Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[pigskinliquors]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?

If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?

I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor and the ipod logs distance, time, pace, calories, etc for every run. Each time you plug the ipod in it updates on the nikeplus.com website and you can setup challenges with friends for pretty much anything. It's incredibly motivating.I have monthly challenges with my friends and it really forces me to put in the miles each and every month.

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before! {edited to add that depending on your work situation, this might not be the best link to click}

 

[lumpy19]

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before! {edited to add that depending on your work situation, this might not be the best link to click}

I have seen that this is better

 

[tri-man 47]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?

If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?

I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before!

That always makes my sensor tingle.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?

If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?

I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before!

That always makes my sensor tingle.

 

[pigskinliquors]

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before! {edited to add that depending on your work situation, this might not be the best link to click}

I have seen that this is better

I may have to get one then! NTTAWWT is there?

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Oh, one more thing for my race report.

Flying home, I ended up going through JFK ( :finger: to JFK, but that's another story). The plane finally lifted off at sunset, with the sun about halfway down on the horizon. :gorgeous: We were airborne, and the pilot quickly gained altitude. The sun actually rose, before setting once again a few minutes later.

Two sunsets in the same day, with a western sunrise in between. :finger: to physics and the laws of nature!

 

[Dash]

I'm staggering into this thread a little late, but I'll need all the help I can get, so here it goes. I started the coolrunnings program that Furley did about 3 weeks ago. I'm scared that next week will require me to run 8 minutes of a 9.5 minute period, so I am way behind everyone here. I've been using the time method, not the distance method, and just slowing down if I get tired. Who am I kidding, I'm moving slow in the first 10 seconds.. I've never really eaten fruits/veggies, which has probably made it hard for me to lose weight. I've tried the Atkins thing before, but that is hard to stick to. My current life changing quest started when I realized I was at 220lbs, and I saw some pictures of me on my last trip to Dublin. You know you need to change when you don't want to show family vacation pictures because your gut dominates the picture..Anyhow, after about 6-8 weeks of cutting out sodas and junk food (except for a RARE cheat once every week or two) I was down to 213 or so. Then I stumbled upon the thread about losing 30 lbs in 2 months, and Furley had posted the coolrunnings link. The article and Furley's passion convinced me to try it. I also went to just water, instead of powerade, and am trying to eat smaller portions and less fatty foods. Anyhow, nearly 3 weeks later I'm at 205, and I've gotten comments on people noticing that my stomach is smaller. I know I have a long way to go. OH! I bought some good running shoes from Zappos.com, so I'm good there.I'm 36yrs old, and have a small frame. I was a skinny kid in high school. All my weight seems to have built up around my waist, go figure. So, any general suggestions? Best stretching suggestions for before/after? I was never an athlete, so telling me "cross-over ninja strectch" will be received as . Best excercises to incorporate to eliminate my gut/strengthen my legs? Also, the last couple of times I ran, towards the end of the "long" 3 minute run, I was having a sharp pain in my right side, just below my ribs, I'd guess maybe just over where the appendix is located. Any idea what that is? Cramps? Dehydration? my fat melting away? Do I have a target weight I should shoot for? I'm 5-11.5", small frame, etc.OK, keep me motivated. Thanks..

First, awesome job so far! Being 5'11" I couldn't imagine carrying around that much weight, let alone losing the 25 lbs you've dropped so far. You have my respect. Second, I just saw this post (been away for a few days) and want to say: you came to the right place. These guys are going to help you stay motivated and steer you clear of the trouble spots that prevent most folks from sticking with a plan.

 

[BassNBrew]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?

If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?

I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor and the ipod logs distance, time, pace, calories, etc for every run. Each time you plug the ipod in it updates on the nikeplus.com website and you can setup challenges with friends for pretty much anything. It's incredibly motivating.I have monthly challenges with my friends and it really forces me to put in the miles each and every month.

It may by cool, but you obviously haven't seen this before! {edited to add that depending on your work situation, this might not be the best link to click}

Thought I'd stop in here to catch up before work...now I'm going be late bassturd.

 

[Dash]

Roarin -- One of us VA folks should have told you the drive to Virginia Beach is always horrible. Sorry. BTW, way to go on the PR!

