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Darrin signed up for a half. He may consider a full if the half goes well, but it probably won't be in February. I am also semi-planning a local half in early January.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:I've got witnesses right? Way to go Darrin!
We'll be holding you to that come February...
Put down the coffee and back away from the table. Calm down and read more sloooowwwwly.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:I've got witnesses right? Way to go Darrin!
We'll be holding you to that come February...
I would really like to try a marathon sometime in the future, but I would like to get 3 or 10 half's under my belt first. And when I do sign up for a marathon, it will be a fun one, like Dsiney or the Space Coast.Put down the coffee and back away from the table. Calm down and read more sloooowwwwly.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:
We'll be holding you to that come February...
Put down the coffee and back away from the table. Calm down and read more sloooowwwwly.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:
We'll be holding you to that come February...
Freudian slip, maybe?
I entertained the same thoughts yesterday about doing a full marathon down the road until I encountered my basement stairs today. The half was enough for me, as I am a bit sore today. I am "pleased" that it appears to be just muscle ache and not any of the joints. Just got back from rewarding myself with a Little Tony's Bleu' Burger with bacon & mushrooms and a basket of fries (shared with my wife). I'll have to discover what this thing called core training is all about.I would really like to try a marathon sometime in the future, but I would like to get 3 or 10 half's under my belt first. And when I do sign up for a marathon, it will be a fun one, like Dsiney or the Space Coast.Put down the coffee and back away from the table. Calm down and read more sloooowwwwly.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:
We'll be holding you to that come February...
Put down the coffee and back away from the table. Calm down and read more sloooowwwwly.Wait a sec... did Darrin just say he's signing up for a marathon?Darrinll40 said:
We'll be holding you to that come February...
Trust me, Darrin, that's a very relative concept. ...although RoarinS might speak differently. His series actually sounded quite fun! RoarinS, early in yesterday's race we passed a band, and some guy mentioned it, so I got him excited about the RnR series that you did.
While you're not running sub-4:00, you're making the races a neat experience and achieving something special with the RnR series, as attested by the medals for 'em all.
Freudian or Young(man)ianFreudian slip, maybe?
fwiw- here's the 1st timer marathon schedule Righetti posted in his thread (I've been using the long runs only).If you use it for a base idea of how long you'd need to train for the marathon (I started thinking about that because Feb is only 4ish months away), and start at the point where 13 is your weekly long run (where you'll be post 1/2 marathon)- it looks like you'll need 11 or 12 weeks to build up to the marathon.
Remind me:Average weekly mileage over past two months?Length/number of long runs?Pacing of some runs (shorter and long)?
I had and kinda still have a similat ache. I think mine is from driving too much for work as this is when it gets the worst. I had this article stashed in my favorites from back in August when it bugged me the most:http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/traini...n_your_butt.htmNo running for me today (a rare scheduled "off" day), so I went and played basketball this morning, and I irritated my damn piriformis muscle again!
I don't know if any of you have ever had this, but it's literally a pain in the butt, and I think it starts with my tight hips. Called and got an appointment to see my PT friend at 10:30 this morning. I keep saying how I know I've got tight muscles and how I need to start stretching more, but maybe now I'll finally start listening to myself.
2-3 runs a week. 2x 4m runs midweek, where one is a tempo run and the other is either interval or hills. (8m total midweek)One Long run each of the last 10 weeks, which have been anywhere from 12-20m. I got 2x 20m and an 18m as my longest in that stretch. (20-28m total per week).My tempo runs are around 8:00 pace, give or take due to PTTS. 1/2m intervals I've hit 6:30 pace, but am usually around 7:15. The two 20m runs were 2:51 and 2:53 IIRC- 8:30ish pace. One of them felt great, the other not so much. The 14m run yesterday was at 8:10 pace and felt like I could go on forever (last two miles were sub 8s, but it was all only on the flats).In terms of muscle memory- two years ago (ok- elephant-like muscle memoryRemind me:Average weekly mileage over past two months?Length/number of long runs?Pacing of some runs (shorter and long)?
