Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[MAC_32]

Doctor friend of mine explained it to me one time, it isn't the same with everyone but it's not uncommon - don't remember the name of the effect she described was though. When it gets sub 20 if I run too long I turn into a wheezy wreck once I get home. Lots of sneezing, uncontrollable runny nose, difficulty breathing, face feels like it's on fire, headache, etc. - has to do with inhaling the bitter cold air. Snow dictates exactly how far I go, but I'll max at 4-5 miles when it's between 10 and 20 and only do 3 if it's less than that. Sucks because the temperatures don't force me in otherwise, I love running when it's colder.

 

[MAC_32]

I'm with Ned, I have no idea what this breathing issue is. I know the concept of getting sick because you go outside without a hat and scarf is an old wives' tale. My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves. But then again, on the really cold days, I use a treadmill. :ducksforcover:On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apologized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

I turn and charge them. I am winding up to kick a 50 yard field goal. I have yet for one to get close enough for me to connect. I think they freak out when I turn on them. I really get mad when dogs come after me. My biggest issue is I am pretty sure I will feel really bad if I ever connect with a dogs head. I wont feel bad if it is a nasty big dog but if it looks like juniors pet I will feel guilty.

After getting bit that one time, I told myself I'd Karate Kid kick the dog in the head the next time. But what can I say? I guess I just don't have it in me.

I cause a real scene. I am yelling at the top of my lungs as I charge. I really hope I dont ever connect.

I can imagine you at a neighborhood party one day meeting someone new and he says, "I remember you! You went ballistic on my dog!"

Or..."hey...are you the guy that ran into my horse?"

 

[tri-man 47]

Cold weather doesn't seem to affect me ...I bundle up as necessary and go.

Dogs: I just read the RW story about the pit bulls savagely attacking runners near San Diego. :scary: Waaay too many dog owners seem to think it's OK for their dog to be unleashed. It really ticks me off.

 

[Ned]

I did 7 miles @ 9:40 today and it seemed harder then it should have been. After my debacle on Saturday and now just not feeling it I am getting wierded out. Tomorrow I have 9 x 400 and Wednesday 5 miles @ 9:40. I am then supposed to rest for two days and then race a 15k. I dont have a 15k to race so I was just going to try and repeat my 13 mile long run I attempted last Saturday. This is week 9 of the Higdon half marathon plan which I have tweaked. I am looking forward to the two rest days and I hope they will set me up for a nice Saturday. I dont really know what I am doing.

Sorry I can't remember, but you've improved so much I've lost track of where you're really at. What is the 9:40 pace in terms of race pace? Is that your HM pace?

My best is a 9:59 2 years ago?I have improved and I admit to cheating McMillans numbers. I do my long runs at about 10:16,pace runs at 9:22.I am hoping to get about 9:30 at my Oct half but it does involve running up A mountain which will put a dent in that goal. I am doing another half in December and I feel I have a much better chance at a 9:30 pace there.

You may be overtraining if you're schedule has been set up like this for a while now. Running a 7mi tempo run on Monday, speed intervals on Tuesday, and then another 5mi tempo run on Wednesday is far too much, IMO. You shouldn't have more than 2 hard workouts stacked together. Doing 3 hard workouts in a row is asking to get hurt. I'd also suggest slowing your long runs down to 10:45 range (assuming the 9:22-9:30 is your true HM pace).

 

[IvanKaramazov]

My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves.

They can be surprisingly hard to find, but mittens are

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I know it's too early to be worrying about this, but I can't help but peek ahead to the extended forecast for TCM on 10/7. The current forecast is for a low of 32 (figure the starting temp is a couple of degrees above that), a high of 49 (mid-40s tops by the time I cross the finish line), and rain. I've raced in rain before, but not at temps that low. I'm thinking shorts, long sleeves, and a cheap pair of gloves that I can toss at some point. And lots of body glide. Does that sound about right? I'm a little concerned about hypothermia in these conditions since I'll be on the course for ~4 hours.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Before I forget, suckex this morning was 98 50/48. What do you guys do to stay healthy running in colder temps?

What do you mean by "healthy"?

