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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

Going to be a challenging weekend for running as we'll be heading out to Louisville for indoor archery nationals on Friday.  I'm going to make sure I get out for some sort of running, but not sure what I'll be able to get in quality wise.  I've had a very streaky archery season - won the NJ state championship and then quickly 'lost my shot' (think a golfer losing his swing).  I'm finding it again and hope I'll be able to keep the stroke going during nationals.  

My wife in particular has been on a hot streak (she also won NJ states).  To be performing like she is with just 2yrs under her belt is incredible. She always seems to step up on the big stages, so I'm especially excited to see her shoot this weekend.  :wub:  

 
Perfect!  Boston waves/corrals were just released.  I've been nervous, having not heard back about their acceptance of my Houston marathon time improvement.  The great news is that they did use that time, and as a result, I've landed in Wave 3, Corral 1.  Theoretically, there will be about a 3 1/2 minute gap from the end of wave 2.  (gruecd or others, does that actually work out?)  As a result of all this, (a) I'll be starting with runners in my desired pace range, and (b) we should have a bit of open road to work with instead of very crowded first miles. 

:thumbup: :boxing:
That's awesome Tri!

As for me, beggars can't be choosers...back of the bus: wave 4 corral 7. You'll be showered and a few beers deep when I finish. Looking forward to running as a qualifier some day!

 
FUBAR said:
:lol:

You have better hills.  We rode about the same distance but you get twice the elevation. 
80-100'/mile is pretty typical here.  That particular route is flatter than most others.  If I start a ride out from my house I climb 450' in 2.5 miles to get out of the neighborhood.

 
80-100'/mile is pretty typical here.  That particular route is flatter than most others.  If I start a ride out from my house I climb 450' in 2.5 miles to get out of the neighborhood.
Nice.  I can get similar hills if I drive 20 miles east, but I don't like driving to ride. 

 
Ned said:
Going to be a challenging weekend for running as we'll be heading out to Louisville for indoor archery nationals on Friday.  I'm going to make sure I get out for some sort of running, but not sure what I'll be able to get in quality wise.  I've had a very streaky archery season - won the NJ state championship and then quickly 'lost my shot' (think a golfer losing his swing).  I'm finding it again and hope I'll be able to keep the stroke going during nationals.  

My wife in particular has been on a hot streak (she also won NJ states).  To be performing like she is with just 2yrs under her belt is incredible. She always seems to step up on the big stages, so I'm especially excited to see her shoot this weekend.  :wub:  
Now that is awesome.  

 
Holy crap!  I disappear from the thread for a few days and I miss some epic stuff.  Congrats all around.  I just used up a year's worth of Likes. 

 
Submitted my application for the Chicago marathon lottery. If selected, I'm committed, since they charge the cc right away. Should find out on April 12th.

Been a great vacation here in Florida. Have run the last 3 days, and lots of beach time and some gulf fishing today. Tomorrow is an Everglades tour complete with wildlife fun.

Booyah!

 
Boo. I've been running good since the start of the year, getting faster and building up for my race on the 3rd. Then last weekend my Achilles was pretty sore after my Saturday run. Decided to go ahead with my Sunday long run, but committed to bailing at the first sign of trouble. Sure enough, in less than a mile is was aching good. Normally at this point I would power through a slight injury, but this is the same Achilles that I had a complete tear in five years ago. I bailed.

I went ahead and bought an Achilles brace to try to get back on the road. Tried it for the first time tonight, slow and short, and so far so good. I'll try to stretch a bit more tomorrow night and if the pain stays away, it's back on track this weekend. I'm worried about missing any more long runs and just dragging my butt through the race but frankly I'm more worried about ending up back under the knife.

Sucks.

 
Boo. I've been running good since the start of the year, getting faster and building up for my race on the 3rd. Then last weekend my Achilles was pretty sore after my Saturday run. Decided to go ahead with my Sunday long run, but committed to bailing at the first sign of trouble. Sure enough, in less than a mile is was aching good. Normally at this point I would power through a slight injury, but this is the same Achilles that I had a complete tear in five years ago. I bailed.

I went ahead and bought an Achilles brace to try to get back on the road. Tried it for the first time tonight, slow and short, and so far so good. I'll try to stretch a bit more tomorrow night and if the pain stays away, it's back on track this weekend. I'm worried about missing any more long runs and just dragging my butt through the race but frankly I'm more worried about ending up back under the knife.

