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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

AND, he is insanely competitive and will likely barf at the end of each of his legs from putting it all out there and has done team running relays in the Sawtooth Mountains where he has proven such.
I guess we know who will be first in line to towel him off then.------------------I have not had many running related reports as of late, but I have been steadily getting my miles in. Did 10 last night in about 14 degree weather? I love the cold weather running and would rather run in cold weather all year round if given the option, allthought constnt 50 degrees would be hard to turn down. The only problem I have with the cold weather is my stride. I seem to have to work so much harder with the layers on to get my stride where it normally is, but I can deal with it.Have a great weekend all. I am off tomorrow and am not around at all on the weekends.
 
Wow. Well, we could put your BIL and gruecd in the same van and see who can out-intensify the other. The rest of us can sip bourbon and stumble down the roads. :goodposting:
Maybe we should chug on over to mamby-pamby land where maybe we can find some confidence for you, you jackwagons!
 
I'm sure I'll get blasted, but I think I like running in the 80s than running in the 20s. This cold wind is for the friggin' birds. :thumbup:
I'd pick the 20s. When the Heat Index hits 100 my body just overheats and tilts.
Same here. I really enjoy being out there in the 20s and 30s.
Me three. But I think everyone here already knew that.Honestly, I don't think it's the cold as much as it's the wind that makes it tough. When I got home from the Bucks game last night, it was like 7 degrees outside, but there was no wind. It actually felt like it would have been comfortable weather for a run.
 
Did a short 6-mile tempo run this morning at marathon pace. I had to make myself slow down and felt like I was barely shuffling my feet but hit my pace on the money at each split. This is the first time in my training that I feel very confident I will be able to maintain my goal pace for 26.2.

 
Did an 8 mile training run this morning. Didn't feel great again but grinded it out. Outside of my right knee was a bit painful.....not the bone, but muscle/tendon thing. I'll ice it tonight.

Going to do a speed workout tomorrow.

Then a 20 mile run on Saturday. I'll shoot for an 8:30 pace on that run.

 
I'm sure I'll get blasted, but I think I like running in the 80s than running in the 20s. This cold wind is for the friggin' birds. :loco:
I'm right there with you. And I especially hate that it takes me half as long to get dressed for my run as it does to actually run. I've got headphones getting knocked out of my ears by hoods or beanies, sweatshirts knocking around the wires. It's a pain.
I was noticing that this morning after an 8 miler in the cold. Compression socks plus fleece socks over that; base plus tights plus shorts for the lower body; a few layers up top; hat; gloves. I'm pretty comfy when I'm out there, but it takes a while to peel off, and my basement has stuff hanging all over. With a temp around 15, I wear some light winter gloves (not my thinner running gloves), but pull the fingers back into a clench - they stay a lot warmer that way. It just looks a bit weird as the glove digits are flopping around. That's probably the least of my fashion-statement problems, though ...
 
OK running doctors - what's up with my hips? I've noticed an aching in my right hip and to a lesser extent my left hip. It's just enough to annoy me, but not enough to feel it while running. I've also noticed my hips seem looser and pop/snap more when I open them up in a weird angle if I'm going to pick something up off the floor, wrestling with the kids, etc. Just wondering if this is a sign of things coming, or just my hips loosening up from all of the running...

 
Did an 8 mile training run this morning. Didn't feel great again but grinded it out. Outside of my right knee was a bit painful.....not the bone, but muscle/tendon thing. I'll ice it tonight.Going to do a speed workout tomorrow. Then a 20 mile run on Saturday. I'll shoot for an 8:30 pace on that run.
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
 
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
 
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
Based on his earlier posts, I assumed the former. His marathon goal pace is 8'00" and his planned training pace for Saturday is 8'30". Basically he's doing a 20 mile tempo run on Saturday.
 
