Ravens get Boldin (1 Viewer)

[Chase Stuart]

Anquan Boldin has averaged 6.2 catches per game for his career. No other receiver in NFL history has a career average of 6 or more catches per game.

Boldin is also the career leader in receiving yards per game, with a 79.2 average.

These numbers are just trivia, but I thought them to be neat trivia, nonetheless.

 

[the branded hand]

So, what of Derrick Mason?

It sounds like he's going elsewhere as a FA. That's why I'm reluctant to give a big boost to Flacco right now.

Exactly where are you hearing this?

Still waiting and very intrigued by this tidbit about Mason going elsewhere. It's nice to think he might go to a "contender for the Super Bowl" to close out his career, but he's already with a contender, so... what's his motivation? TEN maybe, reunite with Heimerdinger and honor McNair's memory with a final year? Are there really reports of him wanting to test free agency? Link?

 

[FFCardsFan]

if hes in the correct situation, hes a stud, but no doubt about it, hes a 29-30 year old, injury prone wr. im interested to see how he fits in. he doesnt have the mega stud wr on the other side to take attention away rom him and he doesnt have a hall of famer throwin him the ball.

His first season in the league, he had Jeff Blake and Josh McCown throwing him the ball, and the #2 WR was Bryant Johnson (who has yet to reach 750 yards in a season). Boldin put up 101/1377/8. There is no question that he is a proven WR; he doesn't need Fitz or a good QB to be productive.And what's all this talk about him being gasp 29 years old? Derrick Mason was 35 this year. 7 of the top 20 WRs were over 30.

he was also a fresh rookie who never had to deal with nagging injuries. im just saying, 30 and injury prone is not usually a good combo. dont get me wrong, as a redbird fan, i love the guy. when hes healthy and has the ball in his hands, hes a stud. but i dont know if he'll be the consistant 85+ catch / 1000+ yard guy in that situation. only time will tell.

 

[menobrown]

Still waiting and very intrigued by this tidbit about Mason going elsewhere. It's nice to think he might go to a "contender for the Super Bowl" to close out his career, but he's already with a contender, so... what's his motivation? TEN maybe, reunite with Heimerdinger and honor McNair's memory with a final year? Are there really reports on this? Link?

His motivation is the same as just about every player- he wants to get paid. It's why he pulled a Favre last off season because he had one year left on his deal and was trying to get the Ravens to offer him a good extension of at least one additional year. The Ravens could not get him to agree to a contract before FA so highly unlikely now that they have sunk money into Boldin and don't need Mason as much that they will now come to an agreement.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think this move allows Flacco to jump to the next tier.

 

[Kenny Powers]

As a Steeler fan and Boldin fan, this sucks. I love Q, but man, he couldnt have gone into a worse situation for my rooting tendencies.

And for a 3rd and 4th rounder?!?! Damn, even DeNiro is saying gimme a break!?

 

[D'OHtis]

Love the move. Flacco's got yet another big YAC guy to dump off to. [Rice]

 

[nicole320]

Of course I turned to my trusty Bettina shades for the marble. I actually had a lot of fun working on these because I intentionally wanted the patterns to be random on each nail care tips.

 

[NeverEnough]

I need to not be a Phins fan anymore.

 

[Fiddles]

Yay! Another free agency period and another year where a division rival does whatever they can to greatly improve their team while the Bengals sit on their thumbs and twirl. I love this team...

that benson pickup was huge last year

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Yay! Another free agency period and another year where a division rival does whatever they can to greatly improve their team while the Bengals sit on their thumbs and twirl. I love this team...

Have you heard about Matt Jones?

 

[BuckeyeArt]

What a freaking steal. a lot of GMs should be kicking themselves in the behind.

Probably not. Everyone knew that the asking price was low and, for one reason or another, most NFL teams didn't want him. IMO, Boldin has not been the same player since getting knocked out cold in 2008.

Huh? After the injury, he played 7 more regular season games that season and put up 61-672-6 (equal to a season pace of 139-1536-14). What exactly were you expecting?

 

[bostonfred]

Ravens ++

Flacco +

Boldin even

Rice -

 

[Native]

I think the trade speaks more to Boldin's value than anything else. A 3rd and a 4th? What it tells me is that the market for Boldin wasnt very strong. Could be that a lot of GM's think he is on the downside because of all his injuries.

Dont get me wrong, I think this was the right move for Baltimore as they are only a few pieces away. But I dont think Boldin is going to be the same player he was pre-injury.

 

[D'OHtis]

Biggest steal of a deal since Faulk from Indy to STL.