Sucks.
Do you have compression socks?  Try wearing them for recovery (I sleep in mine a lot).  Most times, achilles issues are due to tight calves.  Get yourself the stick too if you don't have one.  

 
Do you prefer the stick or foam roller?  Or does the stick serve enough of a difference to add that to your routine? 
I think the stick is a lot better for calves since you can really focus the pressure.  When using the foam roller, there isn't much weight being applied when you get to the soleus/achilles area.  Whereas with the stick, you can get in there as much as you want.  Big fan.

 
First timer here and have learned a lot from you all - very impressive bunch in here. 

Any tips for socks/shoes for rainy conditions?  I'm slated for my 1st half marathon Sunday and weather is not likely to be good in Maryland.  

If it helps I'm a longtime non-runner who has completed a couple 10k and marathon relay legs in the past year, 8:30-9:00 pace sort of guy.

Thanks for the motivation all. 

 
First timer here and have learned a lot from you all - very impressive bunch in here. 

Any tips for socks/shoes for rainy conditions?  I'm slated for my 1st half marathon Sunday and weather is not likely to be good in Maryland.  

If it helps I'm a longtime non-runner who has completed a couple 10k and marathon relay legs in the past year, 8:30-9:00 pace sort of guy.

Thanks for the motivation all. 
Its too late to try a different shoe, IMO.  I'd go to your local running store and check out some synthetic socks.  Cotton socks are a death sentence when your feet get wet.

Make sure you body glide everything.  Feet, groin, arm pits, etc.  Anything that can possibly chafe is probably going to chafe in heavy rain.

 
Good luck at nationals Ned.  Shoot me your e-mail addy some time.  I've got a picture of these color phase turkey mount that came back last week.

 
Do you have compression socks?  Try wearing them for recovery (I sleep in mine a lot).  Most times, achilles issues are due to tight calves.  Get yourself the stick too if you don't have one.  


No compression socks. Do you wear them during running as well or just during down times?

And I was looking at a roller on Amazon yesterday but didn't pull the trigger (I've been getting daily shipments of running gear lately). But the stick is the better option for Achilles? I'll have to do some more research on it.

 
No compression socks. Do you wear them during running as well or just during down times?

And I was looking at a roller on Amazon yesterday but didn't pull the trigger (I've been getting daily shipments of running gear lately). But the stick is the better option for Achilles? I'll have to do some more research on it.
Some guys wear them during running, but I just wear them for recovery.  I like to sleep in mine a lot!

I've found the stick is the best option, in my experience.

:lol: at the bolded.  Welcome to the family!

 
@igbomb I agree with Ned. My achilles has been giving some problems this past year and for the most part, it's because my calf is really sore and tight. A week of foam rolling and the irritation usually subsides. I also recommend using a heel lock lacing technique. My achilles feels better when it's not moving around in the shoe too much.



 
Its too late to try a different shoe, IMO.  I'd go to your local running store and check out some synthetic socks.  Cotton socks are a death sentence when your feet get wet.

Make sure you body glide everything.  Feet, groin, arm pits, etc.  Anything that can possibly chafe is probably going to chafe in heavy rain.
Thanks @Ned - much appreciated. 

 
I was attacked by a goose this morning that I suspect was guarding a nest. I really hate breeding season.
Replace goose with redneck and welcome to Alabama. ;)

Thinking back to our discussion on how perspectives change over time, this morning I warmed up for 6 minutes, did 48 tempo and then cool down for 6. During the tempo I was surprised at how hard it actually was to keep my hr in the 160s. (Roughly PE8) Before doing MAF that would have been my usual hr at a moderate effort, about a minute slower than today.  

 
Replace goose with redneck and welcome to Alabama. ;)

Thinking back to our discussion on how perspectives change over time, this morning I warmed up for 6 minutes, did 48 tempo and then cool down for 6. During the tempo I was surprised at how hard it actually was to keep my hr in the 160s. (Roughly PE8) Before doing MAF that would have been my usual hr at a moderate effort, about a minute slower than today.  
I've also noticed large differences in perceived effort vs. heart rate over the last few years.  It's one of the big reasons why I don't train or race by heart rate any more.  

 
I've also noticed large differences in perceived effort vs. heart rate over the last few years. It's one of the big reasons why I don't train or race by heart rate any more.  
I'm on the fence on this point.  As mentioned before, at higher rates / PE, I've been going by PE. But I'm transitioning to hr for a few months to see what happens.  Might not be the ideal time to do it as we near summer but I figure it's worth trying. 

