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Randy Moss says he thinks he'll be looking for new team in 2011 (1 Viewer)
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benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Am I the only that downgrades Brady greatly now?
Brady has had exactly one season over 30 TD passes.
He lost welker(will he ever be the same) and soon could lose Moss.
For all of you that are going to state he didn't have great WR's before.....Brady wasn't a STUD FF QB until Moss/Welker came to NE.
Brady has had exactly one season over 30 TD passes.
He lost welker(will he ever be the same) and soon could lose Moss.
For all of you that are going to state he didn't have great WR's before.....Brady wasn't a STUD FF QB until Moss/Welker came to NE.
Cassius
Footballguy
No, you're the only one who could figure this out.
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ravage
Footballguy
Full article
To me it looks more like Moss is looking for an early out in NE.
"That's how it is. Put it like this, I guess that before I came there the philosophy was believing in their system. I think that's where they really don't pay guys because they have so much faith in their system. I didn't mean it as a knock against the organization. They just don't pay. If as an individual I'm not really in their future plans I would like to go elsewhere."
That's pretty much asking to be let go.
To me it looks more like Moss is looking for an early out in NE.
"That's how it is. Put it like this, I guess that before I came there the philosophy was believing in their system. I think that's where they really don't pay guys because they have so much faith in their system. I didn't mean it as a knock against the organization. They just don't pay. If as an individual I'm not really in their future plans I would like to go elsewhere."
That's pretty much asking to be let go.
Cassius
Footballguy
lol
Genghis Khan
Footballguy
A disgruntled wide receiver over 34, with great skills, but several screws rattling around his head,...now where have I heard that story before?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Why Moss isn't a top priority for Pats
February, 20, 2010 Feb 2010:00PM ET
By Mike Reiss
If a list was created of Patriots priorities for a contract extension, receiver Randy Moss would currently fall behind nose tackle Vince Wilfork and quarterback Tom Brady, and possibly even behind Pro Bowl left guard Logan Mankins.
That might best explain why Moss, who enters the final year of his contract, said Saturday night that he believes 2010 will be his final season with the Patriots.
There is no contract extension imminent for him at this point. In fact, there probably haven't been any talks at this juncture.
Because Wilfork's contract expires, his situation is now at the top of the list. Feb. 25 is the deadline to place the franchise tag on players and all signs are pointing to the team assigning Wilfork the tag with the hope that talks can continue toward a long-term agreement.
However that unfolds, the next domino to fall figures to be Brady. He enters the final year of his contract and is scheduled to earn $3.5 million in base salary and a $3 million roster bonus.
A record-setting extension for Brady, which given the current market for top quarterbacks could be anywhere from $15-20 million per season, projects as one of the main pieces of the Patriots' team-building approach this offseason. Brady has never entered the final year of his contract as a Patriot and that's why he'd be the next line of business after Wilfork.
Assuming the Patriots reach resolutions with Wilfork and Brady, the question then would be who is the next priority for an extension.
Moss just turned 33 and while he's still one of the most dangerous receivers in the game, he's also closer to the end of his career than the beginning. The Patriots figure to be interested in re-signing him, but would they pay him No. 1 receiver money he might command elsewhere? Moss seems to think the answer is no. Perhaps the Patriots would be more inclined to invest big bucks in someone like Mankins, a two-time Pro Bowler in his prime years.
Moss's remarks Saturday night highlight the challenging contractual situation the Patriots currently find themselves. They have some big-time players nearing the end of their contracts, including Moss, whose $6.4 million base salary in 2010 is the richest of any player on the club.
How it all unfolds is part of what will make this Patriots offseason so compelling.
February, 20, 2010 Feb 2010:00PM ET
By Mike Reiss
If a list was created of Patriots priorities for a contract extension, receiver Randy Moss would currently fall behind nose tackle Vince Wilfork and quarterback Tom Brady, and possibly even behind Pro Bowl left guard Logan Mankins.
That might best explain why Moss, who enters the final year of his contract, said Saturday night that he believes 2010 will be his final season with the Patriots.
There is no contract extension imminent for him at this point. In fact, there probably haven't been any talks at this juncture.
Because Wilfork's contract expires, his situation is now at the top of the list. Feb. 25 is the deadline to place the franchise tag on players and all signs are pointing to the team assigning Wilfork the tag with the hope that talks can continue toward a long-term agreement.
However that unfolds, the next domino to fall figures to be Brady. He enters the final year of his contract and is scheduled to earn $3.5 million in base salary and a $3 million roster bonus.
A record-setting extension for Brady, which given the current market for top quarterbacks could be anywhere from $15-20 million per season, projects as one of the main pieces of the Patriots' team-building approach this offseason. Brady has never entered the final year of his contract as a Patriot and that's why he'd be the next line of business after Wilfork.
Assuming the Patriots reach resolutions with Wilfork and Brady, the question then would be who is the next priority for an extension.
Moss just turned 33 and while he's still one of the most dangerous receivers in the game, he's also closer to the end of his career than the beginning. The Patriots figure to be interested in re-signing him, but would they pay him No. 1 receiver money he might command elsewhere? Moss seems to think the answer is no. Perhaps the Patriots would be more inclined to invest big bucks in someone like Mankins, a two-time Pro Bowler in his prime years.
