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Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)

BnB, today is the day! Western States Lottery Registration

Registration hasn't been open 9 hours yet as I write this and there are already almost 600 people signed up. This is for 220ish spots filled via the lottery, and those that have multiple entries (prior lottery losers) push the odds down even lower. With the elimination of 50 milers as qualifying races for 2015, I'd expect anyone that was on the fence about applying to do so (Gru?). So I'm guessing 3,500-4,000 entries, pushing the odds to get in down to around 5%.

So you're telling me there's a chance......
2201 as of this morning. Probably over 4k tickets in the bag as of now.

 
Results are in. New PR of 1:27:39. 16th overall out of 1408 (but only 495 males), 3rd out of 117 in division (but didn't stay for awards :kicksrock: ).

Temps in the 30s and kind of windy. I was freezing and shivering to start but it wasn't too bad after we started. I bought a pair of throw away gloves at Target yesterday but kept them on the whole time. This course is advertised as flat and fast but I overheard guys discussing this in the start corrals and how it would be harder. It was hard! They listed it as 108 feet ascending but my Garmin has it as 289 feet! I know that's not a lot for most of you but as a true flatlander it was tough! A lot of that uphill was during the last few miles making it even worse but more on that later. Cold steady wind of about 10 mph that seems to blow against me 3 out of the 4 directions.

Mile 1: 6:35/HR garbage data

Mile 2: 6:39/HR garbage data

Mile 3: 6:35/HR garbage data

I lined up only 2 or 3 rows back at the start so there was no congestion at the start. Big difference from the Army 10 Miler 3 weeks ago. There was the usually setting in period when people were passing a lot but things thinned out quickly. I settle in behind a group of 3 runners including one girl. I had started right next to her in the corral and I remember hoping she wouldn't move in front of me and slow me down since she was so tiny - like 5'3" or something with tiny, little feet but she was certainly moving fast.

Around the end of mile 2 I developed a painful side stitch. I rarely get these during training and never before in a race. I focus on my breathing (I thought I read that deep breaths from the diaphragm are supposed to help this) and it goes away after a painful half mile.

Mile 4: 6:35/HR 164

Mile 5: 6:31/163

Mile 6: 6:35/164

Still following the group of three although they a gaining distance from me. I notice the girl is getting a lot of encouragement from the crowd. "Go Amanda! Go Amanda!" She must have name on her bib or has a lot of friends. Looking at the results just awhile ago, I noticed that the female winner for the marathon (this was a joint marathon and half marathon that split during mile 9) was an Amanda at a time of 2:50! I learned my lesson about judging people at the start!

Mile 7: 6:31/165

Mile 8: 6:36/166

Mile 9: 6:36/166

I'm still feeling OK at this point. In fact, I wonder for a while if I'm getting a runner's high or a second wind because I'm the most comfortable I've felt. I'm maintaining my pace and my HR target was 165 so I'm doing fine there two. The group of 3 are out of sight at this point but I pass another runner. I then get passed. I was only passed by 2 people the second half of the race and this was one. A girl. As I'm running behind her I take a look: tall, skinny but with no hips -- built like a plank. I think "Gee, Jux, she has the exact same body as you. You should be able to hang with her!" But she's going too fast.

Mile 10: 6:42/164

Mile 11: 6:46/168

Mile 12: 6:47/171

Mile 13: 6:52/170

last .22 on Garmin: 6:06 pace/171

The marathon turn off was during mile 9 and at this point I'm all alone. Miles 10 through 12 were through a wooded bike path. The last 3 miles are the greatest uphill section and it was brutal. As well as I was feeling before, everything was hitting me like a ton of bricks. I haven't been training with a lot of miles and I quickly realize my endurance is shot. A guy passes me at mile 11 and he asks me about time and pace. He's running fast, though, like 20 seconds per mile faster than me. I notice he stops and starts walking at a water station and I catch up. He starts running and passes me again and has a big lead. Then he starts walking again and I catch up. I've never seen anyone start and stop like this! During mile 12 he passes again and must have ran all the end because I didn't see him again.