Training Update: Riding while feeling under the weather is not very fun, but it sure helps build confidence! I've been battling something for about a week and managed to ride three times, the longest of which was 43 miles in a small group of three (Quantico Marine Base has some great roads to ride on, even if you do hear the occasional pop-pop-POW). All in all, I'm happy with about 80 "sick" miles. Assuming I'm healthy this weekend, I want to complete a 65-70 mi solo. My average speed continues to creep up while the efforts feel comparable. Progress. 3 and a half weeks until the century.

 

[Sid]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:

1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.

2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more.

3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired.

SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore.

On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

One more race weekend note. As you might guess from my sig, Nickelback's "Rockstar" is pretty much my running anthem at the moment. I guess it just shows that I was in the Bible Belt, but one radio station actually bleeped the references to "drugs" in the song. Nevermind that the girls were easy, just don't do drugs! I've heard ### (3-letter word for butt, or donkey) bleeped before, but this was weird. lol I must have briefly driven out of the Belt later, as another station played "Cocaine" without any bleeps.

Speaking of odd edits, I was flipping through the channels at the hotel, and caught some of "Titanic" on TNT. They bleeped "Jesus"! After Rose goes up on point at the 3rd class party, a woman says "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!". Stranger still, while they had a problem with "Jesus", the censors had no problem showing the nude drawing of Rose (but not the real thing). Weird weird weird.

 

[Norman Einstein]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

i think i've become addicted to ibuprofen

 

[SFBayDuck]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor and the ipod logs distance, time, pace, calories, etc for every run. Each time you plug the ipod in it updates on the nikeplus.com website and you can setup challenges with friends for pretty much anything. It's incredibly motivating.I have monthly challenges with my friends and it really forces me to put in the miles each and every month.

That looks pretty cool (not nearly as cool as Alba, but....), does it work with any shoes or just special Nike+ shoes with the little compartment for the sensor?

 

[Norman Einstein]

I've been reading this thread on and off so sorry if i missed it but are any of you using the Nike+ setup on these runs?If so any interest in a FBG challenge for some extra motivation?I've found the nike+ challenges to be a great source of motivation for my runs over the past 6 months.

This is new to me. Whatcha talking' about, lumpy?

It's about the best thing ever. Buy an ipod nano for running, add a Nike+ kit($29.99) and get your sneakers setup with the sensor and the ipod logs distance, time, pace, calories, etc for every run. Each time you plug the ipod in it updates on the nikeplus.com website and you can setup challenges with friends for pretty much anything. It's incredibly motivating.I have monthly challenges with my friends and it really forces me to put in the miles each and every month.

That looks pretty cool (not nearly as cool as Alba, but....), does it work with any shoes or just special Nike+ shoes with the little compartment for the sensor?

i've wondered why someone hasn't put sensors in both shoes that would read each other....you'd be able to get a nearly precise distance for run/walk....or maybe this already exists and i haven't noticed

 

[pigskinliquors]

Son of a %$#@@#$%$!!! Like an idiot (hitting myself over the head like Dobby), I ran waaaaaay too fast for me yesterday. My legs were feeling good, and the weather was unseasonable = not scorching. I was supposed to just put in 6 junk miles between my 10 miler (last Sunday) and a 35/6 brick (scheduled for tomorrow), but started much quicker than I wanted, and still did negative splits (first mile at 8:10, last at 7:40). To put it in perspective, I've been training at an 8:30 pace due to the heat, and not knowing what to expect from my body doing a half IM.

Cutting to the chase: with just a quarter of my last mile left, my Garmin had me at a 7:26 pace I started to slow it down, and my left calf tweaked. I slowly jogged home (last mile was still at 7:40), and started to pray. It hurt like hell all day yesterday, and I had Mrs. Liquors (who's currently going back to school to be a Massage Therapist!) rub it down for me. I woke up with it feeling much better, though a bit tender. I'm certain I didn't tear anything, but the fibers are damaged. I'm going to postpone my brick until next Thursday, and not run until at least Saturday (at a very slow pace!). Hopefully all will be fine, and I can continue to train. With my back messed up, minimizing my swimming, I'm currently feeling quite old and decrepit

 

[lumpy19]

That looks pretty cool (not nearly as cool as Alba, but....), does it work with any shoes or just special Nike+ shoes with the little compartment for the sensor?

