Ran a 10k in June (18 Viewers)

[koby925]

Yikes, sorry to hear Ivan. Ankles are my achilles, if you will. Unfortunately, I've had numerous sprains to my right ankle and broken my left. Hang in there and RICE as others said.

This morning, I kinda got chicked. 2.3 miles into my 10 miler, I see a woman start her run 200 yards or so in front of me. I had shaken out the cobwebs by this point so was settled into 7:30-7:40s pace after a couple in the low to mid 8s. I notice she's moving pretty well but I'm slowly gaining on her. Probably one of those fast starters that burns out, I think to myself. Then I stop gaining on her. And in fact, she starts pulling away. So I started picking it up. My mile 4 was 7:21 and I probably lost 8-10 seconds on her. Then Mile 5 before I turned around was gradually uphill. I labored through it as she maintained smooth form ahead. I ran that mile in 7:12, again not gaining ground on her. I turn around and take one more look as she keeps rolling smoothly along in the other direction. I kept checking over my shoulder every once in awhile to see if she was hawking me down from behind.

Finished my 10 mile in just over 74 minutes which I feel good about, especially for a morning run. But now I know there are chicks around here comfortably running 7 min mile distance runs.

 

[worrierking]

Ok, that was funny.

Back on a non-penis topic, I thought this was a great WS100 race report. I'm not posting it because I'm obsessed with the race (I am), in fact the writer DNFd. What I found made it interesting is that this dude really knows his stuff - he's a physical therapist up in Eugene, an elite ultrarunner, and one who obviously consumes all of the information on running that he can get his hands on - kind of like me, but with the educational background to understand all of it. To me it was cool to hear what's going on in his mind during the race as he attempts to deal with unexpected complications.

It also makes my race reports look a little less....verbose.

Anyway, I hope a few of you enjoy: Oh, ####!

For anyone who has problems with muscle cramps, an amazing follow up article from Joe. Be sure to read through the comments afterward as well as he responds to many of them: Cramping My Style

That was a very interesting read Duck. Hamstring cramps are a serious issue for me in Marathons. I have run ten and cramped in five of them. Whether or not I cramp and how well I am able to handle the cramps when they come is the primary determining factor of whether or not I have a successful race.

 

[Annyong]

Yikes, sorry to hear Ivan. Ankles are my achilles, if you will. Unfortunately, I've had numerous sprains to my right ankle and broken my left. Hang in there and RICE as others said.

This morning, I kinda got chicked. 2.3 miles into my 10 miler, I see a woman start her run 200 yards or so in front of me. I had shaken out the cobwebs by this point so was settled into 7:30-7:40s pace after a couple in the low to mid 8s. I notice she's moving pretty well but I'm slowly gaining on her. Probably one of those fast starters that burns out, I think to myself. Then I stop gaining on her. And in fact, she starts pulling away. So I started picking it up. My mile 4 was 7:21 and I probably lost 8-10 seconds on her. Then Mile 5 before I turned around was gradually uphill. I labored through it as she maintained smooth form ahead. I ran that mile in 7:12, again not gaining ground on her. I turn around and take one more look as she keeps rolling smoothly along in the other direction. I kept checking over my shoulder every once in awhile to see if she was hawking me down from behind.

Finished my 10 mile in just over 74 minutes which I feel good about, especially for a morning run. But now I know there are chicks around here comfortably running 7 min mile distance runs.

was she hot? Please post pics of comparable from the internet. thanks.

 

[Sand]

Well ####. The sidewalk monster got me this morning and I fell and sprained my ankle about a mile into my run. I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've ever actually sprained an ankle for real, as opposed the kind of twist that you just walk off. I brought a couple of ice packs into the office and I'm icing it down now, but my 5K for this Saturday is definitely off, which blows because I thought I had a pretty reasonable shot to PR it. Oh well. This could have just as easily happened two days before a marathon, so I guess I'm sort of lucky that it was just a 5K.

I've only had sprained ankles a hundred times or so ( no exaggeration). There is exactly zero you can do for these except for ice. Well, I guess you could do what I did in college soccer and go out every day, resprain it, wait for the swelling and endorphins to kick in so the pain fades and complete the practice. But, in retrospect, I'd recommend that isn't the wisest choice available.

