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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

For those of you wanting to BQ and needing an edge, I give you the Ridge to Bridge Marathon.http://media.wix.com/ugd/832025_dd6004c7a9db31b1938749974219cc6f.pdf?dn=2011_r2b_marathon_overall.pdf32% BQ'd on this certified course. It has 2300+ ft of descent. Here's the website for a half which overlaps the course.http://www.thescream.blueridgemultisports.com/info.html
Man that course would tear up your quads!
 
For those of you wanting to BQ and needing an edge, I give you the Ridge to Bridge Marathon.http://media.wix.com/ugd/832025_dd6004c7a9db31b1938749974219cc6f.pdf?dn=2011_r2b_marathon_overall.pdf32% BQ'd on this certified course. It has 2300+ ft of descent. Here's the website for a half which overlaps the course.http://www.thescream.blueridgemultisports.com/info.html
Man that course would tear up your quads!
My knees suddenly ache after reading that.
 
I'll be getting some yoga in tonight as well, as my original mini-van mommy is a yoga instructor and masseuse. She's kid free tonight, so I'm letting her put me into a bunch of positions throughout the evening, which should be a darn good workout.
I envy PSL. The only contorted positions I'm getting into with my wife tonight will include a stepladder, pine sap, and profanity as I string thousands of lights. And good job on the 100-mile week. That's impressive too.jb - you are going to have a great race. I echo what others have said about taking it relatively easy for the first 5 miles and then speed up from there. You'll finish with a better time and get the satisfaction of passing people instead of being passed. Save the adrenaline for the last few miles when you really need it.

PMB - so let me get this straight? You tie the laces that go on top of the shoes? Great job on getting back into it. As you know, getting started is the hardest part and now you're rolling again.

BnB - thanks for that interesting read.

Darrin - hang in there and feel better soon. I know it's frustrating to lose your current fitness, but don't let that frustration turn into an excuse not to try once your back allows. You might find the time off has done your legs a world of good.

Shonuff - you sound like you are in the middle of a great stretch of training right now. Keep it up!

Ned - good job on the recovery. I'm right there with you.

Sand - sorry about the lungs. Good luck with the new pair!

Grue - is there a Clydesdale Division for yoga?

I am one highly motivated runner right now. Did 4 more recovery miles this morning and banged out the last 3 at what turned out to be a comfortable 8:00 pace. Legs felt great while I was running - right now I'm feeling them a bit more than I normally would after 4 miles, but no pain, just a little tired. Trying to keep the momentum going and have told myself to think of last Saturday not as the end of anything, but rather as a 26.2-mile run at Goal Marathon Pace. Well, more like a 24-mile GMP run with a 2.2-mile cooldown, but you get the idea. Sticking with the Pfitz recovery plan so my only run this weekend will be a 5-mile recovery run, but I am eager to get back at it.

 
The_Man

Not sure about a great stretch...but after a change in philosophy after some bad runs...just more fun training.

Taking this month as a time to not stress about what types of runs (and earlier this was more of an issue as it made me not be motivated)...but now I have welcomed that and started to have fun with these runs instead.

There are still goals involved in them...but less about "speed on Monday...Tempo here...GA here....long run here". Still doing long runs on Saturdays...but leaving the runs in the week be a bit more free and enjoying them.

 
question for the bike guys: My son has expressed interest in getting an indoor bike trainer for Christmas. He's 14, not a hard core cycling guy at all, but will ride his bike 25 miles on the bikepath while I'm doing my long runs. Any suggestions on what would be good to put in the basement and use with his Mountain Bike for the winter?

This one looks o.k. It's basically the cheapest, but I'm not looking for anything hard core. Thanks!

 
question for the bike guys: My son has expressed interest in getting an indoor bike trainer for Christmas. He's 14, not a hard core cycling guy at all, but will ride his bike 25 miles on the bikepath while I'm doing my long runs. Any suggestions on what would be good to put in the basement and use with his Mountain Bike for the winter?