 

[Tau837]

So, what of Derrick Mason?

It sounds like he's going elsewhere as a FA. That's why I'm reluctant to give a big boost to Flacco right now.

Exactly where are you hearing this?

Still waiting and very intrigued by this tidbit about Mason going elsewhere. It's nice to think he might go to a "contender for the Super Bowl" to close out his career, but he's already with a contender, so... what's his motivation? TEN maybe, reunite with Heimerdinger and honor McNair's memory with a final year? Are there really reports of him wanting to test free agency? Link?

Mason is a free agent. Surprised people seem to not know this. Plus, there was that bizarre episode just last preseason when he said he was going to retire.On top of that, the Ravens just signed Stallworth. I could easily see Boldin and Stallworth starting, with Boldin taking Mason's possession role.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Just F-ing great. I hate Baltimore.

 

[Mikey16x]

Imagine if the Ravens actually bring in TO as well?? Doubt it will happen with this trade getting done obviously but what a headache for defensive backs. Two guys that are built like linebackers and play as physical as one. Eeeesh.

 

[Ghost Rider]

He hasn't played 16 games in 4 years.

I am sure he will miss at least a few games for the Ravens, but as long as he is healthy come playoff time, Ravens fans will be happy. This Ravens team was already a playoff team without him, and with a stud like Boldin there now, this team could be pretty scary come January next year, assuming Flacco plays better than he did down the stretch in '09.

 

[obxlegends]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Love the deal. I'd love it even more if Mason comes back. I don't care that neither is a "field-stretcher" - they're both a pain in the butt to cover and will keep defenses on their toes, 4.3 speed or no 4.3 speed.

 

[rzrback77]

Perfect spot for Q in my opinion. I think that he and Flacco will both blossom. Also hope for the Ravens that Mason does return as I think that will really be a great offense.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

Is this going to be like Housh's move to Seattle? Tough, fearless (and amazing) WR2 who doesn't quite fit the WR1 profile and so struggles when all the attention is on him? (I say this with the understanding that Seattle and Baltimore are apples and oranges).

 

[Ghost Rider]

Is this going to be like Housh's move to Seattle? Tough, fearless (and amazing) WR2 who doesn't quite fit the WR1 profile and so struggles when all the attention is on him? (I say this with the understanding that Seattle and Baltimore are apples and oranges).

Boldin is not a number 2 WR; he is a number 1. In Arizona, he just happened to be playing with another number 1 WR. He did pretty awesome in Arizona before Fitzgerald got there and he was the unquestioned number 1.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

Is this going to be like Housh's move to Seattle? Tough, fearless (and amazing) WR2 who doesn't quite fit the WR1 profile and so struggles when all the attention is on him? (I say this with the understanding that Seattle and Baltimore are apples and oranges).

Boldin is not a number 2 WR; he is a number 1. In Arizona, he just happened to be playing with another number 1 WR. He did pretty awesome in Arizona before Fitzgerald got there and he was the unquestioned number 1.

New to fantasy so I didn't realize that Boldin was the main guy before Fitz showed up. So what you're saying is that Fitz/Boldin was more of a 1a/1b situation. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

Just get the hardware ready for you guys, no need to be shy or sugarcoat it, right?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Is this going to be like Housh's move to Seattle? Tough, fearless (and amazing) WR2 who doesn't quite fit the WR1 profile and so struggles when all the attention is on him? (I say this with the understanding that Seattle and Baltimore are apples and oranges).

Way different WRs IMHO...

 

[Cookiemonster]

Love the deal. I'd love it even more if Mason comes back. I don't care that neither is a "field-stretcher" - they're both a pain in the butt to cover and will keep defenses on their toes, 4.3 speed or no 4.3 speed.

Having Stallworth's speed to pair with those two would be very nice. Flacco is my nominee to break into top 5 QB territory next year and is likely top 10.

 

[CalBear]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

I'm not sleeping on anything. Counting points when you had the #3 defense is a little misleading, because the offense gets the ball in better positions. But Baltimore had the #13 offense in yardage, and I was saying that Boldin will make them a top 10 offense. If the defense can hold out for one more year, they could be in the Super Bowl.

 

[Buckna]

I think the trade speaks more to Boldin's value than anything else. A 3rd and a 4th? What it tells me is that the market for Boldin wasnt very strong. Could be that a lot of GM's think he is on the downside because of all his injuries. Dont get me wrong, I think this was the right move for Baltimore as they are only a few pieces away. But I dont think Boldin is going to be the same player he was pre-injury.