It will heal up and get stiff on you. You'll be able to tell when it is really still sprained or just stiff and you can run and loosen it up. Luckily these aren't like hamstrings which seem ok and then cripple you with no warning. These generally let you know where you stand.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Well ####. The sidewalk monster got me this morning and I fell and sprained my ankle about a mile into my run. I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've ever actually sprained an ankle for real, as opposed the kind of twist that you just walk off. I brought a couple of ice packs into the office and I'm icing it down now, but my 5K for this Saturday is definitely off, which blows because I thought I had a pretty reasonable shot to PR it. Oh well. This could have just as easily happened two days before a marathon, so I guess I'm sort of lucky that it was just a 5K.

I've only had sprained ankles a hundred times or so ( no exaggeration). There is exactly zero you can do for these except for ice. Well, I guess you could do what I did in college soccer and go out every day, resprain it, wait for the swelling and endorphins to kick in so the pain fades and complete the practice. But, in retrospect, I'd recommend that isn't the wisest choice available.

It will heal up and get stiff on you. You'll be able to tell when it is really still sprained or just stiff and you can run and loosen it up. Luckily these aren't like hamstrings which seem ok and then cripple you with no warning. These generally let you know where you stand.

Thanks, Sand. It seems strange to me because it hasn't swollen up much at all, but I still have very limited range of motion and can just barely hobble around with a massive Frankenstein-like limp.

I'm also getting annoyed at the people in my office. They're all aghast at the little scrape on my elbow that I covered up with gauze, like I somehow survived a Civil War injury or something, but the ankle is "just something you'll walk off." Um, no. If I could have walked it off, I wouldn't have cut my run short.

 

[koby925]

Yikes, sorry to hear Ivan. Ankles are my achilles, if you will. Unfortunately, I've had numerous sprains to my right ankle and broken my left. Hang in there and RICE as others said.

This morning, I kinda got chicked. 2.3 miles into my 10 miler, I see a woman start her run 200 yards or so in front of me. I had shaken out the cobwebs by this point so was settled into 7:30-7:40s pace after a couple in the low to mid 8s. I notice she's moving pretty well but I'm slowly gaining on her. Probably one of those fast starters that burns out, I think to myself. Then I stop gaining on her. And in fact, she starts pulling away. So I started picking it up. My mile 4 was 7:21 and I probably lost 8-10 seconds on her. Then Mile 5 before I turned around was gradually uphill. I labored through it as she maintained smooth form ahead. I ran that mile in 7:12, again not gaining ground on her. I turn around and take one more look as she keeps rolling smoothly along in the other direction. I kept checking over my shoulder every once in awhile to see if she was hawking me down from behind.

Finished my 10 mile in just over 74 minutes which I feel good about, especially for a morning run. But now I know there are chicks around here comfortably running 7 min mile distance runs.

was she hot? Please post pics of comparable from the internet. thanks.

Looked like it from behind. But, again, I NEVER CAUGHT UP TO HER to be able to tell. From behind, she looked a bit like http://www.theagencygroup.com/artist.aspx?ArtistID=6945 or possibly http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrities/ali-fedotowsky

 

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Finally got my weight where I want it more or less. Huge difference in running bases. No longer winded. Going to start couch to 5k training for the 4miler I've signed up for in September. Should be interesting. goal is to not have to stop to walk at all. I've NEVER been a distance runner...even in my younger athletic days of playing baseball, lacrosse, etc. This is new ground. I don't post much in here becuase you guys are all badasses but I enjoy follwing this thread.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Pretty sure my wife hates every one of you now btw.

I think she could handle the races and the running, but I may have now put her over the top with the intro a couple weeks ago of riding and now this week adding swimming and the boot camps.

I have gone back to doing my own laundry to ease the sting as I have been creating piles of it. I wear two shirts for every thing I do. Started years and years ago. Cant just wear one. So there have been days this summer I wear as many as 10 shirts.

I do think she is happy though that I am down 20 pounds and counting.

