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Reads like a CYA announcement to me. Hope people are smart and do the right thing. No one needs to get hurt over a race. Having said that HTFU and get out there. Just do it wisely.* This post comes from a moron that goes out in 100 degrees with one amphipod and wonders why he does not feel good after.'wraith5 said:
Just a couple of weeks, but I have a bike and the time. It doesn't aggrivate my injury. So, I thought I'd asked those with more experience about a comparable workout...
Yeah, but it's a dry heat.Gru - good luck and race smart!* This post comes from a moron that goes out in 100 degrees with one amphipod and wonders why he does not feel good after.
Fixed, I'm still in my early 40s Pops.So you gonna pull a '2Young' and try the HRM during a, uh, romantic moments?'Ned said:On a side note - she's now wearing a HRM and learning the ropes
I'd do the bike more on time than a target pace. Do you know your target heart rate when you run the 5-milers? If so, I'd shoot for 10 to 15 BPMs less that your run target rate and ride for an hour, versus 43 minutes you run. For the hour of biking, try and mix things up by sprinting or climbing during commercials (if you are watch TV) or every 3rd song if you are listening to music.
Fixed, I'm still in my early 40s Pops.So you gonna pull a '2Young' and try the HRM during a, uh, romantic moments?'Ned said:On a side note - she's now wearing a HRM and learning the ropes
I did mention this yesterday when we were coming home from dinner after we had a little chat about finding your max HR. I told her we could strap on the HRMs and find her max after the kids went to bed tonight. All I got was a big old 
####. Somehow my notes app got deleted off my ####### phone. ####. Happened with my Open Table app the other day, too. WTF?
Sounds like you'll have 3:30 tomorrow to find new hotties to stalk!Enjoy the race and be safe.
With all due respect, unless he's been training in Miami, that's just stupid.
Don't disagree. And no he hasn't been training in Miami.He's a great kid who is very competitive with himself. He's 21 years old. He may have to learn how tough the heat can be. He said he would run smart and give it a shot. We'll see.....EDIT: I'm doing Burlington Vermont in late May and offered he could crash in my hotel room (with me, my wife and kids) if he had second thoughts about PR attempt tomorrow.. I'm guessing by 11:30 I'll know if he's going for it.
Thanks. The wind sucks a lot more on the bike then while running. Went 10 miles in 50:15. Felt like I needed to sprint in the wind. Hills? I'min Louisiana, I'll try to hit a few ant piles or pot holes next time.
Have fun and be smart. I have grown attached to you. Not in a gay way,NTTAWWT.Seriously be careful!!!I'm thinking 3:30 sounds good for tomorrow. That's a full minute/mile slower than I was planning on running. Assuming a quick recovery and decent weather, maybe I'll go for another sub-3 in Green Bay.There's gonna be a LOT of skin on the course tomorrow.
Thanks for this guys, and thanks to all of you for the support. It truly means a lot.The_Man. Wraith you truly seem to be an awesome guy and father. So sorry to hear about your loss. When I lost my mom, there wasn't anything that anyone said that made sense other than "it sucks." Best wishes to you and your family.
I'll tell you what, it's been a surprisingly tough week. My father didn't do anything really "wrong" to me, but we had a falling out and neither of us ever did anything to change it. I don't feel guilty about how things turned out, but I'm sad that neither of us ever made the decision to pick up the phone. On Friday my brother and I drove out to the funeral home so each of us could say a private goodbye. I spent about 30 minutes just talking. It was awful, of course, but also in a way really good & I'm glad I did it. Tomorrow is the service... By the way, as it turns out he died from coronary heart disease. Guess this thread just got a little more important to my life
Hey how are you liking those Newtons?
I like them. I don't know if they really help me with a midfoot strike or if its a mental thing but I can tell I'm not landing on my heel anymore. I haven't gone more than 5 miles in them yet, they warn you not to just jump in and go. My calves are a little sore, but I assume that's a good thing. Other than when I first started running I don't ever remember having sore calves. I hope that means I'm running properly now, using my calves to propel me forward.
). So I told her these were supposedly supposed to last twice as long, yada, yada, yada. Then The other day I won my office Masters pool and came away with $55. I went to my local running store to just see if they had a nice racing flat, I figured with a few 5K's planned and interval training I should grab a pair. Turns out they had the Netwon MV2 on clearance for $50!
I like them. I don't know if they really help me with a midfoot strike or if its a mental thing but I can tell I'm not landing on my heel anymore. I haven't gone more than 5 miles in them yet, they warn you not to just jump in and go. My calves are a little sore, but I assume that's a good thing. Other than when I first started running I don't ever remember having sore calves. I hope that means I'm running properly now, using my calves to propel me forward.
