Rank The Top 4 Dynasty Running Backs! (1 Viewer)

[salmonstud]

In the following scoring format - if you are drafting today - how do you rank the consensus top 4 RB's in DYNASTY?

1 point per 10 yards Rush/Receiving

6 points per TD

.5 Points per reception

-2 points per loss fumble

*With the -2 points per lost fumble - and the potential of a shorter playing career due to his running style - I'm considering downgrading Adrian Peterson.

*Chris Johnson appears to be the consensus #1 RB by most.

*Ray Rice is 23 compared to M.J.D. & Peterson....who both are 25. How much do you value Rice's perceived extra 2 years of durability.

I have an upcoming startup dynasty draft looming & I'm having hard time ranking #2 - #4. Curious to see what the Shark Pool Experts think.

Current dynasty rankings seem to favor the following ranking:

Chris Johnson

Adrian Peterson

M. Jones-Drew

Ray Rice

 

[Black&Gold]

In the following scoring format - if you are drafting today - how do you rank the consensus top 4 RB's in DYNASTY?

1 point per 10 yards Rush/Receiving

6 points per TD

.5 Points per reception

-2 points per loss fumble

*With the -2 points per lost fumble - and the potential of a shorter playing career due to his running style - I'm considering downgrading Adrian Peterson.

*Chris Johnson appears to be the consensus #1 RB by most.

*Ray Rice is 23 compared to M.J.D. & Peterson....who both are 25. How much do you value Rice's perceived extra 2 years of durability.

I have an upcoming startup dynasty draft looming & I'm having hard time ranking #2 - #4. Curious to see what the Shark Pool Experts think.

Current dynasty rankings seem to favor the following ranking:

Chris Johnson

Adrian Peterson

M. Jones-Drew

Ray Rice

Does it matter? I'd say MJD is most likely to have a shorter career.

 

[travdogg]

I've probably got it ranked:

Johnson

Jones-Drew

Peterson

Rice

Then a big dropoff to the next tier which is lead by...JAHVID BEST!!!!

 

[Go deep]

In the following scoring format - if you are drafting today - how do you rank the consensus top 4 RB's in DYNASTY?

1 point per 10 yards Rush/Receiving

6 points per TD

.5 Points per reception

-2 points per loss fumble

*With the -2 points per lost fumble - and the potential of a shorter playing career due to his running style - I'm considering downgrading Adrian Peterson.

*Chris Johnson appears to be the consensus #1 RB by most.

*Ray Rice is 23 compared to M.J.D. & Peterson....who both are 25. How much do you value Rice's perceived extra 2 years of durability.

I have an upcoming startup dynasty draft looming & I'm having hard time ranking #2 - #4. Curious to see what the Shark Pool Experts think.

Current dynasty rankings seem to favor the following ranking:

Chris Johnson

Adrian Peterson

M. Jones-Drew

Ray Rice

Does it matter? I'd say MJD is most likely to have a shorter career.

Really, i think the exact oposite, what makes you think that. Peterson has to be the easy favorite on which player will have the shortest career. ETA, Original poster, just take Chris Johnson 1.1, dont overthink it. By the way, not the best conceiling of an ACF question i have seen.

 

[salmonstud]

ETA, Original poster, just take Chris Johnson 1.1, dont overthink it. By the way, not the best conceiling of an ACF question i have seen.

Hey - it was a sincere question....no hidden agenda.....no really.

 

[TheWick]

Chris Johnson

Peterson

Rice

MJD

 

[adrenaline]

1. AdP - The complete package, Agility, Power, Size & Speed. Still the most talented RB of the bunch, can do it with or w/o a QB.

2. CJ99(?) - Speed Kills! Everyone who has accomplished what he did last season hasn't come close the next. A lot of times when a player's game depends on speed you can stick a fork in him when he loses a step. CJ is my choice to finish last 1st.

3. Ray Rice - Good all around skills on a team with good O & D. + I like his name

4. MJD - On a better team he might be 2nd on my list, the entire Jags O fell off during the 2nd half of last season & that scares me.

 

[ZWK]

CJ

MJD

AP

RR

Rice is the riskiest right now - he's only had 1 impressive season, he hasn't gotten the goalline carries, his value has depended heavily on his role in the passing game but his team's passing offense is changing. AP has long-term risk because of the amount of punishment he gets and his injury history. That leaves CJ & MJD as the two I trust more, and CJ is the one who has put up huge numbers, so he's first. MJD gets underrated - people don't appreciate how consistently amazing he's been with the football, and now he's solidified a big role for himself (include the high value touches on the goalline & in the passing game), and he's still just 25.