My PR average pace is 6:42. I know I have banked time on my splits but this course was measured correctly (shortest possible tangents) and the miles markers were further and further away from my Garmin miles. Ended up measuring 13.22 on the Garmin. I slowed during these miles and knew a PR was in jeopardy but I remember not caring. I was exhausted and knew I was doing the best I could. When I get to the point I can see the finish line I look at my time. It says 1:26. My Garmin settings don't show seconds after an hour but I think I have a PR (previous PR 1:27:46). A few seconds later, it's at 1:27. I estimate I have .10 or so miles left so I know I have to start booking. Speed it up and see the clock at the finish line clicking away in the 1:27:20s then 1:27:30s. Just made it around 1:27:40!
Sweet Jesus Alou that's fast! Awesome job Juxt.

 
Results are in. New PR of 1:27:39. 16th overall out of 1408 (but only 495 males), 3rd out of 117 in division (but didn't stay for awards :kicksrock: ).
Hella fast, Juxt! Way to go!!

Still gotcha by 38 seconds.. ;)
Speaking of times, by coincidence this came across today - Josh Beck (studly tri dude) runs a hilly marathon in 2:59...pushing a 120lb ALS patient. I think he got your PR by a few seconds. :P
But Clydesdales have to carry the extra 120 lbs on those big frames. ;)

 
I'm curious of you and the other speedsters, why you don't stick around to at least see preliminary results to see if you get podium. From time to time, I'll see posts of guys not sticking around for awards and I don't get it. You work your ### off to train, give it all you have racing, why wouldn't you stick around to be recognized? I am sure a half like you did yesterday, there are folks doing almost 3 hour 1/2s, but I doubt most events would wait for all finishers to hold awards. Personally, I tend to stick around most events for a while as my racing tends to be more social than anything else. We stuck around after BSing with other trail dorks by a fire pit they'd set up. And, of course, there were Bloody Marys for the adults. I'll have to see if they post pics of the event. Event though the feels like temp was near freezing, there was still some impressive, and snug, cold weather gear on display.
I see this as one of the big differences between road racing and trail races. At most trail races I've done finishers hang around afterward, socializing, rooting on others as they come in....and often drinking beer! Hell, the winners usually hang around to watch some of the final finishers - and in some cases we are talking many, many hours since they themselves crossed the line. It's not about the podium for most of these people, it's about enjoying the shared experience.

This isn't meant as an indictment of road racing, more of just another example of why I personally prefer the trail racing vibe.
It is a different mentality (vibe). As I might have described it before, trail races seem to be about the journey, while road races are about the destination.

 
I'm curious of you and the other speedsters, why you don't stick around to at least see preliminary results to see if you get podium. From time to time, I'll see posts of guys not sticking around for awards and I don't get it. You work your ### off to train, give it all you have racing, why wouldn't you stick around to be recognized? I am sure a half like you did yesterday, there are folks doing almost 3 hour 1/2s, but I doubt most events would wait for all finishers to hold awards. Personally, I tend to stick around most events for a while as my racing tends to be more social than anything else. We stuck around after BSing with other trail dorks by a fire pit they'd set up. And, of course, there were Bloody Marys for the adults. I'll have to see if they post pics of the event. Event though the feels like temp was near freezing, there was still some impressive, and snug, cold weather gear on display.
I see this as one of the big differences between road racing and trail races. At most trail races I've done finishers hang around afterward, socializing, rooting on others as they come in....and often drinking beer! Hell, the winners usually hang around to watch some of the final finishers - and in some cases we are talking many, many hours since they themselves crossed the line. It's not about the podium for most of these people, it's about enjoying the shared experience.

This isn't meant as an indictment of road racing, more of just another example of why I personally prefer the trail racing vibe.
It is a different mentality (vibe). As I might have described it before, trail races seem to be about the journey, while road races are about the destination.
Tri-man sums it up nicely although I see some of the bigger road events trying to emulate something similar by keeping participants after just to socialize.