 

[gruecd]

I have gone back to doing my own laundry to ease the sting as I have been creating piles of it. I wear two shirts for every thing I do. Started years and years ago. Cant just wear one. So there have been days this summer I wear as many as 10 shirts.

To the contrary, the one thing that I actually do like about summer running is that there's so much less laundry to do. I run shirtless the vast majority of the time, so it's just socks and a pair of shorts. Easy peasy.Congratulations on your weight loss, by the way.

 

[Annyong]

I don't post much in here becuase you guys are all badasses but I enjoy follwing this thread.

whoa whoa whoa, don't lump me in with these savages.

good luck

 

[SteveC702]

Ok, that was funny.

Back on a non-penis topic, I thought this was a great WS100 race report. I'm not posting it because I'm obsessed with the race (I am), in fact the writer DNFd. What I found made it interesting is that this dude really knows his stuff - he's a physical therapist up in Eugene, an elite ultrarunner, and one who obviously consumes all of the information on running that he can get his hands on - kind of like me, but with the educational background to understand all of it. To me it was cool to hear what's going on in his mind during the race as he attempts to deal with unexpected complications.

It also makes my race reports look a little less....verbose.

Anyway, I hope a few of you enjoy: Oh, ####!

For anyone who has problems with muscle cramps, an amazing follow up article from Joe. Be sure to read through the comments afterward as well as he responds to many of them: Cramping My Style

That was a very interesting read Duck. Hamstring cramps are a serious issue for me in Marathons. I have run ten and cramped in five of them. Whether or not I cramp and how well I am able to handle the cramps when they come is the primary determining factor of whether or not I have a successful race.

Funny you should mention that, I have actually gotten hamstring cramps in 7 out of 8 marathons that I have finished. For the longest time I thought it was something missing in my training, but thanks to my recent (and ongoing) bout of ITBS my physical therapist discovered that I have a serious quadricep vs. hamstring imbalance. (quadriceps are much stronger than hamstrings). I am doing a lot of hamstring curls now (both with the machine, as well s the standing version with ankle weights). I am curious how this will translate to my hamstrings holding up in future marathons, although it's a long way down the road as I am starting back up again with a 1.5 mile run this afternoon to see how my recovery/rehab/therapy is coming along.

 

[worrierking]

Ok, that was funny.

Back on a non-penis topic, I thought this was a great WS100 race report. I'm not posting it because I'm obsessed with the race (I am), in fact the writer DNFd. What I found made it interesting is that this dude really knows his stuff - he's a physical therapist up in Eugene, an elite ultrarunner, and one who obviously consumes all of the information on running that he can get his hands on - kind of like me, but with the educational background to understand all of it. To me it was cool to hear what's going on in his mind during the race as he attempts to deal with unexpected complications.

It also makes my race reports look a little less....verbose.

Anyway, I hope a few of you enjoy: Oh, ####!

For anyone who has problems with muscle cramps, an amazing follow up article from Joe. Be sure to read through the comments afterward as well as he responds to many of them: Cramping My Style

That was a very interesting read Duck. Hamstring cramps are a serious issue for me in Marathons. I have run ten and cramped in five of them. Whether or not I cramp and how well I am able to handle the cramps when they come is the primary determining factor of whether or not I have a successful race.

Funny you should mention that, I have actually gotten hamstring cramps in 7 out of 8 marathons that I have finished. For the longest time I thought it was something missing in my training, but thanks to my recent (and ongoing) bout of ITBS my physical therapist discovered that I have a serious quadricep vs. hamstring imbalance. (quadriceps are much stronger than hamstrings). I am doing a lot of hamstring curls now (both with the machine, as well s the standing version with ankle weights). I am curious how this will translate to my hamstrings holding up in future marathons, although it's a long way down the road as I am starting back up again with a 1.5 mile run this afternoon to see how my recovery/rehab/therapy is coming along.

Dang, Steve, that's a pretty impressive percentage! I thought maybe if there was one thing I could be the best at in this thread it would be hamstring cramps, but once again I am put in my place!

My PT says my glutes are weak (which explains my weak-### efforts). I think I will inquire about my hamstrings next visit. Thanks for the tip.