It seems to work best with Nike + shoes but you can buy nice neoprene pouches that attach to the laces of any shoes.

 

[Darrinll40]

I just ran 4.18 miles at just about flat out. I finished in 34:01, a 8:08 pace. Which is exactly the pace of my last 5K race. I did the first half in 16:46 and the last in 17:15.

Yesterday I ran 5.7 miles at a 9:40 pace. I included 4 sprint intervals into that race.

I am hoping that on the 15h I can do the 4 miles in around 30 minutes. I will be better rested and fresher on that day.

 

[tri-man 47]

I just ran 4.18 miles at just about flat out. I finished in 34:01, a 8:08 pace. Which is exactly the pace of my last 5K race. I did the first half in 16:46 and the last in 17:15. Yesterday I ran 5.7 miles at a 9:40 pace. I included 4 sprint intervals into that race. I am hoping that on the 15h I can do the 4 miles in around 30 minutes. I will be better rested and fresher on that day.

You complete us.

 

[bentley]

I just ran 4.18 miles at just about flat out. I finished in 34:01, a 8:08 pace. Which is exactly the pace of my last 5K race. I did the first half in 16:46 and the last in 17:15. Yesterday I ran 5.7 miles at a 9:40 pace. I included 4 sprint intervals into that race. I am hoping that on the 15h I can do the 4 miles in around 30 minutes. I will be better rested and fresher on that day.

Damn. I'm impressed. Looking forward to my 5K Friday. If I can keep it under 9 per mile, I'll be happy.

 

[tri-man 47]

Son of a %$#@@#$%$!!! Like an idiot (hitting myself over the head like Dobby), I ran waaaaaay too fast for me yesterday. My legs were feeling good, and the weather was unseasonable = not scorching. I was supposed to just put in 6 junk miles between my 10 miler (last Sunday) and a 35/6 brick (scheduled for tomorrow), but started much quicker than I wanted, and still did negative splits (first mile at 8:10, last at 7:40). To put it in perspective, I've been training at an 8:30 pace due to the heat, and not knowing what to expect from my body doing a half IM. Cutting to the chase: with just a quarter of my last mile left, my Garmin had me at a 7:26 pace I started to slow it down, and my left calf tweaked. I slowly jogged home (last mile was still at 7:40), and started to pray. It hurt like hell all day yesterday, and I had Mrs. Liquors (who's currently going back to school to be a Massage Therapist!) rub it down for me. I woke up with it feeling much better, though a bit tender. I'm certain I didn't tear anything, but the fibers are damaged. I'm going to postpone my brick until next Thursday, and not run until at least Saturday (at a very slow pace!). Hopefully all will be fine, and I can continue to train. With my back messed up, minimizing my swimming, I'm currently feeling quite old and decrepit

Sigh. You are such an old weenie. I don't know why we e-hang out with you.Take care of that calf, my friend. Those can be nasty things, though a 'tweak' is much better than a 'pop.' Don't force the training just to stay on a schedule. Do what's right, and the race'll take care of itself. Ultimately the half-I/M will be about the conditioning of your heart - don't force the rest of it just because you think you have to.

 

[tri-man 47]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

Good job ...good progress. But watch #3! Keep something handy and remember to eat/drink an hour or two before the run.

 

[tri-man 47]

I ran the Virginia Beach half-marathon on Sunday ... I may have broken down mentally as I realized I wasn't going to reach my goal. I think I might have gotten into a bit of an "aww eff it, 2hrs is out of reach, so why bother" mindset, so I started walking more.

First of all, congrats on banging out another one of the races! I get caught up in the artificial "goals" too often ...it becomes hard not to watch the watch. Isn't it odd, in hindsight, that you could have the frustration despite achieving a PR? But again, congrats! This year has been a great adventure for you!

 

[Norman Einstein]

pounded out another 5k tonight after taking an extra night off...28.58 this time...

