Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

[SFBayDuck]

I went with the Garmin 310xt, it just arrived today. I looked at the Suunto line, as well as the Garmin 910. I ended up comparing the 310 and the 910, and with both having 20 hours of battery life the only real difference I could see for strictly run usage (it had some cool multisport stuff) was that the 910 had a barometer for altitude, while the 310 relies on GPS. While I loved the idea of more accurate altitude data while on runs (Garmin Connect software "corrects" the altitude data once it's uploaded), it's not like I'm mountaineering so I couldn't justify the extra $150 or so just for that.

The Heart Rate strap seems more comfortable and lighter as well. I'm looking forward to taking her out for a spin tomorrow!

 

[Sand]

I went with the Garmin 310xt, it just arrived today. I looked at the Suunto line, as well as the Garmin 910. I ended up comparing the 310 and the 910, and with both having 20 hours of battery life the only real difference I could see for strictly run usage (it had some cool multisport stuff) was that the 910 had a barometer for altitude, while the 310 relies on GPS. While I loved the idea of more accurate altitude data while on runs (Garmin Connect software "corrects" the altitude data once it's uploaded), it's not like I'm mountaineering so I couldn't justify the extra $150 or so just for that.

The Heart Rate strap seems more comfortable and lighter as well. I'm looking forward to taking her out for a spin tomorrow!

The 910 also has some really nice swim functions, but for you that is also not important. I have had my 310 for quite a while and it just keeps working. Very nice machine. If you upload your runs into Strava you will get good altitude measurements, so not a huge loss for the barometric meter, either.

 

[Annyong]

Finally warms up in my corner of the workd and Holy crap I hate running in the heat. A suckdix of 158 destroyed me. Ran 3.1 miles in 24:54. First mile was 7:10. Lol I suck.

You're in freakin' Atlanta - gotta expect that at some point, though today was particularly brutal. I ain't even touching 8 minute miles in this kind of heat. Really is no wonder that somehow I end up with huge bike mileage and little running through the summer...

Lol I'm in the Chicago burbs. I've been borrowing this name for an extended period since my previous names are in hiatus till 2014 for some reason. Can still get hot, just not Atlanta hot though

 

[2Young2BBald]

3) Those are some killer run paces - summer of speed, eh?

You know what, I really think it has something to do with the crew here trying to get faster as a motivating factor I am definitely trying to push things more this year. I don't wear a HR monitor at this event as I go shirtless in the second run :X and don't want to show off the man bra. I think if I'd seen my HR I would have backed things down a bit. And, I am getting to the point where I am doing the same events a 3rd and even 4th time and I am starting to not care so much about flaming out and the potential of walking in a shorter event or even a DNF (although, DNFing in a swim event might be less than fun . I'd really like to see what you could do in an Aquathon. Your swim times, coupled with your speed would be be hard to match.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I went with the Garmin 310xt, it just arrived today. I looked at the Suunto line, as well as the Garmin 910. I ended up comparing the 310 and the 910, and with both having 20 hours of battery life the only real difference I could see for strictly run usage (it had some cool multisport stuff) was that the 910 had a barometer for altitude, while the 310 relies on GPS. While I loved the idea of more accurate altitude data while on runs (Garmin Connect software "corrects" the altitude data once it's uploaded), it's not like I'm mountaineering so I couldn't justify the extra $150 or so just for that.

The Heart Rate strap seems more comfortable and lighter as well. I'm looking forward to taking her out for a spin tomorrow!

The 910 also has some really nice swim functions, but for you that is also not important. I have had my 310 for quite a while and it just keeps working. Very nice machine. If you upload your runs into Strava you will get good altitude measurements, so not a huge loss for the barometric meter, either.

I use the Strava free version and haven't seen the altitude corrections, does that require the paid version?

 

[tri-man 47]

Great stuff, 2Young!!! I love the swim battle you engaged in ...2 funny.

 

[parasaurolophus]

10 miles for me today. I will regret it tomorrow as I can barely move. Never run 10 before. Hammies were killing me from the boot camp, but I toughed it out. Not sure how hot it was, but it is 81 now with a 67 dew point, so I am guessing it was around 85. I was dripping wet from head to toe.

Congrats on hitting double digits! How are you feeling today?