I agree. Especially when you factor in the money he got which seems pretty low for his services. Obviously teams are scared of his injuries. Maybe he can be a Mason and play 5~6 more years. Or maybe he'll be Tory Holt and the wheels will come off any second?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Love the deal. I'd love it even more if Mason comes back. I don't care that neither is a "field-stretcher" - they're both a pain in the butt to cover and will keep defenses on their toes, 4.3 speed or no 4.3 speed.

Having Stallworth's speed to pair with those two would be very nice. Flacco is my nominee to break into top 5 QB territory next year and is likely top 10.

Yep. Stallworth needs to be (no higher than) the #3 IMO for this to really work. If Mason comes back, the Ravens may set a record for throwing out patterns with he & Boldin. Flacco throws the best "out" I've seen since maybe Elway. That'll allow the Ravens to cover up Joe's weakest area - over the middle, or at least open it up enough that he learns how to execute ins & crosses correctly.

 

[az_prof]

Anquan Boldin has averaged 6.2 catches per game for his career. No other receiver in NFL history has a career average of 6 or more catches per game.Boldin is also the career leader in receiving yards per game, with a 79.2 average.These numbers are just trivia, but I thought them to be neat trivia, nonetheless.

This is a bit misleading because you don't count games he didn't play due to injury. Just one counter example would be Brandon Marshall: if you don't count games he didn't play as a rookie, which seems reasonable considering you aren't counting Boldin's injury games, then Marshall has 327 catches on 53 games for an average of 6.16. Or if you look at the last three years since he assumed a starting job, Marshall has 307 catches in 46 games for a 6.67 catch/game average.My guess is that there are other WRs who also have equally high catch/game ratios depending on how you measure the statistic. Not saying Boldin isn't good, but to try and imply he is the best WR in NFL history based on this skewed statistic is misleading.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Why couldn't the Bears have done this? They have third and fourth round picks!

 

[Chase Stuart]

Anquan Boldin has averaged 6.2 catches per game for his career. No other receiver in NFL history has a career average of 6 or more catches per game.

Boldin is also the career leader in receiving yards per game, with a 79.2 average.

These numbers are just trivia, but I thought them to be neat trivia, nonetheless.

This is a bit misleading because you don't count games he didn't play due to injury. Just one counter example would be Brandon Marshall: if you don't count games he didn't play as a rookie, which seems reasonable considering you aren't counting Boldin's injury games, then Marshall has 327 catches on 53 games for an average of 6.16. Or if you look at the last three years since he assumed a starting job, Marshall has 307 catches in 46 games for a 6.67 catch/game average.My guess is that there are other WRs who also have equally high catch/game ratios depending on how you measure the statistic. Not saying Boldin isn't good, but to try and imply he is the best WR in NFL history based on this skewed statistic is misleading.

I wasn't implying that Boldin was the best WR in history, just that it's a neat piece of trivia. Here's some more trivia, which also is just trivia, and does not mean that Randy Moss is the best WR in history.Top WRs in fantasy points per game since the merger, 0.5 PPR scoring:

FantPts   Gms	FP/G	Years2826.7	186	15.2	1998-2009	Randy Moss2779.8	190	14.6	1996-2008	Marvin Harrison4377.1	303	14.4	1985-2004	Jerry Rice1327.7	 92	14.4	2004-2009	Larry Fitzgerald2905.2	205	14.2	1996-2009	Terrell Owens1334.4	 95	14.0	2003-2009	Anquan Boldin1508.2	112	13.5	1988-1994	Sterling Sharpe1343.9	102	13.2	2003-2009	Andre Johnson748.5	  57	13.1	2006-2009	Marques Colston2247.9	173	13.0	1999-2009	Torry Holt1726.7	137	12.6	2001-2009	Chad Johnson1956.0	159	12.3	1988-1999	Michael Irvin1461.5	121	12.1	2001-2009	Steve Smith725.8	  61	11.9	2006-2009	Brandon Marshall1193.4	101	11.8	1982-1990	Mike Quick1653.3	141	11.7	2001-2009	Reggie Wayne2334.2	200	11.7	1976-1989	Steve Largent687.9	  59	11.7	2006-2009	Greg Jennings2724.5	234	11.6	1987-2002	Cris Carter2594.8	223	11.6	1994-2009	Isaac Bruce2061.6	178	11.6	1992-2005	Jimmy Smith1865.2	167	11.2	1996-2006	Keyshawn Johnson1624.4	146	11.1	1991-2002	Herman Moore2060.1	186	11.1	1998-2009	Hines Ward2016.5	183	11.0	1995-2006	Rod Smith

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Being a Boldin owner, I was hoping he'd go to the Pats. But being the #1 in Baltimore can't be bad. So, what of Derrick Mason?

