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Great run. You really kicked it in the last .1. And congrats on the top of the podium.
I agree with everyone else. Welcome to the thread.I would echo what others have said.Maybe spread out the runs a bit more.Add some slower longer runs in...then build in a speed day to work on increasing that team.Easier to run 1 mile at 8 minutes if you are used to running a bit further (even if its a little slower per mile in the longer runs).Thanks for the welcomes and tips.Looking forward to learning from the group here.
You sure can fly, sir!!St. Mary of Gostyn's 5K Race Report
This was really just a small (250ish?) local 5K fundraiser in one of the Chicago suburbs. But as mentioned, my 22 y.o. daughter wanted to see me race before she heads to Sydney for the next year. It was a nice morning with her (after a great afternoon in the city with her yesterday ...how cool is it when your grown daughter casually links arm in arm while strolling through Chicago's Millenium Park?). It was a bit warm for a race (70 or so) and somewhat humid. The course had a fair amount of undulation, but nothing that would be considered more than just an incline/slope.
Time: 20:50 (6:43/mile, avg HR of 174)
Overall: 13th
Age Group: 1st (of only 3)
mile 1: 6:43, 164 HR
mile 2: 6:49, 176 HR
mile 3: 6:48, 183 HR
final .1: 6:01 pace, 185 HR
This was my best time of the year for four 5Ks despite some heat and rolling terrain. I have a couple more 5Ks yet this year to try and bring the time down further. I'd really like to knock off 15 seconds to beat my 5K time from ten years ago in this run-focused season.
Man, get yourself to a flat course with 50 degree weather and you are sub 20. Killer run.'tri-man 47 said:Time: 20:50 (6:43/mile, avg HR of 174)
'Ned said:You sure can fly, sir!!'tri-man 47 said:St. Mary of Gostyn's 5K Race Report
This was really just a small (250ish?) local 5K fundraiser in one of the Chicago suburbs. But as mentioned, my 22 y.o. daughter wanted to see me race before she heads to Sydney for the next year. It was a nice morning with her (after a great afternoon in the city with her yesterday ...how cool is it when your grown daughter casually links arm in arm while strolling through Chicago's Millenium Park?). It was a bit warm for a race (70 or so) and somewhat humid. The course had a fair amount of undulation, but nothing that would be considered more than just an incline/slope.
Time: 20:50 (6:43/mile, avg HR of 174)
Overall: 13th
Age Group: 1st (of only 3)
mile 1: 6:43, 164 HR
mile 2: 6:49, 176 HR
mile 3: 6:48, 183 HR
final .1: 6:01 pace, 185 HR
This was my best time of the year for four 5Ks despite some heat and rolling terrain. I have a couple more 5Ks yet this year to try and bring the time down further. I'd really like to knock off 15 seconds to beat my 5K time from ten years ago in this run-focused season.

Fixed. Just had to do it. First-ever 80 mile week.'gruecd said:Week in review:
M - 9 miles at 7:40/mile
T - 7.5 at 8:15
W - 15 at 8:09
T - 12 at 7:17 (3 tempo at 6:22/:25/:25)
F - 7 rec at 8:48 (am), 4 rec at 8:20 (pm)
S - 21 at 7:54
S - SRD 4.5 rec at 8:30
Total - 75.5 80

Fixed. Just had to do it. First-ever 80 mile week.'gruecd said:Week in review:
M - 9 miles at 7:40/mile
T - 7.5 at 8:15
W - 15 at 8:09
T - 12 at 7:17 (3 tempo at 6:22/:25/:25)
F - 7 rec at 8:48 (am), 4 rec at 8:20 (pm)
S - 21 at 7:54
S - SRD 4.5 rec at 8:30
Total - 75.5 80![]()
You are the man. That is a lot of running for 1 week.Good gravy, man. I really could have used you for my run today.Fixed. Just had to do it. First-ever 80 mile week.![]()
Mile 1 - 8:56 135 HR
you junky. I'm grinnin' over breaking 160 for August and here you knocked out half that in a week.
Thanks Ned. What's the basic concept behind tracking HR? Is it "just to know" or are you actively doing things to influence the results?jamny - You just described me to a T. I've fizzled out on a lot of workout fads. I think the one thing that's kept me going with running is setting mid-term goals (races) and structuring a rigid plan to follow that gets me to the starting line. I am so hooked now it's just become an every day thing for me. Yes HR = Heart Rate. Many/most of us run with Garmins that have HR monitors on them. I've become the HR preacher in here. I am a true believer. If you become interested in it, I'll be more than happy to show ya the ropes.