 

[Donsmith753]

ADP

CJ

RR

Jstew

 

[adrenaline]

ADPCJRRJstew

Talent wise JStew could be higher than that on my list. I just wouldn't be able to cross my fingers & wait for him.

 

[Donsmith753]

ADPCJRRJstew

Talent wise JStew could be higher than that on my list. I just wouldn't be able to cross my fingers & wait for him.

The reason for my apprehension. I don't think I could take him there if it came to it. We are talking dynasty though and I'd argue he is one of the top 4/5 dynasty RB's.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Best and Stewart in the top 5? That's insane. Classic case of too much focus on the future in dynasty leagues. Dynasty or not, you need to focus more on the next 1-2 years if you ever want to win anything. Stewart and Best could easily finish in the 20-35 range this year, and then, who knows what could happen.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Best and Stewart in the top 5? That's insane. Classic case of too much focus on the future in dynasty leagues. Dynasty or not, you need to focus more on the next 1-2 years if you ever want to win anything. Stewart and Best could easily finish in the 20-35 range this year, and then, who knows what could happen.

I bet you would have said the same thing to someone pondering to draft Ray Rice higher than his ADP last year.

 

[Black&Gold]

In the following scoring format - if you are drafting today - how do you rank the consensus top 4 RB's in DYNASTY?

1 point per 10 yards Rush/Receiving

6 points per TD

.5 Points per reception

-2 points per loss fumble

*With the -2 points per lost fumble - and the potential of a shorter playing career due to his running style - I'm considering downgrading Adrian Peterson.

*Chris Johnson appears to be the consensus #1 RB by most.

*Ray Rice is 23 compared to M.J.D. & Peterson....who both are 25. How much do you value Rice's perceived extra 2 years of durability.

I have an upcoming startup dynasty draft looming & I'm having hard time ranking #2 - #4. Curious to see what the Shark Pool Experts think.

Current dynasty rankings seem to favor the following ranking:

Chris Johnson

Adrian Peterson

M. Jones-Drew

Ray Rice

Does it matter? I'd say MJD is most likely to have a shorter career.

Really, i think the exact oposite, what makes you think that. Peterson has to be the easy favorite on which player will have the shortest career. ETA, Original poster, just take Chris Johnson 1.1, dont overthink it. By the way, not the best conceiling of an ACF question i have seen.

His running style, the talent behind him and the team that he's on. Peterson is the one I would count on for the longest. His team is built for the future (minus Favre of course). He is a weightroom junkie. Of the 4, he was the only slamdunk coming out of college.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Best and Stewart in the top 5? That's insane. Classic case of too much focus on the future in dynasty leagues. Dynasty or not, you need to focus more on the next 1-2 years if you ever want to win anything. Stewart and Best could easily finish in the 20-35 range this year, and then, who knows what could happen.

I bet you would have said the same thing to someone pondering to draft Ray Rice higher than his ADP last year.

Higher than his ADP? No.In the top 5, probably. Though, that is totally different. Rice was set to be the team's #1 RB with little competition. Stewart is obviously not, and Best is far from proven on a terrible team. In addition to that, Best has durability concerns. Way too many ?'s for a top 5 pick in any format.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

CJMJDAPRRRice is the riskiest right now - he's only had 1 impressive season, he hasn't gotten the goalline carries, his value has depended heavily on his role in the passing game but his team's passing offense is changing. AP has long-term risk because of the amount of punishment he gets and his injury history. That leaves CJ & MJD as the two I trust more, and CJ is the one who has put up huge numbers, so he's first. MJD gets underrated - people don't appreciate how consistently amazing he's been with the football, and now he's solidified a big role for himself (include the high value touches on the goalline & in the passing game), and he's still just 25.

I dont know, I would say MJD has the worst surrounding offense, also I think the Jags were ready to take Spiller. I see no reason to think Rice was a one year wonder. Once McGahee is gone, he'll likely get goalline carries.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

On Peterson, I think it's pretty clear that he'll burn out before anyone else on this list, minus a catastrophic injury for one of them. "limited shelf life" was a standard part of his scouting report, he just takes the defense head on, and eventually that catches up with a player.

 

[Warpig]

CJMJDAPRRRice is the riskiest right now - he's only had 1 impressive season, he hasn't gotten the goalline carries, his value has depended heavily on his role in the passing game but his team's passing offense is changing. AP has long-term risk because of the amount of punishment he gets and his injury history. That leaves CJ & MJD as the two I trust more, and CJ is the one who has put up huge numbers, so he's first. MJD gets underrated - people don't appreciate how consistently amazing he's been with the football, and now he's solidified a big role for himself (include the high value touches on the goalline & in the passing game), and he's still just 25.

