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Sand
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Well, I managed to do something stupid tonight.
Coming down the stairs too quick...about 5 steps from the bottom I hit basically on the side of my foot really tweaking my ankle.
Thought I was going to look down and see a bone sticking out it hurt so bad.
Been throbbing for a bit, iced it some...some nice swelling.
We will see how this one turns out in the morning...yippee.
Coming down the stairs too quick...about 5 steps from the bottom I hit basically on the side of my foot really tweaking my ankle.
Thought I was going to look down and see a bone sticking out it hurt so bad.
Been throbbing for a bit, iced it some...some nice swelling.
We will see how this one turns out in the morning...yippee.
Sand
Footballguy
As someone who has a massive database of personal ankle injuries - don't freak out. More than likely it will work itself out. You may be in for some stiffness and a bit of swelling, but most of the time these things aren't that serious.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Yeah, it doesn't seem to be an injury ...maybe arthritis, as sho nuff suggests. Hopefully, though, just a little cycle of stiffness that'll pass.sho nuff said:I get that too (though, mine do bug me from time to time during and right after running).jb1020 said:
Got checked out, scanned, xrayed and all that. Turns out my joints look great, but have a mild case of arthritis (thanks Mom and Grandpa)
sho nuff
Footballguy
Oh, I have a huge database of them as well.
And usually this particular ankle.
Its a pain in the rear for sure.
Compounded by being a bit sore from lifting legs today after intervals yesterday.
beer 302
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Id call you a sissy...but you are too damn fast.
Just playing...I basically live with a chronic sinus condition that has me in "sinus infection" mode all the time.
2 surgeries in back to back years about 5 years ago, maybe 6. Probably will have another this spring after my next half.
Ned
Footballguy
what the hell
jb1020
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Funny enough I don't wear sandals because I hate that damn thing in between my toes. But I love these things. Use them every run.
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Small update - 5 mile tempo today. GAP was 7:43/mi. Really not too bad considering this is the 7th straight day of some pretty hard work.
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Sand
Footballguy
I'm not a slave to it, but do look at it. Today for example, I looked at it at the halfway point, noted my pace and my HR, and decided that it must be a tempo day. Most normal people decide beforehand.
So, basically, ignore everything I've said and listen to Ned when he pops on. I'm sure his notification bot has the big red light flashing about now.
2Young2BBald
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I like what it "tells" me when I need info and, I love looking at the data over time (comparing like distances, etc) on Garmin Connect. For trail running, pace really means nothing and the terrain and distance dictates the effort you can put forth. Spiking HR, or an HR too low can give you something to work with.Sand said:
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Looks like Red Frog (the Warrior Dash guys) have come up with another money grab called the Hot Cocoa Classic 1/2 Marathon. I'd want to avoid this like the plague, but there are two things that are making it a bit attractive. First, it runs a few parts of Detroit I really like and would like to run and Second, I am in desperate need of run motivation NOW and this goes off on 4/6. The hoodie, hat and post race fondue make me want to :X but it just might be worth it as there are ZERO races close to this location and distance that compare. And, of course, I'd be praying for 70+ degrees as this screams chick event.
beer 302
Footballguy
I just got mine in December and have been trying to run by that rather than pace for most of my runs. I'm training for a long race so pace isn't quite as important which is giving me the opportunity to play with it and see what benefits I can get out of it. You should try to establish a max HR as soon as possible which will allow you to put together a training plan and understand the data you are generating. There is a great section in Advanced Marathoning by Pfitzinger that has the best explanation of seen of how to train by HR.ChiefD said:
That said, I don't wear it on trails around here because it's pretty worthless data. It's all up-down, stop-start stuff so HR is all over the place. I run by pace on the trails trying to hit a specific time for a loop.
Sand
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I'd typically agree with you, but these days 50 degree weather brings out the sheer tights rather than the shorts. Those things are awesome.
