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Ran a 10k in June (10 Viewers)

BnB - you still doing BSG? Signups are Saturday.
Hell Yeah! 8 am sharp. Will be sold out in a couple of minutes.

I've got more in the tank than last year's result. Stretch goal is to ride the first 30 miles with you.

 
Sorry to hear the news Grue. Best of luck and good thoughts to you for when the recovery begins.

I have not been in here in a long time. Took some time off from training/running. Actually the main reason i ran was to stay in shape to ref college and club soccer. I officially retired my reffing shoes this past summer and got way more involved with my kids activities. Mostly baseball. Anyway, i stopped running. About a month ago i got on scale and saw my weight. So, i am taking baby steps back to training. I have been walking the past month. 1.5 miles in the morning and 1.5 in the evening when i get home from work. My goal is to start running a bit when it gets a little warmer. So, maybe another month of just walking and then back to running. I am hoping to get some 5K's under my belt in March April etc. and then a half in October probably.

Just thought i would check in. Keep rocking the good work folks.

 
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Back from the doctor, and not the results that I wanted to hear... :sad:

Partial superior labral tear and some hip impingement, so basically I either get surgery to fix the labrum and shave off the extra bone, or else I risk long-term damage to the joint (i.e., needing hip replacement at 50 years old). It's minimally invasive surgery (usually arthoscopic), but it would mean a month on crutches and then probably another couple of months no running after that.

Seriously depressed right now. I feel like crying. :cry:
sorry.

at least now you know. at 2Y2B put it best, this is a small bump in the road although it feels large right now. You'll come back better than ever after getting some well deserved rest.

No running... so is this the time you'll finally swim consistently?
Maybe. And probably lots of hours on the bike trainer, which to me is almost worse than the treadmill....

Sounds like it's gonna take a while to get an appointment with the dude in Minneapolis, who's supposedly one of the best, but from what everyone says, it's worth the wait. Found a very helpful Facebook group and connected with a couple of people who had him do the same surgery, and they said that he's gonna recommend a few months of PT first. She also said that this particular doc was OK with her racing through the pain last summer and putting off surgery until fall; apparently to some degree, a tear is a tear. Gives me something to think about with Boston, I guess.

 
Both Tuesday and today found me on a treadmill next to the king of New Years resolutionists. Big guy with probably 70-80 lbs to lose, walking with the incline jacked up. No problem. Except that he stops and starts. Constantly. Stops to take a drink of water. Stops to wipe his brow. Stops to screw around with his phone. Stops to fiddle with the incline/pace. Stops because he was getting too far back on the belt. Etc.

Today, for something to occupy my mind during a boring recovery run, I actually counted the number of little micro-stops the guy did where he puts his feet on the side of the machine while the belt continues to run under him. The final tally by the time I finished up was 46 stops over 2.85 miles (edit: actually, this is probably too charitable). I'm guessing he actually walked about a mile and a half, with the treadmill soloing the remainder. When I passed by that area after showering/changing he was still doing the same thing (just straddling the belt while the machine racked up mileage).

Not sure why this sort of thing gets on my nerves so much. This guy ranks right up there in terms of annoyance factor as my two other favorites: I Have The Pace Too High Making Me Constantly About To Fly Off The Back Guy and I Grasp Onto The Handlebars For Dear Life Gal. Why can't you people just get on the treadmill, do whatever you're going to do, and dispense with the drama?!

 
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gruecd said:
Grue - things could be worse. I initially read your doctor report as torn labia. What you have sounds better than that.
:lmao:
Sorry to hear, Grue. You are this thread's quintessential HTFU'er and I know you will get through this. A few months seems like a long time, but when you get old like some of us, you will see a small investment of time now will pay off with a long and healthy future.

I have not been running because of the cold. I think someone removed my balls and replaced them with a labia. Or maybe someone's big toes. I've been kind of afraid to look, and luckily I can't see past my giant gut to find out for sure.

Supposed to be warmer this weekend, so maybe I'll actually run.

 
I've been The_Man'ing this month. January will be the lowest mileage (67) I've run since 2010. :porked:

You upper midwest folks can laugh all you want, but these temps are insane. Running with ice chunks on my beard..... This #### is for the birds. Y'all can have it!

Today's run felt like a spring day @ 26deg.

