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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (7 Viewers)

A good week so far with four runs for 24 miles, including 8x30s uphill repeats yesterday. Took it really easy on 5 miles today with a long cooldown, and headed to my PT in a bit for a tune up. My IT band has been a little tight lately, so hopefully that will help.

I head up to Western States tomorrow morning. I'll stop at the finish in Auburn to pick up the runner I'll be crewing and pacing, and then we'll drive up to Squaw for registration and the pre-race meeting tomorrow afternoon. I'll be in full ultra fanboy mode again, I'm sure. Can't help it with a couple of dozen of the best MUT runners in the world around. On Saturday I'll be at the start at 5:00 AM, then meet him to crew at Robinson Flat (mile 30), Michigan Bluff (55), Foresthill (62), and then start pacing him probably sometime between 11:00 PM-3:00 AM at the Rucky Chucky river crossing at mile 78 and go to the finish. He initially said he just wanted to finish in 29-hours or so, but today he was mentioning possibly going for sub-24. But I have a feeling with the 100+ degree heat expected in the Canyons on Saturday that may be a bit too aggressive a goal. But we'll see! Either way, for runners and crews/pacers it's going to be a long day(s).

You can track the race, both the elites at the front and my runner in the mid-back of the pack at Ultralive.net - bib 383.
Where do you do your uphills at?
On Mt Burdell typically, up behind San Marin High School. Lately I've been running up Dwarf Oak Trail (trailhead behind the baseball diamond) up to San Andreas Fire Road and then doing my repeats on that, then running back down.

 
Sand said:
A good seat is way up on my list.... My ###/taint are still sore from Wednesday's ride. :no:
A few points here - decent bike shorts matter a lot. Get Body Glide (if you don't already) and use it. Make sure the seat is level.

Also, there is a transition period here. European cyclists call it "growing a seat" - you do have to get used to it. But I can say with 100% certainty that the wrong seat is torture and the right one is invisible (after you grow a seat).
Yep.

And it's sometimes not obvious what the best shorts or seat will be.

My seat looks uncomfortable, it's small and narrow but it has a slit for your boys to breathe. My best bike shorts have less padding than you'd expect, actually they're tri-shorts. It takes some trial and error to learn.

 
Sand said:
A good seat is way up on my list.... My ###/taint are still sore from Wednesday's ride. :no:
A few points here - decent bike shorts matter a lot. Get Body Glide (if you don't already) and use it. Make sure the seat is level.

Also, there is a transition period here. European cyclists call it "growing a seat" - you do have to get used to it. But I can say with 100% certainty that the wrong seat is torture and the right one is invisible (after you grow a seat).
Yep.

And it's sometimes not obvious what the best shorts or seat will be.

My seat looks uncomfortable, it's small and narrow but it has a slit for your boys to breathe. My best bike shorts have less padding than you'd expect, actually they're tri-shorts. It takes some trial and error to learn.
My brother made the same comment about his seat. It's got a little channel or whatever that he swears made a huge difference for him. I have some padded shorts from my dirt bike days. I may go dig them out for my next ride.
 
5.5 miles this morning - the last .25 in pouring rain. Yuck.
:hifive: I'm sure a lot of east coasters are going to get wet today. I lucked out and only got drizzled on. That storm is going to dump a lot of rain!
Rained a lot last night but not today.

35 miles stayed just under 140 for most of the ride. There are two 3-4 mile sections that are smooth and flat that I push a bit on (up to 150) which are just fun to push.

Looks like we'll be heading out on Wednesday, will be a struggle to get much training in while we're mid move. But I'll work some Short High Intensity Training in. Which should be perfect before my first sprint tri in 20 years.

 
5.5 miles this morning - the last .25 in pouring rain. Yuck.
:hifive: I'm sure a lot of east coasters are going to get wet today. I lucked out and only got drizzled on. That storm is going to dump a lot of rain!
I hate running Friday's after work, but after checking out the weather forecast I forced myself to slug through 8 tired miles last night. It's been pouring since the middle of the night and we have standing water in both our back and front yards so I'm happy with the decision now. Miserable hour plus last night though.

 
My runner is chasing the cutoffs, I should be seeing him again at mile 55 around 8:30, or 15 hours into the race. Unless I jump in early to try and get him moving, I'll start pacing him at mile 78 probably sometime after 3:00 AM, and get him to that finish before 30 hours is up at 11:00 AM tomorrow. Looks like I'm in for a long night!

Hot day with temps in the 90s early, quite a bit of carnage in the first half of the race among the elites. But defending champ Rob Krar is on course-record pace, and should be finishing up in the next 20-30 minutes. Beast mode!