I dont know, I would say MJD has the worst surrounding offense, also I think the Jags were ready to take Spiller. I see no reason to think Rice was a one year wonder. Once McGahee is gone, he'll likely get goalline carries.

Oh no you don't! MJD had a subpar surrounding cast last year and look at the #'s he put up. Depending on your leagues scoring rules, MJD was #1 in some leagues. Take into consideration that Jacksonville's O-line was a work in progress last year after drafting 2 rookie tackles. They didn't know what they had at WR neither. Now, fast forward to today, those 2 rookie tackles are now in their 2nd year so there should be better unity and cohesion. MSW is one of the shark pool darlings (I'm a Jags fan and I'm not really that high on him) and there is high hopes for Mike Thomas (not sure if he'll be the slot or #2 WR). They also have solid TEs in Marcedes and the play making Zach Miller 2.0. The pressure is on Garrard to return to form from 2 years ago or JDR might be gone (should be). Also, MJD doesn't really have any threat to take carries or receptions away from him. That offense runs through him. The way I would rank them is this:CJ - uber stud on a team with a great O-line and not much elseMJD - similar to above AP - prototypical workhorse back on a team with a great O-line but he also has numerous weapons in the passing game and fumblitisRR - I love this guy, but he still has McGahee to contend with and to vulture TD's. But he is a ppr beast. Will that change with Q in the picture?:steppingoffsoapbox:

 

[Carolina Hustler]

#1 is clearly Chris Johnson unless he gets caught in a hold out. If that's the case, he's not even on the top 4 list in redraft. Rice is clearly #4

Leaves the question for whoever is picking the second RB on the board. AP or MJD.. Whoever picks 3rd RB gets the decision made for him.

In my opinion, MJD is a safer pick.

CJ

AP

MJD

RR

...in that order (redraft)

 

[salmonstud]

#1 is clearly Chris Johnson unless he gets caught in a hold out. If that's the case, he's not even on the top 4 list in redraft. Rice is clearly #4 Leaves the question for whoever is picking the second RB on the board. AP or MJD.. Whoever picks 3rd RB gets the decision made for him.In my opinion, MJD is a safer pick.CJAPMJDRR...in that order (redraft)

As noted in the topic and the opening post - DYNASTY rankings....not redraft.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Best and Stewart in the top 5? That's insane. Classic case of too much focus on the future in dynasty leagues. Dynasty or not, you need to focus more on the next 1-2 years if you ever want to win anything. Stewart and Best could easily finish in the 20-35 range this year, and then, who knows what could happen.

I bet you would have said the same thing to someone pondering to draft Ray Rice higher than his ADP last year.

Higher than his ADP? No.In the top 5, probably. Though, that is totally different. Rice was set to be the team's #1 RB with little competition. Stewart is obviously not, and Best is far from proven on a terrible team. In addition to that, Best has durability concerns. Way too many ?'s for a top 5 pick in any format.

I don't think anyone is advocating taking Stewart or Best at 1.4. They were just answering the thread topic - which I realize is a bit general for what the OP really wanted to talk about. And just to clarify, there were two backs in competition with Rice last season. He didn't even get full reps until week 8.

 

[bonesman]

Best and Stewart in the top 5? That's insane. Classic case of too much focus on the future in dynasty leagues. Dynasty or not, you need to focus more on the next 1-2 years if you ever want to win anything. Stewart and Best could easily finish in the 20-35 range this year, and then, who knows what could happen.

I bet you would have said the same thing to someone pondering to draft Ray Rice higher than his ADP last year.

Higher than his ADP? No.In the top 5, probably. Though, that is totally different. Rice was set to be the team's #1 RB with little competition. Stewart is obviously not, and Best is far from proven on a terrible team. In addition to that, Best has durability concerns. Way too many ?'s for a top 5 pick in any format.

Top 5 rounds? Rice's ADP was in the 5th round at best last year... he was going in the 8th or so in June/July.#1 w/ little competition? The Ravens backfield was viewed as a 3way RBBC going into last season.

