Congratulations, jb.
Although I'm not sure how he pulled it off before the SC weighed in today.
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Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter GStrot
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Although I'm not sure how he pulled it off before the SC weighed in today.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Just signed up for the 30K Steep Ravine trail race on August 5th. Nothing like 3,470 ft of climbing over 18 miles to get a guy out the door to do some hill training!
Sand
Footballguy
I don't know if folks here (besides PSL) know exactly how huge this is.
Oh, yeah. I know this feeling.
Superb time and power!---I haven't been around much - conference down in Tampa. Got to run in squalls, which is always fun. And tomorrow I get to run in 104 degree temps - woohoo!. Heat index is only 108, so really no problemo.
Ned
Footballguy
Muggy 5mi recovery run this morning after some major t-storms rolled through. Super muggy, but actually felt pretty good. Legs feel crisp. 
9:50/137
We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
x as a major milestone since running in HS. This is the first time I've ever felt I have a legitimate shot.
GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
9:50/137We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
x as a major milestone since running in HS. This is the first time I've ever felt I have a legitimate shot.GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
beer 302
Footballguy
Planning on going out about 5am tomorrow to try and beat the heat.I think you've earned a weekend off BnB.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I got up early today to get my 15-miler in before work. This ended up being one of those really great runs where you constantly have to force yourself to slow down (averaged 9:45/mi). Next week is a pretty good week of training, then I have a recovery week, and then I jump up into 50+ mile weeks. Looking forward to that.
gruecd
Footballguy
Good luck, everybody!!!!5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
I'm starting to ramp up my mileage, too. Gonna hit the trail again for another 18 on Sunday morning and then follow it up with a 10-miler on the road on Monday. Gotta start working on those longer back-to-back runs. Then I'll do another 18-20 next Friday since I'm off work, again followed up by 10-12 on Saturday. Should hit mid 50s for mileage this week, and I might actually hit 60 next week.I'll try to take a few pictures on the trail on Sunday. It's gorgeous out there. Only part that sucks is the damn biting flies. If anybody has any solutions, I'm all ears.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
THANKS!! Looking at the temps everywhere, I think I am the lucky racer this weekend, in that both events include a swim!!!!Muggy 5mi recovery run this morning after some major t-storms rolled through. Super muggy, but actually felt pretty good. Legs feel crisp.
We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Same here...when the overnight low is 76 tonight...tomorrow's 12 miler is likely to be hot and sticky....even at 5:30 am.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Deer Fly Patches on your running hat. Haven't tried it, but the Ultra Running Coach at Running Fit (the outfit that puts on Dances With Dirt) and her crew swear by this method and have shared some NASTY photos of what one looks like post run.
gruecd
Footballguy
I've actually heard of these before. I'll order a 12-pack and see how they work. Of course, I don't wear a hat when I run, but I can do a bandana or something. For $8, it's worth a try.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Shouldn't be too bad here, expecting temps in the 70's race time Sunday morning. May be a little muggy, but I'm used to running in the afternoon heat so I'm not too worried about it. I'm most worried about being ready to run as hard as I can first thing in the morning. My clock is used to running sometime between noon and 7 pm, not 8 am.THANKS!! Looking at the temps everywhere, I think I am the lucky racer this weekend, in that both events include a swim!!!!Muggy 5mi recovery run this morning after some major t-storms rolled through. Super muggy, but actually felt pretty good. Legs feel crisp.
We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
Very good read for everyone. Might help MAC tomorrow.http://www.hammernutrition.com/hnt/1279/Shouldn't be too bad here, expecting temps in the 70's race time Sunday morning. May be a little muggy, but I'm used to running in the afternoon heat so I'm not too worried about it. I'm most worried about being ready to run as hard as I can first thing in the morning. My clock is used to running sometime between noon and 7 pm, not 8 am.THANKS!! Looking at the temps everywhere, I think I am the lucky racer this weekend, in that both events include a swim!!!!Muggy 5mi recovery run this morning after some major t-storms rolled through. Super muggy, but actually felt pretty good. Legs feel crisp.