Being not sick. Running in colder temps tends to do things to your body ie breathing issue MAC mentioned above so do you eat certain foods that help keep your immune system up? Take a different supplement? That kind of stuff. I didn't really start running until the tail end of the cold season this year I wasn't out 30-40 degree temps. Just curious of there are any tips/tricks you guys have used in the past with the upcoming winter season.

Vitamin D deficiency has been a focus of many in terms of weakened immune systems (as well as several other issues). Being inside most of the time and wearing sunscreen when we're outside most of us don't synthesize nearly enough. In winter in the Northern Hemisphere it becomes an even bigger issue. It's impact on calcium absorption and bone health has been known for some time, but research is ongoing on it's impact on other body systems.Looks like the official RDA is 600 IU per day, I've seen some sports nutrition types suggest 4000+ IU at the top end. Unless someone eats a lot of fatty fish, mushrooms, or drinks a lot of fortified milk the diet probably doesn't supply nearly enough.I haven't started taking yet, have just been researching lately with cold/flu season coming on. But I am going to add to what I do take - which right now is just Glucosamine and an Omega 3-6-9, along with the Master Amino Pattern I just added to my long run routine.

 

[beer 302]

On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack?

I was bit a few times when I was young, my approach is to stop and punch that mother####er square between the eyes as hard as I can. I have no heart for a unleashed dog that has attitude. Save it for your owner Rover 'cause I'm kicking your furry little ###. Unleashed dogs piss me off in a bad way and owners that are unapologetic are worse.

Or..."hey...are you the guy that ran into my horse?"

Spit take, well done

 

[Juxtatarot]

I know it's too early to be worrying about this, but I can't help but peek ahead to the extended forecast for TCM on 10/7. The current forecast is for a low of 32 (figure the starting temp is a couple of degrees above that), a high of 49 (mid-40s tops by the time I cross the finish line), and rain. I've raced in rain before, but not at temps that low. I'm thinking shorts, long sleeves, and a cheap pair of gloves that I can toss at some point. And lots of body glide. Does that sound about right? I'm a little concerned about hypothermia in these conditions since I'll be on the course for ~4 hours.

I agree. Chicago Marathon '09 was in the mid 30s to start. I wore shorts, a long sleeze Under Armour shirt designed for cold weather, cheap gloves that I wore the whole time, and a cheap hat that I tossed within the first 1/3. I was fine and would do the same if I had to do it again. Probably doesn't need to be mentioned, but wear bundles of old clothes to toss just before the start.Edit: Chicago forecast 57 and rain!

 

[BassNBrew]

I know it's too early to be worrying about this, but I can't help but peek ahead to the extended forecast for TCM on 10/7. The current forecast is for a low of 32 (figure the starting temp is a couple of degrees above that), a high of 49 (mid-40s tops by the time I cross the finish line), and rain. I've raced in rain before, but not at temps that low. I'm thinking shorts, long sleeves, and a cheap pair of gloves that I can toss at some point. And lots of body glide. Does that sound about right? I'm a little concerned about hypothermia in these conditions since I'll be on the course for ~4 hours.

I agree. Chicago Marathon '09 was in the mid 30s to start. I wore shorts, a long sleeze Under Armour shirt designed for cold weather, cheap gloves that I wore the whole time, and a cheap hat that I tossed within the first 1/3. I was fine and would do the same if I had to do it again. Probably doesn't need to be mentioned, but wear bundles of old clothes to toss just before the start.

This is why I like small events. At the Mt. Mitchell Challenge I parked 15 ft from the start line. Shut the heater off and got in row 3 about 1 minute before go time.

 

[Ned]

I know it's too early to be worrying about this, but I can't help but peek ahead to the extended forecast for TCM on 10/7. The current forecast is for a low of 32 (figure the starting temp is a couple of degrees above that), a high of 49 (mid-40s tops by the time I cross the finish line), and rain. I've raced in rain before, but not at temps that low. I'm thinking shorts, long sleeves, and a cheap pair of gloves that I can toss at some point. And lots of body glide. Does that sound about right? I'm a little concerned about hypothermia in these conditions since I'll be on the course for ~4 hours.