I must be doing trails wrong - my HR is pretty consistent while running those.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Juxt and I are eyeing a lakefront HM here in Chi-town on 4/6 in case you're feeling like a road trip. Rumor is that Juxt might actually, you know, finish the race this year.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
We'll see. For a short while here, to Juxt a race meant something. I haven't heard that term in a while. I have a reputation to uphold.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I have a couple pairs, wore some today on my run. I prefer DryMax socks, but for anyone with between-toes blister issues these things are awesome. That being said, I must have extra-short little toes because they tend to bunch up there a bit on me.By-product of blister problems before I got the shoe size dialed in. Provides me with one less thing to have to worry about when I run, they are security blankets for my feets now
I use it exactly the opposite way - I forget pace completely because of all of the up-down, stop-start stuff and focus on maintaining even effort/HR.
Lunchtime 6.5 miles today with about 1,100' of elevation. The ridiculously beautiful weather here continues. And yet I'm praying for rain as we're in the midst of the worst drought in recorded history for this area. We get an annual average rainfall of 52"-55" depending where in Marin it's measured, and for the last 13 months we're stuck at 11".
tri-man 47
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
On the other side of the coin, I don't know how you southern guys do it in summer. Always can do things to get warmer, only so much you can do in the summer! 3 pairs of socks, under armor cold gear head to toe (including hood), running pants (I stop wearing shorts < 30), tech shirt, sweatshirt that zips to the neck, browns winter hat, and those thick thinsulate gloves with the fingers exposed option/flap. I was disappointed when I got done I didn't have a good ice beard. Most of it got stuck in my eye brows + lashes, a little bit in the mustache area, none in the beard though - so, no picture.
It had dropped to 7 by the time I got to run yesterday. 4" of snow, not many drifts over a foot though, MUCH icier than usual though. Had to reset my footing frequently. 4 miles, 40 minutes. I have an outside shot of hitting a 100 mile month in January, given these conditions I'm very happy about it. Ultimately, given the long range forecast, I think I'll fall short as my long run this weekend's probably going to get scrapped on account of a foot plus of snow expected and we are expecting high's below 0 a couple of days next week, but even if I'm in the 90-95 range I'll get to next week happy.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I've pretty much decided that low 20s (and without strong winds) is the coldest I'll run in. And since it's been a terribly cold Chicago winter, I've only ran outside twice so far this year.
In an 8 mile treadmill run yesterday I included 1.5 miles at 5K PR pace (6:00). My heart rate got up to 171 which is only 95% of max. Still quite exhausting though. It made me think of the guys in this thread that are trying to figure out their max for HR training. It is so hard to will the mind and body to get to the max. Like others have written, unless you're at the near puke point, you're not at your max.
In an 8 mile treadmill run yesterday I included 1.5 miles at 5K PR pace (6:00). My heart rate got up to 171 which is only 95% of max. Still quite exhausting though. It made me think of the guys in this thread that are trying to figure out their max for HR training. It is so hard to will the mind and body to get to the max. Like others have written, unless you're at the near puke point, you're not at your max.
gruecd
Footballguy
Why? Anything above zero is pretty bearable (when dressed properly) as long as the wind isn't too crazy.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
Went out last night after work. It was 11 here in KC. Wasn't too bad: just had running pants, a couple of light layers, gloves, and wore a stocking cap with a mask that drops down. Shed the gloves after about 2 miles. Did a 40 minute tempo run, so ended about 4.5 miles.
It was cold, I won't lie. But felt pretty dang good.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I agree with you about zero being sort of a natural cutoff in terms of being able to run comfortably. The issue for me is that I just don't like having to bundle up and then wash 27 layers of clothes just for a routine 5-miler. It's less all-around hassle to bang those out on a treadmill or indoor track.Why? Anything above zero is pretty bearable (when dressed properly) as long as the wind isn't too crazy.
beer 302
Footballguy
That's pretty much my line of demarcation as well. Luckily, Souf Carolina only has a few days where that applies. Unfortunately, we've had a fairly elongated cold snap this winter and more than our fair share of 20ish days. Treadmill day for me with a winds at 11mph and windchill around 11°.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I don't have the treadmill hatred that most others here have. In fact, it's kind of nice to be able to work up a good sweat in the winter.Why? Anything above zero is pretty bearable (when dressed properly) as long as the wind isn't too crazy.
Prince Myshkin
Footballguy
I was just coming here to post how this weather has made me lazy! I absolutely HATE the treadmill. Plus, we have it in the loft at our house and I end up banging my head about 3-5 times per mile.