We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
GL to the racers this weekend - 2Y2BB (x2!), MAC, CN, Jux. Go get'm, boys.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
beer 302
Footballguy
Had a great finish to the week. 3 miles on Thursday at a PR pace, off yesterday and then my long run for the week today. Always get nervous running a route I've never been on so I got up early and hit it @ 5am to beat the heat. Ran down to where I work and back which is almost exactly 8 miles. Took it easy on the way down with the only two goals of being under 11 minute mile pace and finishing. Felt good the whole way and had plenty left to finish at a 9 something pace. Very happy with how things have progressed since my disappointing long run last Saturday.
Being smart about your runs, learning your body & pace and adhering to the training schedule is starting to pay off. Thanks for the help & suggestions guys. Good luck to all out there today. I hope you're done by now because it's blistering hot already.
Being smart about your runs, learning your body & pace and adhering to the training schedule is starting to pay off. Thanks for the help & suggestions guys. Good luck to all out there today. I hope you're done by now because it's blistering hot already.
sho nuff
Footballguy
GL to all the racers today...hope the heat stays down for you all.
Was up at 5 this morning...after a bit of a delay changing a smoke detector battery (waiting and listening to figure out which one it was as there are 3 pretty close in the hall outside my son's room and right next to my daughter's room).
Out the door finally at 6 and it was already 82* and about 60% humidity. 89* by the finish.
Was aiming for 12 initially but knew that cutting off at 10 was likely with the heat creeping up. Planned a stop at the house at 8 miles to refill waters and knew right then the next 2 miles would finish me off.
Got through the 10 at 10:34 average...HR stayed near 155 for most of the run til the last few miles of hills back up towards my house twice.
Overall it was a very good run. Id have liked to have gotten in 12 today...but still finished off a 31 mile week before next week screws up my plans (traveling to Wisconsin on Friday...up early on Saturday for a family renunion/birthday party for my dad and his twin/retirement party for an aunt and uncle...all at a family cottage on a lake). May get in a few miles that morning before we leave or on Sunday.
Was up at 5 this morning...after a bit of a delay changing a smoke detector battery (waiting and listening to figure out which one it was as there are 3 pretty close in the hall outside my son's room and right next to my daughter's room).
Out the door finally at 6 and it was already 82* and about 60% humidity. 89* by the finish.
Was aiming for 12 initially but knew that cutting off at 10 was likely with the heat creeping up. Planned a stop at the house at 8 miles to refill waters and knew right then the next 2 miles would finish me off.
Got through the 10 at 10:34 average...HR stayed near 155 for most of the run til the last few miles of hills back up towards my house twice.
Overall it was a very good run. Id have liked to have gotten in 12 today...but still finished off a 31 mile week before next week screws up my plans (traveling to Wisconsin on Friday...up early on Saturday for a family renunion/birthday party for my dad and his twin/retirement party for an aunt and uncle...all at a family cottage on a lake). May get in a few miles that morning before we leave or on Sunday.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Hi everyone. I have not been keeping up in here and it seems I have missed a lot. Good luck to all the racers this week end. I have been keeping up with my running. Most of it is being done on treadmill as I just cant do the 100+ heat thing anymore.
I did get up at 4:00 am this morning and ran 11 miles on the streets at about 11:22 pace. It was 80 at 4:00am
It did feel cool though when compared to the 108 we have been hitting.
My right foot seems to really be coming along. I have been icing,massaging,stretching and taping it. I would say it is about 80% better then what it was. Still not perfect but it is good enough.
I did get up at 4:00 am this morning and ran 11 miles on the streets at about 11:22 pace. It was 80 at 4:00am
It did feel cool though when compared to the 108 we have been hitting.My right foot seems to really be coming along. I have been icing,massaging,stretching and taping it. I would say it is about 80% better then what it was. Still not perfect but it is good enough.
Sean
Footballguy
Best of luck to everyone racing today or tomorrow.
Just got back from my first attempt at a run since having to stop due to knee pain last Monday. Unfortunately this didn't go much better. I could feel it wasn't right from the start and only made it 3 miles or so before calling it a day. Thinking I might need to bag the 10k on Wednesday. Really bummed right now. Hit the stretches, foam roller, and ice after but feeling a little hopeless.