Good luck on the comeback run.

 

[sho nuff]

Trying to keep up is he'd while traveling alone with two kids

Made the track on my own to Wisconsin with the two kids. Went pretty well. Hoping to get a good run in the morning before heading up to the lake for a couple days.

Sorry to hear about the ankle Ivan...like Koby O have killed my ankles numerous times. Hope the healing is quick.

 

[Annyong]

Got in 5 miles at 7:53 per starting at 10:30 tonight. Not that fastest run, but man I love running at night.

 

[prosopis]

I did my first Krav Maga class tonight and got my ### kicked. Prior to class I did 3. 5 miles, weights, and swam some. I am a hurting body right now and I think it will be worse tomorrow. I did the Krav Maga thing looking for a different cross training deal. I think I found it. There is something I like about getting beat up.

I do need to invest in a cup.

 

[tri-man 47]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

 

[Hang 10]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

Age group win! Nice!

 

[koby925]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

Nice job, Tri-Man. I love night races.

 

[prosopis]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

Nice - Age group win !!!

 

[prosopis]

I did my first Krav Maga class tonight and got my ### kicked. Prior to class I did 3. 5 miles, weights, and swam some. I am a hurting body right now and I think it will be worse tomorrow. I did the Krav Maga thing looking for a different cross training deal. I think I found it. There is something I like about getting beat up.

I do need to invest in a cup.

I am pretty sore this morning. I skipped my scheduled morning 6. It is really hot/humid here right now. I may go to the gym later and do the 6 on the treadmill. Like I say I am really sore so I am not sure.

 

[sho nuff]

Tri man killing it again.

For me, amazing how the flat roads of Appleton make a run feel so good.

6 smooth miles near my dad's house this morning before we head up to the cottage on a little lake north of here.

 

[beer 302]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

Well done medal monger! Nice race.

For all you bikers, went to the gym here at work today and the VP of IT is a big bike guy. Well his baby was parked in there so I snapped a pic for y'all. Had to move it to do something and holy jeez, I'm pretty sure my running shoe weighs more than that thing. Literally could lift it with 2 fingers. Had to throw my jun bike int he back of the truck after and it was all I could do to lift it up and over the fender into the bed. All electronic everything on that bad boy, pretty sweet ride.

 

[SteveC702]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

Nice - Age group win !!!

Very nice job Tri. Interesting to hear that they have apparently moved the venue since I ran it in 2007. (they used to have it in the west loop, about a mile away from where I lived in downtown). Although not surprisingly they still have poor course management as in the year I ran it they managed to cut the course short during the 2nd mile and everyone ended up running about 2.9 miles.

 

[tri-man 47]

For all you bikers, went to the gym here at work today and the VP of IT is a big bike guy. Well his baby was parked in there so I snapped a pic for y'all.

It moved.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Got in 5 miles at 7:53 per starting at 10:30 tonight. Not that fastest run, but man I love running at night.

Your postings often confuse me. I think for a beginner this is very fast. I would be thrilled with this time. This would have you running a 10k in under 50 minutes for sure(probably much faster but being conservative) and I thought you had a goal of like 52? Maybe I am mixing posters up. But you seem to ask a lot of questions that make you sound clueless about a lot of things, but then post things like running 5 miles at 7:53 as if it was some slow lumbering jog.

Not trying to be a jerk here, just making sure that you are measuring these runs properly and setting goals that actually make sense. If that was an easy training run for you, I think you need to set some new goals. If it was crazy hard and you were dying I think maybe ask yourself why did you run it that fast and what was the desired outcome. Absolutely nowhere near an expert, and if I have misunderstood the tone and purpose for this thread, my apolgies to all.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

Well done medal monger! Nice race.

Yeah, guy wins his age group and it's just a ho-hum experience. Some of us would love to win something just once!

 

[Juxtatarot]

Got in 5 miles at 7:53 per starting at 10:30 tonight. Not that fastest run, but man I love running at night.