 
My runner is chasing the cutoffs, I should be seeing him again at mile 55 around 8:30, or 15 hours into the race. Unless I jump in early to try and get him moving, I'll start pacing him at mile 78 probably sometime after 3:00 AM, and get him to that finish before 30 hours is up at 11:00 AM tomorrow. Looks like I'm in for a long night!

Hot day with temps in the 90s early, quite a bit of carnage in the first half of the race among the elites. But defending champ Rob Krar is on course-record pace, and should be finishing up in the next 20-30 minutes. Beast mode!
Following along and it looks like there are a handful just crushing it and then every one else struggling. Hope your boy makes it. You guys are just behind another guy I follow, Josh Holmes bib 224.

Keep Traviss focused and moving Duck!

 
My runner is chasing the cutoffs, I should be seeing him again at mile 55 around 8:30, or 15 hours into the race. Unless I jump in early to try and get him moving, I'll start pacing him at mile 78 probably sometime after 3:00 AM, and get him to that finish before 30 hours is up at 11:00 AM tomorrow. Looks like I'm in for a long night!

Hot day with temps in the 90s early, quite a bit of carnage in the first half of the race among the elites. But defending champ Rob Krar is on course-record pace, and should be finishing up in the next 20-30 minutes. Beast mode!
Following along and it looks like there are a handful just crushing it and then every one else struggling. Hope your boy makes it. You guys are just behind another guy I follow, Josh Holmes bib 224.

Keep Traviss focused and moving Duck!
Guy from here I know has made it through 53 miles. He seems to be hanging in mid pack.

Also, want to talk about beast mode? Our top cyclist from here just finished 7th in RAAM. First attempt at the the hardest race in the world and he finished near the top. Unreal.

 
Downers Grove 5 Miler Race Report

This is the fourth year in a row that I've run this event and it's the only 5 mile race I've ever run. My best was 32:03 set in 2013. That's my weakest PR from a McMillan calculator standpoint and that pace (6:24) is worse than my 10K PR pace (6:18). Part of the reason for that, though, is due to that fact that they weather has always been hot and/or humid and there are a lot of rolling hills to deal with -- not the easiest of races.

This year the weather was much better, 63 degrees, hardly any wind and not really humid. No clouds, though, and the full sun made it seem worse although the course goes through older suburban neighborhoods with enough mature trees to give some shade. My training has been pretty good this spring. I'm coming off three 5Ks this year that are my fastest three ever. I've also ran enough long tempos to know that I should be able to PR unless I run a stupid race and fall apart. I decided I'd try to run at a 6:10 pace or lower. I thought about the possibility of running sub 30 minutes and would be ecstatic to achieve that, but I felt that was likely a little faster than I could manage.

Even though this is a relatively small race (451 finishers this year) there is always a lot of competition. It's part of the Chicago Area Runners' Association (CARA) circuit and it usually brings in a decent size group of fast runners. Unlike my last few 5Ks when I was looking around at the start wondering who might be able to beat me, this time I saw tons of guys that I knew would!

Mile 1: 6:04/147 average HR

Not bad. I felt like I had to hold myself back and not go out too fast. There were 20 or so runners ahead of me. By the end of the mile I was settled in behind two female who were the female lead runners. (Sorry, no pics.)

Mile 2: 5:58/163

This mile was probably run too fast as I guess I was trying to keep up with the women. I remember judging my tiredness level near the end of this mile and I was worried. I wouldn't be able to keep this pace up.

Mile 3: 6:05/167

I slowed some and the women are reasonably far ahead now. Not that that really matters, I usually try just to worry about myself. I'm certainly tiring.

Mile 4: 6:10/169

Mile 5: 6:09/170 (plus another .03 on Garmin in about 7 seconds?)

There are a lot of rolling hills the last mile and the the uphill parts are really tough. I just try to fall into zombie mode and not think about anything, just keep on moving.

Final time 30:32. 23rd out of 451, 4th of 28 in AG.

To be honest, I feel weird about this race. I PRed and met my goal coming in but I still feel like I should have done better. Maybe it's because I finished 4th in the AG (disappointing) but also because my HR only got up to 172. That makes me think I didn't push myself hard enough even though it felt like I was.

 
Duck's boy DNF'd, missed a cutoff. The beard (Krar) repeated in 14:48. Unreal for that race.

Sand, that your boy is superhuman riding like 250 miles a day for months at a time? That's fantastic! How does one even go about qualifying for a race like that? There's not too many 3,000 mile testers that I'm aware of but arguably I don't follow the sport. And what's next after this? Race the Northern hemisphere?