Just got back from my first attempt at a run since having to stop due to knee pain last Monday. Unfortunately this didn't go much better. I could feel it wasn't right from the start and only made it 3 miles or so before calling it a day. Thinking I might need to bag the 10k on Wednesday. Really bummed right now. Hit the stretches, foam roller, and ice after but feeling a little hopeless.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Sorry!! Try more ice. My wife is coming off Planters Fasciitis. Our Podiatrist is a triathlete too and does Med support for Ironman Events. As part of my wife's recovery plan, she was told to ice three times a day. She has been religious about it and its sped the healing. She now ices any ache and pain every day, three times a day and came back strong. She basically took all of May off and the last few week's of April too and has still been able to do a duathlon last weekend and a brick today of a 5K run, 12 mile ride, 2 mile run. I need to start her ice plan.
Sand
Footballguy
Greeting, gents. I demurred on doing anything yesterday as it was 105 (heat index 115+). Yeesh. Anyway, came down to the beach today and did about 3 hours of good stuff - 35 miles riding, a 20 minute ocean swim, and a 3 mile run. Best part of the day was finally trying out the new bike (she's fast). Did a bit of a time trial in nasty wind - 24 mph average over 6.6 miles (22mph and 27mph on each half - wind was 15+mph). New 15 minute power PR of 288W. Not bad!
Have a good weekend, gents!
Have a good weekend, gents!
Details on the bike please.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Sorry to hear about the knee. Don't do the 10K -- racing on an injury that interferes with normal daily runs is a really bad idea. It's not like this is the last 10K they're ever offering._________________________I had to cut today's run short due to the heat. I was scheduled for 9 with 5 LT miles and figured this was do-able despite the fact that it was almost 90, humid, and sunny. Well, it turned out that it wasn't, at least not this time. I was pretty drenched after the two-mile warmup, and after the third LT mile, I felt horrible and didn't think I could safely do two more. I definitely couldn't have handled two additional "cool down" (lol) miles on top of that. The good news is that I didn't really get enough work in to have anything to recover from, so I'm going to pretend like this was just a regularly-scheduled 5-miler and take another shot at it tomorrow morning.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A good start to vacation time at our family cottage in Michigan - comfortably paced 12 mile run (7:52/mile) with 5 miles on country roads then 7 miles on a paved trail through field and forest. Only one obnoxious dog that came onto one of the country roads with a snarl on its face. We had a stand-off as a woman rather passively tried to call it back. A car came along and slowed ..I shouted "hit it!" I'm sure the woman loved that. After the run, I cooled off in the lake and swam for several minutes. That was my first swim in many months, and it felt wonderful.
Ned
Footballguy
Well, I went for it...My wife, sister and I headed over to the start at 7:15. When we pulled in we noticed the parking lot was a ghost town. Uh oh. Are that many people blowing it off due to the heat? It was very muggy and 83 degrees at 7:30am. Yuck. We hit sign up and came right back to the truck to chill in the AC for as long as we could. As we sat there i grabbed my watch and turned it on. Nothing happened. Sat there in disbelief for a few minutes and said F it. Im going 'naked'. Yes that's right kids. I ran without a HRM.We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
We got out at 7:45 and did our own quick warm ups. Legs felt good. Really good. I cut my usual 1.5mi warmup in half to stay cool. By the time I was done I was already sweating pretty good. This was a pump n run event which delayed the start. People were taking forever doing their bench reps. Standing there in the sun kinda sucked. Gun went off. I lined up at the front and decided to go for broke. I wanted to ne at 6:25 or less to give myself a shot at 19:59. First mile clock approaches and I passed it at 6:22. Whew right on pace. I was pretty happy that I was that close with no watch. It got hotter. And hotter. M pace quickly eroded from about 1.5ish on. I fought to keep my legs turning over as fast as they'd go. The lactate acid was piling up quick. 13:50 at the 2mi clock. Ooof. 7:28 for the second mile. Pressed as much as I could from there on and ended up at 21:21. The exact time I ran at this event last year, which was my old PR that I broke in April. it was a miserable way to run that, but not disappointed in the least. I figured this would be the outcome, but the time is pretty respectable with the conditions. Ended up 36/463 OA and 5/12 AG. Last year there were 785 runners. Over 300 less thanks to the heat. The OA winner was the same guy who won last year (also multiple time DE marathon winner). Last year he won with 15:35. Today he won with 16:46. Makes me feel great about my time. I'm so proud of my wife. She has run maybe five times since our family relay back on May 15th. My sister is the faster one and has been training regularly. My wife is a gamer. She ran with sis for the first two miles and then pulled away on the last mile to beat her by 0:10 (30:42). I'm very proud of how she just seems to show up on race day no matter what. 
