile), 159bpm ave
My hamstrings were pretty spent at the end (I'm really tired of saying that...) but my HR and energy level were still good. The last time I ran 17 miles in sub-9s was 2003 (8:56s). :flex:I have been meaning to post that you have been killing it early this year (glad we aren't going head up in Chicago this year).
My hammys are always tight - and to Ivan's point, I don't do enough stretching. I can't touch my toes without bending my legsWith the hammys, what are you taking/eating during your runs (or not taking/eating that you should)? And, once you get some food and drink in you post run, does the pain abate quick? Like it was discussed this week with the recovery run talk, the body is looking for fat to burn (slow burn or otherwise). The thighs have the most stored fat in the legs and it may just be you are emptying the tank. Also, you are probably not carbing up two days out like you would on a race weekend, so there is less in the tank to burn anyway. Now is the time to toy with you pre-race and in race routines. I'd play with this on your next longs runs to see if this changes things before you try and alter your stretching, etc.
I've been trying to do more stretches after I run, but there never seems to be enough time (and I've been doing lunges after my weekday runs for about 5 weeks now). I will also pay more attention to my carb intake before my longer runs and see what happens. I'll check out the NeoSports - thanks for the link! I think I'll just need to pull the trigger and roll with something here soon so I can get some practice time in with whatever I get. At $100 it's pretty low risk, and I need to get off the fence about it.Hey, guys. Quick drive-by post from the hotel's business center, but I wanted to make a point to stop and say THANKS SO MUCH for all the support yesterday. You guys are great.More details to come when I get back home, but needless to say, I'm super happy with yesterday's performance. Talk to you guys soon!!
Great job!Add some electrolytes to your meals leading up to race day... even just plain salt- along with the hydration.Don't race using something if you haven't tried it out and are comfortable with it in training- Aleve or otherwise.WAY TO GO GRU!!!!!!!!!!Hey guys,Got my first ever half marathon coming up on Sunday and have a question.On a few of my longer runs I've been bothered a bit by dehydration.What can I do in the next 5 days to minimize this on race day?Of course I'm continuously hitting the bottle and trying to get alot of water in each day.Any other tips or tricks? Should I switch to another drink and at what point?Any foods to make sure I eat or avoid? (Alcohol, salt, etc?)Oh, one more thing, any thoughts on taking pain relievers on race day?My ankle has been bothering me and I've been taking Aleve for it.Should I take it or not on race day? Is there another OTC pain reliver that would be better?TIA!
As I said earlier, you are getting FAST. That being said, if I were you, I would probably stick with the program that's helping you make such great improvement and not rethink your calendar to suddenly wedge a marathon in there. Just my two cents.3x 1600s today, 7:02 stretch target pace, w/400 recoveries: 6:536:556:46 Before today, I've done the 3x 1600 workout six times, and I had ONE sub-7 mile (a 6:58 in August). I may just be getting ahead of myself (and caught up in gruecd's amazing accomplishment yesterday) but I'm suddenly wishing I'd put a spring marathon on the calendar... there's one in Rockford, IL (70 minutes from my house) on May 16... hmmmmm...
No, much younger.Is this him?Well, found out he carried a full size american flag the entire race. So there was lots of stopping to pose for pictures. Lol.He held it together. Unlike my buddy 3717 who has flat out asploded out there.
Add some electrolytes to your meals leading up to race day... even just plain salt- along with the hydration.
I've just been drinking water, what would you recommend for electrolytes? Gatorade? Something better?As for hydration; it appears you are doing what you should. Just drink more than adequate amounts of whatever electrolytes you typically drink starting 3 days prior to the race and you're body will be well-hydrated.
I posted an article in this thread some billion pages and years back that said that OTC drugs do nothing more than a placebo during an event/training. Only effect is afterwards, and psychological. Need RX strength NSAID to get in the ballpark of having a real effect.Hey guys,
Got my first ever half marathon coming up on Sunday and have a question.
On a few of my longer runs I've been bothered a bit by dehydration.
What can I do in the next 5 days to minimize this on race day?
Of course I'm continuously hitting the bottle and trying to get alot of water in each day.
Any other tips or tricks?
Should I switch to another drink and at what point?
Any foods to make sure I eat or avoid? (Alcohol, salt, etc?)
Oh, one more thing, any thoughts on taking pain relievers on race day?
My ankle has been bothering me and I've been taking Aleve for it.
Should I take it or not on race day? Is there another OTC pain reliver that would be better?
TIA!