 
It's becoming very difficult to stay motivated for this half marathon. The cold I've got is seems to be lingering and the weather this weekend looks like #### on a stick. Based on the course and the wind direction, looks like I'll be fighting rain and a 20+ MPH headwind for around 9 miles or so. Ugh... what's the point.

 
It's becoming very difficult to stay motivated for this half marathon. The cold I've got is seems to be lingering and the weather this weekend looks like #### on a stick. Based on the course and the wind direction, looks like I'll be fighting rain and a 20+ MPH headwind for around 9 miles or so. Ugh... what's the point.
I seem to remember a certain someone <cough>Hang10</cough> telling me to HTFU when I was #####ing about the winds during one of my HM's.  It still to this day is one of the best performances I've ever laid down.  You got this, man.  

Can't believe I found this...

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I seem to remember a certain someone <cough>Hang10</cough> telling me to HTFU when I was #####ing about the winds during one of my HM's.  It still to this day is one of the best performances I've ever laid down.  You got this, man.  

Can't believe I found this...

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Dammit, using my words against me?  Uncool.  :P

 
igbomb - I always wear compression socks when I run.  Makes for bad tan lines, but I love them.  I also wear throughout the day after really hard workouts (and occasionally overnight, if needed).

bushdocda - As mentioned, don't wear cotton socks, and lube up to some degree.  But otherwise, don't worry about it.  If your shoes are at all porous, the water will find its way out. 

juxt - Too funny about the goose!

Note to self: If feeling sluggish and slow and dehydrated on a morning 13 miler, that's probably because of the blood plasma donation the afternoon before.

I'm still obsessing (positively) about the Boston corral.  It strikes me that my corral will have several minutes of open road ahead of us, and thinking that through, it will be a number of miles before we hit much "traffic."  Since I plan to start quite a bit faster than our corral's pace (7:40 vs. 7:59 or higher), I hope to get clear of a lot of the corral blockage.  That will especially help in running tangents, which is otherwise rather impossible at Boston, and that will save a minute or more that I'd otherwise lose.  :sopsyched:

 
FUBAR said:
I'm on the fence on this point.  As mentioned before, at higher rates / PE, I've been going by PE. But I'm transitioning to hr for a few months to see what happens.  Might not be the ideal time to do it as we near summer but I figure it's worth trying. 
I don't want to be a tease (especially to HR aficionados like  @Ned) , but I just ordered a Garmin 235 a couple of days ago and it should be here either this weekend or early next week. One of the main reasons why I don't train with a HR monitor is because I hate the chest straps, and also because when I run workouts and races I really would like to minimize weight in whatever way possible. The reason I am giving this thing a shot is because of the wrist-HR monitor feature. (which I hear can be flaky at times though, but will also hopefully become more reliable with additional software updates).

 
I don't want to be a tease (especially to HR aficionados like  @Ned) , but I just ordered a Garmin 235 a couple of days ago and it should be here either this weekend or early next week. One of the main reasons why I don't train with a HR monitor is because I hate the chest straps, and also because when I run workouts and races I really would like to minimize weight in whatever way possible. The reason I am giving this thing a shot is because of the wrist-HR monitor feature. (which I hear can be flaky at times though, but will also hopefully become more reliable with additional software updates).
You just got @Ned as hard as a diamond in an ice storm. 

 
Woot! Achilles still felt good this evening so I just went out for a nice easy run in the dark. Four exhilarating miles at a good clip. Felt fantastic and I stopped obsessing over my Achilles for the first time in days. Lets see how I feel tomorrow, but I'm feeling optimistic that I'm past this one.

But I'll definitely be looking to get some compression socks. I should probably have them delivered to another address though.

 
@tri-man 47 and others - Is there a specific brand or style of compression socks that stand out? With a lot of my issues being Achilles or calf soreness / tightness, these sound like they may be tailor-made for me. 

 
22 hours ago, Hang 10 said:

@igbomb I agree with Ned. My achilles has been giving some problems this past year and for the most part, it's because my calf is really sore and tight. A week of foam rolling and the irritation usually subsides. I also recommend using a heel lock lacing technique. My achilles feels better when it's not moving around in the shoe too much.

Wow, I've never heard of this! This thread is invaluable.