) I was doing about the same weekly mileage plus bike/swim. I PRed my 10k (38:53) and 1/2 marathon (1:32:41) back then as part of either a tri (oly) or bike-run-bike workout (rode to the race- 40m each way- and TTed back).But then there's the knee and the baby and the whole littany of PTTSs...I've got some time (a week and a half) before the expo when I sign up for the pace group- but I'd genuinely appreciate any thoughts on the matter from you guys.You *did* tell the guy that there will be SIX races in the series next year and perhaps SEVEN the year after, right?...although RoarinS might speak differently. His series actually sounded quite fun! RoarinS, early in yesterday's race we passed a band, and some guy mentioned it, so I got him excited about the RnR series that you did.While you're not running sub-4:00, you're making the races a neat experience and achieving something special with the RnR series, as attested by the medals for 'em all.
They're adding San Antonio Full/Half (inaugural race 11/2008), tho I'm not sure if it'll be included in the medal parade just yet (7th race TBD).I'll give ya the "neat" and "special" points. I look at an individual race, and it's 
. But I look at "*** ROCKSTAR SERIES ***" or "*** THE GOOFY CHALLENGE ***", and it's 
! I don't know what I'm going to do once I run out of these challenges. lol I suppose I'll have to make up my own. Maybe run all the "big city" races (depending on how they fit on the calendar) in the same year -- Boston (of course, qualifying notwithstanding), Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, etc. Maybe run a race in every state during my 50th year, leading up to my birthday. Who knows. lol Gotta keep it interesting and wacky.
Well, 12wks = 3mos, so that's about right.
I started training for PF Chang's (this past January) the previous October. I used the late-start TNT calendar, and probably started off too hard (hence the I-T problems later), whereas the regular TNT calendar actually started about the end of August.
And Darrin has a GREAT base going into it... seems really possible when you start doing all that advanced math and compute weeks into months.So... we're back where we started- Darrin's doing a marathon!!!!Well, 12wks = 3mos, so that's about right.
Comment: Less than 30 miles/week will create some challenges for the 26 mile race. Be more conservative with your pacing. [spring marathon, I had a number of 45-50 mile weeks; for yesterday, I only had 35-40 mile training weeks. Long runs were the same for both.]
Comment: So 8:30ish/mile gives some indication of pacing. A strong 14 mile run gives less of an indication. It might suggest a well-paced marathon, but the risk is it's not supported by a strong enough base.
Comment: No, that's mind memory, gb. From two years ago. It doesn't count and won't help you. Sorry.
Comment: All of which translate into the training limitations you've faced. So again, be more conservative with your pacing.I'd suggest the 9:00/mile pace group at best. If you stay at that pace, you're under 4:00 hours. That's a solid goal. Anything faster than that is risking a difficult race or injury reoccurrence. If you can pick it up near the end, great. "Those who can't do, teach."
I'm assuming you can hear the roar of the engines from your house when they are racing at DIS?
Oh yea. As a nascar fan it is great. One of my best runs this summer was my first 11 miler. I did it on the morning of the busch race and the crowds at 7am were great. [egofix] I actually had race fans cheering me on as I ran past. [/egofix]Rock Lonemilk said:
Hey Steve, my run tonight was 45:05, an 8:56 pace according to runlog.Rock Lonemilk said:
Good pace - must have been those little bursts you put in. Are you gonna run tomorrow?Hey Steve, my run tonight was 45:05, an 8:56 pace according to runlog.Rock Lonemilk said:
I am planning on it. V is closing tomorrow so I will be all alone. 5 pm-ish?Good pace - must have been those little bursts you put in. Are you gonna run tomorrow?Hey Steve, my run tonight was 45:05, an 8:56 pace according to runlog.Rock Lonemilk said:
Big Nascar fan. My 6 year old son will be dressing up as Tony Stewart for Halloween this year!
What was wrong with 15 seconds? Maybe it's 30 but I've never timed it...You know what's funny? Steve lives close to me. Here we are communicating over a message board.
Great, nice to see the mind control teaching start when they are young. The Daytona 5K last year was my first ever race, that wasn't to the fridge or buffet.