It is 2 outside currently with a light wind and about 6 inches of snow on the ground. It's not the temps so much as the footing that is keeping me inside though. It is tough to walk out there without falling.
It is 2 outside currently with a light wind and about 6 inches of snow on the ground. It's not the temps so much as the footing that is keeping me inside though. It is tough to walk out there without falling.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Funny, I've been to South Carolina one time - Greenville, in early 2009 - and as it was about 5 degrees with a wind chill that put it in negatives, it remains the last treadmill run I've done.
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
That's because it's not natural. I don't care what anyone says; treadmills #### with your biomechanics.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Yeah, I can bundle against the cold and even tolerate the wind ...but the hidden ice-under-snow is what deters me the most.
Brony
Footballguy
I can do down to zero, and the temperature doesn't bother me that much (I'lll wear one of those bakalavas (not the greek dessert), but the snow and wind makes for icy conditions and everytime I get going, I have to slow down to make sure I don't slip. Seeing as I usually run in the morning when it's dark... well, it just sucks. I do run on weekends and walk on the treadmill during the week.
Brony
Footballguy
Just got a new pair of Hokas and they are awesome. Anyone dealing with injuries should give them a try. I did my first run in the them with dead legs after two previous days of two hours running each. Plan to go 4-6 miles but my legs felt so rejuvenated that I did r 9+ miles or two hours. Ran in them last night on the road after a very hard bike ride earlier in the day and felt great afterwards.
7+ hours of running and 2.25 hrs of bkining over the last seven days. That equates to roughly 65-70 mile week for most in here or 90+ for Steve.
7+ hours of running and 2.25 hrs of bkining over the last seven days. That equates to roughly 65-70 mile week for most in here or 90+ for Steve.
spreagle
Footballguy
On the treadmill today I looked down at my feet, I thought my foot placement was arrow-straight from pushoff to landing, but on pushoff the toes on each foot actually swing to the outside a little bit (right at pushoff when they are in the air) then arc back to land straight. So each leg is going though a twist with each step. Seems like I am wasting energy with this arc. I tried focusing on a few things to straighten it out, and some things worked, but nothing felt natural. Tightening up my groin muscles, as uncomfortable as that sounds, seemed to work the best, but there is no way I could sustain that for very long. Any way to fix this, like a different shoe or something, or perhaps various hip exercises, or should I just ignore it?
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I'm about to buy my third pair, I love 'em. They're especially useful for fat guys like me who go up and down a lot of hills. Which model did you get? I have had the Stinson EVO, but will probably try on a couple of different models this time.
I do mix in my Cascadia 7s once a week or so just to keep myself from being too used to running on pillows and change things up a bit.
I hear that there are several Hoka-like models coming out from other shoe companies this year. Funny how quickly trends change.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
One time being fitted for shoes, I ran on one of those video recorded treadmills. I noticed that I run slightly pigeon-toed with my right foot. Left foot lands fine. I almost couldn't bear watching. It looked horrifying! When I pointed this out, the woman fitting me told me not to worry about it. The body will often natually adjust to the quickest, most efficient way from point A to point B. I think one of my legs is slightly longer that the other and my left hip is more flexible than my right. Maybe my body is compensating due to one of those reasons.
I recommend to ignore it -- particularly if you aren't have injury problems.
MAC_32
Footballguy
If I still personal trained at a gym with an indoor track I'd do more speed work in there on days like today. However, I'm too cheap...err, frugal to buy a membership now that I just do house calls and appointments in the park. I like running in difficult elements like this from time to time, it presents a unique challenge, a break from the usual routine, keeping my mind fresher. I think I benefit in the long run from it.IvanKaramazov said:I agree with you about zero being sort of a natural cutoff in terms of being able to run comfortably. The issue for me is that I just don't like having to bundle up and then wash 27 layers of clothes just for a routine 5-miler. It's less all-around hassle to bang those out on a treadmill or indoor track.gruecd said:Why? Anything above zero is pretty bearable (when dressed properly) as long as the wind isn't too crazy.Juxtatarot said:
spreagle
Footballguy
I looked at the bottom of my shoes and they are a little bit more worn on the outside edge, makes sense since I have high arches and that is where my weight is. I think the wear on the shoes is causing this. So its either (1) take a belt sander to my shoes or (2) get a new pair. I'm due for the latter.
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