Randy vs. T.O. (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Awesome]

Both gave me some of my favorite football and fantasy football memories over the last decade, albeit in different ways.

Both were awesome and I actually enjoyed one of T.O.'s plays best where he didn't have the ball (he ran down a viking after a piack, demolishing everyone in his way..saved a TD).

But when it comes down to it, I remember watching Moss when he had the fire and something to prove and there was nothing like him. what he did to the cowboys on thanksgiving day after they passed on him was rediculous. The show he put on in Green Bay on MNF...absurd. The stats he put up at the beginning of his career...remarkable.

Randy Moss is the only thing that kept Randy Moss from legitimizing the Jerry Vs. Randy debate. It could have been that close.

I caught the key word. WHEN he had the fire, he was clearly the best wr to ever play the game. I don't deny he was so talented he probably tried more than it came across (made it look so easy). But he certainly did take plays off even by his own admission. As such, that knocks him down.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Hey Dr. Awesome,I can appreciate your opinion that TO edges him out, and he did try hard when he was out there, but that also led to a lot of TO's off the field troubles that people seem to forget. Most people are pointing out that Randy Moss took some plays off during a game but are forgetting the fact that for many years, TO was considered a cancer to even have on a team, much more than Randy Moss.There are tons of old threads on here talking about is TO worth even having on a team, is it worth the risk and many informative posters thought it wasn't worth it. I for one applauded the Cowboys getting TO when they did, even with the whole star incident because of how good of a player he was but TO was a big time distraction to a team, much more than Randy Moss was.I don't think that should play a large part in your decision making process, but since so many are pointing out how hard TO played during games, it's also important to point out we're not talking about Mary Poppins here, TO brought his own set of problems to any team he was on.

I remember TO and Garcia. I remember TO and McNabb (which later looked like TO was right). TO in Dallas seemed to be less of an issue. Still, neither guy will ever be mistaken as a model teammate. TO was a crybaby and an attention whore. He was also a guy who gave it all nearly every play once the game started. He rarely hesitated to block anyone. He'd play when he was hurt. He didn't take plays off. He practiced hard.The most incredible thing is despite Moss having one of the most incredible seasons of all time, Owens is STILL neck and neck with him for their careers. To me that just shows what some people have been saying - when he gave it his all, Moss was clearly better. But he rarely gave it his all. So we must look at that as well. And yes, I think it's fair to say Moss, despite being one of the best wr's of all time, did not live up to his potential. That's purely his own doing.