I agree. Chicago Marathon '09 was in the mid 30s to start. I wore shorts, a long sleeze Under Armour shirt designed for cold weather, cheap gloves that I wore the whole time, and a cheap hat that I tossed within the first 1/3. I was fine and would do the same if I had to do it again. Probably doesn't need to be mentioned, but wear bundles of old clothes to toss just before the start.

This is why I like small events. At the Mt. Mitchell Challenge I parked 15 ft from the start line. Shut the heater off and got in row 3 about 1 minute before go time.

I think it's the rain that Ivan is actually concerned about (which I agree at those temps). Not sure how I'd handle it other than maybe having a family member at the 10mi marker or so with a dry shirt/gloves/hat.

 

[gruecd]

I wore a singlet and shorts, arm warmers, and gloves for Chicago '09. I would do the same for any marathon with starting temps in the 30s (minus the arm warmers if it's upper 30s).

 

[gruecd]

Not really much you can do in the rain, besides maybe wear a garbage bag the first few miles until you warm up.

 

[BassNBrew]

Not really much you can do in the rain, besides maybe wear a garbage bag the first few miles until you warm up.

Run between the rain drops???

 

[BassNBrew]

I know it's too early to be worrying about this, but I can't help but peek ahead to the extended forecast for TCM on 10/7. The current forecast is for a low of 32 (figure the starting temp is a couple of degrees above that), a high of 49 (mid-40s tops by the time I cross the finish line), and rain. I've raced in rain before, but not at temps that low. I'm thinking shorts, long sleeves, and a cheap pair of gloves that I can toss at some point. And lots of body glide. Does that sound about right? I'm a little concerned about hypothermia in these conditions since I'll be on the course for ~4 hours.

The good thing is that when a forecast says rain this far out, you're a lock for no rain.

 

[sho nuff]

My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves.

They can be surprisingly hard to find, but mittens are

Last spring/clearance I found the little half gloves with the mitten pull over thing at Target...these are great.Start getting warm, just pop the fingers out of the pull over for a bit...then back on to block the wind when they feel cooler.That and easy to pop off the pull over part to use a touch screen or fool with buttons on my garmin.

 

[tri-man 47]

Not really much you can do in the rain, besides maybe wear a garbage bag the first few miles until you warm up.

Run between the rain drops???

In the cold, I'll often double up the trunks ...wear a speedo or spandex shorts under regular run shorts. The butt and the boys can get cold in a long, cold marathon!

Beer - I might have posted this earlier, but a small, angry dog and I had a stand-off along a country road this summer. A woman was rather passively trying to call the dog back out of the road. I'm sure she loved it when I loudly encouraged an approaching car to "hit it!"

 

[BassNBrew]

Last night was my second speed workout in the training cycle. I played indoor soccer with the teens this Sunday and still feel like someone took a ball peen hammer to my right quad. Even skipping the scheduled 6 miler on Monday it wasn't any better.

Anyway I had 2 x 1 mile repeats on tap. First one was 7:44 pace at 155 avg hr. Kind of was hoping for sub 7:30 but things just didn't feel right. The second one was a little better at 7:29 and 154 avg hr. By that time I had warmed up and decided to join a couple of teammates for 2 x 1/4 mi hoping their pacing would push me. 6:20 pace at 178 max hr and 5:57 pace at 174 max hr.

 

[2Young2BBald]

My hands getting cold are my biggest concern -- even with gloves.

They can be surprisingly hard to find, but mittens are

Last spring/clearance I found the little half gloves with the mitten pull over thing at Target...these are great.Start getting warm, just pop the fingers out of the pull over for a bit...then back on to block the wind when they feel cooler.

That and easy to pop off the pull over part to use a touch screen or fool with buttons on my garmin.

They aren't cheap, but I have a pair of Spyder Gloves that I've run comfortably in, in sub zero wind chills. The fleece makes for a nice near frozen snot wiper too.

 

[sho nuff]

Again...the difference of 20 degrees today.

55 Monday for a beautiful 9 miler.

75 when I started today...80 by the end.