This one looks o.k. It's basically the cheapest, but I'm not looking for anything hard core. Thanks!
That is all you'd need and can find lots of similar ones for less, used, on eBay. Only drawback is it'll be a bit loud. You do not want to have him use a MTB Tire on the trainer. Get a cheap "slick" on there and it'll cut the noise and provide a smoother, more constant contact. Any local bike shop should pop the tire on for you (hopefully at no cost) if you are not comfortable putting it on.eta, just remembered, you may also have to purchase a cheap ($10 to $15) skewer that fits the trainer too. Most don't fit trainers and the LBS can help with this as well.

 
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Sand - are you sick or are you playing too much Skyrim. I don't have the game, but have been watching the thread.
Playing Skyrim because I can't run. I'd rather be outside. And I'd rather be home healing up than stuck at work. I'd even settle for enough time to go to a doctor, but I can't even find time to do that.Enough whining - have a good weekend all!
 
question for the bike guys: My son has expressed interest in getting an indoor bike trainer for Christmas. He's 14, not a hard core cycling guy at all, but will ride his bike 25 miles on the bikepath while I'm doing my long runs. Any suggestions on what would be good to put in the basement and use with his Mountain Bike for the winter?

This one looks o.k. It's basically the cheapest, but I'm not looking for anything hard core. Thanks!
That is all you'd need and can find lots of similar ones for less, used, on eBay. Only drawback is it'll be a bit loud. You do not want to have him use a MTB Tire on the trainer. Get a cheap "slick" on there and it'll cut the noise and provide a smoother, more constant contact. Any local bike shop should pop the tire on for you (hopefully at no cost) if you are not comfortable putting it on.eta, just remembered, you may also have to purchase a cheap ($10 to $15) skewer that fits the trainer too. Most don't fit trainers and the LBS can help with this as well.
Good Posting 2YOung! I am not a fan of Bell anything, though that trainer would likely be more than fine. If you don't mind spending a wee bit more scratch, this is going to be sturdier, and likely quite a bit superior. It also has three levels vs. I believe just one for the Bell, so that he has more options to find his sweet spot. I also recommend that you purchase a riser, for the front wheel as well, and make sure you have a mat or large towel to put under him to capture massive amounts of sweat!

 
Sand - are you sick or are you playing too much Skyrim. I don't have the game, but have been watching the thread.
Playing Skyrim because I can't run. I'd rather be outside. And I'd rather be home healing up than stuck at work. I'd even settle for enough time to go to a doctor, but I can't even find time to do that.Enough whining - have a good weekend all!
Sand: does your husband by chance have any free time? Maybe you could get him to do some of your work so you can play, go to the Dr. and heal ;) Hope you are better soon Bud.
 
question for the bike guys: My son has expressed interest in getting an indoor bike trainer for Christmas. He's 14, not a hard core cycling guy at all, but will ride his bike 25 miles on the bikepath while I'm doing my long runs. Any suggestions on what would be good to put in the basement and use with his Mountain Bike for the winter?

This one looks o.k. It's basically the cheapest, but I'm not looking for anything hard core. Thanks!
That is all you'd need and can find lots of similar ones for less, used, on eBay. Only drawback is it'll be a bit loud. You do not want to have him use a MTB Tire on the trainer. Get a cheap "slick" on there and it'll cut the noise and provide a smoother, more constant contact. Any local bike shop should pop the tire on for you (hopefully at no cost) if you are not comfortable putting it on.eta, just remembered, you may also have to purchase a cheap ($10 to $15) skewer that fits the trainer too. Most don't fit trainers and the LBS can help with this as well.
Good Posting 2YOung! I am not a fan of Bell anything, though that trainer would likely be more than fine. If you don't mind spending a wee bit more scratch, this is going to be sturdier, and likely quite a bit superior. It also has three levels vs. I believe just one for the Bell, so that he has more options to find his sweet spot. I also recommend that you purchase a riser, for the front wheel as well, and make sure you have a mat or large towel to put under him to capture massive amounts of sweat!
Any chance The_Man is using his son as a smoke screen to hide his budding desire to come to the dark-side of Triathlon :devil: For a MTB, a couple of 2X6s stacked make a good riser for free if there are some available and the Knobby on the MTB front tire should keep it from wobbling too much.