Your postings often confuse me. I think for a beginner this is very fast. I would be thrilled with this time. This would have you running a 10k in under 50 minutes for sure(probably much faster but being conservative) and I thought you had a goal of like 52? Maybe I am mixing posters up. But you seem to ask a lot of questions that make you sound clueless about a lot of things, but then post things like running 5 miles at 7:53 as if it was some slow lumbering jog.

Not trying to be a jerk here, just making sure that you are measuring these runs properly and setting goals that actually make sense. If that was an easy training run for you, I think you need to set some new goals. If it was crazy hard and you were dying I think maybe ask yourself why did you run it that fast and what was the desired outcome. Absolutely nowhere near an expert, and if I have misunderstood the tone and purpose for this thread, my apolgies to all.

I sense that he has a lot of natural talent and is just scratching the surface of the paces he could achieve. As a relative beginner it's hard to set goals because he is improving so fast.

 

[worrierking]

Bastille Day 5K Race Report

An evening race along the Chicago lakefront that several coworkers and I ran:

20:41 (6:41/mile), 173 avg HR

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

In general, an uneventful race. It's a tough adjustment to run a 7:30 race after working all day (and driving an hour through traffic into the city). The race is not an overly competitive event, and I didn't feel like I ever really got into 'race' mode. I could tell early on that I didn't have my high gear working very well. What was kind of cool was that I spent most of the race generally grouped in a pack of younger somethings ...the old man representin'.

Mile 1: 6:31, 165 HR

Mile 2: 6:51, 175

Mile 3: 6:43, 179

Last .1: 6:14, 184

It was kind of odd at the start - about 1,000 runners (they also had a large 8K), but very few were aggressively toeing the line at the start. For such a large crowd, they did very little and very poor course management. Twice we had to cross through the main pack, which is of course rather awkward. All in all, a hard pace run as part of my distance training!

Wow, outstanding. Great job!

Tri and any of you other Chicago area guys. Is there a Chicago area marathon that you recommend any time in the spring? I will not be able to do the Illinois Marathon with my friends next April due to a conflict, but would love get up there sometime for a full.

 

[gruecd]

Tri and any of you other Chicago area guys. Is there a Chicago area marathon that you recommend any time in the spring? I will not be able to do the Illinois Marathon with my friends next April due to a conflict, but would love get up there sometime for a full.

It's a few hours further north, but the Cellcom Green Bay Marathon in May is honestly really nice. I ran my first-ever marathon at Green Bay in 2004, so I've already decided that I'll be running again next year to celebrate the 10-year anniversary.

 

[gruecd]

For me, amazing how the flat roads of Appleton make a run feel so good.

6 smooth miles near my dad's house this morning before we head up to the cottage on a little lake north of here.

You should've hit me up! I did an easy 5-miler this morning at 8:25 pace. Slower than Annyong, I might add.

 

[prosopis]

I HTFU up and went out for my 6 miles at 9:00 AM

90 degrees with a 60 dewpoint

6 miles @ 9:22 avg pace. I think I sweated a hundred gallons.

 

[beer 302]

For all you bikers, went to the gym here at work today and the VP of IT is a big bike guy. Well his baby was parked in there so I snapped a pic for y'all.

It moved.

Nice bike? I feel stupid knowing nothing about it other than it is lighter than my shoe.

Along those same lines, I forgot to post this earlier. My daughters 8th grade teacher is competing in the 2013 The Hague - Kijkduin ITU Cross Triathlon World Championships. I know nothing about nor understand any of what is involved other than the video I watched about it but it looks kick ###. Eric Hammond, follow on twitter @racerx29er. Pretty cool swimming in the North Sea. Really cool dude (other than being from MI), hope he does well.

 

[Annyong]

Got in 5 miles at 7:53 per starting at 10:30 tonight. Not that fastest run, but man I love running at night.

Your postings often confuse me. I think for a beginner this is very fast. I would be thrilled with this time. This would have you running a 10k in under 50 minutes for sure(probably much faster but being conservative) and I thought you had a goal of like 52? Maybe I am mixing posters up. But you seem to ask a lot of questions that make you sound clueless about a lot of things, but then post things like running 5 miles at 7:53 as if it was some slow lumbering jog.