Back to the beach we go. Hoping to read some good RRs in the coming days.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Howell 1-Mile Open Water Swim & Aquathon (2K Run/.5Mile Swim/2K Run) Race Report
Didn't finish last in my AG in either, so it was a GOOD day. Smaller event and full of really, really strong swimmers and triathletes. Lots of M-Dot Tats, college swim caps and Speedos. I feel compelled to add a
that I taught myself to swim in 2008.
1-Mile OWS: 35:32, good for 6th out of 7th in my AG, 53rd out of 75 racers. About a minute slower than last year's time, but everyone agreed that last years course was much shorter. Right before the gun, they announced that they were changing the swim from clockwise to counter-clockwise. Huge BUMMER for me
as I right side breathe and siting a clockwise course is much easier. Mass, on the beach start to the event made for quite a melee. I hacked and whacked a bit, giving more than I received before it occurred to me that about 1/2 these folks probably haven't done a "tri" start, so I backed my #### down a bit (plus, I kind of felt like a ####, thinking I was thrashing with women). Fell into a nice groove and side spotted most of the out leg, but was still getting off course a bit. It was a two-loop course and I picked up a 2 person draft at the start of the second loop, and kept it for almost all of the 2nd 1/2 mile. I touched toes a few times, but was trying to be a bit respectful (and could tell I was being draft too). Haven't downloaded the Garmin data yet, but I'd guess the 2nd loop was much faster than the first due to the draft. Coming out of the water I was a bit disappointed to see the clock above 30 minutes. I swam hard and thought I'd have been faster. Scary too, was that my right hammy locked when I stood up to run out of the water. Garmin had my distance at 1,859 yards, I was sub 2 100s, so about where I am usually at.
Due to be slow on the swim, I only had about 20 minutes between events. I had no desire to choke down some Gu Chomps due to swallowing lake water, but choked them down to try and attack the hammy cramps.
Aquathon: Its weird trying to run after swimming. I ###### up the multi-sport mode on the Garmin, so it was still set for swimming, so I have no clue what my actual run was. I was able to get the thing right during the 2K Run, looked like I average something just below 8MM. Very hilly course with the first part on dirt road, second portion through a cemetery (creepy) and then finishing on wood chip trail and grass. Transition SUCKED. I thought I'd fixed an issue from last year by bringing a dry swim cap. It is almost impossible to put a wet swim cap on a sweaty bald head. They won't let you in the water without a swim cap. With as sweaty as I was, the front of the cap kept slipping off my bald noggin. I probably lost more than a minute trying to get that ###### on, and it was on way wrong. Like the the mile swim, this was a two loop course also. I quickly realized, AGAIN, that this was a swimmers event as person after person passed me. My arm were way heavy. No draft for all about about the last 1/3 of the course. Used my head and stepped up on my left leg to try and avoid the hammy cramps again and it worked. MUCH better transition and I was off. Looked down at my pace about 100 yards in and the Garmin read 6:08 (swim cap thing must of ###### me off). Based on the lap data on the Garmin I averaged 6:56 MM for the second 2K Run. Finished in 38:37, which was almost 3-minutes faster than last year, good for 7th out of 9 in my AG, 38th out of 101 racers.
