Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

[prosopis]

I am soooooooo excited about this. I can not tell you how many e mails I have sent to Derrick Hall requesting a race that incorporates Chase field. Well we got it and it includes fan fest. Hell yes I am so in for this.

http://mlb.mlb.com/ari/community/race.jsp?partnerId=ed-6593210-463823990

I of course did not get any credit for this idea My original idea was to try to contain most of the race to Chase field by incorporating the concourse and ramps. I believe the Yankees do something like that.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

It was a beautiful fall night tonight in the low 50s. I ran 5 miles and the good news is I feel injury free. The bad news might be that I've quickly fallen out of shape. I averaged 7:56 pace tonight for the 5 miles but my average heart rate was 163! Compare that to my marathon October 7 when I averaged 7:05 with a 162 heart rate. Normally I'm able to run 8:00 miles with a heart rate in the low 140s or high 130s. I never would have thought that I could lose so much conditioning in a month and a half. I think I have my work cut for me to be ready to even start my training for Boston.

You haven't lost as much conditioning as you think, and it will come back really fast. The important thing is that you're healthy.

 

[tri-man 47]

It was a beautiful fall night tonight in the low 50s. I ran 5 miles and the good news is I feel injury free. The bad news might be that I've quickly fallen out of shape. I averaged 7:56 pace tonight for the 5 miles but my average heart rate was 163! Compare that to my marathon October 7 when I averaged 7:05 with a 162 heart rate. Normally I'm able to run 8:00 miles with a heart rate in the low 140s or high 130s. I never would have thought that I could lose so much conditioning in a month and a half. I think I have my work cut for me to be ready to even start my training for Boston.

You haven't lost as much conditioning as you think, and it will come back really fast. The important thing is that you're healthy.

Agreed. You've got about 20 weeks? Use the next couple to get the legs back, then start on your training schedule.

 

[Juxtatarot]

It was a beautiful fall night tonight in the low 50s. I ran 5 miles and the good news is I feel injury free. The bad news might be that I've quickly fallen out of shape. I averaged 7:56 pace tonight for the 5 miles but my average heart rate was 163! Compare that to my marathon October 7 when I averaged 7:05 with a 162 heart rate. Normally I'm able to run 8:00 miles with a heart rate in the low 140s or high 130s. I never would have thought that I could lose so much conditioning in a month and a half. I think I have my work cut for me to be ready to even start my training for Boston.

You haven't lost as much conditioning as you think, and it will come back really fast. The important thing is that you're healthy.

Agreed. You've got about 20 weeks? Use the next couple to get the legs back, then start on your training schedule.

Thanks guys. Yes, that's the plan. I'm a little worried though since the 18/70 starts at a 54 mile week which is within a few miles of the most I've ever run. I'll definitely start out running slower than usual which would probably be for the best anyway. I'm excited. Nothing helps more with motivation than a long layoff!

 

[Sand]

Another nice day here. 5 mile run and 55 minute spin class done. 1:40 in total done today. 7 mile run and a small swim on tap tomorrow.

 

[prosopis]

It was a beautiful fall night tonight in the low 50s. I ran 5 miles and the good news is I feel injury free. The bad news might be that I've quickly fallen out of shape. I averaged 7:56 pace tonight for the 5 miles but my average heart rate was 163! Compare that to my marathon October 7 when I averaged 7:05 with a 162 heart rate. Normally I'm able to run 8:00 miles with a heart rate in the low 140s or high 130s. I never would have thought that I could lose so much conditioning in a month and a half. I think I have my work cut for me to be ready to even start my training for Boston.

You haven't lost as much conditioning as you think, and it will come back really fast. The important thing is that you're healthy.

Agreed. You've got about 20 weeks? Use the next couple to get the legs back, then start on your training schedule.

Thanks guys. Yes, that's the plan. I'm a little worried though since the 18/70 starts at a 54 mile week which is within a few miles of the most I've ever run. I'll definitely start out running slower than usual which would probably be for the best anyway. I'm excited. Nothing helps more with motivation than a long layoff!

Sounds like a fun challenge. You will be back to where you were. Just out one foot in front of the other and it will fall into place.

