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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

impressive ride by our "non-sprinter" just south of here. 

How do you get intensity measured on Strava?  I assume that's a premium feature but how does it work?

 
Met up with the November Project gang this morning for some hugs and their weekly hills workout in Brookline. Hugs were nice, the run was brutal. Four miles of three repeats over a hill, down the other side, and back up again. It was PR day, which they do monthly, where everyone tries to beat their best time. Must have been close to 200 people out there at 6:30am. It was my first go at it, 32:19 @ 8:07 with 834' of elevation. Actually puked at end. Girl I work with ran a 30:19 which is the Strava CR.

I have to say this group is damn motivating, not a run I would ever get myself to do on my own. I'll try to be a regular at this Friday thing. For the week I've only run 25 miles but with 2,350' of elevation. Previous PR a couple of weeks ago was 2,200' over 50 miles. Since a month ago deciding to get after the hills more I've become obsessed with elevation, whereas I only cared about speed before. Will be curious to see the effect on race times. 

 
Finally got back out for a quick 1mi hammy test after 2 weeks last night. Felt good. VERY mild soreness in the hammy this AM but I think i'm good. Going out Sat or Sun morning for a bit longer (2-3mi) to see how it responds. Assuming it's good, then I'm back in the game. Kickball/softball are on hold till after the St Jude Half... no more setbacks for stupid ####. 

Jesus it's sucked not being able to run, and I'm not near the addict you guys are. I don't see how you guys deal with it when you're hurt.   :(  


 

 
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Met up with the November Project gang this morning for some hugs and their weekly hills workout in Brookline. Hugs were nice, the run was brutal. Four miles of three repeats over a hill, down the other side, and back up again. It was PR day, which they do monthly, where everyone tries to beat their best time. Must have been close to 200 people out there at 6:30am. It was my first go at it, 32:19 @ 8:07 with 834' of elevation. Actually puked at end. Girl I work with ran a 30:19 which is the Strava CR.
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Met up with the November Project gang this morning for some hugs and their weekly hills workout in Brookline. Hugs were nice, the run was brutal. Four miles of three repeats over a hill, down the other side, and back up again. It was PR day, which they do monthly, where everyone tries to beat their best time. Must have been close to 200 people out there at 6:30am. It was my first go at it, 32:19 @ 8:07 with 834' of elevation. Actually puked at end. Girl I work with ran a 30:19 which is the Strava CR.

I have to say this group is damn motivating, not a run I would ever get myself to do on my own. I'll try to be a regular at this Friday thing. For the week I've only run 25 miles but with 2,350' of elevation. Previous PR a couple of weeks ago was 2,200' over 50 miles. Since a month ago deciding to get after the hills more I've become obsessed with elevation, whereas I only cared about speed before. Will be curious to see the effect on race times. 
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Well I ended up signing up for a 50K last minute to get a supported long run in the books this past weekend on the 2nd.  The race was at Afton Alps, a local ski resort in MN.  It's a 25K loop course with about 4600 total elevation gain.  Decent hill training, but nothing too brutal.  I couldn't decide between treating it as a slow 100 mile training run or just running it and going with the flow.  Of course it ended up closer to the latter than the former, but I definitely wasn't racing anyone.  I ran the first loop a bit too fast, and slowed by about 15-20 minutes on the second.  That fatigue coupled with the rising sun heating up the exposed parts of the course led me down the path of not particularly enjoying the last couple hours, which I think was great mental training.   Finished the run in 5:37, which I was content with.  As it was only the 2nd time I've run at that specific distance (the first being my first ever ultra distance run), that time ended up being a PR by about 19 minutes.  