Moss's remarks Saturday night highlight the challenging contractual situation the Patriots currently find themselves. They have some big-time players nearing the end of their contracts, including Moss, whose $6.4 million base salary in 2010 is the richest of any player on the club.
How it all unfolds is part of what will make this Patriots offseason so compelling.
True, but I am very curious come August whether Brady still falls into people's Top 3 QB plans (along with Manning and Brees) based on the notion that he could "get it done" w/o Welker and Moss. Personally, I would rather wait a couple of rounds and be the loser in the Rivers/Rodgers/Schaub sweepstakes. There is a lot of time between now and August, but I would guess in even the better leagues someone bites early on Brady, opening opportunity for others.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Im pretty sure that Rodgers is in that top3 and not Brady.
I agree with you...just curious what the "masses" will think. Most of it will be influenced by talking heads or a great/poor preseason game by Edelmann, I still think (and of course it is early) that the armour of Tom Brady will shine through draft day. For example, I am in a FBG keep 3 league, and usually only about 2-4 QBs are kept year-over-year. I will be shocked (and I am not looking at rosters) if Brady is not considered a keeper for at least one more year.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Someone will reach for Brady, but it won't be me. Welker's injury means more to me than anything Moss does right now, as long as he's on the team in September.
I do not agree with your conclusion.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
maybe Favre can start lobbying for him to come back to Minnesota. The implications would be delicious.
the branded hand
Footballguy
Kansas City needs WR help more than Minnesota don't you think?
ETA: Moss back in Min would be fun to watch.
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Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
By then I think Tate will be ready to step up and be a good WR on the team. I see his value going up and up.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I think Minnesota would be foolish to pursue Moss. I felt the Packers would have been fooish to do so as they had great talent ready to bloom. I felt Dallas was foolish to keep T.O. as long as they did as I kept mentioning a little used reciever that I felt woud break out as soom as he was gone. And I feel Minnesoata is just fine at W.R. No, my post just had to do with Favre, who loves himself more weapons than he needs. He has never really understood that defensive stops = offensive opportunity. He is not above creating a mess with stupid demands for what he does not need. Great arm, two cent head. Still I could see this happening. I can see Chlly doing anything to keep Favre happy to get another year out of him, and I can see Favre implying he may have two more years left if Chilly will serve his every whim. Whether Favre would actually go two more years, I doubt, but I can see him dangling that out there to get what he wants.Kansas City needs WR help more than Minnesota don't you think?ETA: Moss back in Min would be fun to watch.
ravage
Footballguy
Good, cuz if everyone agreed there wouldn't be much sense to be here.Here is my thinking. Moss hasn't shown the TO tendancies as often as TO has but he does tend to get his point across in more subtle ways. He won't do sit-ups in his driveway or bad-mouth his QB but he knew exactly what he was saying. Behind closed doors with the team you can guess that he is saying more than he did in that interview. Although most won't think anything of the quote because it's hidden in amongst all the "I'm a team guy" talk, it's there and it could be that it's for the team. As in, I could have said more.
NE isn't known for letting guys go still under contract so the odds of Moss being gone, especially in an uncapped year, are slim. No matter what else is in the interview you can't disregard that sentence. What Moss wants and what he gets may be different though.
So when you said that he was asking to be let go, you were really guessing he wants to go based upon statements you haven't heard him make.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I don't know if he was healthy at any point this season, but did he even get on the field?Mr. Peterson said:
Yes, he played 1-2 games (mainly on special teams) before going on IR
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
What are the chances NE could trade him back to Oakland for something like two first round draft picks? 
ravage
Footballguy
Not at all. "If as an individual I'm not really in their future plans I would like to go elsewhere." Why would he say that if he meant next year? His contract is already up next year. No need to say anything like that. He can only mean he wants to be gone now if they aren't going to pay him a big contract after 2010. And you know as well as I do that NE won't give him a big contract.The team can't say he went over the line because very few people read all of what he said and apply common sense to it. But I'd be very surprised he isn't saying more than just that to the team.Christo said:
In a conversation I had with Moss last year, he told me that he will play this game as long as he's able. If it involves him holding a clipboard and playing reduced snaps at age 40- then he will. Contrary to what people say about him, the man loves what he does- as long as he gets paid for the risks he takes. He has no desire to hang it up anytime soon.This was just one of a few times we were hanging out; and there were no cameras or reporters around for any "scripted" answers.... Just a couple of us guys spending a few days taking it easy in his off season. (No agenda here)jurb26 said:
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
metoo
Footballguy
I like Tate but I don't think he's a #1 WR.
Adebisi
Footballguy
There are three guys listed here who were drafted in the first 3 rounds.I don't really understand how it could be too early to give them credit for Edelman, but not too early to rip the Tate selection.
So that leaves two. I'm not sure you want to draw conclusions based on a sample size of 2.
Genghis Khan
Footballguy
Besides, he has a lot less mileage than you would think, because he rests on at least half the plays.