 
Juxt - fantastic race with solid pacing! That's a great PR, so be happy. PR pickle: :pickle: And don't worry about being 4th - those CARA races, as you noted, bring out the best.

 
Unfortunately he missed the Foresthill (62) cutoff. I went about a mile out of the A/S when I knew he wouldn't make it to meet him and walk him in, but no running for me. I've been at the finish since (8 hours and counting) getting inspired by each and every one of those that have made it here. 60 or so runners still out there with about 90 minutes to go.

Big DNF rate this year, I think it's over 1/3 so far. Heat really got too people, especially up in the high country where it's usually pretty cool, so a lot of people were pretty cooked already about 30 miles in.

My friend Erika passed ultra legends and past winners Nikki Kimball, Pam Smith, and Meghan Arborhast to snag the 9th woman spot (top 10 get auto entry for next year). Huge result and such a smart race for her - she went from 129th place overall at mile 30 and climbed all the way up to 42nd overall, and ate up a 50+ minute deficit while passing several women after mile 62. So stoked for her.

What an event. My obsession deepens.....

 
Unfortunately he missed the Foresthill (62) cutoff. I went about a mile out of the A/S when I knew he wouldn't make it to meet him and walk him in, but no running for me. I've been at the finish since (8 hours and counting) getting inspired by each and every one of those that have made it here. 60 or so runners still out there with about 90 minutes to go.

Big DNF rate this year, I think it's over 1/3 so far. Heat really got too people, especially up in the high country where it's usually pretty cool, so a lot of people were pretty cooked already about 30 miles in.
My friend missed the cutoff at 70. He claimed it was unfair that the sweepers were using horses. :D

Said he overheated at about mile 47 and couldn't recover.


Sand, that your boy is superhuman riding like 250 miles a day for months at a time? That's fantastic! How does one even go about qualifying for a race like that? There's not too many 3,000 mile testers that I'm aware of but arguably I don't follow the sport. And what's next after this? Race the Northern hemisphere?
I believe the race entry is by application. He recently won the Heart of the South 500 (very close to the course record and I bet he gets it next year). So he had a pretty good resume to send in.

 
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SFBayDuck said:
Unfortunately he missed the Foresthill (62) cutoff. I went about a mile out of the A/S when I knew he wouldn't make it to meet him and walk him in, but no running for me. I've been at the finish since (8 hours and counting) getting inspired by each and every one of those that have made it here. 60 or so runners still out there with about 90 minutes to go.

Big DNF rate this year, I think it's over 1/3 so far. Heat really got too people, especially up in the high country where it's usually pretty cool, so a lot of people were pretty cooked already about 30 miles in.

My friend Erika passed ultra legends and past winners Nikki Kimball, Pam Smith, and Meghan Arborhast to snag the 9th woman spot (top 10 get auto entry for next year). Huge result and such a smart race for her - she went from 129th place overall at mile 30 and climbed all the way up to 42nd overall, and ate up a 50+ minute deficit while passing several women after mile 62. So stoked for her.

What an event. My obsession deepens.....
Dang it.

 
So a little WS runners pron for you, Gunhild Swanson crossing the finish line in a sprint to beat the 30hr cut off time by six seconds. Man what an inspiration!

http://youtu.be/wwTfP6i3ngQ

PS - she's 70
That was a sprint?

:P

That is the same as watching the 17 hour mark at ironmans. Much more excitement watching people beat the clock than watching the winners, IMO.

 
Great job Juxt! Really impressive time and it's really great to see all of your efforts from winter and spring are allowing you to demolish your past times at these familiar races. I'm in awe.

 
Great job, Jux! How many seconds were you away from the podium?

Also #teamgarmin :fistbump:
Thanks! Just 12 seconds from 3rd. I noticed the guy taking a few walking breaks during the last mile. I almost caught up to him twice but then he'd take off very fast. I had someone do the same thing and finish ahead of me in a half marathon a few years ago. It's the oddest thing to watch.

 
Great job, Jux! How many seconds were you away from the podium?

Also #teamgarmin :fistbump:
Thanks! Just 12 seconds from 3rd. I noticed the guy taking a few walking breaks during the last mile. I almost caught up to him twice but then he'd take off very fast. I had someone do the same thing and finish ahead of me in a half marathon a few years ago. It's the oddest thing to watch.
This is hard to wrap my mind around. As a mid-packer, I've seen lots of people take walking breaks during full marathons, some of whom finish ahead of me. But during a 5-miler? At that pace? I didn't even know that was possible.

 
Great job, Jux! How many seconds were you away from the podium?