 
I Grasp Onto The Handlebars For Dear Life Gal.
I've heard about her but don't recall ever being next to her. I'm pretty tolerant besides smells. I can't stand to be next to I Just Bathed In Cologne Guy, My Culture Doesn't Frequently Bathe Guy, or Treadmills Make Me Fart Guy.

 
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I have not run once since last Tuesday, still battling the Flu and I don't see an end in sight to this. Luckily my half marathon is not until April but any shot of an 8:20 pace for it is quickly going out the window. I'm dreading the idea of starting from scratch with my runs but I will have to slowly build back to my normal 25 mile total run week.

 
I have not run once since last Tuesday, still battling the Flu and I don't see an end in sight to this. Luckily my half marathon is not until April but any shot of an 8:20 pace for it is quickly going out the window. I'm dreading the idea of starting from scratch with my runs but I will have to slowly build back to my normal 25 mile total run week.
You shouldn't lose that much fitness in only a week or two. How many days are you running per week? For half marathon training, 25 is rather light.

 
gruecd said:
Back from the doctor, and not the results that I wanted to hear... :sad:

Partial superior labral tear and some hip impingement, so basically I either get surgery to fix the labrum and shave off the extra bone, or else I risk long-term damage to the joint (i.e., needing hip replacement at 50 years old). It's minimally invasive surgery (usually arthoscopic), but it would mean a month on crutches and then probably another couple of months no running after that.

Seriously depressed right now. I feel like crying. :cry:
sorry.

at least now you know. at 2Y2B put it best, this is a small bump in the road although it feels large right now. You'll come back better than ever after getting some well deserved rest.

No running... so is this the time you'll finally swim consistently?
Maybe. And probably lots of hours on the bike trainer, which to me is almost worse than the treadmill....

Sounds like it's gonna take a while to get an appointment with the dude in Minneapolis, who's supposedly one of the best, but from what everyone says, it's worth the wait. Found a very helpful Facebook group and connected with a couple of people who had him do the same surgery, and they said that he's gonna recommend a few months of PT first. She also said that this particular doc was OK with her racing through the pain last summer and putting off surgery until fall; apparently to some degree, a tear is a tear. Gives me something to think about with Boston, I guess.
Good luck. One of my bike teammates has a similar issue with surgery planned for early March. Dr has him doing bike work now to strengthen the muscles before surgery. Doesn't sound fun in the least.

 
I Grasp Onto The Handlebars For Dear Life Gal.
I've heard about her but don't recall ever being next to her. I'm pretty tolerant besides smells. I can't stand to be next to I Just Bathed In Cologne Guy, My Culture Doesn't Frequently Bathe Guy, or Treadmills Make Me Fart Guy.
I take pride in being that guy.

Off topic but a couple of years ago I'm doing the Xmas dinner thing with my gf's family. I unleash a SBD fart. My gf's sister asks her 3 yo if she needs a diaper change and I start cracking up. She looks at me and says oh, it's you.

You heard of the phrase leaving someone in the dust. It's happened before in races, especially longer ones involve gu, when I've passed someone I've dusted them both figuratively and literally.

 
So Dr. Larson in Minneapolis does complimentary scan reviews for out-of-state patients. I have to send a copy of the DVD to his nurse, and then I'll hear back within a couple of weeks. If I'm a good candidate, I could maybe see him in April, and if we'd agree on surgery, it probably wouldn' happen until early summer.

Seeing another guy in Milwaukee on 2/21 (also well regarded), but I really feel like it's worth waiting to see this Larson guy.

So do I just quit running in the meantime, or do I scale back to 2-3 runs during the week (with one long run) to minimize potential damage, cross-train the other days, get PT, and still do Boston?

 
So Dr. Larson in Minneapolis does complimentary scan reviews for out-of-state patients. I have to send a copy of the DVD to his nurse, and then I'll hear back within a couple of weeks. If I'm a good candidate, I could maybe see him in April, and if we'd agree on surgery, it probably wouldn' happen until early summer.

Seeing another guy in Milwaukee on 2/21 (also well regarded), but I really feel like it's worth waiting to see this Larson guy.

So do I just quit running in the meantime, or do I scale back to 2-3 runs during the week (with one long run) to minimize potential damage, cross-train the other days, get PT, and still do Boston?
If it was me, I would drop my mileage back to "maintenance" volume and forget about Boston. (Well, if it was really me I would gut it out for Boston, but you've done that race a bunch of times already so it's not such a big deal). Run enough to stay sane but don't do anything that would aggravate the injury you already have. I definitely wouldn't stop running completely though, especially since you're not looking at surgery for another 6+ months.

