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Ditto8 miles today, 21 for the week. I started out slow, and my last mile was the fastest, so I feel good about being able to increase my distance and improve my speed.Adding a mile to the long run each week, I will hit 13 miles five weeks before my race. That will give me a few extra chances to run the same distance if I want to and not be too burned out on race day. Or have a few runs exceeding the race distance as was suggested and I agree with.
I think it was hard for him to keep up on all the postings. He got a promo at work recently, and with his two boys a bit older and getting into activities, he's busy with them.
Ebbs and flows. I did give him a :finger: in an email exchange recently and got a laugh.
PR season is fast approaching....An easy 4mi recovery run today and it felt like I didn't run 15 yesterday. This is crazy - something definitely clicked. Today's run also put me over the 1,000 mark YTD.
Thanks everyone. Yeah, getting stung by a bee during the run is really strange, cause you don't know what happened, you think you got bit or something. But it's not like you can stop on the single track trail and expect some help. It was my first 10K Race, I am doing the Higdon Half Marathon plan, so I have run farther than 10K already, and I did 12K at bay breakers.Maybe I will try a tri eventually, but no bike, and the swimming is only passable.'Reginald Cornsilks said:
I did the Nor Cal Warrior Dash last year, and your report is pretty spot on. It's fun, but it should be crazier. The obstacles almost feel like rest breaks from the running.The Merrell Mud Run is similar to Warrior Dash but a little harder a believe.Tough Mudder is probably the next step up from those, it looks pretty savage, I have some friends running the next one, but not me.Spartan race looks savage though.At least you got a free beer right
and starting the race under ridiculously hot flames is actually pretty fun. Too bad they wanted so much for their race pics though. Race Pics are a racket!!Free beer! Yes!Thanks for the feedback. Let me know what your friends think of the Mudder. I'd be interested to hear their thoughts.BTW - I posted my time and place in the original posting. I finished in the top 10% of the whole race which tells me I should look for something a bit harder. I'd prefer to be in the middle of the pack.I did the Nor Cal Warrior Dash last year, and your report is pretty spot on. It's fun, but it should be crazier. The obstacles almost feel like rest breaks from the running.The Merrell Mud Run is similar to Warrior Dash but a little harder a believe.Tough Mudder is probably the next step up from those, it looks pretty savage, I have some friends running the next one, but not me.Spartan race looks savage though.At least you got a free beer right
Steel - it was an "oof" as in I just saw that 8 mile race elevation trace. That was a ##### of a course.Personally I don't get the Warrior Dash thing. Your experience mirrors what I would expect from that race.
I know it sounds crazy, even by the standards of this thread, but running with a chest cold is great. You get a really good workout even at super-slow paces with no injury risk, it loosens up a lot of the crap in your chest, and you get to feel like a badass for a day or two. Don't knock it. BNB -- Sorry about the slog. Sometimes a "bad" long run turns out to be a good springboard.
Did grue set you up with a plan? I'm curious what you're working with.Like Ivan said - sometimes these bad runs are a wake up, of sorts. I can remember having an amazing run right after a crappy run. I know you'll gut it out and be back to normal soon. :smackontheass:
We will see how it goes.I ran it Saturday and tried killing it that night with some bourbon.
He hit me up a 6 wk plan which I've modified to extend the long run distance and reduce the number of runs. Yesterday was supposed to have been an 8 miler, but I came in more rested than the plan was designed for.
You really should consider 100 runs in 100 days after the Chase. I racked up both a 5k pr and 1/2 marathon pr doing this with zero speedwork. Regardless, slow volume would be much more productive in getting your weight down. Doing speedwork while overwieght is a formula for injury.Thanks for the link. I bought pair of Brooks for 54.01.Ooh, but I did buy a bunch of running stuff tonight. Got a pair of New Balance 890s for only $62 from Running Warehouse (25% off) using this link and bought four pairs of Asics running shorts from Eastbay for $80.
I will now have 5 pairs of unused running shoes in my closet. I have a problem.