Not trying to be a jerk here, just making sure that you are measuring these runs properly and setting goals that actually make sense. If that was an easy training run for you, I think you need to set some new goals. If it was crazy hard and you were dying I think maybe ask yourself why did you run it that fast and what was the desired outcome. Absolutely nowhere near an expert, and if I have misunderstood the tone and purpose for this thread, my apolgies to all.

As a relative beginner it's hard to set goals because he is improving so fast.

This is what I think is going on. I'm trying to soak up as much information as possible.

As for measuring my runs, I use my fancy new Garmin 110 watch, so I would assume its accurate, or at least I hope it is. My next race is my first 10k on 7/20, and I originally was hoping for a sub 52 or so, but as others have pointed out, I should easily beat that. My new goal is under 48

As for finding a pace, I really don't know what kind of pace I want when i set out for a run. I'm still building mileage and just set a distance and go. If I know I only have a mile or 2 left, I usually get on my horse and basically go as fast as I can. Almost every run has me winded at the end. I'm still trying to figure it all out, but I find it hard to not go all out at the end of a run. Prolly has something to do with my athletic history (basketball, baseball, football). Seeing my progress thus far has been fun and very rewarding for me.

 

[gruecd]

As for finding a pace, I really don't know what kind of pace I want when i set out for a run. I'm still building mileage and just set a distance and go. If I know I only have a mile or 2 left, I usually get on my horse and basically go as fast as I can. Almost every run has me winded at the end. I'm still trying to figure it all out, but I find it hard to not go all out at the end of a run. Prolly has something to do with my athletic history (basketball, baseball, football). Seeing my progress thus far has been fun and very rewarding for me.

I'm glad you're having fun, and it's good to see you making such rapid progress. Just know that every run should have a purpose. Sometimes it's working on your speed, sometimes it's improving your aerobic capacity, and sometimes it's just active recovery. It's not all about running as far as you can, as fast as you can.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Got in 5 miles at 7:53 per starting at 10:30 tonight. Not that fastest run, but man I love running at night.

Your postings often confuse me. I think for a beginner this is very fast. I would be thrilled with this time. This would have you running a 10k in under 50 minutes for sure(probably much faster but being conservative) and I thought you had a goal of like 52? Maybe I am mixing posters up. But you seem to ask a lot of questions that make you sound clueless about a lot of things, but then post things like running 5 miles at 7:53 as if it was some slow lumbering jog.

Not trying to be a jerk here, just making sure that you are measuring these runs properly and setting goals that actually make sense. If that was an easy training run for you, I think you need to set some new goals. If it was crazy hard and you were dying I think maybe ask yourself why did you run it that fast and what was the desired outcome. Absolutely nowhere near an expert, and if I have misunderstood the tone and purpose for this thread, my apolgies to all.

As a relative beginner it's hard to set goals because he is improving so fast.

This is what I think is going on. I'm trying to soak up as much information as possible.

As for measuring my runs, I use my fancy new Garmin 110 watch, so I would assume its accurate, or at least I hope it is. My next race is my first 10k on 7/20, and I originally was hoping for a sub 52 or so, but as others have pointed out, I should easily beat that. My new goal is under 48

As for finding a pace, I really don't know what kind of pace I want when i set out for a run. I'm still building mileage and just set a distance and go. If I know I only have a mile or 2 left, I usually get on my horse and basically go as fast as I can. Almost every run has me winded at the end. I'm still trying to figure it all out, but I find it hard to not go all out at the end of a run. Prolly has something to do with my athletic history (basketball, baseball, football). Seeing my progress thus far has been fun and very rewarding for me.

It should be. I would love to have that speed right off the bat.

 

[koby925]

I think I've talked about this kid before, but if not...the running group I ran with in PA, we had a 23 year old kid join us. Not far removed from college soccer. He had messed around and run just over 20 for a 5k and like a 42 min 10k. So he knew he had some natural talent but never really trained. He started running Saturdays and intervals with us (and it helped he lived down the street from one of the guys so they ran some other runs together). In the beginning, he's barely hanging on for decent (but not real fast) Saturday 8 milers and running with the guys who run 20-22 minute 5ks on the track. After a couple months, he's hanging on the 8 mile runs and dominating his interval group so he moves up groups. Long story, short, he keeps progressing and starts whupping all of us. After a good year of training he ran 16:52 5k, 37:00 10k and 1:18:40 Half. And this year I see he's run a 4:31 road mile and a 16:39 5k. Young legs and untapped talent...