 
I think the stick is a lot better for calves since you can really focus the pressure.  When using the foam roller, there isn't much weight being applied when you get to the soleus/achilles area.  Whereas with the stick, you can get in there as much as you want.  Big fan.
I know I posted this before but it's buried in the archived thread somewhere.  Here's a quick review of some of the tools I use, some of which are expensive and others that are super cheap or you probably have on hand:

  • Foam roller - good for large muscle groups where you can get a lot of weight above it (hips, glutes, quads, hammies).  There are all kinds, and I've even seen people use large pvc pipe.
  • Lacrosse ball to really target the knots, especially in the calves, as well as the plantar fascia.  Tennis ball is the entry level version.
  • A metal water bottle for the calves and right above the achilles (cross my other leg over the top to get more weight on it).  I use more of a rocking back and forth motion while slowly moving up and down the lower calf
  • Massage stick, I have several but prefer this one for the calves, and a more basic one for a portable quads/IT option
  • The Roll Recovery is awesome for IT and quads, but I'll use it on my calves a bit as well.  Just found this video recently and will be focusing more on using this to help with my achilles rehab.
  • The Thera Cane is great for knots in the shoulders and back.  We bought one for my girlfriend who has issues with that, but I find myself using it regularly.
  • My massage therapist gave me a Trigger Point NANO Foot Roller for xmas, and that thing is awesome for the plantar fascia, even just at the end of a long day on your feet not running.
  • I haven't been in a little while, but I do see a chiropractor for Graston Therapy.  That regularly makes me cry.  He also tried to get me to buy some compression boots, but even at the deal he found they were $600 and that's a little much even for me.....for now.
  • @tri-man 47's favorite, compression socks.  I wear sleeves (calf panties) when I run long, and do have a pair of 2XU socks for recovery, driving home after races, long plane rides, etc.
"Take up running," they said.  "All you need is a pair of shoes," they said.......

 
I don't want to be a tease (especially to HR aficionados like  @Ned) , but I just ordered a Garmin 235 a couple of days ago and it should be here either this weekend or early next week. One of the main reasons why I don't train with a HR monitor is because I hate the chest straps, and also because when I run workouts and races I really would like to minimize weight in whatever way possible. The reason I am giving this thing a shot is because of the wrist-HR monitor feature. (which I hear can be flaky at times though, but will also hopefully become more reliable with additional software updates).
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on the Garmin Fenix 3 HR, which has the wrist sensor as well.  This thing looks amazing, and 50 hour battery life (with GPS), barometric altimeter, daily HR tracking, texts showing up on the watch, etc, make it seem like such a cool new toy.

 
Question about shoes for the experts:

I've been running for about two years.  Early on I chose the Brooks Adrenaline and have been with it ever since and it has been a great shoe for me.  I started with the 13, then the 14, and most recently the 16.  I bought the 16 in the middle of winter and have run almost exclusively on the treadmill.  The weather has been warm enough over the past four weeks to start running outside, leading up to the first 5K of the season this morning.

I told you all that to tell you this...Since beginning to run outside the past four weeks, I have rolled the same ankle twine (including this morning during the race :hot:  ).  My wife says that she has heard of people having issues with shoes that have "too soft of a cushion" causing issues for people.  She says that other people have told her that they have had to switch shoes after a new model of the same show came out, because they changed it.  Has anyone ever heard of this?  Could this be what I am experiencing?  Of course, I realize that I could also just be having a run of bad luck.

Thanks guys.  I always appreciate the advice in this thread.  Happy running!

 
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My shoe girl really is a God send. I never have to think about shoes, she does the thinking for me. I guess I'm not going to answer your question unless an acceptable answer is to go find someone that knows runner's feet.

 
I did a nice trail run today. I ran up and down Blackett's ridge in Sabino Canyon. It is pretty much straight up, I am guessing about 1,650 feet in under 2 miles. I then ran the telephone line trail which had more elevation. I had a total of 3,572 feet in elevation today. Overall a great run and I have to say trail running girls in sports bras and spandex shorts are the best. I just wish they were not so fast so I could maintain my view for a bit. Other then that the highlight of the run was that I finally saw a gilamonster out in the wild. I have lived here since 1989 and this is the first time I saw a live one out of captivity. It was something I have always wanted to check off my list and there it was when I least expected it. If you guys are looking at this on Strava I turned my watch off on the road back as I bumped into some friends and finished by walking back with them. That is why the map looks weird.