Welcome back, Ned. Hope everything is going o.k. Hey, have you ever thought about doing the Rehoboth Marathon? December 7 this year. I'm very interested, and also think that's about as soon as I could possibly be ready for a marathon -- looks like running a BQ this fall is not happening, based on my current level of fitness (low) and weight (at 196 lbs, an all-time high!).

But I'm back into it. 23ish miles this week (don't have the Garmin here at work for the exact tally) and feeling good and committed - though very, very slow. I weighed less than 175 for my last marathon (Nov. 2011); it sucks to carry a 20-lb. bag of belly fat when you're trying to run.

Feel pretty awful. I was walking up one of the warehouse aisles today at work and I saw a piece of trash on the ground. I had to basically act like a giraffe at a watering hole in order to pick it up.

 

[Sand]

I went with the Garmin 310xt, it just arrived today. I looked at the Suunto line, as well as the Garmin 910. I ended up comparing the 310 and the 910, and with both having 20 hours of battery life the only real difference I could see for strictly run usage (it had some cool multisport stuff) was that the 910 had a barometer for altitude, while the 310 relies on GPS. While I loved the idea of more accurate altitude data while on runs (Garmin Connect software "corrects" the altitude data once it's uploaded), it's not like I'm mountaineering so I couldn't justify the extra $150 or so just for that.

The Heart Rate strap seems more comfortable and lighter as well. I'm looking forward to taking her out for a spin tomorrow!

The 910 also has some really nice swim functions, but for you that is also not important. I have had my 310 for quite a while and it just keeps working. Very nice machine. If you upload your runs into Strava you will get good altitude measurements, so not a huge loss for the barometric meter, either.

I use the Strava free version and haven't seen the altitude corrections, does that require the paid version?

The elevation readout on all versions is there.

Strava page - "Strava detects devices with barometric altimeters and recognizes the data from that source. Since elevation data derived from a GPS signal is fairly inaccurate, Strava automatically corrects elevation derived from a GPS source by consulting elevation databases to determine the elevation at each point in the activity. "

 

[prosopis]

I did 6.75 miles today- On the treadmill-It is well over 100 here and with the monsoons the dew point is up to. I am still doing long runs early am on weekends but they are brutal and tough to finish.

Having said that I do see people running outside in these temps. My hat is off to them, I do believe those days are done for me. A man has to know his limitations.

 

[Annyong]

I did 6.75 miles today- On the treadmill-It is well over 100 here and with the monsoons the dew point is up to. I am still doing long runs early am on weekends but they are brutal and tough to finish.

Having said that I do see people running outside in these temps. My hat is off to them, I do believe those days are done for me. A man has to know his limitations.

Man that's brutal. I think I still have a gym membership but doubt I'll be able to get any more than 5 miles in before boredom gets the best of me

 

[Ned]

Welcome back, Ned. Hope everything is going o.k. Hey, have you ever thought about doing the Rehoboth Marathon? December 7 this year. I'm very interested, and also think that's about as soon as I could possibly be ready for a marathon -- looks like running a BQ this fall is not happening, based on my current level of fitness (low) and weight (at 196 lbs, an all-time high!).

But I'm back into it. 23ish miles this week (don't have the Garmin here at work for the exact tally) and feeling good and committed - though very, very slow. I weighed less than 175 for my last marathon (Nov. 2011); it sucks to carry a 20-lb. bag of belly fat when you're trying to run.

Glad to see you back in it! I forgot to respond to your other post. We go to Bethany every year over July 4th week and love it. Private beach on one of the cleanest stretches of shore in the nation. Can't beat it.

Things are OK. Bermuda was awesome and Mom did well. She went a bit downhill last week after the trip (while we were in Bethany) and is in Hospice care. End goal is to get her home and will have some sort of 24hr care between friends, family, and nurses. Hospice has her very comfortable between O2 and meds. She seems more comfortable and upbeat now than when she was in Bermuda. So there's that at least.

I've been tempted to run Rehoboth, but I just can't quit Philly. I've toyed with a Philly/Rehoboth double, but it would be a tough sell to my wife. I've seen some complaints about the course in Rehoboth (bad directions by course volunteers, measuring long, etc), but otherwise its a great and fast marathon.

Double Race Report from yesterday:

You're a friggin' animal! To this non-swimmer, thats a ton of swimming on top of 2 fast 2K's. Kudos, GB.