It sounds like he's going elsewhere as a FA. That's why I'm reluctant to give a big boost to Flacco right now.

Exactly where are you hearing this?Mason's going to stay in Baltimore and be the #2, which is what the Ravens wanted. Mason's not a WR1 in the NFL right now, he's a possession guy.

Mark Clayton and Stallworth are now WR3/WR4 at best.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35739988/ns/...ts-player_news/

Report: Mason no longer a priority for Ravens

Beat writer Jamison Hensley reports free agent Derrick Mason is no longer a priority after the team traded for Anquan Boldin.

It looks like Mason overplayed his hand when he opted not to re-sign before free agency.

 

[Sabertooth]

Love the deal. I'd love it even more if Mason comes back. I don't care that neither is a "field-stretcher" - they're both a pain in the butt to cover and will keep defenses on their toes, 4.3 speed or no 4.3 speed.

No kidding. I agree with this. I also agree that Q really fits the Raven's team personality of tough guy football.

 

[dickey moe]

He's gonna look great in a Ravens jersey.

 

[Spike]

The Miami Dolphins are absolute idiots for not putting together a deal for Boldin. I don't believe Miami is serious about winning I really don't. Baltimore had some pieces in their passing attack but not Miami.

Props to the Ravens, well run orginization that never ceases to get better. Great move for the now and future, Joe Flacco just got a great weapon to use on offense, love the move for Baltimore, hate it as Miami just falls further and further behind.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I have Boldin in almost all my Dynasty's and I love the move. With it looking like Warner done in Zona Q was going to have an below avg year... but now hes on a team with a better QB than Lienart and Q will be the #1 target outside of Rice. I expect about 90 Recs in 16 games. If Mason can get 103 / 80 / 73 Recs in the past 3 years just think what Q can do.

 

[menobrown]

Still waiting and very intrigued by this tidbit about Mason going elsewhere. It's nice to think he might go to a "contender for the Super Bowl" to close out his career, but he's already with a contender, so... what's his motivation? TEN maybe, reunite with Heimerdinger and honor McNair's memory with a final year? Are there really reports on this? Link?

His motivation is the same as just about every player- he wants to get paid. It's why he pulled a Favre last off season because he had one year left on his deal and was trying to get the Ravens to offer him a good extension of at least one additional year. The Ravens could not get him to agree to a contract before FA so highly unlikely now that they have sunk money into Boldin and don't need Mason as much that they will now come to an agreement.

Here is part of an article basically saying what I wrote above with a link of the entire article below:The Ravens were discussing a two-year contract with Mason before the launch of free agency Friday. However, the Ravens don’t have a sense of urgency at this point about bringing back Mason because of the acquisition of Boldin via a trade.

Mason’s return hasn’t been ruled out, but the Ravens no longer have that at the top of their agenda. And the money that could have gone to Mason has been allocated to Boldin with a four-year, $28 million package that includes $10 million in guaranteed money and $25 million in new money.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson...on-outlook.html

 

[BassNBrew]

I think this move allows Flacco to jump to the next tier.

Welcome Joe. Nice to have you join my tier. Will you be staying for a while or leaving soon to join Kyle Orton?

 

[obxlegends]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

:whoosh: This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

Just get the hardware ready for you guys, no need to be shy or sugarcoat it, right?

No bigger hater on this board. Congrats... the hardware goes to YOU! Enjoy.

 

[Splicer]

Does WR Marcus Smith give Boldin #81? How much might Boldin have to pony up to get his #81?

 

[todisco1]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

what haappened to flacco in the playoffs? Seems like he was great first half of the year and really tapered off in the second half. The playoffs were embarrasing to watch IMO, he was horrible.

 

[Couch Potato]

A complete steal. Baltimore will become a top-10 offense; this could really be an important piece of another Super Bowl run.

This is kind of funny to me. People sleep on how good of an offense they were last year. They were 9th in total points as it was. I believe through the first half of the season they were second only to New Orleans. This is already a good offense, but with Boldin they will become more complete. If Mason comes back? We could crack the Top 5 if healthy.

what haappened to flacco in the playoffs? Seems like he was great first half of the year and really tapered off in the second half. The playoffs were embarrasing to watch IMO, he was horrible.

He was playing while injured. His hip was really bad, but they tried to keep it on the down low so they wouldn't give the opponent a target. This all came out later. His delivery and mobility were greatly affected.