Agreed...and I have no problem with that.Not even sure how many halfs I will continue to run.sho nuff -- You can train for just about any sub-marathon event you'd like on 25 miles per week. That's a good fitness base that should allow you do a half, for instance, on short notice if you wanted to. It's not like the marathon is the only event out there.
I hear ya. These issues are why I didn't even think about a marathon until I was ..old, and why I took a ten year break from triathlons. Instead, as the kids were growing, I just did races in the 5K - 10 mile range. Family first.--I just don't have the time to put in the type of miles Id need to be ready for one. Its hard enough putting in 25 miles with a job and 2 kids (and soccer and cub scouts and whatever dance or gymnastics my daughter will end up in...plus football is about to start for real).
Next will be getting into a Duathlon possibly...have a friend that just started into this and may give it a shot.Have to get a bit better on the bike first (and a real road bike and not this mountain bike Ive got).I hear ya. These issues are why I didn't even think about a marathon until I was ..old, and why I took a ten year break from triathlons. Instead, as the kids were growing, I just did races in the 5K - 10 mile range. Family first.
Thanks Ned. What's the basic concept behind tracking HR? Is it "just to know" or are you actively doing things to influence the results?jamny - You just described me to a T. I've fizzled out on a lot of workout fads. I think the one thing that's kept me going with running is setting mid-term goals (races) and structuring a rigid plan to follow that gets me to the starting line. I am so hooked now it's just become an every day thing for me. Yes HR = Heart Rate. Many/most of us run with Garmins that have HR monitors on them. I've become the HR preacher in here. I am a true believer. If you become interested in it, I'll be more than happy to show ya the ropes.
Tri just summed it up perfectly right there. The basic idea is to train within certain HR zones to get a specific workout in. Each zone is based on your max HR or HR reserve. Here's a good articleBetter to use the body's data than forcing an artificial pace or time that our mind tells us is 'right.'
Just one of those days. It was also possible that my rear brake was dragging - not sure on that, but it would explain some things. Either way I was about ready to be done about 2 miles into the bike. Just a bad day. Eff it.Next up is a 10 mile time trial Thursday (really looking forward to that). Then the Bourbon. Bike riding goes down and running way up starting this week. Of course it is predicted to be 99 for the bulk of the week. :XSand -- Sorry about the run/bike. Was there something in particular that didn't go right (besides the side stitches) or was it just one of those days?
Thanks for the clarification and link, tri and Ned. It's definitely something I'll look in to as I get more involved. For my change of pace today I did the Week One of the Couch to 5K plan. 60 seconds jog, 90 seconds walk, repeat for 20 minutes. I finished with once around the quarter-mile track. It was nice to have some shade from the trees and the time went much faster.Thanks Ned. What's the basic concept behind tracking HR? Is it "just to know" or are you actively doing things to influence the results?jamny - You just described me to a T. I've fizzled out on a lot of workout fads. I think the one thing that's kept me going with running is setting mid-term goals (races) and structuring a rigid plan to follow that gets me to the starting line. I am so hooked now it's just become an every day thing for me. Yes HR = Heart Rate. Many/most of us run with Garmins that have HR monitors on them. I've become the HR preacher in here. I am a true believer. If you become interested in it, I'll be more than happy to show ya the ropes.Tri just summed it up perfectly right there. The basic idea is to train within certain HR zones to get a specific workout in. Each zone is based on your max HR or HR reserve. Here's a good articleBetter to use the body's data than forcing an artificial pace or time that our mind tells us is 'right.'
Hey there scoob. I'm training at 220 and it would take me 1:10 to 1:20 to burn 1000 calories depending on hr. I think most of the gym equipment mfg bump their calorie punction for marketing purposes.Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but intake is the easiest way to crack this nut.The Garmin uses "First Beat" technology which makes assumptions about your VO2Max based more heavily on heart rate data and on your own response to how frequently you work out. They claim it is more accurate. If so, I have no idea how the hell to burn 1000 calories every cardio workout. I'd have to go over 90 minutes each time and I'm already getting home at 9PM to get these workouts in.THey probably use different formulas.And Id guess the garmin knows your height/weight and had the HR information where the TM did not?There's also a huge disconnect between the calories the treadmill thought I burned (1050) and what the Garmin thought I burned (630).