Also #teamgarmin :fistbump:
Thanks! Just 12 seconds from 3rd. I noticed the guy taking a few walking breaks during the last mile. I almost caught up to him twice but then he'd take off very fast. I had someone do the same thing and finish ahead of me in a half marathon a few years ago. It's the oddest thing to watch.
Can't get my head around running 6 minute miles...with walking breaks.

Congratulations on the PR!!!!!

 
Great job, Jux! How many seconds were you away from the podium?

Also #teamgarmin :fistbump:
Thanks! Just 12 seconds from 3rd. I noticed the guy taking a few walking breaks during the last mile. I almost caught up to him twice but then he'd take off very fast. I had someone do the same thing and finish ahead of me in a half marathon a few years ago. It's the oddest thing to watch.
This is hard to wrap my mind around. As a mid-packer, I've seen lots of people take walking breaks during full marathons, some of whom finish ahead of me. But during a 5-miler? At that pace? I didn't even know that was possible.
I agree. I didn't see him until that last mile so he was pretty far ahead before then. I think I only saw him walk twice and maybe for at most 50 yards each time. Then he'd take off at what must have been about 5:30 pace.

 
So a little WS runners pron for you, Gunhild Swanson crossing the finish line in a sprint to beat the 30hr cut off time by six seconds. Man what an inspiration!

http://youtu.be/wwTfP6i3ngQ

PS - she's 70
Thanks for making me feel like a wimp. ;)

Really cool stuff.
I can't even come close to expressing how amazing this was to witness in person (I was a few feet to the right of whoever took this video). To be awake for 33 hour or so, as she also had, and to have witnessed what they had all been through for a day, a night, and another day, and having experienced it once myself - to see her come on to the track with 90 seconds to get 3/4 of the way around, after 100.1 miles....30 of us were at the entry to the track, and she ran in with Rob Krar (the winner who had finished 15 hours before) and a few others, and we're all yelling "Ninety seconds, you gotta go, you gotta go, go, go!" And she just gave it everything she had. I ran across the infield to the finish line to watch from that angle and everyone is going nuts. Another guy had come in 30 seconds before her, and the crowd of several hundred people are screaming for both of them to get around. He crosses with about 30 seconds to go, and behind him comes the first 70 year old woman with a chance to finish Western States, time running down.....and she does it with 6 seconds to spare. Six seconds to spare out of thirty hours to finish 100.2 miles. There was not a dry eye in the place. As one of the few 10-time Western States finishers standing nearby said to me, "that may be the greatest athletic accomplishment I've ever seen." I can't argue.....

That is a moment that will stay with me forever. Every time I think "I can't", I'll remember that, I'll remember her.

 
Had a good week of training last week. Starting to feel it...

Mon AM: 6mi recovery @ 9:05/136

Mon PM: 15.4mi bike @ 15mph - had fun; legs felt amazing.

Tue: 8/4 LT @ 6:41/170 - felt good, but humidity started to get to me at the end.

Wed AM: 13mi MLR @ 8:00/146 - felt really strong. Had to hold back from going faster.

Wed PM: 16.7mi bike @ 17.4mph

Thu AM: 6mi recovery @ 9:02/135 - Legs were so heavy. Probably over did it on Wednesday.

Thu PM: 4mi recovery @ 9:14/132 - Almost bagged it, but glad I didn't. Felt better after this run.

Fri: 10mi MLR @ 8:10/146

Sat: 18mi LR @ 8:10/145 - Best run of the week - so awesome.

Sun: 5mi recovery @ 9:05/130 - Legs were heavy, but energy was awesome.

70mi running / 32mi biking for the week

 
6 miles this morning, per mile splits of 8:26, 8:09, 8:11, 7:56, 7:42, 7:19 for an avg of 7:57, my 6th fastest 5-7 mile workout since I downloaded the Runkeeper app in late Dec. I'm at 40.9 miles in June (the hot June in St Louis has hurt my mileage since my main running times are weekends midday) after hitting an all time high of 64.4 in May.

I'm not sure how some of you guys do what you do mileage and time-wise, although I'm not sure I push myself hard enough. I think my 7:19 mile this morning was probably my best mile ever, and I wasn't winded or anything after it. Maybe I need to sack up a little. I should sign up for some races and see how I do when competing. I always just run in the park by myself with no real training plan... just winging it so I stay in shape and sleep better.
5 miles yesterday morning at 7:32 / mile or 37:39 total. 7:47; 7:31; 7:42; 7:38; 7:01.