 
I haven't checked in around here for a while, mainly because I don't have much to report, but it's good to see everybody else coming along with race recovery and whatnot. Got in a really nice 11 miles today that flew right by -- 5 recovery on tap for tomorrow.

 
Alright trail runners, I need some help on shoe selection. My first 'A' race of 2012 (April) is going to be a trail triple crown (HM + 10K + 5K). I obviously don't want to run this in regular trainers, so looking for suggestions on good trail shoes. Hopefully I find a good pair right away so I can stock up on them as I'll most likely need a change of shoes at race day.Also what are those special treads called for ice/snow? Since I'm going to have to do all of my training in the winter, I'm going to need those bad boys sooner or later.
I also picked up a pair of Brooks Cascadia recently and are by far the best trail shoes I've had. They have a funky sole that somehow finds traction even on leaves. Killer ankle stability too. The covers are called Yak Trax. I have a pair of the Yak Trax brand name, but I had heard that Costco had a generic for less. Be careful with these at first. I found that my calves killed after the first few runs with these as they do not let you foot roll like it normally does. There is a lot more grab and pull. I saw this more running in 6+ inches of snow than on packed snow and/or ice.
:thumbup: :thumbup: I ended up with a pair of cascadias tonight. These felt fantastic and felt better than my gel cumulus 13's. I liked them so much that I tried and walked away with a pair of ghosts too. Can't wait to take them for a spin.
 
Alright trail runners, I need some help on shoe selection. My first 'A' race of 2012 (April) is going to be a trail triple crown (HM + 10K + 5K). I obviously don't want to run this in regular trainers, so looking for suggestions on good trail shoes. Hopefully I find a good pair right away so I can stock up on them as I'll most likely need a change of shoes at race day.

Also what are those special treads called for ice/snow? Since I'm going to have to do all of my training in the winter, I'm going to need those bad boys sooner or later.
I also picked up a pair of Brooks Cascadia recently and are by far the best trail shoes I've had. They have a funky sole that somehow finds traction even on leaves. Killer ankle stability too. The covers are called Yak Trax. I have a pair of the Yak Trax brand name, but I had heard that Costco had a generic for less. Be careful with these at first. I found that my calves killed after the first few runs with these as they do not let you foot roll like it normally does. There is a lot more grab and pull. I saw this more running in 6+ inches of snow than on packed snow and/or ice.
:thumbup: :thumbup: I ended up with a pair of cascadias tonight. These felt fantastic and felt better than my gel cumulus 13's. I liked them so much that I tried and walked away with a pair of ghosts too. Can't wait to take them for a spin.
Isn't the tread strange compared to any other trail shoe? Almost like a soft spike on a golf shoe. I knew they would be stable and provide decent grip, but was blown away by just how much grip they have. And, I was also surprised at how light they are.
 
Alright trail runners, I need some help on shoe selection. My first 'A' race of 2012 (April) is going to be a trail triple crown (HM + 10K + 5K). I obviously don't want to run this in regular trainers, so looking for suggestions on good trail shoes. Hopefully I find a good pair right away so I can stock up on them as I'll most likely need a change of shoes at race day.

Also what are those special treads called for ice/snow? Since I'm going to have to do all of my training in the winter, I'm going to need those bad boys sooner or later.
I also picked up a pair of Brooks Cascadia recently and are by far the best trail shoes I've had. They have a funky sole that somehow finds traction even on leaves. Killer ankle stability too. The covers are called Yak Trax. I have a pair of the Yak Trax brand name, but I had heard that Costco had a generic for less. Be careful with these at first. I found that my calves killed after the first few runs with these as they do not let you foot roll like it normally does. There is a lot more grab and pull. I saw this more running in 6+ inches of snow than on packed snow and/or ice.
:thumbup: :thumbup: I ended up with a pair of cascadias tonight. These felt fantastic and felt better than my gel cumulus 13's. I liked them so much that I tried and walked away with a pair of ghosts too. Can't wait to take them for a spin.
Isn't the tread strange compared to any other trail shoe? Almost like a soft spike on a golf shoe. I knew they would be stable and provide decent grip, but was blown away by just how much grip they have. And, I was also surprised at how light they are.
Thats the first thing i noticed. You could easily play golf in them. It was also cool how they laced up. Once I tightened them they stayed put without me tieing them.
 