My buddy Mark got AG 1st in the Mile and AG 2nd in the Aquathon. Have to admit a bit of jealousy, AG awards in the Aquathon were coffee mugs with the race logo. I thought this was a cool touch. Nice medal for the swim too. This was a nice check in for the 10-Leg Survival Tri coming up in August and the HIM in September. I have a ton of confidence that I can get through the swimming in both comfortably and conserving lots of energy.
Didn't finish last in my AG in either, so it was a GOOD day. Smaller event and full of really, really strong swimmers and triathletes. Lots of M-Dot Tats, college swim caps and Speedos. I feel compelled to add a
that I taught myself to swim in 2008.1-Mile OWS: 35:32, good for 6th out of 7th in my AG, 53rd out of 75 racers. About a minute slower than last year's time, but everyone agreed that last years course was much shorter. Right before the gun, they announced that they were changing the swim from clockwise to counter-clockwise. Huge BUMMER for me
as I right side breathe and siting a clockwise course is much easier. Mass, on the beach start to the event made for quite a melee. I hacked and whacked a bit, giving more than I received before it occurred to me that about 1/2 these folks probably haven't done a "tri" start, so I backed my #### down a bit (plus, I kind of felt like a ####, thinking I was thrashing with women). Fell into a nice groove and side spotted most of the out leg, but was still getting off course a bit. It was a two-loop course and I picked up a 2 person draft at the start of the second loop, and kept it for almost all of the 2nd 1/2 mile. I touched toes a few times, but was trying to be a bit respectful (and could tell I was being draft too). Haven't downloaded the Garmin data yet, but I'd guess the 2nd loop was much faster than the first due to the draft. Coming out of the water I was a bit disappointed to see the clock above 30 minutes. I swam hard and thought I'd have been faster. Scary too, was that my right hammy locked when I stood up to run out of the water. Garmin had my distance at 1,859 yards, I was sub 2 100s, so about where I am usually at.Due to be slow on the swim, I only had about 20 minutes between events. I had no desire to choke down some Gu Chomps due to swallowing lake water, but choked them down to try and attack the hammy cramps.
Aquathon: Its weird trying to run after swimming. I ###### up the multi-sport mode on the Garmin, so it was still set for swimming, so I have no clue what my actual run was. I was able to get the thing right during the 2K Run, looked like I average something just below 8MM. Very hilly course with the first part on dirt road, second portion through a cemetery (creepy) and then finishing on wood chip trail and grass. Transition SUCKED. I thought I'd fixed an issue from last year by bringing a dry swim cap. It is almost impossible to put a wet swim cap on a sweaty bald head. They won't let you in the water without a swim cap. With as sweaty as I was, the front of the cap kept slipping off my bald noggin. I probably lost more than a minute trying to get that ###### on, and it was on way wrong. Like the the mile swim, this was a two loop course also. I quickly realized, AGAIN, that this was a swimmers event as person after person passed me. My arm were way heavy. No draft for all about about the last 1/3 of the course. Used my head and stepped up on my left leg to try and avoid the hammy cramps again and it worked. MUCH better transition and I was off. Looked down at my pace about 100 yards in and the Garmin read 6:08 (swim cap thing must of ###### me off). Based on the lap data on the Garmin I averaged 6:56 MM for the second 2K Run. Finished in 38:37, which was almost 3-minutes faster than last year, good for 7th out of 9 in my AG, 38th out of 101 racers.
My buddy Mark got AG 1st in the Mile and AG 2nd in the Aquathon. Have to admit a bit of jealousy, AG awards in the Aquathon were coffee mugs with the race logo. I thought this was a cool touch. Nice medal for the swim too. This was a nice check in for the 10-Leg Survival Tri coming up in August and the HIM in September. I have a ton of confidence that I can get through the swimming in both comfortably and conserving lots of energy.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Most horrifying first world problem ever.Congrats on putting up a pretty decent time under the conditions.As we sat there i grabbed my watch and turned it on. Nothing happened. Sat there in disbelief for a few minutes and said F it. Im going 'naked'. Yes that's right kids. I ran without a HRM.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Nice race, but I was confused by this part. Why do you have to wear a swim cap?