Super jealous. I am sitting here trying to work myself up to do an 8 mile GA run in 108 degrees.75 degrees + 42% humidity = havta run. I did an easy 4mi recovery run and really enjoyed the weather. C'mon Fall, get here!138 HR @ 9:46

I got this 8 miles done. I continue to do the HR training. Interesting that tonights run was pretty comparable to last weeks same run but I felt much better today. I was a little surprised that the numbers were about the same. I will take the feeling better though. I did get home in the dark and I think the temps are starting to fall faster when the sun goes down. At least I hope they are.Super jealous. I am sitting here trying to work myself up to do an 8 mile GA run in 108 degrees.75 degrees + 42% humidity = havta run. I did an easy 4mi recovery run and really enjoyed the weather. C'mon Fall, get here!138 HR @ 9:46![]()
prosopis, you gotta have some hills or slopes or something out there on one of the roads by the desert. It wouldn't hurt to take a small cooler with some fluid bottles inside and just do some hill repeats. The extra effort of the hills/inclines will negate the lost effort of not doing a continuous run.Super jealous. I am sitting here trying to work myself up to do an 8 mile GA run in 108 degrees.75 degrees + 42% humidity = havta run. I did an easy 4mi recovery run and really enjoyed the weather. C'mon Fall, get here!138 HR @ 9:46![]()
Details on your mileage, times, and training temperatures...and goals.Can I get some tips on how to increase speed? I've been steadily increasing my mileage over the last few months, but have noticed essentially no decrease in mile times. I tend to mix in a bit of interval training along with my longer runs, which I thought might result in some speed increase, but haven't noticed much. Any tips?
How much mileage per week and what are the temperatures like where you are? If you are anything like the rest of us just keep running and ask yourself this question when we hit November.Can I get some tips on how to increase speed? I've been steadily increasing my mileage over the last few months, but have noticed essentially no decrease in mile times. I tend to mix in a bit of interval training along with my longer runs, which I thought might result in some speed increase, but haven't noticed much. Any tips?
Nope...not too far from the interstate...wondering if there was a hit and run or someone of interest pulled off the interstate and into our area.Whatever it was...I was not about to stay out there (especially with the wife and kids at home with the front door unlocked).Sho Nuff - do you live by a state or federal incarceration facility?
Good job on the run. Good luck on the 12/7. I am fairly certain that he meant the 3-4 days if the running is only used for exercise. You know, a nice leisurely jog, 8:30 miles for you.What's good, people? Not much new to report here. Loooong day at work yesterday, so I didn't get out until almost 8:30 PM for my run. I was originally planning on doing 9, but I re-worked the schedule so I only had to do 7. Dreaded getting out there, but once I got started, my legs actually felt really, really good. I'd only run 4.5 miles since Saturday morning, and it obviously helped. Ended up being an impromptu progression run, averaging 7:53/mile, but with every mile faster than the last and the final three miles at 7:41/:28/:17.
Not exactly sure what I'm going to do tonight. I'm thinking maybe a do-over of last week's 12/7T, but it'll be too warm for that kind of effort early, and we've got our Bourbon Chase conference call at 8:30, so if I do it, I probably won't even start until after 9:00. I might just bag it, run 12 GA, and let Saturday's half marathon be my workout for the week. We'll see.
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Darrin - I don't know why, but I was annoyed by your doctor's statement that running 3-4x/week is "optimal" for exercise. I bet he's a non-runner.
You mean your max HR?HRM guys - Your logic is totally valid, but SteelCurtain does have point; no one's ever asked me about my heart rate PR!![]()
No, I just meant that training by HR is nice, but when it all comes down to it, it's your time/pace that matters. When people ask how I did at a race, then want to know my time, not my average HR.I was more joking around than anything. Never good when you have to explain your jokes...You mean your max HR?HRM guys - Your logic is totally valid, but SteelCurtain does have point; no one's ever asked me about my heart rate PR!![]()
I caught the lighthearted tone (no pun intended).'gruecd said:No, I just meant that training by HR is nice, but when it all comes down to it, it's your time/pace that matters. When people ask how I did at a race, then want to know my time, not my average HR.'Ned said:You mean your max HR?'gruecd said:HRM guys - Your logic is totally valid, but SteelCurtain does have point; no one's ever asked me about my heart rate PR!![]()