Recovery seemed to go well, which led me into my first wakeboarding run of the year on the 4th.   That led me to the ER with what I was certain were fractured ribs, following a debacle of a rotation trick.  I was so discouraged on the drive to the ER.  Not because I might've hurt myself, but because of what fractured ribs would mean to my training and ultimately what was to be my first 100 mile attempt in ten weeks.  Long story short is that I'm a ninny, which I guess I knew, as x-rays and ultrasound came back normal.  Just a "chest contusion" per the ER doc, one which "should start feeling better tomorrow" but that still hurts like a mother after four days and especially so when lying down.   I've got back to back long runs planned for this weekend and really need to hammer the next seven weeks, so I'm still going to give them a go and see how it feels. 

tldr:  I ran a 50K and I'm now too old to be wakeboarding

 
Well I ended up signing up for a 50K last minute to get a supported long run in the books this past weekend on the 2nd.  The race was at Afton Alps, a local ski resort in MN.  It's a 25K loop course with about 4600 total elevation gain.  Decent hill training, but nothing too brutal.  I couldn't decide between treating it as a slow 100 mile training run or just running it and going with the flow.  Of course it ended up closer to the latter than the former, but I definitely wasn't racing anyone.  I ran the first loop a bit too fast, and slowed by about 15-20 minutes on the second.  That fatigue coupled with the rising sun heating up the exposed parts of the course led me down the path of not particularly enjoying the last couple hours, which I think was great mental training.   Finished the run in 5:37, which I was content with.  As it was only the 2nd time I've run at that specific distance (the first being my first ever ultra distance run), that time ended up being a PR by about 19 minutes.  

Recovery seemed to go well, which led me into my first wakeboarding run of the year on the 4th.   That led me to the ER with what I was certain were fractured ribs, following a debacle of a rotation trick.  I was so discouraged on the drive to the ER.  Not because I might've hurt myself, but because of what fractured ribs would mean to my training and ultimately what was to be my first 100 mile attempt in ten weeks.  Long story short is that I'm a ninny, which I guess I knew, as x-rays and ultrasound came back normal.  Just a "chest contusion" per the ER doc, one which "should start feeling better tomorrow" but that still hurts like a mother after four days and especially so when lying down.   I've got back to back long runs planned for this weekend and really need to hammer the next seven weeks, so I'm still going to give them a go and see how it feels. 

tldr:  I ran a 50K and I'm now too old to be wakeboarding
I was going to ask you how training was going for you.  Nicely done on the 50K!  Not so much on the wakeboarding.  Glad it wasn't worse and hope you can keep up the good training.

 
Can't believe I almost forgot to share this.  I had my first ever pooptastrophe a bit over a week ago.  First ever, and boy was it an unpleasant experience.  

I went out that Tuesday for what was to be an easy ~6 mile run in the woods near my house.  I got about 2.5 miles into the run on the far end of the park and my stomach suddenly shut me down to a walk.  Oof.  That's not good.  Don't panic, you've been in this position before and shut it down with some walking.  Though I had confidence in my ability to curtail this thing, I knew I had to start planning.  Can I make it the 3/4 mile to the nearby beach with a toilet?  That's my best option, so let's give it a go.  I hook a turn on the trail and start heading in that direction.  Very quickly I realized that I need to start making contingency plans.  The woods where I'm at were cleared of all non-native plants/trees last season, so it's visually very open.  It could be worse, but not a great locale for my first impending poop-on-a-run.   Doesn't matter.  I now know this is going down and grab four massive leaves off of ground growth from the middle of the trail.  I head to the right side of the trail, trekking about 20 feet off trail and panic.  This isn't the right spot!   I feel the need for something perfect.  Clearly a mistake considering the circumstances.  I've never done this before and didn't anticipate it being so stressful.  I head back towards the trail, cross over it and find my way over to a huge oak tree a mere fifteen feet off the trail.  This is going to have to do.  I recall reading about proper poop technique and ensuring adequate clearance from your shorts, threw my back up against the tree with part of the trail now behind me but with a clear line of site onto the oncoming trail and let it rip.  Horrible poop.  It was a three, maybe four leafer.  I can't even recall since it was so traumatic.  Damn the free bagels and cream cheese at work today.  Shouldn't have had two.   Relieved that not a soul witnessed the carnage, I resumed my run towards home. 