Which brings me to...Annyong...you could be like this kid. I don't think you're quite that young but I think you're still fairly young and it seems you have untapped talent.

That said, the cautionary advice others have noted is spot on. If you keep progressing and enjoy it, I'd seriously consider getting with a running group or following training models so you are training with a purpose.

 

[Annyong]

I'm glad you're having fun, and it's good to see you making such rapid progress. Just know that every run should have a purpose. Sometimes it's working on your speed, sometimes it's improving your aerobic capacity, and sometimes it's just active recovery. It's not all about running as far as you can, as fast as you can.

Thanks, slowing down is something I'm struggling with for sure. I find myself looking at my watch and trying to beat my previous mile almost every mile I run. It's a mental struggle and I definitely need more structure. I'm going for my weekly "long" run tomorrow and ill try to not even look at the thing and just go nice and easy and hopefully get up to 14-15 miles. .

 

[2Young2BBald]

I'm glad you're having fun, and it's good to see you making such rapid progress. Just know that every run should have a purpose. Sometimes it's working on your speed, sometimes it's improving your aerobic capacity, and sometimes it's just active recovery. It's not all about running as far as you can, as fast as you can.

Thanks, slowing down is something I'm struggling with for sure. I find myself looking at my watch and trying to beat my previous mile almost every mile I run. It's a mental struggle and I definitely need more structure. I'm going for my weekly "long" run tomorrow and ill try to not even look at the thing and just go nice and easy and hopefully get up to 14-15 miles. .

I think the 110 has pace alarms, these work great for targeted pacing. Download the manual and don't rely on the 5 or 6 page quick start that came in the box, there is so much functionality in these watches.

eta, here is the 110 manual: http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/Forerunner110_OwnersManual.pdf

 

[Annyong]

I think I've talked about this kid before, but if not...the running group I ran with in PA, we had a 23 year old kid join us. Not far removed from college soccer. He had messed around and run just over 20 for a 5k and like a 42 min 10k. So he knew he had some natural talent but never really trained. He started running Saturdays and intervals with us (and it helped he lived down the street from one of the guys so they ran some other runs together). In the beginning, he's barely hanging on for decent (but not real fast) Saturday 8 milers and running with the guys who run 20-22 minute 5ks on the track. After a couple months, he's hanging on the 8 mile runs and dominating his interval group so he moves up groups. Long story, short, he keeps progressing and starts whupping all of us. After a good year of training he ran 16:52 5k, 37:00 10k and 1:18:40 Half. And this year I see he's run a 4:31 road mile and a 16:39 5k. Young legs and untapped talent...

Which brings me to...Annyong...you could be like this kid. I don't think you're quite that young but I think you're still fairly young and it seems you have untapped talent.

That said, the cautionary advice others have noted is spot on. If you keep progressing and enjoy it, I'd seriously consider getting with a running group or following training models so you are training with a purpose.

Whoa that's fast. I'm still young, but not quite that young, I will be turning 30 in Oct. My main issue at the moment is finding time to actually run (2 kids under 20months old), I'm usually working 6am to 6pm and my wife works irregular evening hours so it's hard to plan anything really. My most consistent runs are my beloved Saturday mornings when I can get out of the house before anyone is awake. A running group would be ideal but I don't think I can swing it at the moment.

Or, you know, I could quit making excuses and sack up.

 

[beer 302]

Or, you know, I could quit making excuses and sack up.

As I was told not too long ago, I believe the phrase you are looking for is HTFU

 

[IvanKaramazov]

1/24 AG; 38/969 overall

 

[tri-man 47]

I'm glad you're having fun, and it's good to see you making such rapid progress. Just know that every run should have a purpose. Sometimes it's working on your speed, sometimes it's improving your aerobic capacity, and sometimes it's just active recovery. It's not all about running as far as you can, as fast as you can.