11 miles...5 miles in decided to make the last 6 some LT miles.

Pace for the LT miles was basically at my "race pace"...sometimes slower just to keep the HR from spiking too much on these hills.

GA miles were somewhere around 10:20 today...where they were around 9:40-9:50 monday.

LT miles were from 9:25-9:35 today.

Will be happy for this marathon on flatter ground in cooler weather...just keep thinking the heat and hills is going to help me so much come December 1.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

 

[beer 302]

Last night was my second speed workout in the training cycle. I played indoor soccer with the teens this Sunday and still feel like someone took a ball peen hammer to my right quad. Even skipping the scheduled 6 miler on Monday it wasn't any better.Anyway I had 2 x 1 mile repeats on tap. First one was 7:44 pace at 155 avg hr. Kind of was hoping for sub 7:30 but things just didn't feel right. The second one was a little better at 7:29 and 154 avg hr. By that time I had warmed up and decided to join a couple of teammates for 2 x 1/4 mi hoping their pacing would push me. 6:20 pace at 178 max hr and 5:57 pace at 174 max hr.

Not bad for a guy that rides bike most of the time

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

Those times are pretty freakin' excellent GB, SWEET!I know it's posted but when's the race, soon correct?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

Those times are pretty freakin' excellent GB, SWEET!I know it's posted but when's the race, soon correct?

Yeah. Twin Cities on 10/7, so not this Sunday but next Sunday.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

I have the 3 x 1600 run tonight. 8 miles total though, I think. Last challenging run of training. Hopefully that fact will give me a little extra motivation. Don't you have a recovery run before the 12 miler? I don't have my book here with me at work.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

I have the 3 x 1600 run tonight. 8 miles total though, I think. Last challenging run of training. Hopefully that fact will give me a little extra motivation. Don't you have a recovery run before the 12 miler? I don't have my book here with me at work.

I always adjust my running week around my work schedule. Thursday and Friday are both busy, so I did 5 recovery on Sunday, 7 GA on Monday, SDO Tuesday, and intervals today (I cut the w/u and c/d to 1 mile each). Next week I'm basically just disregarding "the plan" and doing my own thing instead.

 

[Sand]

Not really much you can do in the rain, besides maybe wear a garbage bag the first few miles until you warm up.

Run between the rain drops???

Yeah - the "run between the raindrops" thing may work for tri-man, but unfortunately the rest of us have body fat (and lack Matrix-type moves).

 

[Juxtatarot]

I have the 3 x 1600 run tonight. 8 miles total though, I think. Last challenging run of training. Hopefully that fact will give me a little extra motivation. Don't you have a recovery run before the 12 miler? I don't have my book here with me at work.

To make things simple, ran mile intervals instead of 1600 m. 6:12/6:08/5:56. Last one hurt. Glad that's over with.

 

[tri-man 47]

Last night was my second speed workout in the training cycle. I played indoor soccer with the teens this Sunday and still feel like someone took a ball peen hammer to my right quad. Even skipping the scheduled 6 miler on Monday it wasn't any better.Anyway I had 2 x 1 mile repeats on tap. First one was 7:44 pace at 155 avg hr. Kind of was hoping for sub 7:30 but things just didn't feel right. The second one was a little better at 7:29 and 154 avg hr. By that time I had warmed up and decided to join a couple of teammates for 2 x 1/4 mi hoping their pacing would push me. 6:20 pace at 178 max hr and 5:57 pace at 174 max hr.

Not bad for a guy that rides bike most of the time

Today was my last interval session: 6 miles with 3 x 1600. I pretty much crushed the repeats by my mid-pack standards -- 6:55, 6:52, 6:57. Now I get two SDOs and 12 miles on Saturday morning.

Those times are pretty freakin' excellent GB, SWEET!

You too, Juxt!!!

 

[gruecd]

Ended up logging another 23.5 miles on the Ice Age Trail yesterday afternoon/evening. Felt pretty good on the way out despite my buddy pushing the pace a bit, but ended up feeling not-so-good on the way back, particularly the last 5-7 miles. I didn't eat nearly enough for breakfast or lunch, and I'm struggling eating anything other than GU on the run, or else I'm sure I would've been fine.