I'm with the Duck, I like the vibe much more after a trail race, just a lot more relaxed, laid back atmosphere. This from a guy whose closest brush with a podium would be when they are loading it back on the truck and need a hand ;)

 
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I'm curious of you and the other speedsters, why you don't stick around to at least see preliminary results to see if you get podium. From time to time, I'll see posts of guys not sticking around for awards and I don't get it. You work your ### off to train, give it all you have racing, why wouldn't you stick around to be recognized? I am sure a half like you did yesterday, there are folks doing almost 3 hour 1/2s, but I doubt most events would wait for all finishers to hold awards. Personally, I tend to stick around most events for a while as my racing tends to be more social than anything else. We stuck around after BSing with other trail dorks by a fire pit they'd set up. And, of course, there were Bloody Marys for the adults. I'll have to see if they post pics of the event. Event though the feels like temp was near freezing, there was still some impressive, and snug, cold weather gear on display.
I see this as one of the big differences between road racing and trail races. At most trail races I've done finishers hang around afterward, socializing, rooting on others as they come in....and often drinking beer! Hell, the winners usually hang around to watch some of the final finishers - and in some cases we are talking many, many hours since they themselves crossed the line. It's not about the podium for most of these people, it's about enjoying the shared experience.

This isn't meant as an indictment of road racing, more of just another example of why I personally prefer the trail racing vibe.
Agreed. Just one more reason why I don't intend to run another road marathon any time soon. Triathlons are much the same in this way as trail races.

 
I'm curious of you and the other speedsters, why you don't stick around to at least see preliminary results to see if you get podium. From time to time, I'll see posts of guys not sticking around for awards and I don't get it. You work your ### off to train, give it all you have racing, why wouldn't you stick around to be recognized? I am sure a half like you did yesterday, there are folks doing almost 3 hour 1/2s, but I doubt most events would wait for all finishers to hold awards. Personally, I tend to stick around most events for a while as my racing tends to be more social than anything else. We stuck around after BSing with other trail dorks by a fire pit they'd set up. And, of course, there were Bloody Marys for the adults. I'll have to see if they post pics of the event. Event though the feels like temp was near freezing, there was still some impressive, and snug, cold weather gear on display.
I see this as one of the big differences between road racing and trail races. At most trail races I've done finishers hang around afterward, socializing, rooting on others as they come in....and often drinking beer! Hell, the winners usually hang around to watch some of the final finishers - and in some cases we are talking many, many hours since they themselves crossed the line. It's not about the podium for most of these people, it's about enjoying the shared experience.

This isn't meant as an indictment of road racing, more of just another example of why I personally prefer the trail racing vibe.
Agreed. Just one more reason why I don't intend to run another road marathon any time soon. Triathlons are much the same in this way as trail races.
Not the tris around here. Most triathletes are pretty big douches...second only to roadies (bike). The pointy head of the age groups is much more competitive than road racing. Kona is much harder to obtain than Boston. You have much more cheating in tris than road racing too.

 
Ah, the magic of tapering is kicking in again. Last weekend I got my butt handed to me in a local 5K by a college student that doesn't even run for his school's team. (course was actually only 3.03 miles long based on my garmin, and I came through 3 miles in 16:40)

Yesterday I did my usual half-marathon tune-up workout: 3 mile tempo with the first 2.5 @ HM effort and then progressing down to 5K effort. Result: 5:33-5:29-5:21. (16:23). Wish I had just a little bit of that 3 days earlier, as I lost that "5K" by about a second. Most online calculators and a NCAA altitude conversion table gave me about a 12-13s/mi conversion for that run, making it unofficially the fastest pre-HM tune-up I have ever run. I guess I'll find out in a few days how honest I was with myself when I said it was at HM effort.

 
SteveC702 said:
Ah, the magic of tapering is kicking in again. Last weekend I got my butt handed to me in a local 5K by a college student that doesn't even run for his school's team. (course was actually only 3.03 miles long based on my garmin, and I came through 3 miles in 16:40)

Yesterday I did my usual half-marathon tune-up workout: 3 mile tempo with the first 2.5 @ HM effort and then progressing down to 5K effort. Result: 5:33-5:29-5:21. (16:23). Wish I had just a little bit of that 3 days earlier, as I lost that "5K" by about a second. Most online calculators and a NCAA altitude conversion table gave me about a 12-13s/mi conversion for that run, making it unofficially the fastest pre-HM tune-up I have ever run. I guess I'll find out in a few days how honest I was with myself when I said it was at HM effort.
1:12 half marathon. Giddy up.