6/09 - 42.10

6/13 - 36.05

6/16 - 34.15

6/26 - 34.05

6/29 - 33.10

7/04 - 33.25

7/30 - 33.46

8/02 - 31.50

8/13 - 31.46

8/17 - 31.21

8/19 - 30.54

8/21 - 30.42

8/23 - 29.54

8/25 - 29.57

8/27 - 30.16

8/29 - 29.52

8/31 - 29.55

9/02 - 29.11

9/05 - 28.58

dropped my times quite a bit since I started....must something to do with not having to lug an additional 25lbs around for 3 miles

 

[bentley]

pounded out another 5k tonight after taking an extra night off...28.58 this time...6/09 - 42.106/13 - 36.056/16 - 34.156/26 - 34.056/29 - 33.107/04 - 33.257/30 - 33.468/02 - 31.508/13 - 31.468/17 - 31.218/19 - 30.548/21 - 30.428/23 - 29.548/25 - 29.578/27 - 30.168/29 - 29.528/31 - 29.559/02 - 29.119/05 - 28.58dropped my times quite a bit since I started....must something to do with not having to lug an additional 25lbs around for 3 miles

I ran my 5K in April at around 27:30 and 200 pounds. Saturday, I'm going to run it at 180. Hoping to significantly improve the time. The only opposing factor is that I'll probably be hung over.

 

[BassNBrew]

pounded out another 5k tonight after taking an extra night off...28.58 this time...6/09 - 42.106/13 - 36.056/16 - 34.156/26 - 34.056/29 - 33.107/04 - 33.257/30 - 33.468/02 - 31.508/13 - 31.468/17 - 31.218/19 - 30.548/21 - 30.428/23 - 29.548/25 - 29.578/27 - 30.168/29 - 29.528/31 - 29.559/02 - 29.119/05 - 28.58dropped my times quite a bit since I started....must something to do with not having to lug an additional 25lbs around for 3 miles

AT this rate you'll be ready for the Olympic trials.

 

[BassNBrew]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

1. Don't worry about the stretching. Stretch afterwards, cold stretching will hinder your performance. My training partner does this thing she calls shagging. It's like a shuffle jog. You want to warm the engine up, not redline it.2. I'd suggest not masking the pain on a regular basis. While soreness is weakness leaving the body, it's also your feedback mechanism on when you should be training hard and when you should be recovering.3. Feed that machine every 2-3 hours, especially protein while training.Congrats on not being as much of a man as you used to be. Moving to the women's scale (sub 200) is quite an accomplishment.

 

[BassNBrew]

TT report from last nite.

Good: Set a new PR by 7 seconds... :finger: to you guys laughing at the new lid. Pics later just for Coldeus.

Bad: Missed my goal of 25 mph by 7 seconds.

Ugly: My lap times - needed a 3:25 average.

1) 3:25 (25 mph)

2) 3:25

3) 3:35 (23.9 mph)

4) 3:35

5) 3:35

6) 3:25

7) 3:07 (27.5 mph)

The lack of speed workouts has hurt. Nothing can replace the benefits of the misery of speed workouts. The legs/lungs just weren't there. I got slotted with the slower riders wasn't passed until lap 6 when the faster riders were rolling out. Two disc wheelers passed me and I chased one down on lap 6 and made up 30-40 yards on the other to pass him on lap 7. Touchy moment as I had to pass him on the inside as I was finishing/pulling onto pit road while he had 5 more laps to complete. Obviously I have an issue when I ride better when I'm being passed/paced. I need to work passed that.

Other notes:

At the start line they were playing You Dropped a Bomb On Me. GDB having that song in your head for the majority of 24 minutes. Worse yet, thinking to yourself that it was appropriate that they were playing it in honor of your legs/lungs.

I'll have the wind stats in a couple of days. The flag on the infield was erect but not flapping. I'll have to factor that in v. my last ride to see in there was an impact on performance and excuse for sucking.

I was told that I may have atheletic induced asthama or I could just be in piss poor shape. I didn't catch my breath for nearly 15 minutes and felt like yaking for 5. My training partner told me it would be a good excuse to get an inhaler that 80% of the riders are using. Funny how common this is among cyclists. Of course I'm discounting the impact of 20+ beers last Saturday nite.

 

[tri-man 47]

My training partner does this thing she calls shagging.

She must reall ...I'd be glad to hel ...That must fee ....Ah, too easy, too easy.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I ran the Virginia Beach half-marathon on Sunday ... I may have broken down mentally as I realized I wasn't going to reach my goal. I think I might have gotten into a bit of an "aww eff it, 2hrs is out of reach, so why bother" mindset, so I started walking more.