 

[prosopis]

Did 5.25 mile tempo run today. The highlight was 15 mins @ 8:27. A little into it I did not think I was going to be able to maintain it but it seemed to get easier as I went

Really felt good holding that pace for 15 mins.

 

[AcerFC]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

I have a 5 mile turkey trot tomorrow

 

[AcerFC]

I am soooooooo excited about this. I can not tell you how many e mails I have sent to Derrick Hall requesting a race that incorporates Chase field. Well we got it and it includes fan fest. Hell yes I am so in for this.

http://mlb.mlb.com/ari/community/race.jsp?partnerId=ed-6593210-463823990

I of course did not get any credit for this idea My original idea was to try to contain most of the race to Chase field by incorporating the concourse and ramps. I believe the Yankees do something like that.

Its not the Yankees, its the Damon Runyon foundation and I did it this year with a buddy who had a stroke in January so we werent doing it for time.Its where I got the idea for my 5K where we will be incorporating the concourse and field of the local minor league baseball stadium.

If any FBGs would like to run it, I will waive any entry fees. It is about 45 minutes north of Manhattan. Let me know and Ill get you signed up

web site for run

 

[2Young2BBald]

Turkey Trotting with my wife and son tomorrow. I am signed up for the 5K, but may run the 10K or easy run the 5K with my wife. My original intent was to run with my son when we signed up. However, he let me know "it makes my legs hurt when I run slow with you". He has a few CC buddies he is going to try and hook up and run with. Based on the weather forecast, I'd bet there are 25,000+ tomorrow.

 

[beer 302]

Did 5.25 mile tempo run today. The highlight was 15 mins @ 8:27. A little into it I did not think I was going to be able to maintain it but it seemed to get easier as I went Really felt good holding that pace for 15 mins.

Nice, that's the pace I'm trying to get to for March.Juxt, welcome back Take it slow and ease back into it. You know better than I so don't bite off too much because you're feeling good. Like the guys always say, remember to keep your eye on the prize.

 

[Ned]

It was a beautiful fall night tonight in the low 50s. I ran 5 miles and the good news is I feel injury free. The bad news might be that I've quickly fallen out of shape. I averaged 7:56 pace tonight for the 5 miles but my average heart rate was 163! Compare that to my marathon October 7 when I averaged 7:05 with a 162 heart rate. Normally I'm able to run 8:00 miles with a heart rate in the low 140s or high 130s. I never would have thought that I could lose so much conditioning in a month and a half. I think I have my work cut for me to be ready to even start my training for Boston.

You haven't lost as much conditioning as you think, and it will come back really fast. The important thing is that you're healthy.

Agreed. You've got about 20 weeks? Use the next couple to get the legs back, then start on your training schedule.

Thanks guys. Yes, that's the plan. I'm a little worried though since the 18/70 starts at a 54 mile week which is within a few miles of the most I've ever run. I'll definitely start out running slower than usual which would probably be for the best anyway. I'm excited. Nothing helps more with motivation than a long layoff!

The 55 from the 18/55 isn't the same as the 54 from week 1 of 18/70. The 55 (18/55) is over a span of 5 days where the 54 (18/70) is over a span of 6. It's really not that bad. I think the biggest adjustment for me was adding that 6th day each week.

 

[DanFouts]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

 

[Ned]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

Honestly, if it's a strain..... Don't do it. Achilles/calves are finicky. If this trail race is on any sort of technical trail (think rocks, roots, off camber hills), you're going to put more stress than usual on your calves. Not to be a downer, but better safe than sorry. If its a real trail race then yes it'll be considerably slower than a road race. Real trail is going to be tight single track trail with lots of the stuff mentioned above. Some races call themselves trail races but end up being nothing more than a crushed stone path through the woods. I wouldn't consider that a trail race.

 

[tri-man 47]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

2Young first identified it for me - they're about 60-90 seconds/mile slower, depending on how technical it is.

 

[DanFouts]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

Honestly, if it's a strain..... Don't do it. Achilles/calves are finicky. If this trail race is on any sort of technical trail (think rocks, roots, off camber hills), you're going to put more stress than usual on your calves. Not to be a downer, but better safe than sorry. If its a real trail race then yes it'll be considerably slower than a road race. Real trail is going to be tight single track trail with lots of the stuff mentioned above. Some races call themselves trail races but end up being nothing more than a crushed stone path through the woods. I wouldn't consider that a trail race.