New bike for PSLhttp://www.thepostgame.com/blog/pulse/201112/ring-my-bell-new-bike-reads-your-mind
Awesome! Though I'm guessing the thoughts that go on in my mind would make that little computer blush instead of shiftIvank: nice to have 11 go by with a :yawn:Ned/2Young: when I was young I used to see how quickly I could get a round of golf in by running between shots and only carrying 3 clubs. Those shoes would have been nice to have!______________My update:I got a quick 15 mile bike ride in after work last night prior to getting ready to go out. Winds were 20+ and i worked my ### off to average 19.7 MPH. I quickly got ready and headed out for my yoga session. I'm just now getting home from it and am getting ready to fight 20+ mph winds to go over 100 for the week. I'm living off just a couple hour nap from 2-4 am and just hope to survive this ride.
 
I meant to take today off but the weather is perfect and I couldn't help myself. I did about 5.5. I didn't expect to make it without walking but I finished it pretty easily with some leftover at the end. The elliptical work I've been putting in seems to be paying dividends.

 
My daughter pulled in a 4th for her age group, meanwhile dad pulled up lame with a sore achilles and walked the rest. Damn it hurts now.

 
In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way.

I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08!

8 freakin seconds!

I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit.

The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.

 
In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way. I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08! 8 freakin seconds!I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit. The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.
Awesome time :thumbup: As far as the HR- I have had mine say I was over 200 at times. Wehad a pretty lengthy discussion about monitors and how we can get false readings. If you never had the feeling like you had to quit then I doubt your HR hit 196. Then again you could be a mutant who runs comfortably at 196 :shrug:
 
SofaKings - sorry to hear about the achilles. Be careful with that. Congrats to your daughter, though!

jb - fantastic!!! :headbang: :pickle: :headbang: Way to nail it!

I've hit high-180s at the end of some races, so touching 190 is quite possible.

 
In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way. I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08! 8 freakin seconds!I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit. The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.
That's HUGE!! Congrats! Can't wait to hear more details. Regarding HR. 196 is not out of the question at all. My max is 194. I'm assuming you hit 196 at the finish? My brother is even higher at 199 and I'm pretty sure he's a 200-201.
 
In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way. I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08! 8 freakin seconds!I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit. The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.
Congrats!!! I'd use the Garmin Player to analyze what happened with your heart rate and when. I like setting the player to the slowest setting and putting HR and elevation as my selections for the first run through. If I had spiked that high, I'd hope to see that it either occurred on an uphill, or if I had walked a water stop and the HR spiked as I returned to running. Second run through, I'd watch HR and pace. Was it a short sprint to get open space, avoid the crowd, etc that caused the spike. Finally, I'd watch the entire race on the map with all the bars at the bottom. If it was a spike and you were not pegged in the high 190s the whole race, I'd show your wife on the player to calm her fears.
 
In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way. I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08! 8 freakin seconds!I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit. The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.
Very nice...yes, the 8 seconds suck...as do my 36 seconds from my last.But nice race for sure.Congrats.
 
Running got all mixed up this weekend with Christmas plans and other little things.

Ended up running after Church today.

Put in a nice 8 miles...was cruising along at 9:50 or so for the first 5...decided on an impromptu 5k around the neighborhood to finish.

Well, may have decided that at about 5.25. Still pulled it in at 26 flat.

Considering my 5k PR back in June was 27 flat...felt pretty good about that timing for this training run.

Now just need to find another 5k at some point to see what Id really run going all out on one and not after 5 miles.