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2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Safety. A 1/2 mile swim course coverer quite a bit of distance. Its much easier to spot a bright colored cap if someone is struggling than just a noggin. Its no biggie to get it on a dry bald head, its a ##### when it is wet.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Makes sense. Thanks.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Most horrifying first world problem ever.Congrats on putting up a pretty decent time under the conditions.As we sat there i grabbed my watch and turned it on. Nothing happened. Sat there in disbelief for a few minutes and said F it. Im going 'naked'. Yes that's right kids. I ran without a HRM.
and 2Young - more adventures for you! Way to hang tough. You HAVE to learn bilateral breathing ...can't believe you're not addressing this! Congrats again to Mark.
Sand
Footballguy
I'll post a picture. It is used (i.e. new to me). It flies, though!
MAC_32
Footballguy
Did not have it yesterday. Had plenty of fluids all weekend, did not snack Saturday night, and had my morning banana and berries a couple of hours before the race. It was hotter and muggier than I expected at 8 am, so that didn't help. There was plenty of eye candy, so that did help. 350ish people total and a pack of people that were running for sub 18 mins so I had people to run off of.
Goal was to #1 get out in 5:45 - 5:50 #2 then get through 2 miles in under 12 mins then #3 go for it.
I achieved goal #1 (5:47), took off fast and maintain which was what I was most concerned about not being a morning runner. The majority of the hills are between .5 and 1.5 miles and I feel like I made through all of them how I needed to in order to get 18 flat. I felt like I was cruising towards goal #2 but had a hard time keeping the legs churning once the hills ended around mile 1.5. This was confirmed when I saw the mile 2 times and crossed at 12:12. Ugh. I was at a cruising tempo, but just didn't feel like I was getting the leg stride I needed, and I didn't. There's a brief downhill followed by another one back up right after mile 2 and I saw this as my last opportunity to kick it into gear. I got my stride going downhill, but quickly realized on the way back up that I just didn't have it. Got passed by the only 2 people that did pass me and began to lose touch with the pack I was pacing. The last 3/4 mile is all downhill and while I killed this part last week I did not yesterday. Same problems as earlier, just could not get the stride I needed.
All that and the race was 200 yards further than I thought it was! I thought the race started and finished at the gate to a park but actually there was a 100 yard sprint in and out of the park, which makes sense since the entrance is on a busy road. I probably ran the same route as Tuesday (18:30) in a shade under 19 mins but the added 200 meters took me up to 19:26. Definitely not the time I was looking for, but as I told my wife afterwards, I didn't have anything left - that was it - and my race plan was the right one. Oh well, dust myself off and try it again!
I plan to get some redemption at a 5k later this year, but in the meantime I am adding a new goal. We got a gift from my parents, a jogging stroller, with a promise of a double coming at Christmas. Going to start to take the little guy out for runs in the stroller and start training for races with him instead! Should be fun
Goal was to #1 get out in 5:45 - 5:50 #2 then get through 2 miles in under 12 mins then #3 go for it.
I achieved goal #1 (5:47), took off fast and maintain which was what I was most concerned about not being a morning runner. The majority of the hills are between .5 and 1.5 miles and I feel like I made through all of them how I needed to in order to get 18 flat. I felt like I was cruising towards goal #2 but had a hard time keeping the legs churning once the hills ended around mile 1.5. This was confirmed when I saw the mile 2 times and crossed at 12:12. Ugh. I was at a cruising tempo, but just didn't feel like I was getting the leg stride I needed, and I didn't. There's a brief downhill followed by another one back up right after mile 2 and I saw this as my last opportunity to kick it into gear. I got my stride going downhill, but quickly realized on the way back up that I just didn't have it. Got passed by the only 2 people that did pass me and began to lose touch with the pack I was pacing. The last 3/4 mile is all downhill and while I killed this part last week I did not yesterday. Same problems as earlier, just could not get the stride I needed.
All that and the race was 200 yards further than I thought it was! I thought the race started and finished at the gate to a park but actually there was a 100 yard sprint in and out of the park, which makes sense since the entrance is on a busy road. I probably ran the same route as Tuesday (18:30) in a shade under 19 mins but the added 200 meters took me up to 19:26. Definitely not the time I was looking for, but as I told my wife afterwards, I didn't have anything left - that was it - and my race plan was the right one. Oh well, dust myself off and try it again!