Well, let's go ahead and balance that concept out. Today's run - It was 83/80-90% or so out there (just sunny after a rain in already sticky conditions). So 160-165 suck index. That's about my limit, I guess. I was having a hard time just keeping on going - i.e. I flat out suck in conditions like that.

You guys that are getting in 40+ miles a week amaze me. In these conditions I'm struggling for 15-20.

You're a brave soul running in this heat with the sun on top of it. :X The sun is a runner's kryptonite. Suck index is temp + Dew, BTW.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Swam 1000meters last night since my legs are so sore. Hadnt been in a pool for a very long time. I am not a good swimmer.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Swam 1000meters last night since my legs are so sore. Hadnt been in a pool for a very long time. I am not a good swimmer.

Not yet, but you can learn. Find a swimmer that looks like they know what they are doing and/or a guard and ask them to watch you swim for a bit and give you a few pointers. Then, YouTube up swim videos. Early on, I found it easy to apply what I learned watching video. some quick hits; slow down to go faster by taking longer and smoother strokes. Enter your hands early (before the arm is extended) and then lengthen before the down stroke. Use the lane marker to make sure you are not crossing over your body by swimming down the middle and throw your arms just outside the maker on both sides. I think swimming made made me a faster runner and provided an endurance boost.

 

[Hang 10]

Track work this morning...nothing spectacular but pretty solid after a hard week of cross training.

1 x 400

3 x 800

1 x 400

(400M RI)

1:25

2:59

2:56

2:54

1:19

 

[gruecd]

Finished my run almost 30 minutes ago, and I'm still sweating. I may never get to work...

Craptastic run, too. "Tropically" humid the last few days, so the air is THICK. You know it's bad when you walk outside and your sunglasses immediately fog up. Hard to even breathe out there, so the legs felt like lead. Even had to stop for a short walk break in the second-to-last mile. Overall 8 miles at 8:46/mile.

 

[koby925]

8 miles this morning. 2 mile warmup, 3 mile tempo, 3 mile cooldown

Tempo total - 19:22 (Average 6:27/mile)

Mile 1 - 6:30 mostly flat

Mile 2 - 6:28 gradual and slight downhill

Mile 3 - 6:24 gradual and slight uphill

Pretty happy with this considering it was a morning workout and the fact that I negative split uphill.

 

[Hang 10]

8 miles this morning. 2 mile warmup, 3 mile tempo, 3 mile cooldown

Tempo total - 19:22 (Average 6:27/mile)

Mile 1 - 6:30 mostly flat

Mile 2 - 6:28 gradual and slight downhill

Mile 3 - 6:24 gradual and slight uphill

Pretty happy with this considering it was a morning workout and the fact that I negative split uphill.

Nice work.

 

[worrierking]

Another bad suck index run this morning. Ten miles at a glacial 10:42 pace. Soon my pace will be slower than continental drift. I understand there is a cold front on the way. It will be here in October.

Koby, Grue, Hang, 2Young, you guys are #######' fast. Nice runs.

Ned, glad your mom is comfortable and upbeat. Peace to you.

Pros, 6 miles is my absolute maximum on a treadmill. I just can't deal with the boredom. Last TM run all the tvs in the gym were tuned to Nancy Grace and I didn't have a remote nearby. I was near suicide at the end of the run.

Para, I have a pool that is just long enough to get a swim workout in. You gain efficiency very qucikly the more swimming you do. The first few swims each year are ugly but eventually it gets really easy and I can swim for hours. Good luck.

 

[sho nuff]

Im so sick of this mf'ing treadmill.

That is all...Wife out for 11 days to India and having to be here with the kids makes it impossible to get outside.

Will get some relief from that while in Wisconsin to get a few early runs done while my family watches the kids for a bit.

 

[tri-man 47]

Last week's training report while at our cottage, which means hills were scattered throughout the runs:

M: 6 miles easy

T: 7 miles - tempo (late miles of 7:44, 7:40, 6:54)

W: off

Th: 12 miles w/the 10 mile trail race

F: off

S: 10 miles - pace (8:08/mile, HR 157 in the 80 degree afternoon heat)

S: 21 miles @ 8:42/mile, HR 143

56 miles with some hard effort on a few of the runs. I was also working on a big painting project at the cottage for several hours most days (hence the late run on Saturday). I really need to learn to relax.