 
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jb1020 - NICE! Awesome race. Congratulations! Looking forward to the race report. If you didn't feel like you were going to pass out, I wouldn't worry to much about the 196.

MY Update: I ran 10 miles today at 8:22/mile pace. Felt decent and had a negative split first 5 vs. last 5. Still was harder than I would have liked. Also realized that now I'm wearing multiple shirts, I have to be careful with my nipples. :unsure:

One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?

Also, my Garmin may have died today. I ran with it....popped it on the charger after my run. Shortly thereafter, saw the battery was fully charged so took it off the charger. Went tonight to post my average HR and its dead. Nothing. Nothing when I put it on the charger. Any ideas? Options? Ugh. I might have to buy a new one. :thumbdown:

 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
I have never had this happen.
 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
Too soon, IMO. I am still working off a purple toenail from a trail 1/2 in May. If it doesn't fall off, I thought I was supposed to leave it. Way to save the thread for page 4 BTW.
 
jb1020 - NICE! Awesome race. Congratulations! Looking forward to the race report. If you didn't feel like you were going to pass out, I wouldn't worry to much about the 196.

MY Update: I ran 10 miles today at 8:22/mile pace. Felt decent and had a negative split first 5 vs. last 5. Still was harder than I would have liked. Also realized that now I'm wearing multiple shirts, I have to be careful with my nipples. :unsure:

One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?

Also, my Garmin may have died today. I ran with it....popped it on the charger after my run. Shortly thereafter, saw the battery was fully charged so took it off the charger. Went tonight to post my average HR and its dead. Nothing. Nothing when I put it on the charger. Any ideas? Options? Ugh. I might have to buy a new one. :thumbdown:
Anything longer than 6 miles and I go for the circular bandages on the nipples.Had them sore and cracking a few times and never again will I have that.

 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
I have never had this happen.
But I'll bet you don't have tri-man's prodigious stride length/weight ratio...
 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
I have never had this happen.
We'll discuss this with you next week, marathon man. :yes:
 
One other item: 2 months after my marathon, it appears my big toe is about to break off. I know toenails come off after long runs, but I always had imagined it was within a week of the race. Am I some kind of freak losing mine 60 days later?
I pulled/cut off the last of a blackened toenail last week that I got from the Bourbon Chase in October. :shrug: I don't think the timeframe is unusual.
I have never had this happen.
Me neither. :X
 
Sand - Hope you get to feeling better. I have been there with sick and work eating up time. No fun and without running there is no way to burn the stress.

Jb - Great news on the race. Awaiting the RR.

Toenail guys - I would say the long time frame is normal as well. I have had come pop off a couple of months after marathons. The most being 3 on one foot. Always a bit freaky when you can peel them off without feeling it, but it is a nice battle scar to talk about.

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Somewhat of a good weekend for me. I got out Friday and did my 8 miles during work. It is quickly becoming one of my more interesting runs as I run the usual hilly 5 mile run and then tack on 3 at the end. I can tell that this run is paying off as I am getting stronger every time out.

Went out and did 5 miles recovery on Saturday and then I bagged yesterday's run. I need to get a long run in, but my schedule just is not consistant and it is throwing me off big time. I am thinking that I need to drop back to the Pfitz 18/55 as I just am not up on my miles right now to get the 70 a week in.

We shall see though.

Have a great day all.

 
Also, my Garmin may have died today. I ran with it....popped it on the charger after my run. Shortly thereafter, saw the battery was fully charged so took it off the charger. Went tonight to post my average HR and its dead. Nothing. Nothing when I put it on the charger. Any ideas? Options? Ugh. I might have to buy a new one. :thumbdown:
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In from the St. Jude's, had a great run but completely went against the plan I had burned in my brain. Pretty much went balls out the entire way.

I said I'd be happy with 2:05 and thrilled with a sub 2, and I came in at 2:00:08!

8 freakin seconds!

I'll give some short RR tomorrow on Monday, but I just plugged I the garmin and it said my HR got up to 196, can that be right? Could my initial HR input into the computer skew it? I honestly felt pretty good and never had a feeling of having to quit.