 
BnB, today is the day! Western States Lottery Registration

Registration hasn't been open 9 hours yet as I write this and there are already almost 600 people signed up. This is for 220ish spots filled via the lottery, and those that have multiple entries (prior lottery losers) push the odds down even lower. With the elimination of 50 milers as qualifying races for 2015, I'd expect anyone that was on the fence about applying to do so (Gru?). So I'm guessing 3,500-4,000 entries, pushing the odds to get in down to around 5%.

So you're telling me there's a chance......
2201 as of this morning. Probably over 4k tickets in the bag as of now.
2,414 now, already surpassing last year's 2,295 with three+ days left. I'd expect a continued trickle with a spike on Saturday to push it beyond 3,000, but hopefully I was aggressive in my 3,500-4,000 guess.

But yes, many more tickets than that in the hat already. Scott Dunlap is currently a nine-time lottery loser!

That's the downside of the huge growth in popularity of trail ultras - the three races I most want to do in the first half of next year (Way Too Cool 50K, Miwok 100K, WS100) all have lotteries. Throw in another lottery with Tahoe Rim Trail 100 (which opens hours after the WS100 lottery ends, not coincidentally), and I have no ####### clue what my race schedule will look like next year.

 
Great job, Jux! Nice writeup and great pacing. Way to tough it out the last few uphill miles.
Ditto this comment.

So are we having a Jux v. Gru show down in Boston this year?
No, I'm skipping a spring marathon. Maybe a half marathon showdown, though.
I suggest it be a Trail 1/2 Thread Cornhole: http://www.trailmarathon.com/
Even though I'm a trails virgin (assuming my area's limestone trails don't count), this looks like a good idea.

 
Great job, Jux! Nice writeup and great pacing. Way to tough it out the last few uphill miles.
Ditto this comment.

So are we having a Jux v. Gru show down in Boston this year?
No, I'm skipping a spring marathon. Maybe a half marathon showdown, though.
I suggest it be a Trail 1/2 Thread Cornhole: http://www.trailmarathon.com/
Even though I'm a trails virgin (assuming my area's limestone trails don't count), this looks like a good idea.
Limestone trails are like the soft drugs of trails, or gateway trails. Keep at it and you'll want more, and you'll soon be moving on to more hardcore ones.

 
Wow I've missed a lot of great running in here. Maybe next year I won't feel embarrased to post my times.

Anyways, ran on a treadmill for the first time since last winter and it's horrible. Worst run I think I've had all year. Was just miserable. Strange considering i was mainly a treadmill guy before I joined this thread and finally ran outside like you guys told me to.

 
First off, awesome race Jux! One day I hope to be fast like you, buddy.

But yeah, I've sorta stayed away from here past couple days. I'm pretty burnt out and now it appears I'm injured. Don't know how bad it is yet because I'm not really sure what is wrong. But my left leg is in much worse shape it was the first time I complained about it here.

OBX Half Marathon

I ended up running that half marathon anyways and I'm probably going to sound like a ##### complaining about my race because I still PR'd but I was far from satisfied. Mostly due to my quad issues and not knowing when I can get back to training. My goal was to break 1:30 and due to my health and conditions it probably wasn't realistic. But I bought a thigh compression sleeve and sucked it up and gave it my best effort.

Course was a SW route and we had WSW winds at 17mph. For the first 8 miles I hung pretty tough and was on pace.

1 - 6:46

2 - 6:52

3 - 6:49

4 - 6:43 (I almost decided to DNF right here as I thought there was noway my leg was going hold up for 9 more miles but couldn't justify quitting still running this fast)

5 - 6:49

6 - 6:49

7 - 6:46

8 - 6:53

The course takes a hard turn dead to the west and the wind was a straight gut punch. The course also goes uphill with a large bridge...there's no protection and the field had spread out enough where there was also no drafting. I was on an island by myself. Also leg is going numb at this point.

9 - 7:19

10 - 7:41

11 - 7:27

12 - 7:22

Last mile we turn out of the wind and I try to pick it back up but not much juice left.

13 - 6:59

.1 - 6:48 pace

Total finish time 1:32:25. 4/126 in men 35-39 and 47/2717 overall.