Thanks, slowing down is something I'm struggling with for sure. I find myself looking at my watch and trying to beat my previous mile almost every mile I run. It's a mental struggle and I definitely need more structure. I'm going for my weekly "long" run tomorrow and ill try to not even look at the thing and just go nice and easy and hopefully get up to 14-15 miles. .

I use a slower breathing pattern (in/out every third step rather than every second step) for long runs primarily as a way to keep things slow. But you can do other things as a distraction. E.g., keep an eye out and count the number of flags you see, or observe other homes' landscaping. If you really get itchy, you could 'fartlek' run ...run two blocks slow, then one hard. I'm pretty sure that once you break the ice on this concept, it will become quite natural. Let us know!

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Congrats Tri-man!

Wow, I think i'm going to complain about the heat/humidity some more. We had a high of 77 today! Not a cloud in the sky, 70% humidity, 61 dew point, light breeze. I've lived in kentucky my entire life and can't remember a July day like this. I got in 5 miles + 27 holes of golf and some quality grilling.

 

[BassNBrew]

Congrats Tri-man.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I'm glad you're having fun, and it's good to see you making such rapid progress. Just know that every run should have a purpose. Sometimes it's working on your speed, sometimes it's improving your aerobic capacity, and sometimes it's just active recovery. It's not all about running as far as you can, as fast as you can.

Thanks, slowing down is something I'm struggling with for sure. I find myself looking at my watch and trying to beat my previous mile almost every mile I run. It's a mental struggle and I definitely need more structure. I'm going for my weekly "long" run tomorrow and ill try to not even look at the thing and just go nice and easy and hopefully get up to 14-15 miles. .

I use a slower breathing pattern (in/out every third step rather than every second step) for long runs primarily as a way to keep things slow. But you can do other things as a distraction. E.g., keep an eye out and count the number of flags you see, or observe other homes' landscaping. If you really get itchy, you could 'fartlek' run ...run two blocks slow, then one hard. I'm pretty sure that once you break the ice on this concept, it will become quite natural. Let us know!

Or go run some technical trails with lots of steep grades. That will slow you down.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Just to add insult to injury, had I not sprained my ankle and run todays 5K, I would have placed 2nd in my AG (2/17) if I had even come within 60 seconds of my goal time. This really sucks, because I don't get AG awards very often.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Too bad, Ivan. I was confident you were going to finish under 7:00 pace for this one too.

Worrierking: There are some spring marathons in Chicago but nothing that grand that would be worth a long trip, IMO. Sorry!

 

[Sand]

Just to add insult to injury, had I not sprained my ankle and run todays 5K, I would have placed 2nd in my AG (2/17) if I had even come within 60 seconds of my goal time. This really sucks, because I don't get AG awards very often.

Don't sweat the small stuff. 5ks are all over. That ankle can be a huge PITA if you reinjure it.

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On my end I'm officially fat. Woke up over 180 this morning. Despite that had a great ride. Set a slew of PRs and really hit one particular road hard and well and got myself way, way up in the standings - 5/195 holding 29.5mph for a mile and a half over relatively flat ground. I'll take that.

 

[tri-man 47]

On my end I'm officially fat fast. Set a slew of PRs and really hit one particular road hard and well and got myself way, way up in the standings - 5/195 holding 29.5mph for a mile and a half over relatively flat ground. I'll take that.

Fixed!

And Ivan, don't worry. You've always been #2 in our hearts.

 

[beer 302]

Or go run some technical trails with lots of steep grades. That will slow you down.

Works great, thought we about killed a new guy on the trails this morning doing that. Finally called Uncle and asked to walk.

And Ivan, don't worry. You've always been #2 in our hearts.

A SOLID #2 no less!

On my end I'm officially fat. Woke up over 180 this morning. Despite that had a great ride. Set a slew of PRs and really hit one particular road hard and well and got myself way, way up in the standings - 5/195 holding 29.5mph for a mile and a half over relatively flat ground. I'll take that.

I'll take fat if I can push 30mph, nice ride!