I plan to get some redemption at a 5k later this year, but in the meantime I am adding a new goal. We got a gift from my parents, a jogging stroller, with a promise of a double coming at Christmas. Going to start to take the little guy out for runs in the stroller and start training for races with him instead! Should be fun
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This morning's make-up run went fine. It's kind of annoying that it's 73 and humid at 5:00 am, but obviously this was way better than yesterday's sauna. All of my clothes were still completely soaked after the tempo portion though, and I imagine I'll be hydrating all day.'IvanKaramazov said:
gruecd
Footballguy
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I agree with both of you for different reasons. I should have added to my RR that the reason they last minute swapped the course was due to the sun being directly east of the beach and rising. The out leg would have been into the teeth of the sun, the switch took the path into the sun too, but at about a 30 degree angle. I had a chance to look at the Garmin data. Without a draft, I did veer off course and the first lap was longer than the first. Using drafting and side siting of other swimmers, I was very tight to the course. I'm with Sand that there are lots of ways to site, without breathing bilaterally. However, not be able to breathe bilaterally crushed me in last week's tri when I was eating wave after wave in my face. If I could have even left side breathed every four strokes, it would have had a huge impact. I tried the whole bilateral thing for two months this winter. I drank about 40 gallons of pool water and monkey ###### my stroke and, honestly, just gave up so I could get a better workout in. I don't have an event with a swim until mid August (10 leg survival tri) so I should do some bilateral work in training swims. September's HIM is an out and back swim square in a bay on Lake Huron. If there are waves. it could make for a miserable 1/2 mile swim back into the wave if I am not able to breathe on the left.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Not what you wanted...but great race for sticking with your plans.Some days it just does not work out (and yeah, the heat and the energy it took on the hills probably just sapped what you did have that day).And awesome on the stroller.
Sand
Footballguy
Are they planning on surprising you with a baby for Christmas?
Awesome!
Have you tried to just learn to swim breathing left instead of bilateral? I have always found bilateral to be a #####. I always do a bit of left-side breathing in each swim, though, just in case of what you had - just enough chop to make for a miserable swim. Give me big rollers any day!
MAC_32
Footballguy
Are they planning on surprising you with a baby for Christmas?
We have #2 on the way in October, figuring it's going to get harder and harder to find time to run but if I can get the kids out of the house for an hour + get my exercise + give my wife some mental break from them (she's stay at home) it's a win for everyone.
gruecd
Footballguy
Crappy trail run yesterday. Got up and left home around 7:30, so by the time I got to the trail and got started, it was already 75° and humid. I was sleep-deprived and dehydrated going into it, so I should've just taken it easy, but I went way too fast the first half, averaging 8:43/mile for the first nine. Took a couple minutes to gather myself and then headed back, and it was a struggle the whole way. I walked anything that even vaguely resembled an uphill and just tried to run as many of the flats/downhills as I could. Had to stop completely a couple of times because I felt like I was going to pass out. Averaged 10:10 on the way back, for an overall average of 9:27 for the 18 miles.
Ironically, that's right where I wanted the average pace, but I definitely did it the hard way. I have such a hard time pacing myself on the technical stuff. Like 2Young suggested on Facebook, maybe a HRM would help, but like another friend said to me, I really just need to develop more feel for the trail and effort. Hopefully that's something that will come with more experience out there.
To put it in perspective, I weighed 211-212 before the run. During the run, I emptied a 70-oz hydration pack full of water and a 20-oz handheld of Gatorade. Also had a 32-oz bottle of Gatorade afterwards. That's 7.5 pounds of liquid. Weighed 206 when I got home.
Ironically, that's right where I wanted the average pace, but I definitely did it the hard way. I have such a hard time pacing myself on the technical stuff. Like 2Young suggested on Facebook, maybe a HRM would help, but like another friend said to me, I really just need to develop more feel for the trail and effort. Hopefully that's something that will come with more experience out there.