First of all, congrats on banging out another one of the races! I get caught up in the artificial "goals" too often ...it becomes hard not to watch the watch. Isn't it odd, in hindsight, that you could have the frustration despite achieving a PR? But again, congrats! This year has been a great adventure for you!

Thanks. Eh, not so much frustration, just 'meh'. I don't usually run half-marathons, so I don't really have a history to compare against. My old PR? February of 2001. This kinda says that I haven't changed much in the past six years, tho it's only a sample size of two. My old full-marathon PR? Mid-80s. After running a few nearly-5hr times recently, I broke a 20+yr old PR, blowing away the more recent times. That rates more of a . I suspect a 5hr time would have been in the cards had this been a full-marathon. So, this race rates a . However, it may have served to wake up my legs, and perhaps San Jose will be more fruitful. Nashville was a 'meh', but then a month later I flew through San Diego, so we shall see. :(And yes, it has been an adventure. I've been quite pleased with my effort. I started this quest a year ago, joining TNT pretty much to force myself to get out there and run (organized practices, etc). Yet, once I completed PF Chang's and then decided to go Rockstar, I've been training all on my own. A little bling is quite the motivational carrot. lolSpeaking of bling, once I receive the last medals, I'll have to find a stripper to model them for y'all. lol

 

[gruecd]

I've seen a few posts talking about Accelerade, and it got me thinking. I've been doing a low carb diet in addition to cutting out junk food and sodas, and I'm limiting my drinking to only water 95% of the time. At what point in my running progression do I need to start worrying about drinking powerade/gatorade, etc., and how much should I drink, if any, on a 2 or 3 mile run? Those distances are still a month or so away for me, though..

Low-carb diet + "running progression" =

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

I've seen a few posts talking about Accelerade, and it got me thinking. I've been doing a low carb diet in addition to cutting out junk food and sodas, and I'm limiting my drinking to only water 95% of the time. At what point in my running progression do I need to start worrying about drinking powerade/gatorade, etc., and how much should I drink, if any, on a 2 or 3 mile run? Those distances are still a month or so away for me, though..

Low-carb diet + "running progression" =

 

[pigskinliquors]

Son of a %$#@@#$%$!!! Like an idiot (hitting myself over the head like Dobby), I ran waaaaaay too fast for me yesterday. My legs were feeling good, and the weather was unseasonable = not scorching. I was supposed to just put in 6 junk miles between my 10 miler (last Sunday) and a 35/6 brick (scheduled for tomorrow), but started much quicker than I wanted, and still did negative splits (first mile at 8:10, last at 7:40). To put it in perspective, I've been training at an 8:30 pace due to the heat, and not knowing what to expect from my body doing a half IM.

Cutting to the chase: with just a quarter of my last mile left, my Garmin had me at a 7:26 pace I started to slow it down, and my left calf tweaked. I slowly jogged home (last mile was still at 7:40), and started to pray. It hurt like hell all day yesterday, and I had Mrs. Liquors (who's currently going back to school to be a Massage Therapist!) rub it down for me. I woke up with it feeling much better, though a bit tender. I'm certain I didn't tear anything, but the fibers are damaged. I'm going to postpone my brick until next Thursday, and not run until at least Saturday (at a very slow pace!). Hopefully all will be fine, and I can continue to train. With my back messed up, minimizing my swimming, I'm currently feeling quite old and decrepit

Sigh. You are such an old weenie. I don't know why we e-hang out with you.Take care of that calf, my friend. Those can be nasty things, though a 'tweak' is much better than a 'pop.' Don't force the training just to stay on a schedule. Do what's right, and the race'll take care of itself. Ultimately the half-I/M will be about the conditioning of your heart - don't force the rest of it just because you think you have to.

"Old Weenie" is exactly how I feel. I met w/ my Dr. this morning (he's fortunately a Sports Medicine Specialist). He said he'd love to send me to rehab, but I'd just re-injure my calf and or knee in the very near future again anyway. He said the same about my back/shoulder. His advice was for me to re-learn how to both run and swim all over, from scratch. He said that muscles have "memory" as they like to do what they've done in the past = my injuries which are now recurrent, will continue to pop up, as long as I workout the way that I am. He HIGHLY recommend both Chi Running and Total Immersion Swimming. Our library here has a copy of the swimming book, and I have the Chi running book on hold at Barnes and Noble.