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
Based on his earlier posts, I assumed the former. His marathon goal pace is 8'00" and his planned training pace for Saturday is 8'30". Basically he's doing a 20 mile tempo run on Saturday.
How do you figure? If GMP is 8:00, then long run pace should be somewhere between 8:30 and 9:30 pace, and tempo runs would be in the 7:17-7:36 range.
 
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
Based on his earlier posts, I assumed the former. His marathon goal pace is 8'00" and his planned training pace for Saturday is 8'30". Basically he's doing a 20 mile tempo run on Saturday.
How do you figure? If GMP is 8:00, then long run pace should be somewhere between 8:30 and 9:30 pace, and tempo runs would be in the 7:17-7:36 range.
You're correct. I figured the long run would be around 9 minutes. Got biking/running terminology confused on the later (tempo)....speedwork<tempo<race pace<<long run for running.
 
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
Hmmmm....I was thinking an interval workout. Parts with faster than race speed and parts with slower (to recover). Sounds like I shouldn't. I'll just go run 5 miles at race pace (provided my knee is better.) Thanks for the feedback. Long run on Saturday (20 miles) due to family and work obligations on Sunday.
 
I am back from Orlando. Manged to be pretty productive while I was there. I had to put up with 55-65 degree weather for my runs. Yes, I know you all have sympathy for me. Manged to get a 6 miler in on Monday and a 10 miler yesterday.

Today went swimming for the first time in a week and set PRs in the 100 (1:04 from a push) and tied my 200 PR (~2:21 from a push). When I ramp up my volume next year for the Pensacola swim I'm going to be crushing some records. Ridiculous that I am able to still get faster on such low volume. Wish I could do that with the bike and run.

 
I am really working hard trying to prepare for a half marathon in April of 2011. I am not a runner. I have hated running and only ran because I was forced by the Air Force.

I started running in June of this year off and on. I really started working at it about two months ago. I run about 4-6 times a week between 2-3 miles at a time...

Here is my question for the runners here....I am getting a bad cramp just under my rib cage at about the 2.5 mile mark. I have tried eating...not eating...eating a banana...eating eggs...running at night...running in the morning.

Still getting the cramp. I was assuming that since I have been running more and more that I should be able to do this but two nights ago it was bad enough that I had to stop and walk.

Any advice?

(35 years old) if that matters.

 
I am really working hard trying to prepare for a half marathon in April of 2011. I am not a runner. I have hated running and only ran because I was forced by the Air Force.

I started running in June of this year off and on. I really started working at it about two months ago. I run about 4-6 times a week between 2-3 miles at a time...

Here is my question for the runners here....I am getting a bad cramp just under my rib cage at about the 2.5 mile mark. I have tried eating...not eating...eating a banana...eating eggs...running at night...running in the morning.

Still getting the cramp. I was assuming that since I have been running more and more that I should be able to do this but two nights ago it was bad enough that I had to stop and walk.

Any advice?

(35 years old) if that matters.
Ball cancer. So sorry - I hope you invested in good life insurance.(or maybe just a small chance of this.)

 
I am really working hard trying to prepare for a half marathon in April of 2011. I am not a runner. I have hated running and only ran because I was forced by the Air Force.

I started running in June of this year off and on. I really started working at it about two months ago. I run about 4-6 times a week between 2-3 miles at a time...

Here is my question for the runners here....I am getting a bad cramp just under my rib cage at about the 2.5 mile mark. I have tried eating...not eating...eating a banana...eating eggs...running at night...running in the morning.

Still getting the cramp. I was assuming that since I have been running more and more that I should be able to do this but two nights ago it was bad enough that I had to stop and walk.

Any advice?

(35 years old) if that matters.
Ball cancer. So sorry - I hope you invested in good life insurance.(or maybe just a small chance of this.)
Thanks for the link. It was actually helpful...unlike your initial comment.
 
I am really working hard trying to prepare for a half marathon in April of 2011. I am not a runner. I have hated running and only ran because I was forced by the Air Force.

I started running in June of this year off and on. I really started working at it about two months ago. I run about 4-6 times a week between 2-3 miles at a time...