 

[Sand]

Well, let's go ahead and balance that concept out. Today's run - It was 83/80-90% or so out there (just sunny after a rain in already sticky conditions). So 160-165 suck index. That's about my limit, I guess. I was having a hard time just keeping on going - i.e. I flat out suck in conditions like that.

You guys that are getting in 40+ miles a week amaze me. In these conditions I'm struggling for 15-20.

You're a brave soul running in this heat with the sun on top of it. :X The sun is a runner's kryptonite. Suck index is temp + Dew, BTW.

dpcalc.org says at 83/80 the suck index is 160. That was the low end of what it was out there yesterday.

 

[Juxtatarot]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

 

[Ned]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

 

[gruecd]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Last week's training report while at our cottage, which means hills were scattered throughout the runs:

M: 6 miles easy

T: 7 miles - tempo (late miles of 7:44, 7:40, 6:54)

W: off

Th: 12 miles w/the 10 mile trail race

F: off

S: 10 miles - pace (8:08/mile, HR 157 in the 80 degree afternoon heat)

S: 21 miles @ 8:42/mile, HR 143

56 miles with some hard effort on a few of the runs. I was also working on a big painting project at the cottage for several hours most days (hence the late run on Saturday). I really need to learn to relax.

Now that's a great week! It's time for you to sign up for a 50 miler

 

[Sand]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

I'd rather run intervals in the heat with appropriate breaks than a continuous run.

 

[Hang 10]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Kind of off topic, but figured I'd post it here.

I know I mentioned that I signed up for a mud factor race and they changed the date on me. I was unable to make the new date and I wanted my money back which they refused to do. I basically told them it wasn't worth their effort to fight me on this one because sooner or later I would get it back.

Challenged the credit card charge and got it back. Mud factor actually told me that doing this was a felony and I would be arrested since they had proof I would be fraudulently filing for it. Got notified today that the review of the incident stands and the charge back is officially 100% mine.

I really want to send a follow up email to mud factor gloating. Any ideas for a good snarky email, or should I just let it lie?

 

[Hang 10]

Kind of off topic, but figured I'd post it here.

I know I mentioned that I signed up for a mud factor race and they changed the date on me. I was unable to make the new date and I wanted my money back which they refused to do. I basically told them it wasn't worth their effort to fight me on this one because sooner or later I would get it back.

Challenged the credit card charge and got it back. Mud factor actually told me that doing this was a felony and I would be arrested since they had proof I would be fraudulently filing for it. Got notified today that the review of the incident stands and the charge back is officially 100% mine.

I really want to send a follow up email to mud factor gloating. Any ideas for a good snarky email, or should I just let it lie?

These ####ing mudruns. Why would they ever think they could change the date and not void their own stupid contract?

 

[Juxtatarot]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

I'd rather run intervals in the heat with appropriate breaks than a continuous run.

Yeah, that makes sense but for some reason the starting and stopping plays tricks with my mind.

 

[Juxtatarot]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

Yeah, I'll still run. I'll just try to accept the fact that I'll probably be slower than desired.

 

[Sean]

Nice race 2Young! Swimming is something I wish I was better at (or even good at all at) and had more time for.

Welcome back Ned. Glad your mom is being made comfortable at least.

Plodding through the heat with everyone else here. Did 5.5 @ 8:20 today, was just gross out. By the time I was done I looked like I ran through a rain storm.

 

[Hang 10]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

Yeah, I'll still run. I'll just try to accept the fact that I'll probably be slower than desired.

I just operate with the idea that you train in the conditions that you're given no matter what (within reason) because that's the same way it's going to be when there's a race. You don't want to be thrown off your game when the conditions aren't ideal.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Kind of off topic, but figured I'd post it here.

I know I mentioned that I signed up for a mud factor race and they changed the date on me. I was unable to make the new date and I wanted my money back which they refused to do. I basically told them it wasn't worth their effort to fight me on this one because sooner or later I would get it back.

Challenged the credit card charge and got it back. Mud factor actually told me that doing this was a felony and I would be arrested since they had proof I would be fraudulently filing for it. Got notified today that the review of the incident stands and the charge back is officially 100% mine.

