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Rank the new NFL coaching hires (1 Viewer)

Which of the 10 head coaching changes [and their coordinators] do you think was the best?

  • Buffalo Billls -- Jauron/Fairchild/Fewell

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  • Detroit Lions -- Marinelli/Martz/Henderson

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  • Green Bay Packers -- McCarthy/Jagodzinski/Sanders

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  • Houston Texans -- Kubiak/Calhoun/Smith

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  • Kansas City Chiefs -- Edwards/Solari/Cunningham

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  • Minnesota Vikings -- Childress/Bevell/Tomlin

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  • New Orleans Saints -- Payton/Marrone/Gibbs

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  • New York Jets -- Mangini/B. Schottenheimer/Sutton

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  • Oakland Raiders -- Shell/Walsh/Ryan

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  • St. Louis Rams -- Linehan/Olson/Haslett

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Jason Wood

Zoo York
The NFL coaching vacancies and their coordinator positions are all filled [or will be momentarily once Oakland formally acknowledges the hiring of Tom Walsh as OC]. For a detailed thread on the coaching carousel, look HERE

Which of these trios do you see as the best hire? Which do you expect to have the most success initially [not necessarily the same answer]. Which do you feel will be the least successful, and why?

 

The Hank

Footballguy
I would've voted Miami Dolphins with Capers and Mularkey being hired, but since they didnt get a new head coach, i went with Detroit, solid HC in Marinelli, as well as the "Offensive Genius" that is Mike Martz. They should be able to turn around what has been a funeral march of an offense in to something that is worthwhile.

Detroit Lions my pick.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
I would've voted Miami Dolphins with Capers and Mularkey being hired, but since they didnt get a new head coach, i went with Detroit, solid HC in Marinelli, as well as the "Offensive Genius" that is Mike Martz. They should be able to turn around what has been a funeral march of an offense in to something that is worthwhile.

Detroit Lions my pick.
That was my choice too Hank. :thumbup:
 

msommer

Footballguy
First off I think they are all pretty weak.

The top three of a very low heap would be Texans, Bills and Chiefs in no significant order.

Of those probably Chiefs will briefly have the most success while either the Bills or the Texans will improve the most - probably the Texans since I believe Kubiak knows that the Texans will need an offensive line as opposed to a human turnstile and since I am not sure Levy is the answer at GM for the Bills although Casserly clearly isn't for the Texans either - he must have as many lives as Millen.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
First off I think they are all pretty weak.

The top three of a very low heap would be Texans, Bills and Chiefs in no significant order.

Of those probably Chiefs will briefly have the most success while either the Bills or the Texans will improve the most - probably the Texans since I believe Kubiak knows that the Texans will need an offensive line as opposed to a human turnstile and since I am not sure Levy is the answer at GM for the Bills although Casserly clearly isn't for the Texans either - he must have as many lives as Millen.
An interesting observation msommer, why do you think they're all weak? Because so many first time HCs? Plenty of coaches in this league have flourished in their first HC stints; including some of those considered at the top of the position currently [J. Fisher, A. Reid, J. Fox, J. Gruden to name a few].
 

Godsbrother

Footballguy
I would've voted Miami Dolphins with Capers and Mularkey being hired, but since they didnt get a new head coach, i went with Detroit, solid HC in Marinelli, as well as the "Offensive Genius" that is Mike Martz. They should be able to turn around what has been a funeral march of an offense in to something that is worthwhile.

Detroit Lions my pick.
That was my choice too Hank. :thumbup:
I would have chosen Miami too. Instead, I went with KC :bag:
 

Kub

Footballguy
I went with Detroit as well. I think Marinelli will be a very good head coach. He just seems to get it. Martz, for all his detractors, is a great offensive coach. Henderson is a fiery guy who seems to get a lot out of his players(going by 04, I'll give him a bit if a pass on 05 due to the mess that was the Jets)

The only thing I'd be apprehensive about is these "all star" type staffs don't always work well together. Martz clearly believes he is still head coach material, so I wonder if that won't lead to problems.