That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

 

[Ned]

That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

no kidding. I'm sweating my one 22 miler and this guy is basically doing that 3x a week.

 

[sho nuff]

That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

 

[SFBayDuck]

That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

Gru, that is some serious volume.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Ended up logging another 23.5 miles on the Ice Age Trail yesterday afternoon/evening. Felt pretty good on the way out despite my buddy pushing the pace a bit, but ended up feeling not-so-good on the way back, particularly the last 5-7 miles. I didn't eat nearly enough for breakfast or lunch, and I'm struggling eating anything other than GU on the run, or else I'm sure I would've been fine.That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

I'm a big fan of eating a banana mid-run. Its easy on the stomach and really seems to help me with my energy. That being said, tough to take a banana on a trail run. Oh. Also, you are insane with your miles.I was gonna say I was proud of my 8.5 miles yesterday AM followed by another 7.5 this AM, but its really nothing compared to what you are doing in terms of mileage.

 

[SteelCurtain]

A couple interesting articles:

More than 90% of marathoners heel strike

Training and nutrition data from Olympic marathoners

 

[koby925]

Ended up logging another 23.5 miles on the Ice Age Trail yesterday afternoon/evening. Felt pretty good on the way out despite my buddy pushing the pace a bit, but ended up feeling not-so-good on the way back, particularly the last 5-7 miles. I didn't eat nearly enough for breakfast or lunch, and I'm struggling eating anything other than GU on the run, or else I'm sure I would've been fine.That makes three runs of at least 23 miles in the last nine days. Rest day today, 12 tomorrow, and then 26 on Saturday.

I got in 24 miles....last week....total. Had my longest and fastest run yesterday since my Half. After doing 7 easy Monday and taking Tuesday off. 9.1 miles in 65:30 but did the out in back in 34/31:30. 6:54 pace on the way back with miles 6-8 being about 6:40. The legs are starting to feel good again. I attribute that to taking the off days I have and foregoing the Tuesday speed for a couple weeks. And listening to this group's advice.

 

[Ned]

On Monday I got a flu shot while at the doc's for my annual physical. FF to last night's 15mi MLR and it was total crap. Legs were stiff and lifeless and I was getting headaches towards the end. Really hoping it was just the flu shot and things will be fine by this weekend. Wondering if any of the seasoned vets have noticed this before (flu shot affecting performance). A quick googling gives mixed feedback. Ended up struggling thru at 9:33/147. Granted it was 80/61 when I went out, but it was a big time struggle to keep the legs moving.

 

[AcerFC]

On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

If owner wasnt there, what should I have done. I have never had to fend off a dog before

If you are:Grue: = just out run that little bastardTri: Lunge at that little bastardBnB: run straight up a mountainNed: check it's HR2Y: IF it is a smaller dog race with it; if it is a larger dog, mock it for being a ClydesdaleBF: do something hilariousSand: jump in the water Me: I typically used to run right at them to make them back up. If they were running at an angle to try to cut me off, I'd change my course a couple of times. When I'm on my bike I just dare them to try to keep up.

 

[AcerFC]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time.

What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

 

[Ned]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time. What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

I run in the morning. Just run against the flow of traffic and keep your head on a swivel. There's not many cars out at 4am.

 

[sho nuff]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time. What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

I run in the morning. Just run against the flow of traffic and keep your head on a swivel. There's not many cars out at 4am.

I would guess that is the only way.Don't know how some of you all do it.I struggle enough and I don't work. But only have 5 hours...3 days a week where I don't have one or two kids around.

 

[MAC_32]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time. What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

Go into work earlier, take a longer lunch and use that time to run - that an option? I used to do that when I did the day job and personal trained at night.

 

[Juxtatarot]

On a separate note, what's the protocol for a dog attack? I was bit by one time several years ago and was chased by two dogs tonight. It was dark and I couldn't tell the breeds, but one big one and one small one. I just kept running at first and quickly debated if I should just keep running, stop or go into a sprint. Maybe because I had already finished all the 100 meter strides I had planned on, I decided to stop. They jumped up on me but didn't bite. I suspect they were just excited. Owner apolgized and asked if I was OK, which I was. I think he might have just gotten them out of the car or something.