I went to the gym this morning to run for a 1 hour easy run. I got in at least 5.6 miles. after about 30 minutes the damn treadmill got a stuck key and reset everything. I started at 10:42 (5.6mph) m/m moved it up to 10:33 (5.7) after about 15 minutes. I did the last 30 at 5.7. I should have probably gone faster because it felt effortless. Afterward I wasn't even breathing hard.
I decided for sure that once the chase is over I am going to concentrate on shorter distance races for the next year. I want to work on getting my wieght down further and get a lot faster before I try to tackle another half or a full marathon.
I disagree with this. Not from a running perspective (where I'm far from qualified to offer an opinion), but from a weight loss perspective/fitness perspective. Darrin has to do what he thinks best, and I do think he courts injury if he does too much speed work, but I also think he courts injury by piling up the miles (and I think it's really counter-productive to his weight loss as it's going to overload his body with stress hormones). If he had to choose, I'd say that he'd be better served by doing two intense speed workouts a week and walking the rest of the days than by running every day. All I have is my N+1 experience, but I'm a lot faster today pushing 40 than I was when I was 30. I was doing between 30-40 miles a week back then (and still couldn't get below 225 lbs our so, no matter how much I ran). Now, I might do 15 on a heavy week. But more relevantly, I can remember many, many days where the days after my runs and workouts were pure torture back then. And I never feel like that now.
How was the weather for your 14 miler? Perhaps too muggy?Interesting that you were scheduled for an 8 miler and thats about when your pace dropped a bit. Hey, we all have crappy runs. Just hop back on the horse and kick some rear end this week!
If you're doing 7.25 in 60 minutes now at that low a HR, you could surely do a sub-50 minute 10K tomorrow if you had to.
No ####. Way to go scooby! 8:16 pace for 7mi is flyin' at that HR. And it was muggy??
I'd suggest creating an account on Runners World's message boards and asking the same question there. They've got such a geographically diverse audience that I'd be willing to bet someone can help you out.
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----Good post-race lunchtime run. Wanted to keep it easy, but HR got up there pretty quick (darn heat). 7:59/mile average for 5 miles. Only 82 or so out - very mild for here around this time of year. Sadly it won't stay this cool for long.Thanks! Thats a good idea. Just did it and hopefully I posted in the right forum to get responses. (Did it in the "Letters and Opinions" section.)Gruecd - I see you have a race this weekend. Tell us about it. Relay, eh? Which segments are you running? Any goals or just getting some training in with friends?
Steel: My first career was on cruise ships, and I ran in more than 100 different ports around the world including Aruba. While I have little recall in where I ran in Aruba, my typical game plan was to run an out and back for places I wasn't familiar with. This was back in the olden days, so I didn't have a Garmin. I'd run a certain time out, and try to beat it on the way back. On many instances, I was getting my run out of the way as late as possible, before the ship set sail. It's great motivation to be miles from the ship, knowing that if you don't get back fast, you'll miss it. Some of my best runs have been in ports where I got lost on my route back, and had to find my way back. Good times.
Umm, yeah. I would not recommend "L&O" (kinda like the FFA without the moderators). Try the "Marathoners" forum.Yeah, it's a 195-mile, 12-person team relay. This will be my 3rd year doing it. Everybody else on my team is from the Twin Cities, and at this point I don't even know what legs I'm doing. I'm kinda just along for the ride. I know I'm doing a track workout tomorrow, and I'm hoping to run 18 when I get back on Sunday, so I really don't have any particular goals for the relay legs. I only see these people 1-2 times/year, so it's more social than anything.I'll drive up to the Cities on Thursday afternoon and have dinner/drinks with my sister and her friends. I'll get up at 5-5:30 on Friday, and then I probably won't get any significant sleep until sometime Saturday afternoon after we finish. Gonna grab a quick nap after we're done and then drive the 4-1/2 hours back home. That will be the real challenge.Should hit 75 miles this week, which will be a new mileage PR for me.
I HTFU and did this. I did the 8 mile GA run but I did it by HR. I lost 5 lbs on this run. Dang hot out there. I am really expecting this to pay off when it cools down. I am really sore from this. avg HR was kept at 151. It was not to hard to keep that avg for the first 5 miles but the last 3 I really had to go slow to keep it there. I ended with a avg pace 13.27I really did not want to do this but I am very happy I did.I am supposed to do 8 miles today. It is currently 104 with 19% humidity. Also some possible monsoon action. I dont know what to do. It is so ####### hot out but I know I will be hating myself if i dont go out.