 

BlueOnion

Footballguy
The only one I feel qualified to comment on is the Vikings. Commenting on those hires relative to other new coaching staffs would just be homerism.

However, since I disclosed my homerism, I will pimp the Vikings' coaching staff.

I think Childress is a great acquisition. Bevell brings very little to the table other than a trusted offensive mind in which Childress can trust Bevell to carry out his vision. I don't think Bevell is a great offensive coordinator, but this deficieny is mute since he is not calling the plays.

Tomlin is a great acquisition, the guy is young and has excelled up through the ranks. The nice thing about Tomlin is he may be to young to be a head coach anytime soon, so he could offer the Vikings' some stablility at the defense coordinator position for some time.

Overall Minnesota did well by hiring Childress so quickly, which allowed them to be the first to pillage other coaching staffs for the coordinator positions.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
The only one I feel qualified to comment on is the Vikings. Commenting on those hires relative to other new coaching staffs would just be homerism.

However, since I disclosed my homerism, I will pimp the Vikings' coaching staff.

I think Childress is a great acquisition. Bevell brings very little to the table other than a trusted offensive mind in which Childress can trust Bevell to carry out his vision. I don't think Bevell is a great offensive coordinator, but this deficieny is mute since he is not calling the plays.

Tomlin is a great acquisition, the guy is young and has excelled up through the ranks. The nice thing about Tomlin is he may be to young to be a head coach anytime soon, so he could offer the Vikings' some stablility at the defense coordinator position for some time.

Overall Minnesota did well by hiring Childress so quickly, which allowed them to be the first to pillage other coaching staffs for the coordinator positions.
Minnesota would be my 2nd choice but mainly because I believe strongly in Brad Childress. Another nice thing is he got to pick his staff being the first hired, and there's little question this group will work well together. But collectively their inexperience will work against them for a year or two, no question about that. Much like I warned about Lovie Smith in Chicago. In his first year, he had no HC experience and neither of his coordinators had ever been a coordinator before. No one on his staff had called plays. Childress and his staff are in a similar position although Childress does have play calling experience [a bit in Philly and a ton at Wisconsin].
 

Islander

Footballguy
First off I think they are all pretty weak.

The top three of a very low heap would be Texans, Bills and Chiefs in no significant order.

Of those probably Chiefs will briefly have the most success while either the Bills or the Texans will improve the most - probably the Texans since I believe Kubiak knows that the Texans will need an offensive line as opposed to a human turnstile and since I am not sure Levy is the answer at GM for the Bills although Casserly clearly isn't for the Texans either - he must have as many lives as Millen.
An interesting observation msommer, why do you think they're all weak? Because so many first time HCs? Plenty of coaches in this league have flourished in their first HC stints; including some of those considered at the top of the position currently [J. Fisher, A. Reid, J. Fox, J. Gruden to name a few].
I agree with Wood here. It is much more common that a coach will develop as a top coach when they first get a HC job. It is less common that a coach will be HC for a while, get fired, hired elsewhere, then become a top HC. Belichick comes to mind, but it is less common than a coordinator becoming HC. I would add Holmgren to Wood's list.As a Bills fan, I am not very happy about Jauron's hire for that reason. I would have preferred to get a successful coordinator, Whisenhunt for example.

I voted for the Lions.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Miami came out like bandits stealing mularkey and capers...head coaches going to a team as coordinators..
Possibly, but possibly not. Could be too many chefs in the kitchen. But in this case I think Dolphins fans should be optimistic for two reasons. One, Nick Saban has control of the franchise and won't be intimidated by having former HCs as his wing men. Two, neither Capers or Mularkey are likely in line for another HC position in the next few years; so this should lead to some stability on the Fins staff.
 

ShadowMaster

Footballguy
I would've voted Miami Dolphins with Capers and Mularkey being hired, but since they didnt get a new head coach, i went with Detroit, solid HC in Marinelli, as well as the "Offensive Genius" that is Mike Martz. They should be able to turn around what has been a funeral march of an offense in to something that is worthwhile.