Thanks Ned and Tri-man..good to know...been doing well on the road races, so I was nervous about the trail race (but it's basically starts next door to our condo, so I thought it was worth a shot!). Good info about the calf..I'll probably rest it next two days and see how it looks Sat am!

 

[2Young2BBald]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

Honestly, if it's a strain..... Don't do it. Achilles/calves are finicky. If this trail race is on any sort of technical trail (think rocks, roots, off camber hills), you're going to put more stress than usual on your calves. Not to be a downer, but better safe than sorry. If its a real trail race then yes it'll be considerably slower than a road race. Real trail is going to be tight single track trail with lots of the stuff mentioned above. Some races call themselves trail races but end up being nothing more than a crushed stone path through the woods. I wouldn't consider that a trail race.

Thanks Ned and Tri-man..good to know...been doing well on the road races, so I was nervous about the trail race (but it's basically starts next door to our condo, so I thought it was worth a shot!). Good info about the calf..I'll probably rest it next two days and see how it looks Sat am!

Trail running has its own etiquette. Not snobby etiquette, rather, coolness to make things more fun. Don't wear music. The more technical the trail, the more communication that is needed. To pass, "on your left" lets the runner know you want to come through. If you hear it, try and find a spot where you can get right and allow the pass to take place. If its going to take a few, just let the person behind you know you need to find some space. It is frustrating when you are trying to do this with someone wearing music that can't here you. If things are bunched up and you have someone on your back, let them know whats coming. If its something easy like a tree root or rock, I say "step". If its a step up/or down I add the up or down. If its a bunch, I try to give the number like "3 step". So I can see whats coming, I either leave room or close and pass.

 

[SFBayDuck]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

Honestly, if it's a strain..... Don't do it. Achilles/calves are finicky. If this trail race is on any sort of technical trail (think rocks, roots, off camber hills), you're going to put more stress than usual on your calves. Not to be a downer, but better safe than sorry. If its a real trail race then yes it'll be considerably slower than a road race. Real trail is going to be tight single track trail with lots of the stuff mentioned above. Some races call themselves trail races but end up being nothing more than a crushed stone path through the woods. I wouldn't consider that a trail race.

Thanks Ned and Tri-man..good to know...been doing well on the road races, so I was nervous about the trail race (but it's basically starts next door to our condo, so I thought it was worth a shot!). Good info about the calf..I'll probably rest it next two days and see how it looks Sat am!

Trail running has its own etiquette. Not snobby etiquette, rather, coolness to make things more fun. Don't wear music. The more technical the trail, the more communication that is needed. To pass, "on your left" lets the runner know you want to come through. If you hear it, try and find a spot where you can get right and allow the pass to take place. If its going to take a few, just let the person behind you know you need to find some space. It is frustrating when you are trying to do this with someone wearing music that can't here you. If things are bunched up and you have someone on your back, let them know whats coming. If its something easy like a tree root or rock, I say "step". If its a step up/or down I add the up or down. If its a bunch, I try to give the number like "3 step". So I can see whats coming, I either leave room or close and pass.

, although I do listen to my iPod with just one ear bud in (I actually cut the other one off). Sometimes it's a runner trying to pass, sometimes it's a bobcat flying down the hill toward me chasing a squirrel (happened a couple of weeks ago), but it's good to be able to hear what's going on around you on the trail.

 

[BassNBrew]

So who here is running on Thursday? This is my one and only 5K of 2012, and unfortunately it's looking like it's going to be pretty windy in the 25 mph range. I'm hoping that it won't be that bad since the course is in town and largely sheltered, but we'll see.

Doing a 4 Mile Turkey Trot Trail Run on Saturday in Carolina Beach, NC. Never done a trail run before...are they a lot slower than a regular road race? Also dealing with slight Achilles/Calf strain from running too fast in last weekend's 10k!

Honestly, if it's a strain..... Don't do it. Achilles/calves are finicky. If this trail race is on any sort of technical trail (think rocks, roots, off camber hills), you're going to put more stress than usual on your calves. Not to be a downer, but better safe than sorry. If its a real trail race then yes it'll be considerably slower than a road race. Real trail is going to be tight single track trail with lots of the stuff mentioned above. Some races call themselves trail races but end up being nothing more than a crushed stone path through the woods. I wouldn't consider that a trail race.