Here is my question for the runners here....I am getting a bad cramp just under my rib cage at about the 2.5 mile mark. I have tried eating...not eating...eating a banana...eating eggs...running at night...running in the morning.

Still getting the cramp. I was assuming that since I have been running more and more that I should be able to do this but two nights ago it was bad enough that I had to stop and walk.

Any advice?

(35 years old) if that matters.
There are a lot of theories on the stitch, but I found this one to be spot on for me. For me, it's not diet related. I think it's a matter of over-exerting the diaphragm too soon/quickly. When I feel a stitch coming on, I belly breathe for the next few breaths and it goes right away.Don't mind Sand - he's a chump :rolleyes:

 
Don't mind Sand - he's a chump ;)
:lmao: But he's our chump.Tex, you might try some stretching when you're away from the running (e.g., at night) - just some gentle stretches such as getting the arms over your head and stretching out the sides. Maybe it would help, too, to do some planks, either regular ones or the side planks to build the obliques. The overall idea is to build a stronger core to support your run training. Good luck with it!

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After a bit more snow last night (on top of the ice that's out there), I went to the parking garage this morning and ran the stairs for 30 minutes. Legs felt a little mushy afterwords, which is kind of a good feeling after that workout ...I know I worked the legs over good.

 
So forgive me if I'm a little crabby today. Needed to be in Waukesha at 7 AM today for an employee benefits meeting at a company whose retirement plan I handle, and since it was snowing last night, I decided to get up early and drive down this morning. I figured the roads would still be a little slippery, so I got up at 4 AM and hit the road a little after 4:30 to make sure that I'd have enough time to get there. So I make it with time to spare, 7:00 rolls around, and ONE ####### PERSON shows up for the meeting. Seriously. Good news is that I've got Bucks tickets for tonight, so I would've eventually had to make the drive anyway, but still....I really could've used the extra two hours of sleep.

Did my first run of the week last night, 5 miles in 2" of fresh snow, followed up by the year's first shovelling session. We're supposed to get anywhere from 5-12" tomorrow, so the snowblower will get its first action of the year.

Hope you all have a great weekend!

 
ONE ####### PERSON shows up for the meeting. Seriously.
"So our company sponsored a meeting before work this morning. An investment guy drove down from Appleton to meet with us. I was the only one who showed up! It was so helpful to be able to talk to the guy ...big dude; looks like a runner. Being able to talk to him really meant a lot to me. He's probably ticked that I was the only one there, but it was important to me to get some advice and sort things out."
 
Don't mind Sand - he's a chump :mellow:
:lmao: But he's our chump.Tex, you might try some stretching when you're away from the running (e.g., at night) - just some gentle stretches such as getting the arms over your head and stretching out the sides. Maybe it would help, too, to do some planks, either regular ones or the side planks to build the obliques. The overall idea is to build a stronger core to support your run training. Good luck with it!

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After a bit more snow last night (on top of the ice that's out there), I went to the parking garage this morning and ran the stairs for 30 minutes. Legs felt a little mushy afterwords, which is kind of a good feeling after that workout ...I know I worked the legs over good.
Don't forget the lunges and buttkicks. :banned: I usually only get the sidestitch when I am not in top shape and trying to go too fast. Probably because I am breathing harder than I should. I usually just slow down a bit and ignore it until it goes away. When I am in running shape it doesn't occur.

 
no update for a while, but here's what's been happening.

I am still running 2 miles on Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday. I have increased my long run on Saturday to 4 miles, and finished the first one last week in 43:30ish. As the next month or so goes on and I continue to get back into running shape I am going to increase my weekday runs to 3 miles each. With one run each week being speed work, alternating tempo and interval runs.

My long run is not going to increase until I can average the run under 10 minute miles, without thinking I am dying. At that point I will increase it 1 mile, but for mow I think 7 miles may be the limit.