Hard to say if I was capable of 1:29 had I been 100% with those conditions. Guess it doesn't really matter. Anyways, I'm definitely in a funk and just want to be healthy. My 50K is going to be right around the corner, so it is killing me to take any time off even though I'm sure I need to. Rest...ugh...I hate that word.

 
Strange considering i was mainly a treadmill guy before I joined this thread and finally ran outside like you guys told me to.
Oh yeah, blame us! (We're doing you a favor - treadmills are the devil.)

Hang10 - sounds like a bit of rest is what will make you faster. If you had problems with a HM, the 50k with a nagging injury will suck hard. Still a smokin' time.

 
Results are in. New PR of 1:27:39. 16th overall out of 1408 (but only 495 males), 3rd out of 117 in division (but didn't stay for awards :kicksrock: ).

Mile 1: 6:35/HR garbage data

Mile 2: 6:39/HR garbage data

Mile 3: 6:35/HR garbage data

Mile 4: 6:35/HR 164

Mile 5: 6:31/163

Mile 6: 6:35/164

Mile 7: 6:31/165

Mile 8: 6:36/166

Mile 9: 6:36/166

Mile 10: 6:42/164

Mile 11: 6:46/168

Mile 12: 6:47/171

Mile 13: 6:52/170

last .22 on Garmin: 6:06 pace/171
Juxt. Fantastic! :clap: :headbang: :clap: Great pacing, and great job of gutting it out through the final miles. Congrats on the PR! 16th overall is very impressive, as is the AG placing for such a large group.
:goodposting:

Beautifully paced, Juxt! :hifive:

 
Oh boohoo, Hang10. It can't be that bad if you PR'ed anyway. ;)

Hope you can recover quick. When's the 50K?

 
Been off work all week for my annual hunting time, which has sucked ### this year. I'm convinced the deer gods are making me pay the price for last year's success.

Running has been good. Did my dress rehearsal 7 w/ 2MP on Tue (MP @ 7:31/163 - too fast?) and a smooth 5mi recovery yesterday (9:23/131). I have a DT massage set for lunch time today, and then 1 more quick shake out run tomorrow.

Weather forecast is a tad on the warm side, but overcast. Saturday night lows in the upper 40s, with cloudy skies and low 60s for Sunday's high. Hoping those 40s hang on for a while with the cloud cover. Like grue, I run hot. I'd rather it be in the 30s.

Plan is to start out around a 7:40ish pace and see how it feels. I'm going for broke on this one. If the HR is low for that pace, I'll pick it up(165ish HR is my sweet spot for the first half of the race). Hoping the hills I've incorporated in my LRs will help me for the hilly miles @ 19-20.

comfortably numb doesn't post here any more, but he's been training for the full and will be making his marathon debut on Sunday. My sister is running the half, so we have a lot going on. Can't wait!

If anyone wants to follow us - I'm #1972, CN is #11094. http://xacte.com/msg/signup.php?eid=188

 
Great Job Hang. Good luck with the recovery. Go get 'em Ned. The deer and the PR.

Lows were in the mid 30s the last two mornings and it was like I was a new runner. God I am so much faster and more efficient at these temperatures. Yesterday I ran 10 with 6.5 @ HMP (8:12, quit laughing). Today eight more easy @ 10:05. Both days I would have kept running since I felt so good, but I had to go to work. Dang employment!

 
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I fully understand being disappointed with a PR, Hang 10. Great job toughing it out, though. You are certainly capable of sub 1:30 but have had bad luck with the weather this summer and the injury and wind this time. (And I think you would best my PR if all the stars alligned perfectly for you.)

Steve, is your half marathon this weekend or next?

 
Good luck on the races, Steve and Ned.

Hang10, now you have a number out there that is better but you know you can lower even more for next race. Nice job toughing it out.

 
Great job, Jux! Nice writeup and great pacing. Way to tough it out the last few uphill miles.
Ditto this comment.

So are we having a Jux v. Gru show down in Boston this year?
No, I'm skipping a spring marathon. Maybe a half marathon showdown, though.
I suggest it be a Trail 1/2 Thread Cornhole: http://www.trailmarathon.com/
Intriguing...but that's only five days post-Boston, and it's a 6-1/2 hour drive.
 