If owner wasnt there, what should I have done. I have never had to fend off a dog before

If you are:Grue: = just out run that little bastardTri: Lunge at that little bastardBnB: run straight up a mountainNed: check it's HR2Y: IF it is a smaller dog race with it; if it is a larger dog, mock it for being a ClydesdaleBF: do something hilariousSand: jump in the water Me: I typically used to run right at them to make them back up. If they were running at an angle to try to cut me off, I'd change my course a couple of times. When I'm on my bike I just dare them to try to keep up.

I missed this the first time!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time. What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

I run in the morning. Just run against the flow of traffic and keep your head on a swivel. There's not many cars out at 4am.

The other nice thing about this is that since it's dark, you'll see cars long before they're anywhere close to you. The main issue just getting used to waking up earlier and making sure you get enough sleep.

 

[sho nuff]

I could use some help with time. Since soccer started in late August (I coach a high school JV team), I have basically went from 2-3 runs in the beginning of the season to not running at all in the last week and a half. I am having a very tough time finding time to run. Its not that I am not motivated, I just seem to have too much going on. I can wake up earlier but I really dont like the idea of running the streets at 5 in the morning. Its dark and while I live in a pretty good hood, anyone can look at their phone for a second and not see a runner. It is pitch black at that time. What do you guys do when you just cant seem to find the time. It is getting dark so early now that by the time I get home from practice/games, my window is closing quick. I dont want to ruin all the work I put in already

I run in the morning. Just run against the flow of traffic and keep your head on a swivel. There's not many cars out at 4am.

The other nice thing about this is that since it's dark, you'll see cars long before they're anywhere close to you. The main issue just getting used to waking up earlier and making sure you get enough sleep.

And don't forget the horses.

 

[AcerFC]

Thanks guys. Being a teacher it's tough to do anything during the work day. If I want to do a 3 or 4 mile workout, I can during a prep. But anything more and I will not have enough time. I'll try waking up earlier. I wish I was training for something. That would give me more of a kick in the ####.

Thanks for all the replies

 

[Sand]

For those that might be interested, Google is having a sale on apps - 25 cents for Runtastic Pro.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Thanks guys. Being a teacher it's tough to do anything during the work day. If I want to do a 3 or 4 mile workout, I can during a prep. But anything more and I will not have enough time. I'll try waking up earlier. I wish I was training for something. That would give me more of a kick in the ####.

Thanks for all the replies

Be careful what you wish for. Like lots of other folks, I had about 6-8 weeks of training this summer that demanded 4 am or earlier starts if I wanted to get miles in before it got too hot. The first few of those runs were fun because of the novelty factor, but the continual sleep-deprivation turned that part of my training into a soul-crushing fugue.

 

[Juxtatarot]

A couple interesting articles:

More than 90% of marathoners heel strike

Training and nutrition data from Olympic marathoners

I think I've always had a mid-foot strike, but decided to play around with a heel strike during my recovery run this evening. 90% of you guys run that way? That's some weird ####. I felt like I had to take a mini-jump every step.

 

[beer 302]

Thanks guys. Being a teacher it's tough to do anything during the work day. If I want to do a 3 or 4 mile workout, I can during a prep. But anything more and I will not have enough time. I'll try waking up earlier. I wish I was training for something. That would give me more of a kick in the ####.

Thanks for all the replies

Be careful what you wish for. Like lots of other folks, I had about 6-8 weeks of training this summer that demanded 4 am or earlier starts if I wanted to get miles in before it got too hot. The first few of those runs were fun because of the novelty factor, but the continual sleep-deprivation turned that part of my training into a soul-crushing fugue.

I get up at 3:30am to be out the door by 4am. I have to be back at the house by 6am to be on schedule. Only time I have to get in mileage other than Saturday mornings which is reserved for long runs.In an ode to Grue I did 10 this morning and 3 after work. That's almost half what he did. . .for one day. . .this week