I just weighed myself for the first time in 2 months and I stand at 230.5 pounds. Not great, but better than I thought it would be after not being able to exercise for 5 weeks, and 5 pounds less than I was at my last doctor's appointment. For the last two weeks I have kept mostly to my diet. It will get much better after the Superbowl, I tend to eat too many chips and crackers during the games. But I am going to try to post my weight at some point on Fridays, as long as I have a scale available.

My only goal right now is to be ready not to make a complete fool of myself during the Bourbon Chase. I want to be able to do a 10K in the 50-55 minute range by then. And once again I am seriously considering trying for a marathon around this time next year, though since I am almost deathly afraid of putting out that much effort, I will see how it goes throughout the year.

I hope everyone and their families are well and are able to enjoy this Christmas season.

 
haven't posted in a while. Usual week has been:

M: 6-7 mile run, half on trail

T: Weights, core, stationary bike 45 minutes

W: 6-7 mile run, usually entirely trail

T: 4-7, intervals or hills (or both)

F: 1 hour swim

S: long distance, 10-18 depending on the week

S: rest

This morning was the swim, met up with a friend. Went to a kick set, 100 yards into it I cramped badly. So I went to a pull set, then 500 IM, then I was done. I figured I just cramped from the hills and intervals yesterday and probably didn't drink enough water.

Expecting baby any day now, so I'll probably take a break from workout out hard over the holidays.

 
Today's the last day of classes so it's a little bit of a ghost town. I celebrated by doing a five mile loop around campus. I really know how to paint the town red.

 
ONE ####### PERSON shows up for the meeting. Seriously.
"So our company sponsored a meeting before work this morning. An investment guy drove down from Appleton to meet with us. I was the only one who showed up! It was so helpful to be able to talk to the guy ...big dude; looks like a runner. Being able to talk to him really meant a lot to me. He's probably ticked that I was the only one there, but it was important to me to get some advice and sort things out."
Always the voice of reason, aren't you??
 
GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?

Did 5 with 3 @ HMP today and nearly froze **** off, literally. It was painful :homer:

On the plus side, I felt fantastic running wise.

 
gruecd said:
tri-man 47 said:
gruecd said:
ONE ####### PERSON shows up for the meeting. Seriously.
"So our company sponsored a meeting before work this morning. An investment guy drove down from Appleton to meet with us. I was the only one who showed up! It was so helpful to be able to talk to the guy ...big dude; looks like a runner. Being able to talk to him really meant a lot to me. He's probably ticked that I was the only one there, but it was important to me to get some advice and sort things out."
Always the voice of reason, aren't you??
:lmao: I'd have been ticked off, too.
 
Did 5 with 3 @ HMP today and nearly froze **** off, literally. It was painful :loco:
I did about the same tonight. 5 miles at near HMP (7:25/mile). No freezing body parts off, particularly that one, though. That pace is pretty smokin' for me. And I feel pretty good tonight. Hopefully I can extend that for 7 more miles come February.
 
SteelCurtain said:
Speed work followed by a long run isn't the best idea. You should have at least a day of rest between them. I'd poopcan the speed work tomorrow
It depends what he means by "speedwork." If he's talking about a tempo run or interval workout, then I'd agree. But if he's just talking about doing some mileage at MP, then I don't see anything wrong with doing a long run the next day. In fact, Hal Higdon's training plans have you doing it all the time.
Hmmmm....I was thinking an interval workout. Parts with faster than race speed and parts with slower (to recover). Sounds like I shouldn't. I'll just go run 5 miles at race pace (provided my knee is better.) Thanks for the feedback. Long run on Saturday (20 miles) due to family and work obligations on Sunday.
Today's 5 mile run was cancelled due to continued pain on the outside of my right knee. I'm hitting the ice again tonight and hope to be able to do the 20 mile run tomorrow. Ugh.:bummed:
 
4 miles this morning at 10:16 m/m, 41:02 time. Not bad, but I meant to be about 2 minutes slower. I was really feeling it at the end.