I really want to send a follow up email to mud factor gloating. Any ideas for a good snarky email, or should I just let it lie?

These ####ing mudruns. Why would they ever think they could change the date and not void their own stupid contract?

In their reply to the complaint they claimed that they have a very clear "no refund" policy. They sent in the part of the agreement where it says that even in the event of the race being canceled that there will be no refunds. They then sent in a copy of my registration where I initialed that part.

I sent in response the part of the agreement where it stated that the only reasons for cancellation were severe weather. Basically told the guy that they threw a date out there for a race. Told people it would happen with the exception of bad weather. Cancelled it and refused to give the money back claiming we told you there were no refunds a month before the race date. WHich obviously rules out bad weather.

 

[Hang 10]

Kind of off topic, but figured I'd post it here.

I know I mentioned that I signed up for a mud factor race and they changed the date on me. I was unable to make the new date and I wanted my money back which they refused to do. I basically told them it wasn't worth their effort to fight me on this one because sooner or later I would get it back.

Challenged the credit card charge and got it back. Mud factor actually told me that doing this was a felony and I would be arrested since they had proof I would be fraudulently filing for it. Got notified today that the review of the incident stands and the charge back is officially 100% mine.

I really want to send a follow up email to mud factor gloating. Any ideas for a good snarky email, or should I just let it lie?

These ####ing mudruns. Why would they ever think they could change the date and not void their own stupid contract?

In their reply to the complaint they claimed that they have a very clear "no refund" policy. They sent in the part of the agreement where it says that even in the event of the race being canceled that there will be no refunds. They then sent in a copy of my registration where I initialed that part.I sent in response the part of the agreement where it stated that the only reasons for cancellation were severe weather. Basically told the guy that they threw a date out there for a race. Told people it would happen with the exception of bad weather. Cancelled it and refused to give the money back claiming we told you there were no refunds a month before the race date. WHich obviously rules out bad weather.

Exactly. The no refund policy almost always revolves around acts of God/weather issues. If they have to change the date of the race because of poor planning, that's on them IMO.

 

[MAC_32]

Got up to 6 miles Sunday, first time past 5 since last year and I maintained close to an 8 minute pace throughout. Most happy about the second part as I was able to just keep it to a medium pace, unlike usual.

Off yesterday, feeling good today. Feels like an interval day. Thinking half mile intervals over lunch sounds good. I've been all over the place on different types of interval workouts and it's been working well, so trying to keep that up. Not getting into a comfortable zone with any one or two speed workouts, something different each time out.

 

[Annyong]

after doing warrior dash and a color run, i doubt ill ever do one of those gimmicky runs again. always poorly planned and such a money grab.

 

[tri-man 47]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

I'd rather run intervals in the heat with appropriate breaks than a continuous run.

Yeah, that makes sense but for some reason the starting and stopping plays tricks with my mind.

My logic is the same as Sand's. I'd just recommend longer breaks between the intervals to give your HR a better chance of coming down. It will truly be a case of mind over matter. We look forward to hearing of your success.

 

[koby925]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

I'd rather run intervals in the heat with appropriate breaks than a continuous run.

I agree with Sand. Especially if it's the dew point driving the index up. Running a long continuous or tempo run with a high dewpoint is brutal.

 

[Sand]

Kind of off topic, but figured I'd post it here.

I know I mentioned that I signed up for a mud factor race and they changed the date on me. I was unable to make the new date and I wanted my money back which they refused to do. I basically told them it wasn't worth their effort to fight me on this one because sooner or later I would get it back.

Challenged the credit card charge and got it back. Mud factor actually told me that doing this was a felony and I would be arrested since they had proof I would be fraudulently filing for it. Got notified today that the review of the incident stands and the charge back is officially 100% mine.

I really want to send a follow up email to mud factor gloating. Any ideas for a good snarky email, or should I just let it lie?

These ####ing mudruns. Why would they ever think they could change the date and not void their own stupid contract?

In their reply to the complaint they claimed that they have a very clear "no refund" policy. They sent in the part of the agreement where it says that even in the event of the race being canceled that there will be no refunds. They then sent in a copy of my registration where I initialed that part.

I sent in response the part of the agreement where it stated that the only reasons for cancellation were severe weather. Basically told the guy that they threw a date out there for a race. Told people it would happen with the exception of bad weather. Cancelled it and refused to give the money back claiming we told you there were no refunds a month before the race date. WHich obviously rules out bad weather.