Has anyone used either of these, or have any additional information? What my Dr. wants me to do is un-learn all of my bad habits, and learn less stressful, new habits (because I'm an "Old Weenie"). This old dog is being forced to learn some new tricks.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

1. Don't worry about the stretching. Stretch afterwards, cold stretching will hinder your performance. My training partner does this thing she calls shagging. It's like a shuffle jog. You want to warm the engine up, not redline it.2. I'd suggest not masking the pain on a regular basis. While soreness is weakness leaving the body, it's also your feedback mechanism on when you should be training hard and when you should be recovering.3. Feed that machine every 2-3 hours, especially protein while training.Congrats on not being as much of a man as you used to be. Moving to the women's scale (sub 200) is quite an accomplishment.

Adding on to #3, I can put down a Snickers Marthon bar and a banana and 10 to 12 ozs of water 20 minutes or so before any run i the morning, or just the Snickers bar at any other time during the day. I don't eat big meals throughout the day, rather I snack on things al day long. This change made me drop weight over the last 6 months and the energy from the bars will be noticeible. Try a few different bars to see what you lke. I find Power Bars sickening and don't care for the Gels.

 

[El Floppo]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

1. Don't worry about the stretching. Stretch afterwards, cold stretching will hinder your performance. My training partner does this thing she calls shagging. It's like a shuffle jog. You want to warm the engine up, not redline it.2. I'd suggest not masking the pain on a regular basis. While soreness is weakness leaving the body, it's also your feedback mechanism on when you should be training hard and when you should be recovering.3. Feed that machine every 2-3 hours, especially protein while training.Congrats on not being as much of a man as you used to be. Moving to the women's scale (sub 200) is quite an accomplishment.

Mutha-F'ing all the way around... except the part about the TT helmet.To paraphrase Henry Chinaski in "Barfly"... "I got the guts- I just need the fuel". Eat every few hours- even if it's a handful of grapes and some nuts. You'll keep your body fueled AND rejigger your metabolism to burn faster (just don't eat too much).

 

[GStrot]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

 

[BassNBrew]

Just completed my 2nd week #4 run/walk, and I think I made some mistakes. I need to type them so I realize them, and maybe try not to make them again.. I got in a little late and lollygagged before going running. Eventually, I went running at around 7:30pm, before dinner. my mistakes:1) Not stretching enough. I rushed through it, since I was late already.2) I was sore, but didn't take any Aleve or Motrin. Therefore, when I started hurting during the run, it hurt more. 3) I think it was a mistake to not eat for nearly 8 hours, then run.. I seemed pretty tired. SO, I need to remember to run ASAP in the evening, stretch more, and take drugs when my wimpy self is sore. On a positive note, I noticed soon after the run I was breathing normally, when 3 weeks ago I was gassed after the 60 second runs in week 1. Also, I'm down to 200 lbs. 20 pounds down, 20 more to go.

1. Don't worry about the stretching. Stretch afterwards, cold stretching will hinder your performance. My training partner does this thing she calls shagging. It's like a shuffle jog. You want to warm the engine up, not redline it.2. I'd suggest not masking the pain on a regular basis. While soreness is weakness leaving the body, it's also your feedback mechanism on when you should be training hard and when you should be recovering.3. Feed that machine every 2-3 hours, especially protein while training.Congrats on not being as much of a man as you used to be. Moving to the women's scale (sub 200) is quite an accomplishment.

Mutha-F'ing all the way around... except the part about the TT helmet.To paraphrase Henry Chinaski in "Barfly"... "I got the guts- I just need the fuel". Eat every few hours- even if it's a handful of grapes and some nuts. You'll keep your body fueled AND rejigger your metabolism to burn faster (just don't eat too much).

Thank you...not too bad for being hammered at that hour. Recovery ride this morning sucked though.

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

Hey, how's that Polar heart rate monitor working out for you?