 
My shoe girl really is a God send. I never have to think about shoes, she does the thinking for me. I guess I'm not going to answer your question unless an acceptable answer is to go find someone that knows runner's feet.
That's an acceptable answer.  We recently moved into a new house in a new town with two new running shoe stores.  I've been into one, but only to get a pair of the shoes that have been working.  Maybe I need to get reevaluated.

 
Speaking of shoes, I really like my new altra provision 2s, but they are horrible for my toes.  I'll probably have to either get rid of them or just walk in them.  Every time I run in them my 2nd and 3rd toes feel like they're broken. 

 
Question about shoes for the experts:

I've been running for about two years.  Early on I chose the Brooks Adrenaline and have been with it ever since and it has been a great shoe for me.  I started with the 13, then the 14, and most recently the 16.  I bought the 16 in the middle of winter and have run almost exclusively on the treadmill.  The weather has been warm enough over the past four weeks to start running outside, leading up to the first 5K of the season this morning.

I told you all that to tell you this...Since beginning to run outside the past four weeks, I have rolled the same ankle twine (including this morning during the race :hot:  ).  My wife says that she has heard of people having issues with shoes that have "too soft of a cushion" causing issues for people.  She says that other people have told her that they have had to switch shoes after a new model of the same show came out, because they changed it.  Has anyone ever heard of this?  Could this be what I am experiencing?  Of course, I realize that I could also just be having a run of bad luck.

Thanks guys.  I always appreciate the advice in this thread.  Happy running!


My guess is it's not the shoes but operator error.  Perhaps you're not adjusted to running outside yet with turning, the camber of the road, etc.  That said, as Mac suggested, it never hurts to talk things over with a professional.

 
Good start to my abbreviated training block for Canyons 100K this week.  It's all about building up time on my feet, power hiking climbs, and three hard downhill workouts to condition the quads spread two weeks apart.  This week I met my goals of 7 hours (7:12), 3,000' of vert (4,052') and first downhill session.  Quads are totally sore today, so I know I did that workout hard enough yesterday.  

Next week shooting for 8 hours and another 4,000' of vert.  Plan is to build up to a peak week four weeks out from the race with 10+ hours (with a 4-5 hr long effort) and 7,000' of climbing.

 
Monday - possibly the slowest 5 miles I've ever ran. I was beat.

Tuesday - strength trained over lunch, ran to my sons track practice (2 mile warm up) then did a 3 mile progression run on the track.

Wednesday - another 5 recovery miles, little fast though.

Thursday - left work at noon, strength trained, then celebrated the holiday.

Friday - Had friends over for the afternoon slate then walked across the street for the night games. I have no idea how many beers were drank. Fun day. No running.

Saturday - while more beer and basketball was on the agenda for night I needed to get my good run in for the week. It was a success. 9 hilly miles around 8 minute pace, finished strong. Met some friends training for a 100 mile race and did 3 one mile laps easy with them. Then pushed the final 4 back to the park - I wanted closer to a 7 minute pace, but fried food and beer probably contributed to floating between 7 and 7:45 instead. Still, most miles I've ran in more than a decade.

Today - 4 easy miles with strength training in the middle.

It's weird typing just 35 miles for the week. That used to be a lot. I am tired, but feel physically fresh. Starting another tougher short cycle tomorrow...

 
Shamrock Half Marathon

I had high hopes for this race starting this training cycle and the more I trained the more it felt like confirmation of those hopes. My fitness improved and my goal of 1:25:** seemed pretty realistic...to me anyway. But when we start making time goals I guess we go in hoping for optimal conditions...yesterday was NOT optimal. Remember when I said the forecast was for 20mph winds and rain but I said it would have to get better? It didn't. 

Yesterday was by far the most challenging conditions I've ever experienced starting a race. I was praying for the rain to hold off at least until after I got my warm-up in. It didn't. We get down to the oceanfront about an hour before the start and right when we arrive, the sky opens up. Big rain drops. Temps in the low to mid 40s, wind and rain. Beautiful. Start my warm-up and it's just pure misery. Driving rain and before I've done a mile my rain jacket, track pants and shoes are soaked. Cut my warm-up a bit short and head over to the corral...I mean, I'm not really getting "warm".  The gun is about to go off and I strip off all my wet layers and hand my wife a nice soaking ball of clothes. I'm thinking I'm probably under dressed, wearing a singlet, shorts and a trashbag.