Met up with a buddy and his friend last night for our running club's monthly "fun run." Plan was to run it nice and easy, and we started off that way (first mile 8:12), but as you might expect, it became an impromptu progression run as we started to push:

8:12

7:55

7:39

7:23

7:11

7:00

Hip flexor is almost back to normal, which means I'm almost 100% healthy for the first time in seemingly forever. Trying to work the mileage back up towards 50 MPH with a 15-mile long run so that I'm ready to start Boston training in another month or so.

 
When looking at the race results from my half marathon last Sunday, one of the things that surprised me was the really low male to female ratio. Only 495 males out of 1,409 finishers, or 35%. I've noticed before that half marathons seem to draw more women but I was surprised with the magnitude of this race that way. Analyzing my athlinks page, I noticed my marathons have trended slightly male, 5Ks slightly female and half marathons heavily female.

Why is this?

Just curious, is trail running and ultras heavily male?

 
When looking at the race results from my half marathon last Sunday, one of the things that surprised me was the really low male to female ratio. Only 495 males out of 1,409 finishers, or 35%. I've noticed before that half marathons seem to draw more women but I was surprised with the magnitude of this race that way. Analyzing my athlinks page, I noticed my marathons have trended slightly male, 5Ks slightly female and half marathons heavily female.

Why is this?

Just curious, is trail running and ultras heavily male?
I noticed this on the last 1/2 I ran. I wish someone would have told me this 10 years ago:

Women to guy ratio out of this world + women dressed scantily in form fitting running gear = :thumbup:

 
When looking at the race results from my half marathon last Sunday, one of the things that surprised me was the really low male to female ratio. Only 495 males out of 1,409 finishers, or 35%. I've noticed before that half marathons seem to draw more women but I was surprised with the magnitude of this race that way. Analyzing my athlinks page, I noticed my marathons have trended slightly male, 5Ks slightly female and half marathons heavily female.

Why is this?

Just curious, is trail running and ultras heavily male?
I noticed this on the last 1/2 I ran. I wish someone would have told me this 10 years ago:

Women to guy ratio out of this world + women dressed scantily in form fitting running gear = :thumbup:
Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

BTW, in general the trend of women to wear Lululemon pants is just freakin' awesome. I :heart: that company.

 
When looking at the race results from my half marathon last Sunday, one of the things that surprised me was the really low male to female ratio. Only 495 males out of 1,409 finishers, or 35%. I've noticed before that half marathons seem to draw more women but I was surprised with the magnitude of this race that way. Analyzing my athlinks page, I noticed my marathons have trended slightly male, 5Ks slightly female and half marathons heavily female.

Why is this?

Just curious, is trail running and ultras heavily male?
I noticed this on the last 1/2 I ran. I wish someone would have told me this 10 years ago:

Women to guy ratio out of this world + women dressed scantily in form fitting running gear = :thumbup:
Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

BTW, in general the trend of women to wear Lululemon pants is just freakin' awesome. I :heart: that company.
This is one disadvantage of being "fast". Women up front normally aren't all that great to look at.

 
Disney Half Marathon was last saturday for me. It was lots of fun. Don't think I would run it again though, unless my wife decided she really wanted to do it. Don't really like having to be at a race over 2 hours before it starts. It was cool to run through the parks, but I think that this maybe accounted for 4-5 miles out of 13.1. Lots of costumes and tons of music. Would have really liked to have my wife and son be able to cheer us on in a couple spots, but not really a big deal. Just enjoyed running with my sister.

Time was 2:05:29 which is technically a PR for me since it was my first half marathon. Definitely feel I have sub two hours in me as we didnt really push that hard and we spent the whole day at the parks beforehand walking for miles and miles. Being on our feet for 2.5 hours before the race waiting in line for my sister to get character pics was kinda rough too. Took me until about the third mile to not feel super tight.

I run with a nathan backpack for long runs and I forgot the damn bladder so I had to stop at the water stops which would have driven me nuts if we were trying for a time goal, so I was very happy we made the decision to just enjoy the race.

Shirt is super cool and the medal we all got is huge. The starting line was a ton of fun as they let off fireworks for every corral.

 

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