To put it in perspective, I weighed 211-212 before the run. During the run, I emptied a 70-oz hydration pack full of water and a 20-oz handheld of Gatorade. Also had a 32-oz bottle of Gatorade afterwards. That's 7.5 pounds of liquid. Weighed 206 when I got home.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
So I wasn't the only heat victim this weekend? Solid work hitting previous times, regardless of your goal.'Ned said:Well, I went for it...My wife, sister and I headed over to the start at 7:15. When we pulled in we noticed the parking lot was a ghost town. Uh oh. Are that many people blowing it off due to the heat? It was very muggy and 83 degrees at 7:30am. Yuck. We hit sign up and came right back to the truck to chill in the AC for as long as we could. As we sat there i grabbed my watch and turned it on. Nothing happened. Sat there in disbelief for a few minutes and said F it. Im going 'naked'. Yes that's right kids. I ran without a HRM.We're heading down state for our annual beach vacation today. Staying for a week and will try to get some quality runs in the early mornings. 5K on Sunday AM with wife and sister. It's going to be very hot/muggy down there, but I'm going to give an honest shot at breaking 20:00. If I blow up, so be it. I've always looked up to 19
MAC_32
Footballguy
Silver linings - most of the sub 18 minute pack did not hit their goals either and I finished 3rd in my age group. I just hope there weren't many kids within ear shot of me when I turned the final corner, saw the clock ticking 19
x and let out a very audible "F&$%!"
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
You know this already, but be careful out there. I doubt you want to encounter any kind of serious problem 9 miles deep on a trail.Crappy trail run yesterday. Got up and left home around 7:30, so by the time I got to the trail and got started, it was already 75° and humid. I was sleep-deprived and dehydrated going into it, so I should've just taken it easy, but I went way too fast the first half, averaging 8:43/mile for the first nine. Took a couple minutes to gather myself and then headed back, and it was a struggle the whole way. I walked anything that even vaguely resembled an uphill and just tried to run as many of the flats/downhills as I could. Had to stop completely a couple of times because I felt like I was going to pass out. Averaged 10:10 on the way back, for an overall average of 9:27 for the 18 miles.
Ironically, that's right where I wanted the average pace, but I definitely did it the hard way. I have such a hard time pacing myself on the technical stuff. Like 2Young suggested on Facebook, maybe a HRM would help, but like another friend said to me, I really just need to develop more feel for the trail and effort. Hopefully that's something that will come with more experience out there.
To put it in perspective, I weighed 211-212 before the run. During the run, I emptied a 70-oz hydration pack full of water and a 20-oz handheld of Gatorade. Also had a 32-oz bottle of Gatorade afterwards. That's 7.5 pounds of liquid. Weighed 206 when I got home.
gruecd
Footballguy
Yeah, I know. I do take a phone with me when I run alone, and I text someone before I go, at the turnaround, and when I get back. At least this way I'd have someone to come looking for me...You know this already, but be careful out there. I doubt you want to encounter any kind of serious problem 9 miles deep on a trail.Crappy trail run yesterday. Got up and left home around 7:30, so by the time I got to the trail and got started, it was already 75° and humid. I was sleep-deprived and dehydrated going into it, so I should've just taken it easy, but I went way too fast the first half, averaging 8:43/mile for the first nine. Took a couple minutes to gather myself and then headed back, and it was a struggle the whole way. I walked anything that even vaguely resembled an uphill and just tried to run as many of the flats/downhills as I could. Had to stop completely a couple of times because I felt like I was going to pass out. Averaged 10:10 on the way back, for an overall average of 9:27 for the 18 miles.
Ironically, that's right where I wanted the average pace, but I definitely did it the hard way. I have such a hard time pacing myself on the technical stuff. Like 2Young suggested on Facebook, maybe a HRM would help, but like another friend said to me, I really just need to develop more feel for the trail and effort. Hopefully that's something that will come with more experience out there.
To put it in perspective, I weighed 211-212 before the run. During the run, I emptied a 70-oz hydration pack full of water and a 20-oz handheld of Gatorade. Also had a 32-oz bottle of Gatorade afterwards. That's 7.5 pounds of liquid. Weighed 206 when I got home.
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