 
6 miles this morning, per mile splits of 8:26, 8:09, 8:11, 7:56, 7:42, 7:19 for an avg of 7:57, my 6th fastest 5-7 mile workout since I downloaded the Runkeeper app in late Dec. I'm at 40.9 miles in June (the hot June in St Louis has hurt my mileage since my main running times are weekends midday) after hitting an all time high of 64.4 in May.

I'm not sure how some of you guys do what you do mileage and time-wise, although I'm not sure I push myself hard enough. I think my 7:19 mile this morning was probably my best mile ever, and I wasn't winded or anything after it. Maybe I need to sack up a little. I should sign up for some races and see how I do when competing. I always just run in the park by myself with no real training plan... just winging it so I stay in shape and sleep better.
5 miles yesterday morning at 7:32 / mile or 37:39 total. 7:47; 7:31; 7:42; 7:38; 7:01.
Did you sign up for a 5K yet?

 
6 miles this morning, per mile splits of 8:26, 8:09, 8:11, 7:56, 7:42, 7:19 for an avg of 7:57, my 6th fastest 5-7 mile workout since I downloaded the Runkeeper app in late Dec. I'm at 40.9 miles in June (the hot June in St Louis has hurt my mileage since my main running times are weekends midday) after hitting an all time high of 64.4 in May.

I'm not sure how some of you guys do what you do mileage and time-wise, although I'm not sure I push myself hard enough. I think my 7:19 mile this morning was probably my best mile ever, and I wasn't winded or anything after it. Maybe I need to sack up a little. I should sign up for some races and see how I do when competing. I always just run in the park by myself with no real training plan... just winging it so I stay in shape and sleep better.
5 miles yesterday morning at 7:32 / mile or 37:39 total. 7:47; 7:31; 7:42; 7:38; 7:01.
Did you sign up for a 5K yet?
Not yet, but I'll sign up for something...

 
6 miles this morning, per mile splits of 8:26, 8:09, 8:11, 7:56, 7:42, 7:19 for an avg of 7:57, my 6th fastest 5-7 mile workout since I downloaded the Runkeeper app in late Dec. I'm at 40.9 miles in June (the hot June in St Louis has hurt my mileage since my main running times are weekends midday) after hitting an all time high of 64.4 in May.

I'm not sure how some of you guys do what you do mileage and time-wise, although I'm not sure I push myself hard enough. I think my 7:19 mile this morning was probably my best mile ever, and I wasn't winded or anything after it. Maybe I need to sack up a little. I should sign up for some races and see how I do when competing. I always just run in the park by myself with no real training plan... just winging it so I stay in shape and sleep better.
5 miles yesterday morning at 7:32 / mile or 37:39 total. 7:47; 7:31; 7:42; 7:38; 7:01.
Did you sign up for a 5K yet?
Not yet, but I'll sign up for something...
I'd bet you can break 20 for a 5K.

 
6 miles this morning, per mile splits of 8:26, 8:09, 8:11, 7:56, 7:42, 7:19 for an avg of 7:57, my 6th fastest 5-7 mile workout since I downloaded the Runkeeper app in late Dec. I'm at 40.9 miles in June (the hot June in St Louis has hurt my mileage since my main running times are weekends midday) after hitting an all time high of 64.4 in May.

I'm not sure how some of you guys do what you do mileage and time-wise, although I'm not sure I push myself hard enough. I think my 7:19 mile this morning was probably my best mile ever, and I wasn't winded or anything after it. Maybe I need to sack up a little. I should sign up for some races and see how I do when competing. I always just run in the park by myself with no real training plan... just winging it so I stay in shape and sleep better.
5 miles yesterday morning at 7:32 / mile or 37:39 total. 7:47; 7:31; 7:42; 7:38; 7:01.
Did you sign up for a 5K yet?
Not yet, but I'll sign up for something...
I'd bet you can break 20 for a 5K.
6:26 pace seems a tad too optimistic based on that run, unless I'm missing something.

 
Trying to make a run at Boston sometime in 2016 for a 2017 entry. Any thoughts on optimal races? I know there are some flat ones out there but I'm looking for something enjoyable in terms of destination also. Grandma's is a little remote (I've heard it's nice though) and I've run Chicago three times and also St. George and Tucson.

Whatcha got out there for a fast and fun course?

 
Juxtatarot said:
Downers Grove 5 Miler Race Report

Final time 30:32. 23rd out of 451, 4th of 28 in AG.
Finally sat dow in front of my computer to read this - damn dude! Congrats Juxt.

Had a good week of training last week. Starting to feel it...

70mi running / 32mi biking for the week
Very solid! I'd love to be able to get in 70 miles in a week, and probably should try to up my mileage a bit in the early fall into that range in my build into my next race. To do that and get in some good cross training is a great week.

 

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