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

Chris JohnsonPetersonRiceMJD

Close. Chris JohnsonRICEPetersonMJD

 

[Go deep]

CJMJDAPRRRice is the riskiest right now - he's only had 1 impressive season, he hasn't gotten the goalline carries, his value has depended heavily on his role in the passing game but his team's passing offense is changing. AP has long-term risk because of the amount of punishment he gets and his injury history. That leaves CJ & MJD as the two I trust more, and CJ is the one who has put up huge numbers, so he's first. MJD gets underrated - people don't appreciate how consistently amazing he's been with the football, and now he's solidified a big role for himself (include the high value touches on the goalline & in the passing game), and he's still just 25.

I dont know, I would say MJD has the worst surrounding offense, also I think the Jags were ready to take Spiller. I see no reason to think Rice was a one year wonder. Once McGahee is gone, he'll likely get goalline carries.

Oh no you don't! MJD had a subpar surrounding cast last year and look at the #'s he put up. Depending on your leagues scoring rules, MJD was #1 in some leagues. Take into consideration that Jacksonville's O-line was a work in progress last year after drafting 2 rookie tackles. They didn't know what they had at WR neither. Now, fast forward to today, those 2 rookie tackles are now in their 2nd year so there should be better unity and cohesion. MSW is one of the shark pool darlings (I'm a Jags fan and I'm not really that high on him) and there is high hopes for Mike Thomas (not sure if he'll be the slot or #2 WR). They also have solid TEs in Marcedes and the play making Zach Miller 2.0. The pressure is on Garrard to return to form from 2 years ago or JDR might be gone (should be). Also, MJD doesn't really have any threat to take carries or receptions away from him. That offense runs through him. The way I would rank them is this:CJ - uber stud on a team with a great O-line and not much elseMJD - similar to above AP - prototypical workhorse back on a team with a great O-line but he also has numerous weapons in the passing game and fumblitisRR - I love this guy, but he still has McGahee to contend with and to vulture TD's. But he is a ppr beast. Will that change with Q in the picture?:steppingoffsoapbox:

Step back in, you are right on the nose with the whole post....IMO. The biggest thing thats seperates Rice from the rest is he wont likely be the goalline back. When i am drafting with a top 5 pick, i want an every down RB that can catch, and gets force fed at the goalline. I actually have Jonathan Stewart ranked very close to Rice, and if Williams leaves, he will likely pass Rice.

 

[cr8f]

I'll take any of those 4.

Interesting point is only 1 of the 4 was a high fantasy rookie pick.

 

[Go deep]

I'll take any of those 4.Interesting point is only 1 of the 4 was a high fantasy rookie pick.

Maybe not high, but were all first round picks. Plus, Rice and CJ would have been top 5 picks had that RB class not been so deep.

 

[Tick]

I'll take any of those 4.Interesting point is only 1 of the 4 was a high fantasy rookie pick.

Maybe not high, but were all first round picks. Plus, Rice and CJ would have been top 5 picks had that RB class not been so deep.

MJD tended to go around 12-14th in rookie drafts, kind of where Gore went in his year.

 

[salmonstud]

It's becoming apparent that there is no consensus #2 RB in dynasty - we have heard just about everything in this thread with preference going to ADP & MJD.

 

[Blackjacks]

Can we put Ryan Matthews in the discussion?

Young, good team and Matthews is very talented.

I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris Johnson

ADP

MJD

Matthews

???????

J. Stewart, Mendenhall and Chris Wells would be in my top ten.

I guess if I could get Johnson at #4 I'd do it but something really scares me about him this year.

Rice had a great year also but I'm not ready to automatically put him in the top 4

 

[HenryMuto]

I'll take any of those 4.Interesting point is only 1 of the 4 was a high fantasy rookie pick.

Maybe not high, but were all first round picks. Plus, Rice and CJ would have been top 5 picks had that RB class not been so deep.

MJD tended to go around 12-14th in rookie drafts, kind of where Gore went in his year.

MJD went 25th in my rookie draft in 2006, I took Gore at 13th slot in 2005.

 

[Go deep]

I'll take any of those 4.Interesting point is only 1 of the 4 was a high fantasy rookie pick.

Maybe not high, but were all first round picks. Plus, Rice and CJ would have been top 5 picks had that RB class not been so deep.

MJD tended to go around 12-14th in rookie drafts, kind of where Gore went in his year.

MJD went 25th in my rookie draft in 2006, I took Gore at 13th slot in 2005.

I took MJD with the 8th pick in 2006. I did take Gore in the 2nd round, the 2.4 if i recall correctly.