Dude, you seriously need to start drinking more fluids on your runs. There's a difference between HTFU and stupidity.P.S. Sorry for the tough love.I HTFU and did this. I did the 8 mile GA run but I did it by HR. I lost 5 lbs on this run. Dang hot out there. I am really expecting this to pay off when it cools down. I am really sore from this. avg HR was kept at 151. It was not to hard to keep that avg for the first 5 miles but the last 3 I really had to go slow to keep it there. I ended with a avg pace 13.27I really did not want to do this but I am very happy I did.I am supposed to do 8 miles today. It is currently 104 with 19% humidity. Also some possible monsoon action. I dont know what to do. It is so ####### hot out but I know I will be hating myself if i dont go out.
Is it the weight loss that makes you say that? I had my hand held amphipod with me and I was rationing for sure. At one point I was running holding some water in my mouth. I was thinking of those indians in copper canyon I read about.Dude, you seriously need to start drinking more fluids on your runs. There's a difference between HTFU and stupidity.P.S. Sorry for the tough love.I HTFU and did this. I did the 8 mile GA run but I did it by HR. I lost 5 lbs on this run. Dang hot out there. I am really expecting this to pay off when it cools down. I am really sore from this. avg HR was kept at 151. It was not to hard to keep that avg for the first 5 miles but the last 3 I really had to go slow to keep it there. I ended with a avg pace 13.27I really did not want to do this but I am very happy I did.I am supposed to do 8 miles today. It is currently 104 with 19% humidity. Also some possible monsoon action. I dont know what to do. It is so ####### hot out but I know I will be hating myself if i dont go out.
I felt like I had enough water but I admit it was close.
Yes. Losing 5 pounds on an 8-mile run is ridiculous.On some of my 10- and 12-mile runs a couple of weeks ago, I'd stop to refill my 20-ounce heldheld 2-3 times.
I dont come close to drinking that much. I need to come up with a better plan. I really want one of those belts. I tried the camel back but it tore up my back pretty good.
Well until you get a belt, start running shorter loops that run past your house. Put a cooler with a couple bottles of Gatorade in your driveway, and that way it won't take long to stop and refill.
Just snuck a peek at the responses you've gotten so far in L&O. Pretty funny, but not incredibly helpful.
Sorry Grue - it really isn't. It depends on how much of a sweater he is. For example, if you drank 3 20-oz bottles during this 8 mile run you are putting back in ~4lbs. Personally in that weather I'd still lose 5lbs. In hot summer I tend to lose a bit more than a lb/mile. You can only replenish at a certain rate, so it is well within the realm for him to lose substantial weight in this weather.(Last summer I lost 9 lbs on a 10 mile run, despite having some water along the way. That was indeed ridiculous - and a sufferfest).
Prosopis, just keep a good focus on how you replenish. Consider, for example, a Muscle Milk or G3 that have protein and other nutrients in them. I.e., don't just come home and pound water. Also, don't feel like you've got to drink a ton right after the run. I find my need for fluids continues for a number of hours after a really long/hot run. Use your pee color as a gauge. If it's, uh, colorful, keep drinking!
The first one I did I got beat by 2 8 year olds and at least one 11 year old.The one 8 year old (boy) and 11 year old girl were brother/sister. They and their parents ran about a 24:35 I think.Felt compelled to share this just because my buddy and I were laughing about it on Saturday night.
There was a 7-year-old girl who ran 25:07 at a local 5K here last month. Yes, she was 7 years old, and she ran 25:07.
I know her parents, and they're both locally competitive runners (her dad ran 17:45 in this same race while pushing her younger brother in a baby stroller), but still. Unbe-#######-lievable.
I have pretty distinct strike points for carrying water. Winter - an hour. Summer, 30-45 minutes, depending on how nasty it is.
I took 60 oz with me yesterday and still lost 7 lbs after drinking an add'l 16 oz after I got home. I'd need to haul around a quarter barrel to stay level the way weather is pounding us.