Just my .02.

 
I have not run once since last Tuesday, still battling the Flu and I don't see an end in sight to this. Luckily my half marathon is not until April but any shot of an 8:20 pace for it is quickly going out the window. I'm dreading the idea of starting from scratch with my runs but I will have to slowly build back to my normal 25 mile total run week.
You shouldn't lose that much fitness in only a week or two. How many days are you running per week? For half marathon training, 25 is rather light.
I hope not but I honestly don't see being fit until late in to next week, and that's only if I'm lucky. Usually run 5 miles on Monday, 7.25 on Tuesday, Wednesday is a break day, 5-6 on Thursday, Friday is a break, 7 on saturday. I figure that about a month before I'll decrease my monday and thursday run and increase my saturday run slowly from 10-14 at race pace.

 
So Dr. Larson in Minneapolis does complimentary scan reviews for out-of-state patients. I have to send a copy of the DVD to his nurse, and then I'll hear back within a couple of weeks. If I'm a good candidate, I could maybe see him in April, and if we'd agree on surgery, it probably wouldn' happen until early summer.

Seeing another guy in Milwaukee on 2/21 (also well regarded), but I really feel like it's worth waiting to see this Larson guy.

So do I just quit running in the meantime, or do I scale back to 2-3 runs during the week (with one long run) to minimize potential damage, cross-train the other days, get PT, and still do Boston?
If it was me, I would drop my mileage back to "maintenance" volume and forget about Boston. (Well, if it was really me I would gut it out for Boston, but you've done that race a bunch of times already so it's not such a big deal). Run enough to stay sane but don't do anything that would aggravate the injury you already have. I definitely wouldn't stop running completely though, especially since you're not looking at surgery for another 6+ months.

Just my .02.
This. Especially the bolded. As much as it sucks, Boston will always be there for when you're back to full strength.

 
Grue - so hard for us to answer that one. You know the level of pain, and you know what Boston will mean to you (especially this year).

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On the good news front: I am officially Dr. Tri-man!!! I successfully completed my doctoral defense earlier today and just need to take care of the paperwork.

 
So Dr. Larson in Minneapolis does complimentary scan reviews for out-of-state patients. I have to send a copy of the DVD to his nurse, and then I'll hear back within a couple of weeks. If I'm a good candidate, I could maybe see him in April, and if we'd agree on surgery, it probably wouldn' happen until early summer.

Seeing another guy in Milwaukee on 2/21 (also well regarded), but I really feel like it's worth waiting to see this Larson guy.

So do I just quit running in the meantime, or do I scale back to 2-3 runs during the week (with one long run) to minimize potential damage, cross-train the other days, get PT, and still do Boston?
Really depends how important Boston is to you. That trip probably covers a good portion of your deductible. You have a better handle on the potential damage than us. Personally unless I was doing a repeat event with friends, I would have no interest in spending that type of coin just to do it again when I could walk out my back door and run 26.2.

Honestly Larson while looking good on paper may not be the best guy for you. I would want someone who specialize in hips, not knees and hips. I would be interested in someone who's doing more surgery than lecturing. I don't know if you're an education snob, but his education resume isn't going to be confused as the best ever. Lastly and most importantly, I would want someone who you could easily access afterwards. While you're up at the top of our athlete list, you may not be as important to the guy who's a physician for the pros. If something doesn't feel right a week after surgery, I would want to see the doc who did the surgery in a day or two. Maybe he is the top dog, but I just wanted to give you some things to think about as you do your due diligence. His credentials sure do look good on paper.

 
Grue - so hard for us to answer that one. You know the level of pain, and you know what Boston will mean to you (especially this year).

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On the good news front: I am officially Dr. Tri-man!!! I successfully completed my doctoral defense earlier today and just need to take care of the paperwork.
Congrats Doc. Doc of what?

 
So Dr. Larson in Minneapolis does complimentary scan reviews for out-of-state patients. I have to send a copy of the DVD to his nurse, and then I'll hear back within a couple of weeks. If I'm a good candidate, I could maybe see him in April, and if we'd agree on surgery, it probably wouldn' happen until early summer.

Seeing another guy in Milwaukee on 2/21 (also well regarded), but I really feel like it's worth waiting to see this Larson guy.