Thanks Ned and Tri-man..good to know...been doing well on the road races, so I was nervous about the trail race (but it's basically starts next door to our condo, so I thought it was worth a shot!). Good info about the calf..I'll probably rest it next two days and see how it looks Sat am!

Trail running has its own etiquette. Not snobby etiquette, rather, coolness to make things more fun. Don't wear music. The more technical the trail, the more communication that is needed. To pass, "on your left" lets the runner know you want to come through. If you hear it, try and find a spot where you can get right and allow the pass to take place. If its going to take a few, just let the person behind you know you need to find some space. It is frustrating when you are trying to do this with someone wearing music that can't here you. If things are bunched up and you have someone on your back, let them know whats coming. If its something easy like a tree root or rock, I say "step". If its a step up/or down I add the up or down. If its a bunch, I try to give the number like "3 step". So I can see whats coming, I either leave room or close and pass.

, although I do listen to my iPod with just one ear bud in (I actually cut the other one off). Sometimes it's a runner trying to pass, sometimes it's a bobcat flying down the hill toward me chasing a squirrel (happened a couple of weeks ago), but it's good to be able to hear what's going on around you on the trail.

I wear both. After a couple of miles no one is passing me and I really don't want to hear a bear licking it's chops.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Interview with the 2nd place female at JFK50, complete with a couple of pics.

 

[beer 302]

Interview with the 2nd place female at JFK50, complete with a couple of pics.

Well done Duck, well done

 

[Ned]

Interview with the 2nd place female at JFK50, complete with a couple of pics.

Oh my........

 

[prosopis]

Interview with the 2nd place female at JFK50, complete with a couple of pics.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Turkey Day 5K complete. Old PR: 22:10. New PR: 22:08 (7:05/7:11/7:12/0:40)

The whole Karamazov clan has done this event every year since they started it 5 or so years back. Every year the weather is poor; either it's in the single digits or the roads are ice-covered. Today, the temperature and road conditions were fine, but we had 25-30 mph winds. I was hoping to go sub-22, but it just wasn't quite there and I blew any chance I had on a 1/3-mile or so segment near the end that was both uphill and into the wind; I knew that part was going to be make-or-break before we started, and unfortunately it was "break." It took a full-blown sprint at the end to pull out a 2 second PR. I won't get an official time for another day or so, but this is an informal event where my Garmin time is probably more accurate anyway, so I'm going with 22:08 regardless.

Mrs. Karamazov is tapering for the Tucson marathon about two weeks from now, so she announced in advance that she was just going to run and not race. So of course she PRed by 15 seconds at 23:something. Discipline isn't her strong suit, but seeing as how Pfitz has you racing a 10K during your taper for his plans, I guess there's nothing wrong with doing an all-out 5K. My 13 year old son dogged it a little and ran 27x. He ran 23:30 last year. My 11 year old daughter ran/walked the whole course for the first time this year with one of her buddies from school. After I finished up and caught I my breath, I jogged the course backwards until I found them and then "paced" them the rest of the way in. She managed to finish just under 45:00.

To brag on myself for a moment, I managed to set new PRs at all four main distances in 2012:

5K 22:10 --> 22:08

10K 47:55 --> 46:24

Half 1:47:05 --> 1:43:02

Full: 3:58:54 --> 3:50:04

On a friendlier course with better conditions, I'm positive I can improve on my 5K time. And my 10K time has always been soft because we only have one here and it's at night in late June. I won't race again until our local half in May, and it's going to be very tough to knock any time off that one.

Now for some food and

 

[prosopis]

I did an impromptu 3 mile recovery run with the dog today. 3 miles @ 10:30 pace.

Today is a scheduled rest day so I did not do much.

Happy Thanksgiving!!!!