About a mile later while running along some railroad tracks that run parallel to an asphalt trail about a mile and a half out from home, it hits me again.  Nooooooo.  Now I've got a major problem.  This section isn't at all "in the woods" and I've got two people walking on the tracks about 300 yards out heading in my direction.  What the hell do I do?  Then out of nowhere, the big man upstairs throws me a bone.  There's a small single track trail that goes through some trees/brush between the tracks that I'm next to and the previously mentioned asphalt trail which is about 40 feet away.   Perfect coverage, so I duck onto this twenty foot long trail.  Total coverage.  I quickly assess and realize there doesn't seem to be any leaves which are larger than an inch in diameter.  I've got no time, but realize that I wore a running shirt which I hadn't worn in probably two years.  I never run shirtless, but there's a time and place for everything.   Unfortunately, the foliage is actually so thick that I can't really get off this trail at all so this one transpires about 12 inches off the side of the single track trail.  God bless the souls that regularly use this little trail and may they please forgive me.  More carnage from my rear side.  And it smells.  The shirt provides a wipe and I see a small gap in the foliage to toss it back into, hopefully out of site.  I make the toss but the shirt hits a branch about four feet back and wraps around it, hanging there for all to see.  Whatever.  I've got to get out of here before there's a witness.  I literally take two steps towards the asphalt path and....oh what in the hell?!?   I scramble to reach back through the clearing, unwrap my t-shirt while being careful not to touch any poo, and unload my third catastrophe.  Wipe.  T-shirt toss part deux.  I head out to the asphalt path and get headed towards home.  Running shirtless, but unable to explain to anyone I pass that it's due to an unspeakable traumatic experience and not because I'm a stud.  Well, in all fairness they can probably surmise that.

Feeling much better, I hit more single track though the woods and am a mere 3/4 mile out from my house when, you guessed it, it's a full fledged pooptastrophe.  I duck behind another large oak tree and unleash number two's number four for the run.  Honestly something died inside me.  Leaves.  Wipe.  Run.  Home.

Walked into the house, again shirtless, and of course my wife is standing right there looking at me with a puzzled expression.  "Don't even ask, because I don't want to talk about it," I quipped as I headed straight to the shower. 

5.5 miles, 58:41, 142 avg HR, 482ft elevation gain, 1 poop per 1.375 miles

 
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dying over here :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
That's a pretty damned good one, @SayWhat?!  I've had two dashes off into the woods on a run, but never four!  And luckily have never had to sacrifice an article of clothing.  But all trail runners know what it means when they look over after a race and notice a runner missing a sock.

 
impressive ride by our "non-sprinter" just south of here. 

How do you get intensity measured on Strava?  I assume that's a premium feature but how does it work?
I think intensity doesn't require a premium sub.  I know you need a power meter, though.

On that ride, since I haven't posted much lately.  Haven't ridden in 2+ weeks, thanks to conference, a small family vacation (in which I worked), and then 14+ hour days every day since.  Not to mention when my bike shipped back my seat post clamp stayed in Albuquerque or somewhere.  I guess when something is held in with friction and sweat crystals you take your chances in not securing it (NOW I know...).  So to get back into riding I join a nice, sedate ride yesterday - a pure sprinter's ride with 20 of the best riders in town.  Smart.  I fully expected to have no form and get beaten up pretty good.  As it turned out I was missing a bit of shape, but turned out better than expected.

Three sprint zones - first one uphill, second one is a long flat ending on a medium up slope and the third was a pure 1 mile drag race. Lost the front group on the first one.  I'm fat right now, anyway, so the uphill one was always going to be tough against the Cat rated sticks.  Finished mid-pack somewhere.   Second one hung in there great until the final acceleration with 1/4 mile or so to go.  Just not quite there, though I did PR that section and I've ridden it 107 times according to Strava.  Held 400+ watts for a while and then cut it off at the end.  Next week should get a signficant PR there.  Finished midpack or maybe a bit above.  Last one is a one mile flat strip.  Stuck in with the front group there until it whittled down to four - some 600+ watt bursts to stay in there.  Then they sprinted and I have no burst at all, so fell back.  Caught one at the end, so 3rd on that last section.  Which for me was awesome and very surprising given the muscle out there - I'm much more suited to be a leadout guy.  Can hold high power for a while and grind away, but don't ask for that 1000+ burst.  Don't have it.  Next week we plan on trying to get a train on that last one.  I'll probably lead that out.

 
SayWhat? said:
Please share.  I now need a laugh at someone else's expense.  :thumbup:
That was me. I live in a very rural area with zero lights. I headed out one morning with my fuel belt on and headphones playing music. It was early morning and very dark, I was running on auto pilot as I could not really see anything. I remember I heard what I thought was a water bottle hitting the pavement. I thought I had lost one off of my fuel belt. I checked and still had my bottles so I took off again and ran right into the back end of a horse. I guess the noise I heard were the hoofs on pavement. I just about #### myself right there. It was one of those things that is funny now but at the time was scary as hell.