Well, I realized that I make my runs public and you don't very often. Saying close at least leaves it a little vague.What was wrong with 15 seconds? Maybe it's 30 but I've never timed it...You know what's funny? Steve lives close to me. Here we are communicating over a message board.
I just figured you guys were, um, you know, roommates.Well, I realized that I make my runs public and you don't very often. Saying close at least leaves it a little vague.What was wrong with 15 seconds? Maybe it's 30 but I've never timed it...You know what's funny? Steve lives close to me. Here we are communicating over a message board.
Ummm, NO. NTTAWWT.I just figured you guys were, um, you know, roommates.Well, I realized that I make my runs public and you don't very often. Saying close at least leaves it a little vague.What was wrong with 15 seconds? Maybe it's 30 but I've never timed it...You know what's funny? Steve lives close to me. Here we are communicating over a message board.
I think our wives may think there is something WWTUmmm, NO. NTTAWWT.I just figured you guys were, um, you know, roommates.Well, I realized that I make my runs public and you don't very often. Saying close at least leaves it a little vague.What was wrong with 15 seconds? Maybe it's 30 but I've never timed it...You know what's funny? Steve lives close to me. Here we are communicating over a message board.
Last results are out from yesterday, and this time it included my UW (Under Water) Mile when we ran under the Detroit River through the tunnel. I posted a 7:58, which was between miles 8 & 9. That's a damn fast (for me) mile that far into the race. Maybe you like running in the dark.
No doubtThat's a damn fast (for me) mile that far into the race. Maybe you like running in the dark.:( Last results are out from yesterday, and this time it included my UW (Under Water) Mile when we ran under the Detroit River through the tunnel. I posted a 7:58, which was between miles 8 & 9.
... the downhill mile, right?
You know, I dunnoNo doubtThat's a damn fast (for me) mile that far into the race. Maybe you like running in the dark.
the down hill from the Canada side did feel like forever, but we had to come up on the US side. I think I wanted out beacuse it was hotter than hell in there & I knew there was water on the other side (that and there was a photographer on the up hill and I think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera 
)
Wise up, brother - we ALL run faster below sea level.
You know, I dunnoNo doubtThat's a damn fast (for me) mile that far into the race. Maybe you like running in the dark.
I used to primp and preen (I'd carry an extra ice-soaked sponge just for it) before the finish of all my Tris... only because my first ever Tri, I had snot and Elizabethan levels of caked-on sweat covering my face in all the pics. Big dumb grin covered and hidden behind layers of all kinds of dried-out Precious Bodily Fluids- the damn wife didn't have the heart to tell me I looked like an extra from 28 Days Later.
pretty-boy- I'm right there with ya! .... Unless you have a poster sized print of yourself hanging right by your computer you are a mere amateur compared to DarrinI think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera)
Unless you have a poster sized print of yourself hanging right by your computer you are a mere amateur compared to DarrinI think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera
Unless you have a poster sized print of yourself hanging right by your computer you are a mere amateur compared to DarrinI think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera
Hey, you have just seen the ones framed and hanging. I have one rolled up that is 3x4. I am having trouble finding a frame for it.Unless you have a poster sized print of yourself hanging right by your computer you are a mere amateur compared to DarrinI think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera)
ok, but try and avoid the pics where I am fat and shirtless. Heck, the skinny and shirtless are mildly nauseating. April race on beachUnless you have a poster sized print of yourself hanging right by your computer you are a mere amateur compared to DarrinI think I am a bit of a ho when it comes to the camera
I won't follow any formal program for at least a couple months or more. Now's the time to keep the runs slow and easy, letting the aerobic capacity and muscles build and develop. If you don't already, it's good to keep a workout log to help keep yourself honest - you'll notice if you start to let too many days go by. As some have started to say, this is the time to do some cross-training or to use the off-season for strength work and flexibility training. That can be as simple as push-ups and sit-ups or a program of Pilates or yoga (see recent talk of the Yoga for Athletes tape).
This side of next Summer or next Fall/Winter?