It was 48 degrees when I left, warm for you people in the north, but damn cold for central Florida. I wore my regular wicking sleeveless and shorts, then running pants (not tights, though I do own a pair) and a long sleeve running shirt. On top of that I wore a light exercise jacket that has a mesh liner. I was toasty warm the whole run. Unfortunately there is no place for the sweat to go so on a 48 degree run I sweated more than when I run at 75 degrees, and everything is completely soaked. I also wore my Adidas beanie and glove set.

 
GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?
I have something like this, http://www.amazon.com/adidas-Adidas-ClimaW.../ref=pd_sbs_a_4. Mine is older and looks different, but still made by Adidas, and it keeps my ears warm.

Actually what I bought was a gloves/cap combo. Though I can't find it online anywhere.
Not so sure I'd want to run with that covering my ####. :D Kidding, I thought he put CAP at first too. Ned, Brooks makes Runderwear. I wear these and have run in 10 below wind chills without issue. They work well with tights :P . As CAPS go, I have a Lowe Alpine hat that is made to be worn under snowmobile helmets. It is very low profile & wicking.The scale ###### me off yesterday, so to get back at it, I did a double brick on the trainer and treadmill last night, alternating 20 minutes on each. The result, still fat and now sore.

 
GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?Did 5 with 3 @ HMP today and nearly froze **** off, literally. It was painful :POn the plus side, I felt fantastic running wise.
I find if I just wear tighty whiteys and either running shorts or sweat pants I'm fine, but without the whiteys the head is frozen. 6.2 this morning, 8:15 pace out, 7:40 back
 
GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?
I have something like this, http://www.amazon.com/adidas-Adidas-ClimaW.../ref=pd_sbs_a_4. Mine is older and looks different, but still made by Adidas, and it keeps my ears warm.

Actually what I bought was a gloves/cap combo. Though I can't find it online anywhere.
Not so sure I'd want to run with that covering my ####. :D Kidding, I thought he put CAP at first too. Ned, Brooks makes Runderwear. I wear these and have run in 10 below wind chills without issue. They work well with tights :D . As CAPS go, I have a Lowe Alpine hat that is made to be worn under snowmobile helmets. It is very low profile & wicking.The scale ###### me off yesterday, so to get back at it, I did a double brick on the trainer and treadmill last night, alternating 20 minutes on each. The result, still fat and now sore.
Opps, my bad. I had only been up for about 10 minutes when I responded to his post. I really thought I read cap. :P

 
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GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?Did 5 with 3 @ HMP today and nearly froze **** off, literally. It was painful :POn the plus side, I felt fantastic running wise.
I find if I just wear tighty whiteys and either running shorts or sweat pants I'm fine, but without the whiteys the head is frozen. 6.2 this morning, 8:15 pace out, 7:40 back
I can't wear tighty whiteys and run. They cause me to not walk well afterward.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the answer wouldnt be"you are still not in running shape" but I guess I just have to keep working on it.

 
Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the answer wouldnt be"you are still not in running shape" but I guess I just have to keep working on it.
There is an old wives tale that pinching the ear lobe on the opposite side of the side stitch relieves this (and/or) stomach cramps. When I've had these, I've tried it and it has appeared to work (but is most likely psychosomatic results). Worth a shot until you fix your issues.
 
Did my planned 3 miles today. I notice the plan picks up in mileage next week. I am looking forward to it. I did my run early here as it is supposed to hit 85 :shock:

It was perfect for me early. I am guessing in the 50s to 60s. :goodposting:

I dont want to weigh myself.We had our company Christmas party yesterday afternoon and I then took my wife out to a steak house for dinner. I can hear fat growing on me. :X : I bet I ate more calories yesterday then I usually eat in a week.