I did see it and it looks interesting...Looks like I would have to do 80% of my body weight (144) for it, but not sure what it really buys me other than the minutes off my time and I am not sure why I would want the minutes off my time unless it qualified me for boston or something like that. I first saw it and said, I could do that then thought that I would try and push it and drop the bar on my chest and be out for the marathon...that would be a great storypigskinliquors said:When I saw this (pump and run), I thought it was a speed competition that I'd be really good at. Turns out I wouldn't bepmbrown_22 said:I am sure if you go out to Flying Pig Marathon that you should be able to track me throughout the day. I will get my bib number and post it later as I am at work and do not have that info here with me today.The_Man said:Great job, PMB. You are going to have a great race just like Gru. You guys are both inspirational, and helping me set my sights higher about what is possible through consistency and perseverance (not to mention talent, though that might be in a little shorter supply for some of us than you). Are we going to be able to follow the Pig online, or is that only available for big races like Boston?I had another really solid run today. 4.5 easy miles, though I turned it up for the last mile -- did the first 3.5 at a very comfortable 8:10 pace and then came home at exactly my 7:30 target race pace for the last mile.pmbrown_22 said:Great Race Gru!!! Could not follow yesterday because we were at the doctors all morning, but you are giving me more motivation for the Pig. Thanks for being an excellent model of consistancy and perseverance.
Quick update for me as I have not been on in awhile.
Saturday: 4 miles at marathon Pace 7:09.
Sunday: Easy 12 miles
Yesterday: Easy 4 miles recovery
I am in taper mode and am going to mostly relax the next two weeks. I am excited about it as I already feel like I have a ton of energy from not running really long on Sunday so here we go down the home stretch.![]()
I take Motrin so that when my race/ride is completed, I'm in less pain. I've taken NSAID's (Naproxen) on a few occasions to aid pain during runs w/o problems, but have never used them for a long race for fear of stomach issues.culdeus said:I posted an article in this thread some billion pages and years back that said that OTC drugs do nothing more than a placebo during an event/training. Only effect is afterwards, and psychological. Need RX strength NSAID to get in the ballpark of having a real effect.
Leading up to the race, water with some sort of sports drink in the mix should be just fine (I target a gallon or so of total consuption each day). Watch/limit your caffeine and alcohol intake the couple of days before the race. The rule of thumb I found before my marathon in Dec. was about 20 oz in the morning leading up to 1 hr before start (giving you time to pee before the gun goes off), 6 oz at the start and 6 oz every 20 minutes or so during the run (depending on conditions). If drink at all of the water stops you should be in good shape. If you haven't had whatever sports drink they are serving, I wouldn't recommend drinking it during the race. If you have, then I'd drink it at every other stop. Good luck!!!Lehigh98 said:El Floppo said:Add some electrolytes to your meals leading up to race day... even just plain salt- along with the hydration.I've just been drinking water, what would you recommend for electrolytes? Gatorade? Something better?pigskinliquors said:As for hydration; it appears you are doing what you should. Just drink more than adequate amounts of whatever electrolytes you typically drink starting 3 days prior to the race and you're body will be well-hydrated.
Thanks TMThe_Man said:As I said earlier, you are getting FAST. That being said, if I were you, I would probably stick with the program that's helping you make such great improvement and not rethink your calendar to suddenly wedge a marathon in there. Just my two cents.wraith5 said:3x 1600s today, 7:02 stretch target pace, w/400 recoveries: 6:536:556:46 Before today, I've done the 3x 1600 workout six times, and I had ONE sub-7 mile (a 6:58 in August). I may just be getting ahead of myself (and caught up in gruecd's amazing accomplishment yesterday) but I'm suddenly wishing I'd put a spring marathon on the calendar... there's one in Rockford, IL (70 minutes from my house) on May 16... hmmmmm...
Regarding the marathon, honestly my biggest concern would be f'ing up my potential PR at the SoldierField10 two weeks later. I've been very focused on improving my mid-distance speed and it would suck to ruin that by "wedging in a marathon" (
at that BTW). On the other hand, I'm hitting better times now than I did when I was training for Tucson in the fall. I haven't done anything longer than the 17 I did on Saturday, but I know for a fact I could have kept going at 9's if I hadn't pushed the pace. I'm going to check out the course to see how flat it is, think on it for a few days, then decide what I want to do.The wise Yoda speaketh! I love the different opinions on the subject - I just talked to gruecd who thinks I should come to Green Bay and run the marathon up there on the 16th... which would be the only opportunity I probably will ever have to run WITH him, by the way! (he's pacing the 3:45 group!)Wraith - be patient ...I don't think you should add a marathon. You've got a good calendar of events already.
Well Gru is the marathon man. I mean you could have asked the crack dealer on the corner if you should spend your doe on drugs or put it in your retirement account.The wise Yoda speaketh! I love the different opinions on the subject - I just talked to gruecd who thinks I should come to Green Bay and run the marathon up there on the 16th... which would be the only opportunity I probably will ever have to run WITH him, by the way! (he's pacing the 3:45 group!)Wraith - be patient ...I don't think you should add a marathon. You've got a good calendar of events already.
Well Gru is the marathon man. I mean you could have asked the crack dealer on the corner if you should spend your doe on drugs or put it in your retirement account.The wise Yoda speaketh! I love the different opinions on the subject - I just talked to gruecd who thinks I should come to Green Bay and run the marathon up there on the 16th... which would be the only opportunity I probably will ever have to run WITH him, by the way! (he's pacing the 3:45 group!)Wraith - be patient ...I don't think you should add a marathon. You've got a good calendar of events already.