Thanks for the poop story. I have been depressed over my health and training and this really perked me up.

Update on my health- Last week my right hand became super painful to do anything. I am a surgical scrub tech and spend lots of time assembling and passing off instruments in surgery. It was a ROUGH day and at the end of the day my right hand had swollen up quite a bit. I went to my pcp office and saw a nurse practitioner there. I told her about my appointment with the hand specialist and his diagnosis of osteo arthritis. She looks at my hand and says it looks like gout. I get the blood test done and sure enough I have gout. Good news is this should be treatable. Bad news is I need to shelf my sparring and martial arts training for ? three weeks. This really put me into a funk and I have not run at all this week as I was to busy feeling sorry for myself. I intend to resume my running plan this Tuesday and I  may go back to my martial arts training Monday but refrain from sparring and striking. I figure I can concentrate on kicks and be a bad ### kicker :shrug:

The other bad news is as the nurse is telling me things that can cause or make gout worse I here the word beer. OH HELL NO!!!!!!!! As much as I enjoy all of my running and training I will admit I do a lot of it so I can drink beer with a clear conscious. I am hoping that once this gout episode is cleared up I can find a work around regarding the beer thing.

 
Sorry to hear about your health issues prosopsis.

But, running into a horse's #### is better than being a horses ####. :lol:

 
14 miles of pure, soupy fun this morning. :rant: The plan was to run some miles at MP, but the dew point negated that pretty quick. Still, got the work in, and on the bright side I'm at my marathon race day weight already (151).

I could actually stand to lose about 3 more pounds, so I'm actually starting to get pretty lean. So pleased about that.

 
@prosopis Running into a horses ###?  Now that's pure comedy!   

Glad you got the hand thing figured out.  Don't know a lot about gout, but that's better than those severe symptoms being from the arthritis.   Good luck with everything!

 
That was me. I live in a very rural area with zero lights. I headed out one morning with my fuel belt on and headphones playing music. It was early morning and very dark, I was running on auto pilot as I could not really see anything. I remember I heard what I thought was a water bottle hitting the pavement. I thought I had lost one off of my fuel belt. I checked and still had my bottles so I took off again and ran right into the back end of a horse. I guess the noise I heard were the hoofs on pavement. I just about #### myself right there. It was one of those things that is funny now but at the time was scary as hell.

Thanks for the poop story. I have been depressed over my health and training and this really perked me up.

Update on my health- Last week my right hand became super painful to do anything. I am a surgical scrub tech and spend lots of time assembling and passing off instruments in surgery. It was a ROUGH day and at the end of the day my right hand had swollen up quite a bit. I went to my pcp office and saw a nurse practitioner there. I told her about my appointment with the hand specialist and his diagnosis of osteo arthritis. She looks at my hand and says it looks like gout. I get the blood test done and sure enough I have gout. Good news is this should be treatable. Bad news is I need to shelf my sparring and martial arts training for ? three weeks. This really put me into a funk and I have not run at all this week as I was to busy feeling sorry for myself. I intend to resume my running plan this Tuesday and I  may go back to my martial arts training Monday but refrain from sparring and striking. I figure I can concentrate on kicks and be a bad ### kicker :shrug:

The other bad news is as the nurse is telling me things that can cause or make gout worse I here the word beer. OH HELL NO!!!!!!!! As much as I enjoy all of my running and training I will admit I do a lot of it so I can drink beer with a clear conscious. I am hoping that once this gout episode is cleared up I can find a work around regarding the beer thing.
Well I wear this net on my head
Cause my red hair is fallin' out
I wear these brown orthopedic shoes
Cause I got a bad case of the gout
I know you want seconds on the corndogs
But there's no reason to shout
 

 
Making progress is almost enough to fall back in love with swimming. 

A few months ago I was thrilled to hit sub 1:20 for 100 with fins and most of my freestyle hundreds were around 1:35.  Today I was able to do 20 100s, broken up 4 pull, 4 swim, 3/3, 2/2 and 1/1.  The pull was easier form work (~1:40 each), but I kept every 100 free under 1:30 and looked up after finishing the last one, 1:17 :)   One of these days I'll have to do a time trial and actually start out of the water, rested.