 

[beer 302]

To brag on myself for a moment, I managed to set new PRs at all four main distances in 2012:5K 22:10 --> 22:0810K 47:55 --> 46:24Half 1:47:05 --> 1:43:02Full: 3:58:54 --> 3:50:04

Pretty nice year Ivan, nice way to finish up 1st Annual Virtual 5k I ran against a friend in Louisiana. Pretty cool idea actually since he had to work & I wasn't really into going to a race today. Ran my normal 5k route at race pace and PR'd the hell outta of it, 25:47. Field was sparse this year (passed two dog walkers and a guy on his bike) but looking for a better turn out next year Y'all have a happy and safe Thanksgiving!!

 

[AcerFC]

Awesome job Ivan.

I did well in my 5 mile turkey trot today. I waited for everyone to start before I crossed the start line. I was about 5 minutes behind everyone and my Garnin died before mile 2. My estimate is I finished 38:45. I wanted to break 40 so I'm happy. Will have to wait til they post official results online tomorrow

 

[MAC_32]

Winner winner chicken ####in dinner, age group anyway, details later...

 

[Ned]

Congrats Ivan, beer and Acer.

MAC - you can't even post a time? C'mon man!

 

[Ned]

To brag on myself for a moment, I managed to set new PRs at all four main distances in 2012:5K 22:10 --> 22:0810K 47:55 --> 46:24Half 1:47:05 --> 1:43:02Full: 3:58:54 --> 3:50:04

I love this. That 1:43 was a huge PR.

 

[prosopis]

Mrs. Karamazov is tapering for the Tucson marathon about two weeks from now,

If the Mrs has any questions about the town I will be happy to help. Restaurants, things to do etc..

I will be trying to PR the half at the same race.

To brag on myself for a moment, I managed to set new PRs at all four main distances in 2012:

5K 22:10 --> 22:08

10K 47:55 --> 46:24

Half 1:47:05 --> 1:43:02

Full: 3:58:54 --> 3:50:04

Impressive to not only get new PRs but also in a big way Congrats

 

[MAC_32]

Congrats Ivan, beer and Acer. MAC - you can't even post a time? C'mon man!

LOL, time was not good as this race was very hilly but seeing as how the winner is a runner at Ohio State and only hit 17:15 i am not discouraged. 1k plus runners and the only ones that beat my 20:15 were either high school or college runners. Write up after family leaves tomorrow

 

[Ned]

My brother is selling his lightly used Garmin 305 for $100, if anyone needs/wants one. I asked him if I could post it here before he threw it up on ebay.

 

[gruecd]

Happy Black Friday, everybody!

My left Achilles is still bothering me, so I'm still not running, even though my legs feel fine otherwise. I did jog the 5-mile Turkey Trot with the GF yesterday. She's not a runner, but she did manage to break 45 minutes (44:55), and she ran the last mile in 8:10, so she was definitely happy with her performance.

Anyway....the reason I popped on here, I know we've discussed this casually, but how many of you guys are seriously interested in doing the Ragnar Chicago relay on June 7-8?? Cost for a 12-person team is $115/runner plus your share of the van rental. I suspect that many of us are thinking ahead to our 2013 race calendars, so I want to get this nailed down sooner rather than later. Let me know your thoughts....

Also, for you Midwestern ultra guys, the Marquette Trail 50 (August 17) is running a Black Friday special on registration today. Only $37.50. I might sign up just for the hell of it...

 

[tri-man 47]

I managed to set new PRs at all four main distances in 2012:5K 22:10 --> 22:0810K 47:55 --> 46:24Half 1:47:05 --> 1:43:02Full: 3:58:54 --> 3:50:04

What an excellent year!!! Those are some serious improvements. 2012 was definitely one for the books, IK!

 

[Dexter]

Detroit Turkey Trot 10k

Awesome race which I've done many times. Perfect weather and crowds are always amazing.

One major problem though with the finish line. Every year when I finish it's always crowded and this year was the worst. I actually had to stop and walk (when I wasn't standing there waiting the last .2 miles. The problem is you finish under Cobo Hall and it gets INSANELY crowded add into it some construction and you get the mess I and thousands of other people were stuck in.

How the race organizers didn't see this would be a problem when it's a problem every year is beyond me.

 

[Ned]

Happy Black Friday, everybody!

My left Achilles is still bothering me, so I'm still not running, even though my legs feel fine otherwise. I did jog the 5-mile Turkey Trot with the GF yesterday. She's not a runner, but she did manage to break 45 minutes (44:55), and she ran the last mile in 8:10, so she was definitely happy with her performance.