The gun sounds and we're off. The first 3 miles of the race we head straight into the teeth of the wind and rain. This SUCKED. I'm wearing a visor to keep the rain out of my eyes but the rain is coming in horizontal at times. I try to find a pack of runners to block the wind and pace behind but this proves more challenging then I'd hope. Just when I'm ready to settle in, I check my watch and the pack I've chosen is too slow. So then I have to dart around them and surge through the wind to next group. I think I did this 3 times. I'm starting to think that time goals should be out the window and I should just try to salvage the best effort I can. I average about 6:41 (175-181bpm) through this stretch. 

Miles 3-6 we head west and we have a little reprieve from the wind but the rain is still a nuisance. I ditch the trashbag. I started to pick up the pace slightly but I'm honestly not feeling that great.  My legs are decent but it feels like I'm pressing. Maybe it was fighting wind early. Maybe it was this cold I've been dealing with. In either case, I just try to keep grinding. 6:39, 6:40 & 6:34 (179 ish) The last split was encouraging though.

Miles 7-9 heads NE back into the wind and around Cape Henry in Virginia Beach. I'm tiring and in no mood to battle this wind...but the rain has let up Worse yet, the field is spreading out. I'm not going have many options for drafting partners. There's one group about 20 seconds ahead but I'm pretty sure trying to catch them will kill me. I'll do it alone I guess. My next split feels like crap but is quicker than expected. 6:38(180) This is encouraging. One more mile into the wind and the last 5 should have a nice tailwind. I'm just trying to tuck behind anyone I can at this point. Just survive mile 7...it feels like it takes forever. 6:45(182)...Hey, that wasn't SO bad. I feel the wind shift to a cross wind as we head past the lighthouse. Go time. Well, it should be if you have any juice left to go. I've got a little. 6:33 (181)

Miles 9-12 we head back to resort area. Typically this stretch would be full of spectators...not this day. I don't blame them. So once again, I find myself in no mans land by myself. Keep pushing. 6:35 (181) I'm starting to do the math and while 1:25 is long gone, if I keep it up, I may have a chance at a PR (1:26:51). This is enough motivation to keep it going. 6:32 (183) Around 11.5 I finally catch a woman in front of me (6 on the offdee scale). I tell her good job and she's surprisingly chatty for this point in the race. She then proceeds to tell me that she had a baby 4 months ago  :shock: . I ask her if she's trying to make me feel worse. Sheesh. At this point, a guy passes us and tells the chick that 2 girls are coming behind us and are working together. I hear them...I'm about to chicked X 2. I look down and my right nipple is leaking blood. NOW I'm hurtin. 6:33 (184)

Mile 12-finish we turn down the resort strip and onto the boardwalk. I'm running on fumes but at least I have a harem of women to keep me company. At that point I start to notice my upchuck reflex starting to make an appearance. Get it together man. Just don't throw up on yourself. Cruising down the boardwalk and hearing the cheers is helping. 6:28 (187) I sprint in, leave mommy dearest and pass another chick on the way to the finish. .1 @ 5:43 pace (186) As soon as I hit the timing mat, I feel the reflux in my throat. I find the nearest trashcan and totally lose my breakfast. 1:26:45...a 6 second PR.

I think the take away once again is to keep your head in the game. I had chances to pack it in and if I had ever hesitated, that 6 seconds could have been lost. Considering the conditions and how I felt earlier in the week, I'm stoked to earn a PR. They sure aren't getting easier these days. 

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Way to go Hang10 :thumbup: Very impressive to do that in those conditions. Great report as well, the suspense as I was reading that was killing me. Glad it ended well.

 
Probably the wrong place for this but my right knee is killing me. I was doing some spring time tree trimming yesterday. I was wearing jeans as I knew it would be thorny. At one point I felt a mesquite thorn get through the jeans and poke my skin next to my right knee. It really hurt but I manned up and stayed the course. After about 1 hour it was really bugging me so I go in the house, take off my jeans and I see a thorn is still in my leg just lateral to the knee. I pull the thorn out and it was fairly long.  I went back to tree trimming. As day went on my knee got worse. I now have a bump where the thorn was and I can barely bend the knee. I am not sure what is up but I am a little worried.

 
My guess is it's not the shoes but operator error.  Perhaps you're not adjusted to running outside yet with turning, the camber of the road, etc.  That said, as Mac suggested, it never hurts to talk things over with a professional.
No way it could be me!  I run with the perfection and precision of a cheetah!

Thanks for the advice guys.  I'll probably check in with a professional sometime soon.

 

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