 

[Go deep]

Can we put Ryan Matthews in the discussion?Young, good team and Matthews is very talented.I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris JohnsonADPMJDMatthews???????J. Stewart, Mendenhall and Chris Wells would be in my top ten.I guess if I could get Johnson at #4 I'd do it but something really scares me about him this year.Rice had a great year also but I'm not ready to automatically put him in the top 4

I like Mathews, he could be a top 5 RB, but i think its a bit early to do so now. You are going to get flamed for not putting CJ in your top 5. He is my #1 RB, but i dont think he ever touches last years numbers again, so i dont think you are crazy. I also tend to agree with you about Rice, until he becomes the goalline guy, i would have a hard time taking him in the top 5, i would probably take Stewart over him at 4 in a non-ppr.

 

[renesauz]

I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris Johnson

What...did he need to get to 3000 yards to get your attention?

 

[FantasyTrader]

1) Jones-Drew

2) Jonathan Stewart

3) Ray Rice

4) Beanie Wells

 

[FantasyTrader]

I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris Johnson

What...did he need to get to 3000 yards to get your attention?

No. He needed to do more after contact.

 

[Blackjacks]

I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris Johnson

What...did he need to get to 3000 yards to get your attention?

He got my attention. He haqd a great year but that doesn't automatically make him the top rb available.I've seen this movie before and not sure if I want to watch it again. Good rb has a great year, misses some time in training camp andcomes out the following year and gets hurt or preforms way under expectations.IMO, CJ isn't as talented as everyone is making him out to being. He is fast, YES, but he can't do it all himself and the Titans team last yearisn't the same as the Titasn team this year. Losing Mawae is a big loss for them and with Vince under center.......who knows how the offense will be.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

On Peterson, I think it's pretty clear that he'll burn out before anyone else on this list, minus a catastrophic injury for one of them. "limited shelf life" was a standard part of his scouting report, he just takes the defense head on, and eventually that catches up with a player.

Peterson's running style is reminiscent of earl campbells. Very punishing. Not good for longevity.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

#1 is clearly Chris Johnson unless he gets caught in a hold out. If that's the case, he's not even on the top 4 list in redraft. Rice is clearly #4 Leaves the question for whoever is picking the second RB on the board. AP or MJD.. Whoever picks 3rd RB gets the decision made for him.In my opinion, MJD is a safer pick.CJAPMJDRR...in that order (redraft)

As noted in the topic and the opening post - DYNASTY rankings....not redraft.

The order doesn't change

 

[travdogg]

I know he had a great year last year but I am not sold on Chris Johnson

What...did he need to get to 3000 yards to get your attention?

He got my attention. He haqd a great year but that doesn't automatically make him the top rb available.I've seen this movie before and not sure if I want to watch it again. Good rb has a great year, misses some time in training camp and

comes out the following year and gets hurt or preforms way under expectations.

IMO, CJ isn't as talented as everyone is making him out to being. He is fast, YES, but he can't do it all himself and the Titans team last year

isn't the same as the Titasn team this year. Losing Mawae is a big loss for them and with Vince under center.......who knows how the offense will be.

I'm under the impression both those things actually help Johnson. Young makes it tougher for defenses to fully commit to Johnson on the run, its no coincidence that when Vince became the starter, CJ's numbers spiked it. Mawae was awful last year, probably one of the 5 worst centers in the NFL. There is a very good reason he hasn't signed anywhere yet and its because he's finished.

 

[hooptd]

CJ

AD

Drew

Rice

I think the case can be made for AD at #1. He's still fairly young at 25 and was concenses #1 until Johnson blew up last year. He should still have a good 4 years of top production left, which is a long time in ff.

 

[Sweet Love]

On Peterson, I think it's pretty clear that he'll burn out before anyone else on this list, minus a catastrophic injury for one of them. "limited shelf life" was a standard part of his scouting report, he just takes the defense head on, and eventually that catches up with a player.

Peterson's running style is reminiscent of earl campbells. Very punishing. Not good for longevity.

While I absolutely agree with this, you have to look at what their teams did to support these top 4. Rice has guys to take the punishing yards; CJ and especially MJD, not so much (maybe they have them...will they use them??). ADP looked like the guy who would have a "Campbell-like" career, but Minny brought in Gerhardrt (sp) and he is going to take the "ugly" yards when needed. If it is 3rd and 2 on the opposing team's 35 yard-line, does anyone honestly think they will give it to ADP? Not only do they want to preserve him, but his butter fingers actually play into the fact that he will be given the ball in the most opportune situations fantasy-wise...well, maybe except the goalline. But as an ADP owner, I am wiling to sacrifice some TDs if it means that Toby will be running the "tough" yards.