I was hoping to be in a class this week but wasn't able to get in; so now I'll have to do the sprint tri on Saturday.  Just hoping for sub 60.

 
it's been a fun last 30 minutes.

- registered for the IM CHOO 70.3

- Told my wife we can start working on kid #5
Almost a year later and we're mostly through the process.  still need to be accepted into the program by China but things are looking good.

54:53 total

don't know the swim - must have been sub 8

24:30 bike (22mph)

21:25 run (so barely sub 7) mostly gravel trail. I wasn't breaking 20 today.

12 / 169 overall, 2 / 14 AG
This is the same event as this weekend; doubt my run will be as quick and I'll have to push hard to tie the bike, but swim and transitions should be better. Podium is within reach.

 
Monday - 7 hybrid miles.  3 easy miles to the gym - 20 mins of super set/layered rows, reverse crunches, dips, push up's, and squats.  4 more mostly easy miles after with two segments of 50 lunges + a hill sprint.

Tuesday - 5 recovery miles + C25K w/the fam

Wednesday - 12 MLR @ 7:37 w/fast finish

Thursday - Strength training + C25K w/the fam

Friday - 4 recovery miles

Saturday - 17 miles w/1100' elevation @ 7:49 + C25K w/the fam

Sunday - 9 hybrid miles.  4 easy miles to the gym w/sets of 50 lunges mixed in along the way.  15 mins of super set/layered rows, reverse crunches, and dips.  5 more easy miles after, but mixed in alternating sets of 25 push up's and 50 lunges whenever I started wanting to run faster.

New weekly mileage high - 54 miles (plus C25K).  This week I shoot for 60 with hopefully my first 20 miler Saturday.

 
Not a huge mileage week for me, with two days off (though I walked 5 miles at lax tourney yesterday, and forgot to bring a chair) but the 37M included 3,200' of elevation, new high by far. 

Legs are tired, did an easy 7 on a flatter route this morning. Sales meeting this week with dinners and other crap that makes getting out for runs a challenge. Will be a light week but will try to get some quality in, maybe a tempo which I haven't done in a while. And Christ do I hate breaking in new shoes. I had to interrupt a longish run Sat to switch back to an old pair. It was like switching fri woe boots to slippers. Same model but the new ones always feel like bricks the first 50M or so. 

 
been having problems getting up in the morning to run. fell out of my routine and having a ##### of a time getting back to it. been running in the evening/night instead but not on a consistent rhythm.

throwing off my whole ####

woke up this morning bent on getting out for 5. youngest came crawling in to bed about 4:15 because she was scared.  didn't automatically register that the reason she was scared was because of the lightning and thunder hammering away outside until about 15 minutes later when i couldn't fall back asleep.

furley is willing to run in any weather EXCEPT lightning.  and it was flashing fast and furious. thought i'd wait it out and run as soon as there was a break.  come 6:30 it was still clapping and blinking out there.............................. by then my window had closed.  

:hot:  gotta get out there tonight after the kid's soccer game.  

####!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
been having problems getting up in the morning to run. fell out of my routine and having a ##### of a time getting back to it. been running in the evening/night instead but not on a consistent rhythm.

throwing off my whole ####

woke up this morning bent on getting out for 5. youngest came crawling in to bed about 4:15 because she was scared.  didn't automatically register that the reason she was scared was because of the lightning and thunder hammering away outside until about 15 minutes later when i couldn't fall back asleep.

furley is willing to run in any weather EXCEPT lightning.  and it was flashing fast and furious. thought i'd wait it out and run as soon as there was a break.  come 6:30 it was still clapping and blinking out there.............................. by then my window had closed.  

:hot:  gotta get out there tonight after the kid's soccer game.  

####!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would it help if we filled your PMs with insulting comments and juvenile name-calling to get you out the door? I don't really have anything more constructive to offer than that.