Anyway....the reason I popped on here, I know we've discussed this casually, but how many of you guys are seriously interested in doing the Ragnar Chicago relay on June 7-8?? Cost for a 12-person team is $115/runner plus your share of the van rental. I suspect that many of us are thinking ahead to our 2013 race calendars, so I want to get this nailed down sooner rather than later. Let me know your thoughts....

Also, for you Midwestern ultra guys, the Marquette Trail 50 (August 17) is running a Black Friday special on registration today. Only $37.50. I might sign up just for the hell of it...

Count me as a definite for Ragnar Chicago. to the GF!

 

[sho nuff]

Some nice races out there again...and Congrats on a great year of PRs Ivan.

Looking at that your endurance over those longer races definitely was some major improvement. Great job.

For me...been a slow week...started out not feeling well early in the week...but got out for a few runs before heading to Memphis for T-giving.

Hit the path here for 9 yesterday...nice and easy with a few pace miles in there to get my legs going a bit.

12 miler tomorrow as my last double digit before the marathon back here next Saturday.

Going to head downtown Memphis in a bit to drive the course and check things out and parking out for next weekend.

 

[Dexter]

Also, for you Midwestern ultra guys, the Marquette Trail 50 (August 17) is running a Black Friday special on registration today. Only $37.50. I might sign up just for the hell of it...

Only if I can ride my mountain bike

 

[2Young2BBald]

Detroit Turkey Trot 10k

Awesome race which I've done many times. Perfect weather and crowds are always amazing.

One major problem though with the finish line. Every year when I finish it's always crowded and this year was the worst. I actually had to stop and walk (when I wasn't standing there waiting the last .2 miles. The problem is you finish under Cobo Hall and it gets INSANELY crowded add into it some construction and you get the mess I and thousands of other people were stuck in.

How the race organizers didn't see this would be a problem when it's a problem every year is beyond me.

It was a mess, we just took it in stride. If you need a laugh, head over to the race's Facebook Page. People are STROKING out about how they were going for a PR, complaining about dogs, strollers, etc. WTF did they think they were in for, pretty clear this is a fun run.

 

[sho nuff]

And grue...on the Ragnar thing...you can put me down as an "emergency backup plan".

Can't committ to it (and Im sure you can find stronger runners)...but in a pinch if you guys are short a guy or need a guy...I can try and convince the wife and make it a trip up to Menasha to see the family as well.

Also, may do it by PM...but would your group be running the morning of Dec. 29th in Appleton again? I will be up that way for a few days and will get a few runs in likely. If you all are, I will finalize our plans with the family and let you know.

 

[prosopis]

5 miles @ 8:40 and that was before the day began

 

[tri-man 47]

Well, with 60 degree warmth on T'giving, I used the morning hours to successfully knock out a number of outdoor projects around the house - nothing pressing, so just a great way to enjoy the weather. But that meant I did a 10 trail run this a.m. after the temp had dropped to about 35 degrees with a stiff "arctic" wind blowing from the NW (sent down from the plains by IK).

Ragnar Chicago: I don't expect to do that. I'll be mid-dissertation, and can't afford to overload my summer with a two-day event. Since it's in my own backyard, so to speak, it doesn't excite me like the Kentucky run.

 

[AcerFC]

My official time for my 5 miles turkey trot was 38:50. I'm very happy with that.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I was much stiffer/sorer than I had expected today, but I still got 10 very slow miles in.

 

[Ned]

Well, with 60 degree warmth on T'giving, I used the morning hours to successfully knock out a number of outdoor projects around the house - nothing pressing, so just a great way to enjoy the weather. But that meant I did a 10 trail run this a.m. after the temp had dropped to about 35 degrees with a stiff "arctic" wind blowing from the NW (sent down from the plains by IK).Ragnar Chicago: I don't expect to do that. I'll be mid-dissertation, and can't afford to overload my summer with a two-day event. Since it's in my own backyard, so to speak, it doesn't excite me like the Kentucky run.

I was hoping you were gonna go. Did my first post marathon run today and surprisingly felt good. 4mi recovery @ 9:38/133. That was until I stopped and immediately stiffened up. Quads/hips feel like I ran 17. I was surprised how quick that was at such a low HR/effort.