So do I just quit running in the meantime, or do I scale back to 2-3 runs during the week (with one long run) to minimize potential damage, cross-train the other days, get PT, and still do Boston?
My buddy Jim toed the line at Western States with surgery already planned. Actually 3 surgeries - IT band release, cleaning up some cartilage in the knee, and removing a lump/growth from the back of his leg. His doctor told him it wouldn't get worse by running, although I think technically everything gets worse when running 100 miles. So i think that's the key - are you going to do more damage, or is the damage already done (a tear is a tear)?

Of course Jim almost lost his leg after the surgery, so there's that.

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Nice.

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Awesome!

:tebow:

 
Grue - so hard for us to answer that one. You know the level of pain, and you know what Boston will mean to you (especially this year).

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On the good news front: I am officially Dr. Tri-man!!! I successfully completed my doctoral defense earlier today and just need to take care of the paperwork.
Congrats Doc. Doc of what?
Dr. Lunge.
My first thought...there had to be some lunges done while working on his dissertation.

And we have the bow smilie on here...we need one doing lunges for Tri-Man

 
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Grue - so hard for us to answer that one. You know the level of pain, and you know what Boston will mean to you (especially this year).

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On the good news front: I am officially Dr. Tri-man!!! I successfully completed my doctoral defense earlier today and just need to take care of the paperwork.
:grad:

Huzzah!

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Congrats!

Can I get a copy? Been having trouble sleeping lately. ;)

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Congrats!

Can I get a copy? Been having trouble sleeping lately. ;)
Copy of his disert of a video copy of his last marathon run???

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Does this mean you only work about 10 hours a week and can get back into the tri game?

 
4 miles tomorrow and I hit 100 for the month. All outside. Most proud of myself I have been runningand it not be a race.

 
It's a DBA: A Doctorate in Business Administration with a concentration in Accounting. :yawn: The DBA is more of a practitioner's degree, but structurally, it's the same (and counts the same) as a Ph.D.

Dissertation: Readiness for Change and Perceptions of the Learning Organization in Public Accounting Firms
Does this mean you only work about 10 hours a week and can get back into the tri game?
When I can get a faculty appointment (maybe not next fall, but certainly by the year after) ...absolutely.

beer, what kind of medicine do you need? I'll see what I can do. Until then, do 10 lunges and call me in the morning.

 
tri-man 47 said:
On the good news front: I am officially Dr. Tri-man!!! I successfully completed my doctoral defense earlier today and just need to take care of the paperwork.
Already congratulated you on Facebook, but I know how hard you've worked on it, and it's such a huge accomplishment that I wanted to do it here, too. Way to go, my friend! :hifive:

 
As far as my situation is concerned, I set up the bike trainer last night, turned on an episode of "Law & Order," and rode for about 40 minutes. Hoping to ride another hour after work today. If I'm gonna keep my 25-year-old GF around, I can't get fat. ;)

I also think I'm gonna get one more opinion. There's a guy in Chicago (Shane Nho) who's also very well regarded. He did a travelling fellowship with three of the very best (Kelly, Byrd, and Philippon). He does free reviews, too, so I'm gonna mail him a disc and see if he thinks an office visit is worthwhile. Sounds like it's a little easier to see this guy, too. Talked to a girl in his office, and she said that it usually only takes a couple of weeks.

 
Finally, since it sounds like surgery wouldn't happen anyway until late spring or early summer, I'm leaning towards running Boston. I'm seeing my PT on Monday to get an appropriate "pre-hab" routine, and I'm thinking I'll just run 2-3 times per week and do the rest on my bike. Pain permitting, I'd try to do a progressively longer run every other weekend, culminating in a single 20-miler three weeks pre-Boston.

This isn't set in stone yet, but it's where my head is at right now....

 
Finally, since it sounds like surgery wouldn't happen anyway until late spring or early summer, I'm leaning towards running Boston. I'm seeing my PT on Monday to get an appropriate "pre-hab" routine, and I'm thinking I'll just run 2-3 times per week and do the rest on my bike. Pain permitting, I'd try to do a progressively longer run every other weekend, culminating in a single 20-miler three weeks pre-Boston.

This isn't set in stone yet, but it's where my head is at right now....
Good to see the extent of your research on this. Regarding Boston, this year could likely be your most memorable year ever. The training limitations, and start corral, will force you to a slower pace. But this is the year to take it slow and take in all the surroundings. You'll be able to watch the start before getting ready for your later start, and you can cruise along and be part of the incredible experience that will occur in April.

 

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