 
Grand Rapids Run Against Hunger 5K

I ran this on Saturday, but ultimately it was a bad decision.  I had run the tough 10 mile trail race on Monday, and then did a twisty, turning 8 mile trail run on Thursday (a wonderful run).  I shouldn't have expected to turn right around and pop a good 5K.  Plus, this was a very small race ...maybe 100 people as a fundraiser for small, local university, so no great good to come of it other than the donation.  In the end, 'knot' a good day.  Routines were fine, and jogged a loop of the two-loop course as a warm-up.  Temps were moderate, and it was a cloudy day.

Mi. 1:  6:49 ..159 HR  but ...ouch

Mi. 2:  7:15 ..171

Mi. 3:  7:19 ..177

.1:   6:58 ..178

Overall 21:45  (7:07/mi), 169 HR avg.  Bleh.  Within the first half mile, I got a bad knot in a calf muscle.  Uh oh.  I even stopped for a few seconds after mile one to try and work it out, but knew that really wasn't going to happen.  I considered just bailing on the race, but decided to mildly limp along and finish.  HR wasn't too taxed the first couple miles because of the physical limitation.  Higher HR in mile 3 reflects the lack of true training over the past several weeks.  I did win my AG, but there were only maybe three or four old guys (#3 came by later to comment how 'fast' I was).  Top three in the AGs all got an engraved, 16-oz. glass.  Nothing like the 3-D T-Rex award, but nice enough.

Vacations all done, now.  Time to settle into a steady training routine focused on fall 5Ks.

 
Golden opportunity wasted this morning. Woke up at 5 to try and beat the heat, and as I let the dog out I notice it is nice and cool. Sit down and have a few crackers and some water and start getting ready, and I hear the pat-pat of rain on the windows. No problem, I'll just check the weather map.

Uh oh - huge severe thunderstorm coming in.  :lol:  Not 2 minutes later, thunder, lightning, sideways rain, the works. I have no problem running in rain, but lightning is a no-no. Decided to come to work instead and leave at 10:30 or so and run at lunch.

Which gave me the opportunity to look at some stats compared to last year:

Just finished up my first 40 mile week of this training cycle. Last year while training for the same race, didn't run my first 40 mile week until the week of August 11th.

June/July of 2015 (up to this point): 97.70 miles

June/July of 2016 (up to this point): 135.90

14.1 Mile Easy Run This Past Weekend: 10:33 Pace, 156HR

14.02 Mile Easy Run July 26, 2015: 11:21 Pace, 152HR (this was the date I ran my first run over 14 last year)

Total Mileage in 2015 (through yesterday): 575

Total Mileage in 2016 (through yesterday): 629

Anyway, just having fun with numbers this morning before I start to do some real work. Definitely progress, albeit slowly. 

 
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I'll never forget the end of a run about 2 years ago.  I knew something was coming in and that I'll be pressing my luck, but I didn't have any other time to run that day so off I went.  I made it 4+ miles without issue and made my last turn with a little less than a mile to go and saw the line.  Slight gray-to-black and I could see the downpour coming from the black sky.  My house was in between me and the line, but no way I was going to out-run that thing.  I started sprinting anyway, but it was all for naught.  I was only caught out in it for maybe two minutes and when I got into my garage I still looked like I just jumped into a pool.  Shut the garage door, stripped naked, then made a bee line to the shower.  I still trailed enough water through the house to require a 3 towel clean-up.

No lightning though.

 
Just checking back in to say hi. I took last week off from pretty much everything (running, message boards, strava) to give myself a break physically and mentally, but did drop in a couple of times to see what everyone else was up to. Great race from MAC and some hilarious stories about midrun/race #2s. (I am not going to go into too much detail here, but I owe someone who lives right past the 30km mark of the Hamburg marathon an apology)

Thanks again for the support, and looking forward to following everyone else's training for awhile.

 
I think I'm going to sign up for a 10 mile and a 5K on the same day.

The races should be split by about 30 minutes. Should be interesting to try to spin it back up right after ending a race. Never done anything like it before.

 
I think I'm going to sign up for a 10 mile and a 5K on the same day.

The races should be split by about 30 minutes. Should be interesting to try to spin it back up right after ending a race. Never done anything like it before.
Just think of it as a half-marathon with a 30-minute bathroom break in between.

 
I think I'm going to sign up for a 10 mile and a 5K on the same day.

The races should be split by about 30 minutes. Should be interesting to try to spin it back up right after ending a race. Never done anything like it before.
which one is first? 

 

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