 

[pigskinliquors]

Today was Day 1 of Total Immersion Swimming. Since my shoulder/back are all messed up, it looks like it's a great time to start. They have me starting by learning how to balance better in the water. I did 6 flippin' drills for an hour this morning (not once did I do anything that resembled swimming) all working on finding better balance while swimming. For the most part I was just floating in the water. Not much of a workout to say the least, but it was better than doing nothing (I hope ). I still haven't ran or biked since Tuesday (day I tweaked my calf). I'll read Chi Running tomorrow, will do a long/slow bike ride on Sunday morning, take Monday off, and then hopefully have my first run on Tuesday, prior to getting in my 35/6 brick next Thursday :fingerscrossed:

Edited to add: Here are the drills I'm working on (that's not me in the video!).

 

[GStrot]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

Hey, how's that Polar heart rate monitor working out for you?

Fine. It is interesting to watch my pace change so much during the run. I really have to work on that. Heart rate is improving even though my speed is not. I guess I just have to push myself to run faster. With the 5k in 2 months, that is something I am going to work on. Shorter distances but faster. P.S. Who are you?

 

[gruecd]

Running the Cheesehead 5-K tomorrow morning in my hometown. It's a pretty easy course, except that times tend to be slower because there's a decent-sized hill and an abrupt turnaround at the 2-mile mark. I finished 3rd last year in 19:34, but I'm hoping (with no real basis in reality) that I can maintain 6:08 pace and break the 19-minute mark. I ran 19:23 at a race earlier this summer (my PR), but I realize that 23 seconds is a HUGE improvement for a race this short.

The key for me will be pacing. I tend to go out WAY too fast, so my biggest thing will be keeping my first mile around 6:00 pace and no faster. If I can do that, I think I have a chance.

Anybody else racing this weekend?

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

Hey, how's that Polar heart rate monitor working out for you?

Fine. It is interesting to watch my pace change so much during the run. I really have to work on that. Heart rate is improving even though my speed is not. I guess I just have to push myself to run faster. With the 5k in 2 months, that is something I am going to work on. Shorter distances but faster. P.S. Who are you?

Your inbox is full.

 

[tri-man 47]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

Hey, how's that Polar heart rate monitor working out for you?

Fine. It is interesting to watch my pace change so much during the run. I really have to work on that. Heart rate is improving even though my speed is not. I guess I just have to push myself to run faster. With the 5k in 2 months, that is something I am going to work on. Shorter distances but faster. P.S. Who are you?

He's the Rock! AKA, the Anchor.

 

[tri-man 47]

Today was Day 1 of Total Immersion Swimming. Since my shoulder/back are all messed up, it looks like it's a great time to start. They have me starting by learning how to balance better in the water. I did 6 flippin' drills for an hour this morning (not once did I do anything that resembled swimming) all working on finding better balance while swimming. For the most part I was just floating in the water. Not much of a workout to say the least, but it was better than doing nothing (I hope ). I still haven't ran or biked since Tuesday (day I tweaked my calf). I'll read Chi Running tomorrow, will do a long/slow bike ride on Sunday morning, take Monday off, and then hopefully have my first run on Tuesday, prior to getting in my 35/6 brick next Thursday :fingerscrossed:

Edited to add: Here are the drills I'm working on (that's not me in the video!).

Liquors, I had meant to add that a good friend (endurance athlete - w/Ironman and marathon races) is a big fan of the Chi Running. I've not yet had a chance to read it. The Total Immersion guys write many of the swimming articles in Triathlete magazine, so I'm pretty familiar with their philosophy. I've also read an article by someone who went through their training, and it fits with what you've seen here at the start - a lot of focus on balance, and then technique (closed fist swimming and such). It'll probably be hard to be patient when you still have a big race coming up, but you'll find a way to learn from it and benefit, I'm sure.Nothing much this week for me - just some runs (long of 12 or 13), maybe a bike tomorrow morning. I'll race/run Furley's 5K up in Green Bay next weekend.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Today was Day 1 of Total Immersion Swimming. Since my shoulder/back are all messed up, it looks like it's a great time to start. They have me starting by learning how to balance better in the water. I did 6 flippin' drills for an hour this morning (not once did I do anything that resembled swimming) all working on finding better balance while swimming. For the most part I was just floating in the water. Not much of a workout to say the least, but it was better than doing nothing (I hope ). I still haven't ran or biked since Tuesday (day I tweaked my calf). I'll read Chi Running tomorrow, will do a long/slow bike ride on Sunday morning, take Monday off, and then hopefully have my first run on Tuesday, prior to getting in my 35/6 brick next Thursday :fingerscrossed:

Edited to add: Here are the drills I'm working on (that's not me in the video!).