 

[sho nuff]

Odd pain in my knee the last several weeks.

Sort of feels like something "stretching" along the outside of my right knee.

Does not hurt while I run or after in anyway that I notice.

It hurts when I get down in the floor with my kids or "kneeling" to tie their shoes.

Even sometimes getting into bed when if I bend my knee all the way I feel the stretching feeling.

Its not that concerning as it has not affected any run...just hoping its just that and nothing "pops" during the run next week.

any thoughts?

 

[beer 302]

Odd pain in my knee the last several weeks.

Sort of feels like something "stretching" along the outside of my right knee.

Does not hurt while I run or after in anyway that I notice.

It hurts when I get down in the floor with my kids or "kneeling" to tie their shoes.

Even sometimes getting into bed when if I bend my knee all the way I feel the stretching feeling.

Its not that concerning as it has not affected any run...just hoping its just that and nothing "pops" during the run next week.

any thoughts?

Don't do that I got nothing

 

[The_Man]

Well, with 60 degree warmth on T'giving, I used the morning hours to successfully knock out a number of outdoor projects around the house - nothing pressing, so just a great way to enjoy the weather. But that meant I did a 10 trail run this a.m. after the temp had dropped to about 35 degrees with a stiff "arctic" wind blowing from the NW (sent down from the plains by IK).Ragnar Chicago: I don't expect to do that. I'll be mid-dissertation, and can't afford to overload my summer with a two-day event. Since it's in my own backyard, so to speak, it doesn't excite me like the Kentucky run.

I was hoping you were gonna go. Did my first post marathon run today and surprisingly felt good. 4mi recovery @ 9:38/133. That was until I stopped and immediately stiffened up. Quads/hips feel like I ran 17. I was surprised how quick that was at such a low HR/effort.

Ned, now that you've run a best-case marathon, how did your HR match up with your expectation? I'm thinking that maybe your actual marathon HR was higher than your projected HR -- which makes me wonder if your projected HR levels are a little low? Just a thought.5 miles 3 times so far this week. Average pace has gone from 8:41 to 8:30 and then today I did 2.5 at 7:57 pace, blew up and had to rest for a couple minutes, then did the last 2.5 at 8:22 pace.Sore as hell afterward, as I'm so out of shape and just taking the very first steps to getting back in shape. Will try to stretch it out to 7 or 8 tomorrow, and then just do a short recovery run Sunday.

 

[Ned]

Well, with 60 degree warmth on T'giving, I used the morning hours to successfully knock out a number of outdoor projects around the house - nothing pressing, so just a great way to enjoy the weather. But that meant I did a 10 trail run this a.m. after the temp had dropped to about 35 degrees with a stiff "arctic" wind blowing from the NW (sent down from the plains by IK).

Ragnar Chicago: I don't expect to do that. I'll be mid-dissertation, and can't afford to overload my summer with a two-day event. Since it's in my own backyard, so to speak, it doesn't excite me like the Kentucky run.

I was hoping you were gonna go. Did my first post marathon run today and surprisingly felt good. 4mi recovery @ 9:38/133. That was until I stopped and immediately stiffened up. Quads/hips feel like I ran 17. I was surprised how quick that was at such a low HR/effort.

Ned, now that you've run a best-case marathon, how did your HR match up with your expectation? I'm thinking that maybe your actual marathon HR was higher than your projected HR -- which makes me wonder if your projected HR levels are a little low? Just a thought.5 miles 3 times so far this week. Average pace has gone from 8:41 to 8:30 and then today I did 2.5 at 7:57 pace, blew up and had to rest for a couple minutes, then did the last 2.5 at 8:22 pace.

Sore as hell afterward, as I'm so out of shape and just taking the very first steps to getting back in shape. Will try to stretch it out to 7 or 8 tomorrow, and then just do a short recovery run Sunday.

God I wish I knew, but my watch was reading steel curtain's HRM to whole way. When he smoked me on the hills at mile 19/20, my watch went blank. Running at these low HRs for recovery and MLR/LR is what seemed to really kick my fitness into gear. I'm a believer. Siked to see you back in the saddle. You'll find your legs soon enough. Big old :finger: being able to run that fast when you're "so out of shape".