The wife is a nurse and is naturally quite disturbed. I just told her it had to be wrong, but rally I have no clue.
Nice run, jb! :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the feedback, Bike Guys! Trust me when I say this is definitely for my son -- I don't like biking and I hate swimming, plus I don't have regular access to a pool. I will leave that multi-sport stuff to people who can focus on more than one thing at a time.

Ivan - nice job on the recovery.

SportsFan - sounds awesome. You know you are locked in when you find excuses to run, instead of finding them not to run.

Sofa Kings - congrats to your daughter! Hope you feel better soon.

JB - what a great job. Can't wait to read about it.

ShoNuff - you are running really well right now. Great job on the 5k. That effort also shows you the benefit of warming up. Yes, 5 miles is a long warm-up, but I have found the older I get, the more vitally important a solid warm-up becomes.

PMB - very interesting about the Pfitz. If it's too much, I think you should definitely back off. It was too much for me to do the 18/55 last winter. By attempting it and then failing, it shook my confidence big-time and kind of threw me out of synch. I ended up doing less than I had been doing before I attempted it. Earl Weaver used to avoid asking players to do things they weren't capable of - he said they would just fail anyway, and end up losing their confidence in the things they were capable of. You've got a lot going on right now, and winter is just beginning, so don't bite off too much!

I finished up my first recovery week with my legs feeling frisky after running so few post-marathon miles (just 13 for the week, including yesterday). Went out for 5 yesterday and ran way too fast - first mile at 8:00, then the next 4 at 7:14 pace, culminating with a final mile in 6:56 (with me running fast at the finish to break 7:00). Legs feel fine today, but I know that wasn't the smartest, so I will dial it back down this week in intensity, even while beginning to build the mileage back up.

 
Well...not a real 5k...just seeing where i was on that while a little tired.

I don't mind a good warmup...but for me, 2 miles is the max warmup before something like that.

That said, I don't think I warmed up til about the 4th-5th mile in either of my halfs.

 
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PMB - very interesting about the Pfitz. If it's too much, I think you should definitely back off. It was too much for me to do the 18/55 last winter. By attempting it and then failing, it shook my confidence big-time and kind of threw me out of synch. I ended up doing less than I had been doing before I attempted it. Earl Weaver used to avoid asking players to do things they weren't capable of - he said they would just fail anyway, and end up losing their confidence in the things they were capable of. You've got a lot going on right now, and winter is just beginning, so don't bite off too much!
Definitely hear you on this. When my 2nd was born, I took off like 6 months from any hard training, so I am figuring I may need to fall back into that mode, but I am going to at least try...I don't see too much harm in that. I just can't seem to get a consistant schedule going.
 
Hey, guys. Crappy week of running for me. Developed some pain in my left soleus/achilles towards the end of my 10-miler on Tuesday. Took Wednesday off, and then ran 8 on Thursday night. Felt good until about mile 3, then sore. Took Friday off, and then ran 7 on Saturday, this time with a calf sleeve. Felt pretty good most of the way through. Took yesterday off, and I'll try running 7-8 later this afternoon. Played hoops last night and didn't even feel it, so that definitely bodes well for today's run.

Also, I start my 10-week swim clinic tonight. Apparently there are like 30 people signed up, all of whom are better swimmers than I am. A good buddy of mine (an Ironman triathlete) is also going, and he says that it's all just drills and that I'll be fine, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't nervous. It's super hard for me to check my ego and to do something that I'm not good at. But I guess you've gotta start somewhere, right?

 
Wow, I just finished this nice detailed long RR and somehow hit the back button! I'll do something at lunch.
Let this be your lesson. When writing up a race report, do it in Word or something first, and then just copy and paste it. Still, that sucks. :(
 
I've been "off" since the marathon and was really struggling with recovery, letting stuff piss me off, etc. So I started to google this weekend. I think I may be fighting a mild case of post marathon depression. There are too many things in this article that describe me right now. I thought it was a pretty eye opening article.