 
Great 14 mile trail run this morning (two hours of running)! Drove thirty minutes to a forest preserve area I've not used before. Was able to locate a trail I found on an on-line map (bit of a challenge because of the base of snow) - slightly technical, and all rolling terrain. Thirty degree temp, so it was quite comfortable. The snow on the trail was compacted by previous runners and mountain bikers, so I was able to just cruise along. The formal marathon schedule starts on Monday, and I'm far ahead of where I need to be. I hope to keep my mileage a bit higher than the Higdon advanced plan, and to keep up on tempo runs and hill work such as today's course.
 
GD it, I'm inventing some sort of insulated running cup and making millions. Will you guys be my test group?
I have something like this, http://www.amazon.com/adidas-Adidas-ClimaW.../ref=pd_sbs_a_4. Mine is older and looks different, but still made by Adidas, and it keeps my ears warm.

Actually what I bought was a gloves/cap combo. Though I can't find it online anywhere.
Not so sure I'd want to run with that covering my ####. :D Kidding, I thought he put CAP at first too. Ned, Brooks makes Runderwear. I wear these and have run in 10 below wind chills without issue. They work well with tights :P . As CAPS go, I have a Lowe Alpine hat that is made to be worn under snowmobile helmets. It is very low profile & wicking.The scale ###### me off yesterday, so to get back at it, I did a double brick on the trainer and treadmill last night, alternating 20 minutes on each. The result, still fat and now sore.
:goodposting: I was reading Darrin's response and thinking he read caps.I so can't wait to buy these and show them off to my wife. Good times! :goodposting:

 
Great 14 mile trail run this morning (two hours of running)! Drove thirty minutes to a forest preserve area I've not used before. Was able to locate a trail I found on an on-line map (bit of a challenge because of the base of snow) - slightly technical, and all rolling terrain. Thirty degree temp, so it was quite comfortable. The snow on the trail was compacted by previous runners and mountain bikers, so I was able to just cruise along. The formal marathon schedule starts on Monday, and I'm far ahead of where I need to be. I hope to keep my mileage a bit higher than the Higdon advanced plan, and to keep up on tempo runs and hill work such as today's course.
Great job, tri. You're gonna do great in Boston. Can't wait.
 
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Bike guys, I have some questions about cleat placement. I just upgraded my pedals from SPDs to Ultegra 6700s and bought some true tri shoes to attempt to learn the clipped in flying mount out of T1 (got Carnac SFT1s). With the SPDs, I felt most comfortable with the cleat all the way at the back (towards the heel) of the shoe. I mounted up the new cleats in similar manner on the new shoes and did a 40 minute trainer ride to get a feel for them. While they felt "fine" and I spent the ride wondering if they needed to be tweaked a bit toward the front of the shoe. I also felt like my heels we pitching in towards the bike a bit. What type of "feel" should I be looking for (other than just comfort)? I loved the additional float these compared to the SPDs too. Should I move the cleat a line at the time on the shoe, or make more aggressive changes to see how it feels, and then move back closer to where it was originally?

 
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Bike guys, I have some questions about cleat placement. I just upgraded my pedals from SPDs to Ultegra 6700s and bought some true tri shoes to attempt to learn the clipped in flying mount out of T1 (got Carnac SFT1s). With the SPDs, I felt most comfortable with the cleat all the way at the back (towards the heel) of the shoe. I mounted up the new cleats in similar manner on the new shoes and did a 40 minute trainer ride to get a feel for them. While they felt "fine" and I spent the ride wondering if they needed to be tweaked a bit toward the front of the shoe. I also felt like my heels we pitching in towards the bike a bit. What type of "feel" should I be looking for (other than just comfort)? I loved the additional float these compared to the SPDs too. Should I move the cleat a line at the time on the shoe, or make more aggressive changes to see how it feels, and then move back closer to where it was originally?
Maybe start with the center of the cleat right at the ball of the foot - the default position? Then move it back toward the back as you feel like it.----On my end I managed a 9 mile run this morning. 30 degrees, 15mph winds, snow flurries. Pretty odd weather for Alabama. Tough run - 590 ft. of climbing. This makes 36 miles in the last week. By far my largest weekly volume.
 

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