It was kinda funny, my wife always picks on me for buying shoes (and being overly excited about it
She was not happy when she saw them.
I can't buy shoes until at least Christmas.
and We're all addicted to shoes, I think. I just placed a bulk order this weekend when I saw Amazon was selling the Gel Cumulus 13's for 69.95 with Prime shipping. My wife is going to love seeing a stack of boxes in my closet of brand new shoes. What the heck... at that price thats like buy 2 get 1 free.
As long as my wife "gets her hair done" she can't say a word.I like them. I don't know if they really help me with a midfoot strike or if its a mental thing but I can tell I'm not landing on my heel anymore. I haven't gone more than 5 miles in them yet, they warn you not to just jump in and go. My calves are a little sore, but I assume that's a good thing. Other than when I first started running I don't ever remember having sore calves. I hope that means I'm running properly now, using my calves to propel me forward.
It was kinda funny, my wife always picks on me for buying shoes (and being overly excited about it
She was not happy when she saw them.
I can't buy shoes until at least Christmas.
What type of bike are you riding, and what is the terrain. 4:50 on a road bike does not equate effort-wise (it is quite a bit slower) to an 8:40 pace running IF you aren't riding trails, or climbing heavily. There is no way to directly compare times, but you can compare easily using either perceived effort or even better, heart rate. I was an 8:00 p/m marathoner, and am an approximate 3:00 p/m century rider (assuming no drafting. My perceived effort is very similar for both, while my AVE HR is probably 5 beats per minute less on the bike (though the century takes 1.5 hours longer = overall effort seems equitable).
WHEN you do this, I'd love to see the results side by side. It takes a special outing to have both HR being maintained at a high level, at the same time. Sounds like a challenge!Fixed, I'm still in my early 40s Pops.So you gonna pull a '2Young' and try the HRM during a, uh, romantic moments?'Ned said:On a side note - she's now wearing a HRM and learning the ropes
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The midfoot or forefoot strike is definitely an adjustment, and it's absolutely no surprise that you feel it in the calves. Be careful with it ...but don't give up on it! Don't feel like you need to tippy-toe it. I find myself with more of a midfoot strike than forefoot. My new shoes (with lower height in the heel) help a lot. I don't have the big heel getting in the way of the midfoot form.jb - what's the heel height on the Newtons, do you know? My new Asics are 8 mm (versus 'normal' height of 12 mm on many shoes).
On the "Newton Distance" its 3mm.On the Flat (MV2) its zero, but it comes with an insert that can make it 3mm. Is that good, bad? This is kind of new territory for me. I just looked at what my last shoe was, Brooks Pureflow, and its 5mm. So its nothing majorly different. I The first run or two I did feel like I was running a little "tip-tooey" but then I settled in and felt like I was striking pretty good and using that Newton lug/pad thingy and propelling forward pretty good.
Yea, i think I tippy toed most of the 3miles.I did feel like i was gliding out there moreso than in the past where i felt my feet where dragging my upperbody
What are the odds he has a pen and a notepad for bib numbers? 5/1? Or should we have a pool or an O/U on how many bib numbers he actually returns with?
gonna say 7
With the women starting way before him, he should have already done his homework.
26:30 for the next 5k. It must be getting brutal out there.
jb and c-numb - When I bought my shoes with the 8 mm height, the guy was telling me I'd start to itch for the 4 mm shoes. I believe he's right, though for now, the 8mm is a great improvement. I suspect all these shoes will last longer because it's a 'softer' stride than a heavy heel strike. Doing some interval work, I believe, helps to reinforce a proper stride. It's hard to run relatively fast repeats unless the stride is strong. Another workout I use at times is to run a 1/4 mile stretch of sidewalk (traditional-sized squares) and overreach just a bit and land one stride per square. By the middle of the 1/4 mile and beyond, it's just outside my comfort zone, but it gets me to work on the reach (while maintaining form).
:fingerscrossed:Already 80 degrees out there and still 27.2K to go.
Brutal, indeed. I'm following gruecd, a friend from church (with multiple Boston appearances), and Steel Curtain's friend, Luke. They're all slowing as each 5K split is posted. It's got to be awfully uncomfortable out there. Once the body heats up and the HR rises, you just can't reverse the trend.
GOD!When you put it that way...
I'll take the under. I'll go 4, with one being
the rest, not so much. Grue through 15k at 8:32 = ROH roh. Hopefully he's just taking it ez and getting ready for GB.
If there was ever a time to wear a HRM.....
Gru
Maybe Gru did see my dentist!
I definitely feel like I'm on the right track. Its probably 50/50 on the mental side of things with the Newtons, but what the hell. After waking up with the sore calves the day after a 3 mile run, and not having any soreness after an entire marathon cycle, makes me feel like I'm improving my form.