I've heard many bad things about these races - not telling people where it is (just a "no farther than 90 miles from XXX"), changing dates, shoddy organization, charging for spectators, etc.

I can understand for no refund if it monsoons that morning - most races have that as most of their costs are fixed and spent by race day. But the balls to just change dates is unreal.

 

[MAC_32]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

I'd rather run intervals in the heat with appropriate breaks than a continuous run.

Shorter distance guys are going to say this, and I agree. I'd also expect the longer distance guys to disagree. I loathe anything > 4 miles in the heat, but am perfectly alright with workouts < 30 mins in duration in maximum suck index conditions. Just as the sweat levels get to ridiculous levels the workout is ending, good timing. The end is usually miserable, but bearable. My body has adapted to these types of workouts though, just as the distance guys prefer longer pace runs. It's all about adaptation.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I am not sure what others do, but I am loving the Nathan hydration pack I bought. Only wear it when it is real hot or going longer than an hour, but I love it.

I am quite fond of putting a little microfiber towel in the front left pocket and filling the bladder with mostly ice. When I start to get real hot, i take the towel out put freezing cold water on it and place it on my head or back of my neck. I dont even notice I am wearing it, with the exception of the freezing cold spot it gives me on my back which also feels great.

 

[gruecd]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

No, I absolutely would not start a race with a suck index over 150. I'd DNS and wait for better weather. I wouldn't waste months of training for a sub-optimal performance in terrible weather.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.

Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

To hell with that.

 

[Hang 10]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

No, I absolutely would not start a race with a suck index over 150. I'd DNS and wait for better weather. I wouldn't waste months of training for a sub-optimal performance in terrible weather.

You're not going PR every race but you can still compete. Everyone faces the same conditions.

 

[MAC_32]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

No, I absolutely would not start a race with a suck index over 150. I'd DNS and wait for better weather. I wouldn't waste months of training for a sub-optimal performance in terrible weather.

You're not going PR every race but you can still compete. Everyone faces the same conditions.

Exactly. Approach I ended up taking with my race in June. Once I came to terms that I probably couldn't run a sub 18 I just decided to run the best possible race I could and compete. I might have timed 18:30 but I got an AG win, 2nd overall, and out kicked two in the final 1/4 mile. Accomplishments aren't always raw time based in races.

 

[gruecd]

You guys are scaring me. The worst suck index I've run in this year has been the upper 140s but it will be well over 150 this evening and I plan to run intervals (my weakness)! :X

You have a good reason to be scared. Screw that ####.Freeze a water bottle or 2 to have on hand. It'll melt quick enough and still be somewhat cold to drink.

I'm with Ned. No way I'd even attempt that.

Why not? Don't you ever have races when it's hot? I say, sack up and run.

No, I absolutely would not start a race with a suck index over 150. I'd DNS and wait for better weather. I wouldn't waste months of training for a sub-optimal performance in terrible weather.

You're not going PR every race but you can still compete. Everyone faces the same conditions.

Exactly. Approach I ended up taking with my race in June. Once I came to terms that I probably couldn't run a sub 18 I just decided to run the best possible race I could and compete. I might have timed 18:30 but I got an AG win, 2nd overall, and out kicked two in the final 1/4 mile. Accomplishments aren't always raw time based in races.

Maybe 5- and 10Ks and stuff. But Boston doesn't care if it was hot and humid when I miss my qualifier.

 

[MAC_32]

Pretty sure that is a totally different scenario than anyone else is talking about.

 

[beer 302]

I ran in a 155 suckex a few weeks ago, probably one of the more brutal runs of my short career. Can't imagine trying to race, any distance, in that muck.

 

[prosopis]

Finished my run almost 30 minutes ago, and I'm still sweating. I may never get to work...

Craptastic run, too. "Tropically" humid the last few days, so the air is THICK. You know it's bad when you walk outside and your sunglasses immediately fog up. Hard to even breathe out there, so the legs felt like lead. Even had to stop for a short walk break in the second-to-last mile. Overall 8 miles at 8:46/mile.

That is pretty impressive in the heat/humidity. I am feeling more and more woosy reading about you guys sucking it up and hitting the streets in the heat.