Liquors, I had meant to add that a good friend (endurance athlete - w/Ironman and marathon races) is a big fan of the Chi Running. I've not yet had a chance to read it. The Total Immersion guys write many of the swimming articles in Triathlete magazine, so I'm pretty familiar with their philosophy. I've also read an article by someone who went through their training, and it fits with what you've seen here at the start - a lot of focus on balance, and then technique (closed fist swimming and such). It'll probably be hard to be patient when you still have a big race coming up, but you'll find a way to learn from it and benefit, I'm sure.Nothing much this week for me - just some runs (long of 12 or 13), maybe a bike tomorrow morning. I'll race/run Furley's 5K up in Green Bay next weekend.

just 12 or 13 miles! You are a machine. Best of luck to both you and Furley and to all who race this weekend :veryjealousoldweenie:

 

[GStrot]

Ran a 10K on Saturday. Finished last in my division as usual, but set a new PR of 1:05:48. I did manage to beat 12 people overall out of 177, so at least I wasn't last.

Man am I slow.

Nice job. Knowing how tough that is, 1:05 is a great time. I finished last in my age group as well. New PR is great! Now go set a newer one!

Hey, how's that Polar heart rate monitor working out for you?

Fine. It is interesting to watch my pace change so much during the run. I really have to work on that. Heart rate is improving even though my speed is not. I guess I just have to push myself to run faster. With the 5k in 2 months, that is something I am going to work on. Shorter distances but faster. P.S. Who are you?

Your inbox is full.

I deleted one message. I am only 98% full now.

 

[matuski]

Hard to believe, but this thread is longer than the Beautiful Women thread... I don't know if this is good or bad.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Hard to believe, but this thread is longer than the Beautiful Women thread... I don't know if this is good or bad.

Perhaps this thread should be renamed to "Beautiful Men"?

 

[El Floppo]

Today was Day 1 of Total Immersion Swimming. Since my shoulder/back are all messed up, it looks like it's a great time to start. They have me starting by learning how to balance better in the water. I did 6 flippin' drills for an hour this morning (not once did I do anything that resembled swimming) all working on finding better balance while swimming. For the most part I was just floating in the water. Not much of a workout to say the least, but it was better than doing nothing (I hope ). I still haven't ran or biked since Tuesday (day I tweaked my calf). I'll read Chi Running tomorrow, will do a long/slow bike ride on Sunday morning, take Monday off, and then hopefully have my first run on Tuesday, prior to getting in my 35/6 brick next Thursday :fingerscrossed:

Edited to add: Here are the drills I'm working on (that's not me in the video!).

Liquors, I had meant to add that a good friend (endurance athlete - w/Ironman and marathon races) is a big fan of the Chi Running. I've not yet had a chance to read it. The Total Immersion guys write many of the swimming articles in Triathlete magazine, so I'm pretty familiar with their philosophy. I've also read an article by someone who went through their training, and it fits with what you've seen here at the start - a lot of focus on balance, and then technique (closed fist swimming and such). It'll probably be hard to be patient when you still have a big race coming up, but you'll find a way to learn from it and benefit, I'm sure.Nothing much this week for me - just some runs (long of 12 or 13), maybe a bike tomorrow morning. I'll race/run Furley's 5K up in Green Bay next weekend.

just 12 or 13 miles! You are a machine. Best of luck to both you and Furley and to all who race this weekend :veryjealousoldweenie:

When I have some time, I want to check out that totalimmersion stuff. My old coaches had us doing lots of drills (I still see myself doing side kicking with one arm forward... in my nightmares) that I should have probably paid more attention to- only problem is I tended to sink during most of them. I'll be very interested in continuing to hear how it goes for you.

 

[El Floppo]

4m tempo run... 33:02.

Legs still tired from the 18miler last sunday.

 

[tri-man 47]

Hard to believe, but this thread is longer than the Beautiful Women thread... I don't know if this is good or bad.

Perhaps this thread should be renamed to "Beautiful Men"?

But I've noticed matuski's point as well. I think it means we all need to get a life.