Detroit Lions my pick.
That was my choice too Hank. :thumbup:
I also agree here with the Miami changes. The OC change to Saunders in Washington could be HUGE too.Voted Houston, with STL as my 2nd choice.

 

Bob Henry

Footballguy
The concern with Martz in Detroit is that he does help them improve in 2006, then he leaves for a better gig (another HC job possibly). The Lions would then be looking for another OC and possibly another shift in offensive philosophy, scheme, etc.. which has always been a problem here in Detroit.

I personally like Martz being here, but I think a lack of continuity can hurt any team, especially one that really has never gotten IT.

 

BlueDredSo

Footballguy
Voted Buffalo cuz I'm a homer, and I couldn't stand seeing that goose egg up there. Otherwise would've voted Detroit. Marinelli should at least improve them a little bit, and that offense is perfect for Martz if they can find a QB who can get the job done.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
The concern with Martz in Detroit is that he does help them improve in 2006, then he leaves for a better gig (another HC job possibly). The Lions would then be looking for another OC and possibly another shift in offensive philosophy, scheme, etc.. which has always been a problem here in Detroit.

I personally like Martz being here, but I think a lack of continuity can hurt any team, especially one that really has never gotten IT.
Agreed Bob, that's the big risk in bringing in Martz. But much like Jim Fassel in Baltimore, I don't know that Martz is going to have a laundry list of offers next year simply because he wants the offers.
 

Sinrman

Footballguy
Though I'd like to do the homer pick and go with the Lions, I think it's too early to vote on anyone, really...

 

Despyzer

Lousy Attention Whore
I'm most concerned about the Jets. They hired a young coach who has never been a coordinator, and then followed that up by hiring coordinators who have never been coordinators either. Throw in a young GM with no football experience and that looks pretty bad to me.

 

sinatravolta

Footballguy
I also agree here with the Miami changes. The OC change to Saunders in Washington could be HUGE too.
Yup - of course I'm a fan - but I am loving the Saunders move.Obviously 2/3 of the trio was already in place - but it's pretty hard to argue that any team has a better coaching combo now than the Redskins with Gibbs/Williams/Saunders.
 

Aaron Rudnicki

Keep Walking™
Staff member
I wound up voting for St Louis. I like Linehan and think Haslett will be a great signing as the DC there. I think the Lions staff certainly has some interesting potential that will be fun to watch how it pans out. I'm also a huge Kubiak fan and think he was probably the best HC hire this year.

 

Bob Henry

Footballguy
The concern with Martz in Detroit is that he does help them improve in 2006, then he leaves for a better gig (another HC job possibly). The Lions would then be looking for another OC and possibly another shift in offensive philosophy, scheme, etc.. which has always been a problem here in Detroit.

I personally like Martz being here, but I think a lack of continuity can hurt any team, especially one that really has never gotten IT.
Agreed Bob, that's the big risk in bringing in Martz. But much like Jim Fassel in Baltimore, I don't know that Martz is going to have a laundry list of offers next year simply because he wants the offers.
Yep.. That's just the primary concern that's being aired around here on the local sports talk shows. I think even a year of Martz could do wonders for whipping these young pups into shape (hopefully). Then again, it could backfire if they don't finally address their offensive line issues.
 

Mike

Footballguy
I'm most concerned about the Jets. They hired a young coach who has never been a coordinator, and then followed that up by hiring coordinators who have never been coordinators either. Throw in a young GM with no football experience and that looks pretty bad to me.
Agree 100% here :thumbup:
 

Mike

Footballguy
I wound up voting for St Louis. I like Linehan and think Haslett will be a great signing as the DC there. I think the Lions staff certainly has some interesting potential that will be fun to watch how it pans out. I'm also a huge Kubiak fan and think he was probably the best HC hire this year.
Also agree here with Rams as the best choice to see immediate results. The Rams D mostly needs a swift kick in the backside which Haslett should be more than capable of doing. Plus they play in a bad division.I also like Kubiak as the best long-term choice.

 

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