It never occurred to me that there could be such a thing, but after reading, it makes a lot of sense. Especially the "addiction" to endorphines, energy levels, etc. The feeling of that void left by the training and the race is all too real. It's like going from 100mph to 0 in 20ft and not being able to immediately get back to 100mph due to recovery time.

I figured I'd share in case anyone else felt or may feel this way in the future - Post Marathon Depression

 
Hey, guys. Crappy week of running for me. Developed some pain in my left soleus/achilles towards the end of my 10-miler on Tuesday. Took Wednesday off, and then ran 8 on Thursday night. Felt good until about mile 3, then sore. Took Friday off, and then ran 7 on Saturday, this time with a calf sleeve. Felt pretty good most of the way through. Took yesterday off, and I'll try running 7-8 later this afternoon. Played hoops last night and didn't even feel it, so that definitely bodes well for today's run.Also, I start my 10-week swim clinic tonight. Apparently there are like 30 people signed up, all of whom are better swimmers than I am. A good buddy of mine (an Ironman triathlete) is also going, and he says that it's all just drills and that I'll be fine, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't nervous. It's super hard for me to check my ego and to do something that I'm not good at. But I guess you've gotta start somewhere, right?
Good luck with the swimming! Kudos for going out of your comfort zone.I've fought the soleus/achilles a few times now and each time I've fixed it with the compression sleeve. If you aren't already, I'd wear it every day for a few hours and especially so immediately after a run.
 
Hey, guys. Crappy week of running for me. Developed some pain in my left soleus/achilles towards the end of my 10-miler on Tuesday. Took Wednesday off, and then ran 8 on Thursday night. Felt good until about mile 3, then sore. Took Friday off, and then ran 7 on Saturday, this time with a calf sleeve. Felt pretty good most of the way through. Took yesterday off, and I'll try running 7-8 later this afternoon. Played hoops last night and didn't even feel it, so that definitely bodes well for today's run.Also, I start my 10-week swim clinic tonight. Apparently there are like 30 people signed up, all of whom are better swimmers than I am. A good buddy of mine (an Ironman triathlete) is also going, and he says that it's all just drills and that I'll be fine, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't nervous. It's super hard for me to check my ego and to do something that I'm not good at. But I guess you've gotta start somewhere, right?
You should set the right tone and impress you classmates by showing up in swimmies. ;) Seriously though, good on ya for going out and doing something like that. I would be the guy drowning because I did not try and swim better before I tried to swim a really long distance.
 
Hey, guys. Crappy week of running for me. Developed some pain in my left soleus/achilles towards the end of my 10-miler on Tuesday. Took Wednesday off, and then ran 8 on Thursday night. Felt good until about mile 3, then sore. Took Friday off, and then ran 7 on Saturday, this time with a calf sleeve. Felt pretty good most of the way through. Took yesterday off, and I'll try running 7-8 later this afternoon. Played hoops last night and didn't even feel it, so that definitely bodes well for today's run.Also, I start my 10-week swim clinic tonight. Apparently there are like 30 people signed up, all of whom are better swimmers than I am. A good buddy of mine (an Ironman triathlete) is also going, and he says that it's all just drills and that I'll be fine, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't nervous. It's super hard for me to check my ego and to do something that I'm not good at. But I guess you've gotta start somewhere, right?
Couple quick things to hopefully make you relax a bit:"Masters" classes and drills will typically place people in lanes by ability, so you should be in a lane with folks close to your level. If they do and are "circling", keep to you right and don't worry about keeping up with the swimmer ahead of you. It's polite to tap someone on the foot to let them know you are there and are going to pass. You won't likely need to tap at first, but know that someone may tap your foot and they are not being a ####, they are being polite. Slow down to go faster. If you feel like you are going to fast, just slow down. You won't sink. Look in to other lanes and watch the form of others. It'll help you practice siting and you can also see good form in action. I find that swim issues are easier to correct than bike/run stuff as the pool gives coaches great access to spot them.
 

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